Do Shindo preamps live up to the legend?

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Gopher

Re: Do Shindo preamps live up to the legend?
« Reply #20 on: 23 Jan 2011, 01:31 am »
What do you use for your source?

Digital source has been a stock Eastern Electric Minimax DAC fed by a Bolder Cable Co modified Squeezebox Touch but next week I'll be getting my EE DAC back with Bolders Mods :banana piano:

I'm also expecting some a Cinemag SUT which will handle the gain on my Well Tempered Reference, Zu 103 (Grade 2 Prime) & Jasmine Phono pre. 

Sources are competent.

Gopher

Re: Do Shindo preamps live up to the legend?
« Reply #21 on: 24 Jan 2011, 04:23 pm »
I'm beginning to understand the cult following Shindo has.  Beauty, emotion and musicality in spades yet I don't feel like its a particularly colored piece.

Thankfully it is playing very nicely with my 845 SETs--I had some concern with the very high output impedance of the Auregies.  Not an issue though, things seem to be sounding gorgeous! 

This has answered some questions for me such as the difference between a very good piece for the money and a very good piece regardless of money.  My Eastern Electric Preamp with power supply upgrade was a very special little kit and it kept me happy for six years and could have kept me smiling had I not opened pandora's box, but the Shindo is on a different level.

Audioclyde

Re: Do Shindo preamps live up to the legend?
« Reply #22 on: 24 Jan 2011, 04:44 pm »
Glad to hear the Shindo is making you happy!!!  As I mentioned, I'd love to try one, but I am lazy and have to have remote volume control at least!!

Best,

Randy

blutto

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Re: Do Shindo preamps live up to the legend?
« Reply #23 on: 24 Jan 2011, 05:50 pm »
Yep, that's the Air Tight rep alright.  It is what inspired me to buy the ATC-1 preamp.  Maybe I expected too much.  While it was very good, I did not find it to have that super liquid organic quality and dense musicality.  In this regard, I think my JuicyMusic Blueberry Xtreme (which I owned at the same time) did a better job.  It was close but overall I'd say I preferred the Blueberry for its wonderful fat tone, harmonic structure, and downright musicality.

...sorry, but not associated with Air Tight in any way...just think it is great gear as is the other stuff that I mentioned...curious, what would lead you to that erroneous conclusion?...


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blutto

Gopher

Re: Do Shindo preamps live up to the legend?
« Reply #24 on: 24 Jan 2011, 05:53 pm »
erroneous conclusion?  Thems fightin' words!

Its a hobby, what we do and what we enjoy is completely subjective.  He actually owned the piece, he didn't just read about it or hear one in passing at a show.  The impressions he walked away with are completely valid.

blutto

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Re: Do Shindo preamps live up to the legend?
« Reply #25 on: 24 Jan 2011, 05:55 pm »
...sorry, but not associated with Air Tight in any way...just think it is great gear as is the other stuff that I mentioned...curious, what would lead you to that erroneous conclusion?...


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blutto

...mucho apologies...totally misread your post...

...now curious about the winner of your shoot-out...

...again, sorry...much egg on face...now off to wash face...

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blutto

blutto

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Re: Do Shindo preamps live up to the legend?
« Reply #26 on: 24 Jan 2011, 06:00 pm »
erroneous conclusion?  Thems fightin' words!

Its a hobby, what we do and what we enjoy is completely subjective.  He actually owned the piece, he didn't just read about it or hear one in passing at a show.  The impressions he walked away with are completely valid.

...misinterpreted the rep part...ooops...but now very curious how you could draw such precise conclusions about what I have heard and in what circumstances ( which seems implied in your response...or I could be jumping to conclusions that aren't warranted again..if so, ooops again)...especially since there is apparently a fight brewing( if so I'm walking away quietly..or we could hug and make up)...


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blutto

Gopher

Re: Do Shindo preamps live up to the legend?
« Reply #27 on: 24 Jan 2011, 06:15 pm »
I'm a bit confused by your posts.  There wasn't a shoot out at all--I just upgraded my Eastern Electric Minimax to a Shindo.  I am expecting to get an Eastern Electric Avant in my own rig to demo in the near future, but that hasn't happened yet.

