New to the world of audiophilia

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indiancurry

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New to the world of audiophilia
« on: 18 Jun 2008, 10:13 am »
Hi

I thought I can be a reasonably good audiophile, but my system proved it wrong. I am still at the starting block. My problem runs as follows, but first about my system:

AV Receiver - Yamaha RX 556
Front LR Speakers - Paradigm Monitor 9
Center Speaker - Paradigm
Surround LR Speakers - Infinity Renaissance 9
Subwoofer - AR S10
Stereo Amp - Sansui AU X11
CD Player - Denon

I have connected the TV cable receiver through the AV receiver which already has the 5.1 setup, however, unless I increase the receiver's volume to 40 DB, I can hardly hear anything through the speakers. I had previously run the TV cable through the Sansui phono input & the front LR speakers & boy, it is clear!

Is there anything I am doing wrong? The Front LR speakers are set to small because I want the lower frequencies going to the sub, the sub crossover is set to 60Hz because even if THX certifies 80Hz, 60Hz is the maximum lower frequencies can be heard best with a sub. The connecting wires have all been double checked twoce, bought them from Brisbane last year & I have done bi-wiring.

What can be the problem with my receiver set up? Forgot to mention that although the Sansui tends to be a bit bright, I would never trade it for any other amp for stereo. It's a true audiophile classic.

Would appreciate any input. Thanks!

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Re: New to the world of audiophilia
« Reply #1 on: 18 Jun 2008, 11:14 am »
Welcome indiancurry,

I'm not highly experienced in home theater, more into audio, (big difference around here), but it seems like what you're hearing is crosstalk.  Crosstalk is a relatively high strength signal "bleeding over" from one ciruit into another.  So my guess that the TV signal is somewhere inside the receiver, but not on the "right" circuit.  This usually occurs from parallel wiring (in this case inside the receiver) or a less than perfect switch.  Have you tried switching to different inputs (sources) using the input selector on the receiver?  Those receivers have about 10 different sets of input options.

Those dang AV receivers only have about 300 places to plug in wires in the back and if you're having to do with with a 6 foot long arm with 3 elbows while holding a mirror in the other hand, balancing with your head against something, and holding a flashlight in your mouth, it can be pretty easy to plug into the wrong place.   :o  So the TV could be wired up wrong to the TV.  Between switches and plugs, there has got to be several million ways to do this wrong.    :?

It switching and checking wires doesn't help, go back to the beginning and take it one step at a time.  Unplug everything and start with the simpliest setup, something like cable/satellite box to TV, TV to receiver, receiver to speakers.  If that works connect another component at a time into the receiver and check to make sure that both work.  Repeat until your done.  (Not that I've ever had to do any of this.   :oops:)

As far as your equipment goes, your mid-fi.  The average guy here is hi-fi.  But out there are the ultra-fi dudes.  And there are lots of different "flavors" of audio (tube, vinyl, vintage, digital amps, computer sources, planar speakers, open baffles, single drivers, folks that swear by clean power, folks with dedicated listening rooms, etc.  So look around and hopefully have some fun.

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Re: New to the world of audiophilia
« Reply #2 on: 18 Jun 2008, 11:18 am »
Have you checked the level in the Yammy as well as the level in the cable box? 

Connecting to the phono input provides a lot more gain (and phono EQ) - quite honestly, I'm suprised it didn't overload nad sound very very bass heavy.

Bryan

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Re: New to the world of audiophilia
« Reply #3 on: 18 Jun 2008, 12:54 pm »
Thanks! Will give it a shot, looks like my weekend will end up on the 6 foot, 3 elbow high-fi bliss  :green:

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Re: New to the world of audiophilia
« Reply #4 on: 18 Jun 2008, 08:30 pm »
These folks are helpful, a quick glance showed a few threads involving Yamaha AV recievers:
http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=18
Check their other forums too.

Another site:
http://www.htguide.com/forum/forumdisplay.php4?f=36

Good luck!
Don

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Re: New to the world of audiophilia
« Reply #5 on: 18 Jun 2008, 09:34 pm »
Hi

I thought I can be a reasonably good audiophile, but my system proved it wrong. I am still at the starting block. My problem runs as follows, but first about my system:

AV Receiver - Yamaha RX 556
Front LR Speakers - Paradigm Monitor 9
Center Speaker - Paradigm
Surround LR Speakers - Infinity Renaissance 9
Subwoofer - AR S10
Stereo Amp - Sansui AU X11
CD Player - Denon

I have connected the TV cable receiver through the AV receiver which already has the 5.1 setup, however, unless I increase the receiver's volume to 40 DB, I can hardly hear anything through the speakers. I had previously run the TV cable through the Sansui phono input & the front LR speakers & boy, it is clear!

Is there anything I am doing wrong? The Front LR speakers are set to small because I want the lower frequencies going to the sub, the sub crossover is set to 60Hz because even if THX certifies 80Hz, 60Hz is the maximum lower frequencies can be heard best with a sub. The connecting wires have all been double checked twoce, bought them from Brisbane last year & I have done bi-wiring.

What can be the problem with my receiver set up? Forgot to mention that although the Sansui tends to be a bit bright, I would never trade it for any other amp for stereo. It's a true audiophile classic.

Would appreciate any input. Thanks!

How are you connecting your cable box to the AVR?  I have a Direct TV Box connected to my Denon AVR using an HDMI connection.  Another option on the Direct Box was to use an optical connection. 

Good Luck,

Ken

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Re: New to the world of audiophilia
« Reply #6 on: 21 Jun 2008, 03:35 pm »
Are speaker levels set correctly, if you have them all leveled at say 0db and some are at plus minus 1db you could always go higher on your gain as long as your levels are matched you could run everything at +10db if desired.

You may be going left and right RCA from source box for TV, go Digital Toslink or Coax and if you do this or already are going digital confirm the TV box knows how you are to output sound, also make sure the box's output level is not set very low.
 My TW cable box has settings for Dynamic range (midnight theater) output volume, Analog or Digital, and fixed or variable audio so any nuber of these could affect the sound output.

indiancurry

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Re: New to the world of audiophilia
« Reply #7 on: 21 Jun 2008, 09:57 pm »
Thanks! I'll check out the TV receiver options