I know that they were a one owner set, the owner having died recently and the widow gave them to owner's of the record shop I frequent. They appear to be in good shape, the power cord on the 8b is a bit frayed right where it goes into the amp, all the tubes are present don't know about them yet. The Preamp is also in good to mint condition. Not going to sell them, short of a mc-275, these are the pieces to go with my thorens td-160 i just got from vinylnirvana. Does anyone have suggestions on who to have look at them?