Is this a bad news or good news?

PRELUDE · « **on:** 16 Dec 2011, 03:33 am »

Looks like it does not matter any more and we have to say good-bye to CDs.

http://www.rocknycliveandrecorded.com/2011/11/major-labels-will-stop-making-cds-by-2012.html

Stu Pitt · « **Reply #1 on:** 16 Dec 2011, 03:39 am »

This has been posted on pretty much every hifi forum...

I'm pretty sure it's a bunch of non-sense. Perhaps the next big hoax. If not, we'll survive.

I'm still waiting for my flying car. It was promised in "the future," which was supposed to be the year 2000, along with my jet-pack. I think the jet-pack is a bit impractical though, so I'm not that heart broken. I wouldn't want to jet-pack to work in February in New York. Flying car? Now that's where it's it.

Diamond Dog · « **Reply #2 on:** 16 Dec 2011, 04:15 am »

But Stu, it's gotta be true...it's on the internet!

D.D.

Elizabeth · « **Reply #3 on:** 16 Dec 2011, 04:23 am »

One story and it has been spread like a nasty fungus all over the audiophile web.
It is just a stupid opinion of ONE PERSON.
So if you think it is coming true.
well.... Chicken Little convinced plenty of his companions too.

servingko · « **Reply #4 on:** 16 Dec 2011, 04:34 am »

They are still making vinyl records although cassettes are pretty much gone. Eventually I would suspect that physical media as we now know it will be a thing of the past but it will still have to be on some type of physical storage medium unless everything exists in the "cloud." I hope that we have CD's and DVD's for some time to come. This may be a rumor to help with a modest sales bump.

1ZIP · « **Reply #5 on:** 16 Dec 2011, 04:42 am »

If it goes away.....it goes away! I'll just transfer my music to the new format and use that...and repeat! The important thing is that the music goes on and on!

I have a friend that is in the process of transferring his vinyl collection to cassette tape...why is a mystery.... but it keeps him busy!

PRELUDE · « **Reply #6 on:** 16 Dec 2011, 04:47 am »

In the last years every single audio show I went I saw people hunting for CDs and more and more for LPs.
All I can say is I hope it won't happen because I really like to see my albums on the rack.

redbook · « **Reply #7 on:** 16 Dec 2011, 01:48 pm »

This little story seems suspect to me. There are new cd and dvd releases very week here at my local HMV store. For the demise of books and papers ,has this person gone into a bookstore lately. I did yesterday at Chapters and the charm of tangible and real things are there if someone wants them. Sales have gone down and things will find a new level in these markets. Select LPs are still made and I'm sure the others will find their ongoing niche as well. (IMO based on what I see and not read). The "net " is a great vehicle for good and bad intel but certainly not the last word on any subject. (ei-medical advice). :

P.S...I have an extra flying car if anyone is interested !

SoundGame · « **Reply #8 on:** 16 Dec 2011, 02:38 pm »

I think the end will come - like it does for all audio formats at one time or another but I'm not sure I think it's going to be such an abrupt stop and so soon. Will be a few years yet - I'll give it more like 3-5 years tops. Blu-ray sales are growing quite rapidly and I expect the demise of the DVD, possibly sooner than the CD.

mav52 · « **Reply #9 on:** 16 Dec 2011, 02:39 pm »

I hope CD's or well made CD's stay around... LP's are around just harder to find. There is just something about having to trust Time Warner cable for internet quality, modem quality and then sound card quality, streaming software and copy quality. I kinda liked having my CD player or turntable just play the music instead of putting of of those unknowns in the works.

niels · « **Reply #10 on:** 16 Dec 2011, 03:07 pm »

Modem quality?
Cd and cd players are obsolete, and thats a good thing. Wonderful when it came out, but then, hey, it wasnt "perfect sound forever" as promised, what a surprise. Cd is a mediocre format to say the least, I havent used a cd player for 6 years.
Every blue moon we need an update, a new format with extended resolution, dvd is on its way out, streaming of video is quite common, Apple TV is wildly popular, no need to buy a movie you only want to see once anyway, I use Spotify every day instead of my quite large music collection on my harddrive, and through Bryston it sounds smashing. I am enjoying the music, thats all.
I just bought a blu-ray player and to see the bitrate go from 9 kbps to 35 kbps on a movie is nice, thats a difference you can both hear and see.
Whether a cd is 44.1 or 96 khz really isnt important, the 44.1 can sound better than the 96 khz, you never know.....

rollo · « **Reply #11 on:** 16 Dec 2011, 03:57 pm »

Green team propaganda.

charles
SMA

spinner · « **Reply #12 on:** 16 Dec 2011, 07:42 pm »

Niels, sounds like you didn't hand around for the cd format to mature. It has come along way and the Bryston player, among other recent ones , shows that ....

Stu Pitt · « **Reply #13 on:** 17 Dec 2011, 02:30 am »

Quote from: PRELUDE on 16 Dec 2011, 04:47 am

In the last years every single audio show I went I saw people hunting for CDs and more and more for LPs.
All I can say is I hope it won't happen because I really like to see my albums on the rack.

First and foremost, why would you have to get rid of what you already own? If everyone stopped pressing CDs tomorrow, would your CD player and CDs self-destruct?

