Component designers

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rollo

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Re: Component designers
« Reply #20 on: 16 Mar 2010, 04:28 pm »
I don't like their gear. I've heard a selection of it at various times and thought it wasn't very good, and certainly wasn't a good value.

In addition, I met Harvey once and felt he was a con man, pure and simple.

Cool. Appreciate your honesty. Now I know, thanks.

charles

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Re: Component designers
« Reply #21 on: 17 Mar 2010, 12:14 am »
I think the whole must be an EE thing is bogus. Not saying at all that being an electrical engineer is not a HUGE plus in the manufacturer realm because it is. I am questioning whether it is wise to require it when so many excellent manufacturers are not. They may consult with EEs or have a few on staff, but to say that it is absolute or no deal is a little short sighted. My brother is an EE and I wouldn't trust him to make me up a pair of cables.  :nono:
Oh shucks there PEZ, I just get such a warm and fuzzy feeling when you post things like that. Things like that make me proud to be in my profession.
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Re: Component designers
« Reply #22 on: 17 Mar 2010, 01:43 pm »
I was thinking about this topic some more, and I do know a few designers that are not engineers, but are quite competent at electronics design nevertheless. Several are physicists, and one that I know of seems to have just learned on his own.

However, these are definitely the exceptions, and I'd say that in most cases you want an EE. It's similar to wanting a physician to actually be an MD. You might find someone that isn't an MD who is still very knowledgeable, but it's pretty safe to just stick with the MDs.

Russell Dawkins

Re: Component designers
« Reply #23 on: 24 Mar 2010, 08:28 pm »
You might find someone that isn't an MD who is still very knowledgeable, but it's pretty safe to just stick with the MDs.

...and hope he didn't come in last in class, and has kept up with developments in his field after graduation, since there are no follow-up exams later in life.

When pharmacists were required to be re-tested to retain their licenses around 20 years ago (in Canada - don't know about the States), many opted to retire - not surprisingly.
I wonder how doctors would do, with so much more to keep up with.

Wayner

Re: Component designers
« Reply #24 on: 24 Mar 2010, 08:50 pm »
In my 35+ years of designing, I really don't think there is "one single person" that is the designer, master of all. There is just too much going on for one thing, and there are too many trades to get a handle on to be a one man band.

In the groups I have been involved with, there were the mechanical folks, electrical folks,  chemical folks, finishing experts and then one guy to overlook the project as the lead. He kept all the monkeys from going off in the wrong direction, much like an orchestra conductor.

In my lighting career, there were those same kinds of folks, plus photometric people and manufacturing people as that place was also a manufacturing facility.

Of course, bean counters showed up as well as purchasing people and if it all went south, the CEO showed up to look stern, then re-assure everyone that they need to bust their balls to get the project done.

In the case of audio, I think a good designer knows what he wants and tries to steer the ship to that ultimate goal. That is the key to success, keeping all the "genius" mechanical, electrical and other dreamers focused on the same dream. Again, back to the orchestra and the conductor. Play all the right notes at the wrong time and you got crap. Play them at the appropriate time and you have music.

Wayner  :D

Russell Dawkins

Re: Component designers
« Reply #25 on: 24 Mar 2010, 08:56 pm »
Again, back to the orchestra and the conductor. Play all the right notes at the wrong time and you got crap. Play them at the appropriate time and you have music.
Wayner  :D

 :lol: Good one.

hifiman5

Re: Component designers
« Reply #26 on: 25 Mar 2010, 12:24 am »
Let's not forget modifiers who examine circuit layouts and part selection of established gear and design their own circuits to modify and maximize the sonic potential of the original piece.  Granted...you have to be careful swimming in these waters, but if you find a truly dedicated modifier who knows circuit design, has good ears and the technical knowhow you can harvest tremendous results.

RHB Dezign took my modest cj PV12L line stage to a whole different level.  Did it cost me some green?  Yep.  Was it worth it?  Are you kidding me?  I'm smiling as I type this because of those mods!  :D

warnerwh

Re: Component designers
« Reply #27 on: 26 Mar 2010, 07:46 am »
It wouldn't matter to me if a monkey designed the product. If it is good engineering and quality construction that is mainly what matters. Performance for the money needs to be fair. This monkey should not charge a million bananas for something that is no more than a fancy faceplate and hype and/or lies. And lastly but very important is honesty and integrity with his/her customers.