Sunnydaze brought up an experience he had with another brand preamplifier because it was in the spirit of my post--audio legends living up to expectations.  In his system, he compared HIS Air Tight it to another nice preamp he owned and, though he does mentioned the Air Tight was very good, he preferred his other pre.

The 'fighting words' bit comes in, because its pretty crappy to call someones opinions wrong just because yours differ.  I've flat out hated some critically acclaimed gear and vice versa.  It doesn't make their opinions or mine less valid.  It makes us individuals--which is precisely who we seek in our communication on forums like this.

blutto

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Re: Do Shindo preamps live up to the legend?
« Reply #28 on: 24 Jan 2011, 06:56 pm »
I'm a bit confused by your posts.  There wasn't a shoot out at all--I just upgraded my Eastern Electric Minimax to a Shindo.  I am expecting to get an Eastern Electric Avant in my own rig to demo in the near future, but that hasn't happened yet.

Sunnydaze brought up an experience he had with another brand preamplifier because it was in the spirit of my post--audio legends living up to expectations.  In his system, he compared HIS Air Tight it to another nice preamp he owned and, though he does mentioned the Air Tight was very good, he preferred his other pre.

The 'fighting words' bit comes in, because its pretty crappy to call someones opinions wrong just because yours differ.  I've flat out hated some critically acclaimed gear and vice versa.  It doesn't make their opinions or mine less valid.  It makes us individuals--which is precisely who we seek in our communication on forums like this.

...the erroneous conclusion comment was  simply in regards my mistake over the term rep..hope that clears up the confusion..

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blutto

Gopher

Re: Do Shindo preamps live up to the legend?
« Reply #29 on: 24 Jan 2011, 07:19 pm »
it does completely.  I understand now.   :thumb:

blutto

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Re: Do Shindo preamps live up to the legend?
« Reply #30 on: 24 Jan 2011, 07:25 pm »
it does completely.  I understand now.   :thumb:

...OK...group hug!!!!...

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blutto

marley3

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Re: Do Shindo preamps live up to the legend?
« Reply #31 on: 25 Jan 2011, 12:52 am »
To answer your original question.... Yes, Shindo lives up to the legend, and can even go beyond what you are experiencing.  However, it may not be just as simple as adding a preamp to reach total ecstasy.  With every addition of a Shindo component, regardless of its level of significance or insignificance, I have noticed a noteworthy improvement in sound. Many years ago, I began with a preamp and amp from Shindo.  From their implementation, I embarked on a type of sound I was drawn to.  The more I listened, the more I had to have. Yes; it's like a drug!  The good news is, it's legal and it has a similar positive effect.

For those of you on the audiophile journey to happiness, I understand your frustrations.  It's hard to be sincerely fulfilled with your system.  I'm here to tell you that Shindo can be a vehicle to take you there.  The only draw back is that once you've discovered it, you may need more of it to make you content. 

Systems containing Shindo components that typically fail are the ones that don't have the synergy to fully communicate their potential.  I struggled with this for awhile before settling on a total Shindo system.  The only component I continued to struggle with was a digital source.  After years of searching, I finally found one that both compliments and synergizes with Shindo.  I'm all done now; and I routinely sit back in my chair and smile and sway as I am emotionally moved by the music presented so eloquently and life like before me.  It was worth the wait and the learning curve.

I'm not a dealer or in any way associated with Shindo.  I'm just an end user writing this to save you some of the many frustrations I suffered prior to reaching the goal we all together have - musical bliss.

Good luck on your audio journey.  And if you can get where you want to go by some other means, then more power to you.  I hope each of you get your system exactly where you want it to be.  As we all know, it's no easy task.




Stercom

Re: Do Shindo preamps live up to the legend?
« Reply #32 on: 25 Jan 2011, 02:51 am »
To answer your original question.... Yes, Shindo lives up to the legend, and can even go beyond what you are experiencing.  However, it may not be just as simple as adding a preamp to reach total ecstasy.  With every addition of a Shindo component, regardless of its level of significance or insignificance, I have noticed a noteworthy improvement in sound. Many years ago, I began with a preamp and amp from Shindo.  From their implementation, I embarked on a type of sound I was drawn to.  The more I listened, the more I had to have. Yes; it's like a drug!  The good news is, it's legal and it has a similar positive effect.