Secondly, the people you see hunting for CDs and LPs at audio shows aren't like the average consumer. You're seeing a very small, skewed percentage of the market.

I'd love for a high-res format to become standard, where every studio has to use high quality recording and engineering techniques. That won't happen soon either.

My take on the future of where it'll go next - artists will offer their studio albums for download from their own sites. Many bands offer their concerts for download. I have a few Metallica shows. They're available in mp3 and FLAC. FLAC is about $2 or so more than mp3. You can also download the artwork, tray inserts, and CD label art. Many others do the same.

How long do you think it'll take the artists to ask themselves why they're not releaseing their studio stuff alongside their live stuff? Once big name contracts start expiring, I'd bet they'll have had enough. How cool would it be to get studio masters and all the inserts/liner notes/etc directly from the artist who didn't have to change things to appease a label?

timind · « **Reply #14 on:** 17 Dec 2011, 03:06 am »

Quote from: Stu Pitt on 16 Dec 2011, 03:39 am

This has been posted on pretty much every hifi forum...

I'm pretty sure it's a bunch of non-sense. Perhaps the next big hoax. If not, we'll survive.

I'm still waiting for my flying car. It was promised in "the future," which was supposed to be the year 2000, along with my jet-pack. I think the jet-pack is a bit impractical though, so I'm not that heart broken. I wouldn't want to jet-pack to work in February in New York. Flying car? Now that's where it's it.

Here ya go http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1SCu9yiBlo

FullRangeMan · « **Reply #15 on:** 17 Dec 2011, 07:31 pm »

About the news link subject, please see this interesting post from from DSD/Teresa Goodwin(Positive Feedback Online).
http://pro-sacd.lefora.com/2011/12/16/major-labels-will-quit-cds-in-2012/#post2
That show why the music small and big companies want right now quit CD format from the market.

FullRangeMan · « **Reply #16 on:** 17 Dec 2011, 07:35 pm »

I just wish remember the life of all hard disk are limited, but if a drop voltage get a computer, the hard disk will die right now.

I already see this occour in 2006, when a drop tension occorred, a resistence and a diode from the hard disk's PCB smoked, the HD and all the music files were lost, off course.
Which is one more gain to the music companies.

Diamond Dog · « **Reply #17 on:** 17 Dec 2011, 09:48 pm »

Quote from: FULLRANGEMAN on 17 Dec 2011, 07:31 pm

About the news link subject, please see this interesting post from from DSD/Teresa Goodwin(Positive Feedback Online).
http://pro-sacd.lefora.com/2011/12/16/major-labels-will-quit-cds-in-2012/#post2
That show why the music small and big companies want right now quit CD format from the market.

Ms. Goodwin presents a cogent argument as to how the ever-more concentrated music industry plans to put the boots to their customers yet again. Certainly there is an argument to be made for the potential for improved-resolution formats being offered once physical formats are removed as an available option. But if the current state of the hi-rez business is any indication, get set to get hosed in terms of pricing. And this over and above the massive increase in profit which will be gained by losing the necessity for the stamping of discs and their associated costs, distribution/warehousing, etc. The industry-types will be back in limos soon enough.

So assuming that the real effect of these changes will only be felt in terms of new music products, will the industry basically view the back-catalogues of artists as beyond their control and as such essentially worthless other than offering the possibility to up-sell people on higher-rez downloads at ridiculous margins? The existing formats will still be floating around on disc and available for illegal download for some time to come - maybe a very long time...

And further to the concept of artists seizing control of their own marketing and thus their own destinies, how will the industry get their blood-sucking beaks into that action ( 'cuz you know they're going to try...) ? If they can't keep consumers from bypassing them and accessing the product directly from artists, perhaps look for them to find ways to profit from the means we use to gain access directly. If they've finally found a way to eliminate piracy and the second-hand market ( on new product at least ), you can bet they're looking for ways to get artist back under their control or at the very least find new ways to profit from them. Not that all artists will move away from record companies - in a recent interview, Prince described how many artists use record companies as banks. As the indebtedness of the artists grows, the control the record companies have over them grows as well.

Lots of food for thought...dark, dark thoughts.

D.D.

redbook · « **Reply #18 on:** 17 Dec 2011, 10:53 pm »

I, as well as some others, refuse to play the download game. I would rather have a record on a fine player than rely on the poor quality of cheap computers . For me the redbook formula works very well . Things have gotten pretty fine in the cd world during the last ten years. I think that is why Bryston held off for so long in producing their bcd-1. Higher rez is good but like, in digital photography, it's not always the number of megapixels but how well they're processed that gives the clearest images. It's sad that we are led my marketing hype. Do what's best for you and be happy....

PRELUDE · « **Reply #19 on:** 18 Dec 2011, 12:01 am »

Quote from: redbook on 17 Dec 2011, 10:53 pm

I, as well as some others, refuse to play the download game. I would rather have a record on a fine player than rely on the poor quality of cheap computers . For me the redbook formula works very well . Things have gotten pretty fine in the cd world during the last ten years. I think that is why Bryston held off for so long in producing their bcd-1. Higher rez is good but like, in digital photography, it's not always the number of megapixels but how well they're processed that gives the clearest images. It's sad that we are led my marketing hype. Do what's best for you and be happy....