OB maybe..

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Brad

Re: OB maybe..
« Reply #20 on: 10 Jun 2008, 03:04 am »
Nice project Mike!

Nice room, too - is that your basement?

You might try a helper woofer driven by a plate amp.
For me, the naturalness of OB bass, especially on drums....good stuff... :thumb:

mgalusha

Re: OB maybe..
« Reply #21 on: 10 Jun 2008, 03:12 am »
Thanks Brad.

Yep, it's my basement. Finally have a dedicated listening room. Some photos and info can be found here

I may indeed add a woofer in the bottom. Since I'm using an active XO (my other speakers are actively biamped) I can use the Rotel for the woofs, it will do 400W/4R, should be sufficient. I do like the bass I'm getting and while it doesn't go real deep it's not too bad either. Need to get the measurement rig setup and see what I have.

mgalusha

Re: OB maybe..
« Reply #22 on: 10 Jun 2008, 12:47 pm »
I remembered this morning that I have a pair of Vifa PL22WR-09-08 woofers gathering dust. Looking at the specs the Qts is only .34, so probably not suitable to add as a "helper" woofer as Brad puts but I could be wrong. Any thoughts?

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Re: OB maybe..
« Reply #23 on: 10 Jun 2008, 12:51 pm »
Very cool Mike.

I think you should pick up some of Danny's new woofers and try them in an OB frame.   :drool:

George

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Re: OB maybe..
« Reply #24 on: 10 Jun 2008, 03:08 pm »
Indeed nice Mike.

I can see that you treat wood with the same skill as electronic parts in the projects you have posted about in the Lab Circle !
Glad to have assisted somewhat.

The Vifa might be a bit to 'little' with an X-max of 4 mm. If you are going to measure I think you will get a good picture of what is needed in bassassistance.

/Erling



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Re: OB maybe..
« Reply #25 on: 10 Jun 2008, 06:49 pm »
Agree that the Vifa though free, is likely not the best driver for OB bass.

I would look for something with more swept area (12, 15, 18?), a slightly higher QTS (0.6-1.0), more XMAX (10 would be nice, more is generally better), and with a similar FS - the Vifa's 27 is good.

You might be surprised where you can find some good bass drivers - I find that car audio holds a number of good candidates - all the dual voice coil drivers can be used with one coil left open, and this doubles the effective QTS - I have done this with good success for years now...

I do second the Danny 15's though... they look very very tasty!

Brad

Re: OB maybe..
« Reply #26 on: 11 Jun 2008, 02:33 am »
Mike,

I was trying to avoid an 'outright' pitch for the Augies, which I am using to great effect in my OBs  :D
If I didn't already have them, I would take a good look at Danny's new OB woofers with custom amp.

mgalusha

Re: OB maybe..
« Reply #27 on: 11 Jun 2008, 03:02 am »
Ya, I went and read up on Danny's new drivers and amp and that sure looks to be a sweet setup. Wish I had some extra $$ to drop on some new toys. Well I do but I've already earmarked it (and got my wife's buy in) for another project. Who knows, maybe I can sell some of the junk sitting around here.

kyrill

Re: OB maybe..
« Reply #28 on: 11 Jun 2008, 01:07 pm »
Ya, I went and read up on Danny's new drivers and amp and that sure looks to be a sweet setup. Wish I had some extra $$ to drop on some new toys. Well I do but I've already earmarked it (and got my wife's buy in) for another project. Who knows, maybe I can sell some of the junk sitting around here.

i am still very newbee in OB which danny do you refer to?

ah thx for the link
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mgalusha

Re: OB maybe..
« Reply #29 on: 11 Jun 2008, 01:32 pm »
i am still very newbee in OB which danny do you refer to?

Danny Ritchie of GR Research. He is working with Brian Ding of Rythmik Audio. Danny has a new driver that works in conjunction with the Rythmik servo amp and is designed for use in an open baffle. There is a long thread in the GR circle where these are discussed. http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=47310.0

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Re: OB maybe..
« Reply #30 on: 11 Jun 2008, 03:13 pm »