For those of you on the audiophile journey to happiness, I understand your frustrations.  It's hard to be sincerely fulfilled with your system.  I'm here to tell you that Shindo can be a vehicle to take you there.  The only draw back is that once you've discovered it, you may need more of it to make you content. 

Systems containing Shindo components that typically fail are the ones that don't have the synergy to fully communicate their potential.  I struggled with this for awhile before settling on a total Shindo system.  The only component I continued to struggle with was a digital source.  After years of searching, I finally found one that both compliments and synergizes with Shindo.  I'm all done now; and I routinely sit back in my chair and smile and sway as I am emotionally moved by the music presented so eloquently and life like before me.  It was worth the wait and the learning curve.

I'm not a dealer or in any way associated with Shindo.  I'm just an end user writing this to save you some of the many frustrations I suffered prior to reaching the goal we all together have - musical bliss.

Good luck on your audio journey.  And if you can get where you want to go by some other means, then more power to you.  I hope each of you get your system exactly where you want it to be.  As we all know, it's no easy task.
Well put.   Gopher, I'm glad the Shindo preamp is working out for you!

orientalexpress

Re: Do Shindo preamps live up to the legend?
« Reply #33 on: 25 Jan 2011, 02:52 am »
To answer your original question.... Yes, Shindo lives up to the legend, and can even go beyond what you are experiencing.  However, it may not be just as simple as adding a preamp to reach total ecstasy.  With every addition of a Shindo component, regardless of its level of significance or insignificance, I have noticed a noteworthy improvement in sound. Many years ago, I began with a preamp and amp from Shindo.  From their implementation, I embarked on a type of sound I was drawn to.  The more I listened, the more I had to have. Yes; it's like a drug!  The good news is, it's legal and it has a similar positive effect.

For those of you on the audiophile journey to happiness, I understand your frustrations.  It's hard to be sincerely fulfilled with your system.  I'm here to tell you that Shindo can be a vehicle to take you there.  The only draw back is that once you've discovered it, you may need more of it to make you content. 

Systems containing Shindo components that typically fail are the ones that don't have the synergy to fully communicate their potential.  I struggled with this for awhile before settling on a total Shindo system.  The only component I continued to struggle with was a digital source.  After years of searching, I finally found one that both compliments and synergizes with Shindo.  I'm all done now; and I routinely sit back in my chair and smile and sway as I am emotionally moved by the music presented so eloquently and life like before me.  It was worth the wait and the learning curve.

I'm not a dealer or in any way associated with Shindo.  I'm just an end user writing this to save you some of the many frustrations I suffered prior to reaching the goal we all together have - musical bliss.

Good luck on your audio journey.  And if you can get where you want to go by some other means, then more power to you.  I hope each of you get your system exactly where you want it to be.  As we all know, it's no easy task.
all that write up No pictures,Tell us what working for you.Thanks




marley3

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Re: Do Shindo preamps live up to the legend?
« Reply #34 on: 25 Jan 2011, 07:17 am »

orientalexpress

Re: Do Shindo preamps live up to the legend?
« Reply #35 on: 25 Jan 2011, 02:04 pm »
Here's a link to some pics: http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?vaslt&1234119155&view
cool,Thank you.either all shindo or nothing.thank you again for the warning.save me alot headache for buying and selling.



lapsan

Gopher

Re: Do Shindo preamps live up to the legend?
« Reply #36 on: 26 Jan 2011, 04:49 am »
I can see how these things could be super addictive.  This preamp has brought so much darn 'spunk' to my system, I could easily see myself wanting to explore the chain were it accessible. 

Thank goodness the Shindo GM70 amps which would likely mate with my Zus as well as my 845 monos are ultra rare and completely cost prohibitive!

I haven't enjoyed the sound of my rig this much in forever and I don't even have my DAC in place--I'm legitimately enjoying my digital music collection out of my Squeezebox Touch's analog outputs.  My DAC should return from modification tomorrow, which I suspect will be mind blowing along side this preamp.

Wow.  I'm very, very happy with where my sound is.

morganc

Re: Do Shindo preamps live up to the legend?
« Reply #37 on: 26 Jan 2011, 05:53 am »


Wow.  I'm very, very happy with where my sound is.

Congrats Fred:)