DAC/PRE?

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Re: DAC/PRE?
« Reply #20 on: 30 Aug 2009, 06:14 pm »
There are a lot of folks that are interested in hi-rez audio.  I briefly (very, very briefly) compared a red book and a hi-rez version of a recording at Zybar's home, and I thought that there was a slight difference. 

They actually did a great study on exactly this.  They directly compared 16 bit vs. 24 bit recordings over three different levels of system quality (i.e., price-point) and had hundreds of golden ears listen and compare the recordings (double-blind).

Results?  No difference.  The only time that people could reliably differentiate between 16 bit and 24 but were at exceedingly high volume levels. 

Frank's been saying this all along... And now there's data to confirm it.  I've read the article, and it's sound...w/ no threats to internal or external validity.

I don't plan to venture into hi-rez unless the red book format becomes obsolete, like 8-track tapes, but newer listeners might buy into the need for equipment with hi-rez capabilities, which would potentially reduce the sales opportunities for manufacturers that don't have those products.

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Re: DAC/PRE?
« Reply #21 on: 31 Aug 2009, 12:47 pm »
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There are a lot of folks that are interested in hi-rez audio.  I briefly (very, very briefly) compared a red book and a hi-rez version of a recording at Zybar's home, and I thought that there was a slight difference.  Zybar has a very detailed system, and with a less revealing system, I don't know how noticeable, if at all, the difference would be. Regardless, hi-rez formats, because of marketing strategies, superiority, and/or whatever, are apparently becoming more prominent, and I wouldn't be surprised if, in the nearer future, the majority of newly produced music was in a hi-rez format.  If that is the situation, it might be more difficult to sell a DAC that didn't accept hi-rez material.

Hey Henry, thanks for sharing what you heard, I have come to value your observations and opinions.  8)

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Re: DAC/PRE?
« Reply #22 on: 31 Aug 2009, 06:15 pm »
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There are a lot of folks that are interested in hi-rez audio.  I briefly (very, very briefly) compared a red book and a hi-rez version of a recording at Zybar's home, and I thought that there was a slight difference.  Zybar has a very detailed system, and with a less revealing system, I don't know how noticeable, if at all, the difference would be. Regardless, hi-rez formats, because of marketing strategies, superiority, and/or whatever, are apparently becoming more prominent, and I wouldn't be surprised if, in the nearer future, the majority of newly produced music was in a hi-rez format.  If that is the situation, it might be more difficult to sell a DAC that didn't accept hi-rez material.

Hey Henry, thanks for sharing what you heard, I have come to value your observations and opinions.  8)

Marty, that is quite a compliment, especially from an expert such as yourself.  I don't intend to discount your compliment in any way, but I should mention that I am rather inexperienced, and I don't have many other forum members' and your critical listening abilities.  Also, my listening session was only a few minutes. Zybar could undoubtedly articulate the distinctions in a more helpful way, but I don't think that he peruses this forum.   

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Re: DAC/PRE?
« Reply #23 on: 31 Aug 2009, 07:00 pm »
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Marty, that is quite a compliment, especially from an expert such as yourself.  I don't intend to discount your compliment in any way, but I should mention that I am rather inexperienced, and I don't have many other forum members' and your critical listening abilities.  Also, my listening session was only a few minutes. Zybar could undoubtedly articulate the distinctions in a more helpful way, but I don't think that he peruses this forum. 

An expert like me :o  :lol: 
I really do appreciate your unassuming, and unbiased, clearly stated observations.