[bpape]

Ever tried the Ven Haus cables?  Some of his interconnects are OFC positives and silver on the return side. 

Bryan+

[Toka]

How do the Speltz IC's do with RFI/EMI rejection?

[rollo]

Toka,
        I live in NYC and have NOT had an issue with RFI or EMI.Actually there pretty quite when inserted.I use a one meter pair from CDP to TVC.Hope this helps
rollo

[Toka]

Thanks for the info, rollo!

[gme109]

Scotty,
 good point,however I feel that can be said with the insertion of any quality IC silver or copper.We have tried Nordst through RAdio shack basically with the same results Silver does NOT have the emotional impact or body and soul as copper and copper dosn't have the clarity,detail and speed of silver.
     Now if we could get the benifits of both in one cable now were talking.There is NO BETTER CABLE[copper vs silver] just different presentations
      We as a club do not have experience with VDH cables as he is reluctant to send any for our evaluation.
       rollo

That is exactly what I'm hearing when comparing Crystal Clear Audio Ref. solid core silver speaker cables to Acrotec copper speaker cables. The silver has greater clarity, detail, speed and dynamics, but can't touch the copper Acrotec when it comes to conveying the emotional soul and harmonics of the music. Now I can't live without having both, what to do?

[rollo]

gme109,
             Try the copper IC between pre &amp and the silver between CDP & pre.You should get the flavor of copper as the end result with some more clarity and detail,just seems to take advantage of both designs.Kind of like a good marriage.
              I've found that the last link you make appears to show itself more with some of the character of initial link.Don't know why.Try it and let us know.
rollo

[gme109]

gme109,
             Try the copper IC between pre &amp and the silver between CDP & pre.You should get the flavor of copper as the end result with some more clarity and detail,just seems to take advantage of both designs.Kind of like a good marriage.
              I've found that the last link you make appears to show itself more with some of the character of initial link.Don't know why.Try it and let us know.
rollo

I should have pointed out, that I'm was referring to speaker cable. As for ic, I'm using the Crystal Clear Audio silver between my cdp (using built-in volume) and amp. Sounds like good advice though, thanks.

[mfsoa]

Hi guys,
I've read that the stock spades on the speaker cables aren't too high quality.

Does anyone have experience replacing them with something better?

Or can they be ordered with something "upgraded"?

Thanks

-Mike

[guest1632]

Hi guys,
I've read that the stock spades on the speaker cables aren't too high quality.

Does anyone have experience replacing them with something better?

Or can they be ordered with something "upgraded"?

Thanks

-Mike

Hi Mike,

If your binding posts on your speakers has holes in them, I'd just wire the anticable wire direct without the spades.

Ray

[rollo]

Hi guys,
I've read that the stock spades on the speaker cables aren't too high quality.

Does anyone have experience replacing them with something better?

Or can they be ordered with something "upgraded"?

Thanks

-Mike

No spades =more signal,no extra impedance on signal.If you don't trust this measure it,you might be supprised with the reading[ohms].
rollo

Hi Mike,

If your binding posts on your speakers has holes in them, I'd just wire the anticable wire direct without the spades.

Ray

[kirch]

I've got the Anti Cables and the Mapleshade Golden Helix.  Both about the same price ($90-ish delivered) and I'm very impressed with both, maybe lean a little toward the GHs. 

Had the stiff garden hose variety $1200 cables (PSaudio) and these blow those away, and at $1100 less.  How can we (I) be that gullible???  Yikes.

[guest1632]

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 author=kirch link=topic=34580.msg318395#msg318395 date=1168717287]
I've got the Anti Cables and the Mapleshade Golden Helix.  Both about the same price ($90-ish delivered) and I'm very impressed with both, maybe lean a little toward the GHs. 

Had the stiff garden hose variety $1200 cables (PSaudio) and these blow those away, and at $1100 less.  How can we (I) be that gullible???  Yikes.

[/quote]

Hi, Don't know if this is a trend or not, but maybe we're starting to see cables at a relatively affordable price walk all over the multi kilobuck stuff.

On the Anticable stuff, isn't there a short breakin period?

Ray

[kirch]

I honestly can't say anything about a break in period on solid wire, which is what both of these are.  I can say they sound great right outta the box.  If they get better over time, great, if not, I won't be disappointed 'cause I like them already.  I still have a hard time believing in break in time for something like a solid wire.  I think that my ears adjust to sound of the cable, not the cable changing.  But that's just my opinion. 

[guest1632]

I honestly can't say anything about a break in period on solid wire, which is what both of these are.  I can say they sound great right outta the box.  If they get better over time, great, if not, I won't be disappointed 'cause I like them already.  I still have a hard time believing in break in time for something like a solid wire.  I think that my ears adjust to sound of the cable, not the cable changing.  But that's just my opinion. 

Hi, What's different about the Maple Shade cable. They both are solid core wire.

Ray

[kirch]

Ray - The golden helix are much thinner, two thin, "oxygen free" wires wrapped around eachother, non-terminated.  The anti-cables are a bit heavier gauge and come either as banana or spade and are typically separated, but of course you can wrap them together if you want.  Actually, you can also get them non-terminated as well.  Probably a bit cheaper.

Anyway, the the Anti-cables are probably 3 times thicker.  But they're both still pretty thin.  I'd compare the Anti-Cable gauge to just a little less than say, one of those cheaper shirt hangers, and the GH to say, a paper clip,  maybe thinner?    You can see pics of both on their respective web sites.

Something about the Golden Helix that I can't quite put my finger on, but I prefer them just a bit, but use both.  GH on my tube system and the AC on my solid state system.  Still, both are an excellent value in my opinion. 

[guest1632]

Ray - The golden helix are much thinner, two thin, "oxygen free" wires wrapped around eachother, non-terminated.  The anti-cables are a bit heavier gauge and come either as banana or spade and are typically separated, but of course you can wrap them together if you want.  Actually, you can also get them non-terminated as well.  Probably a bit cheaper.

Anyway, the the Anti-cables are probably 3 times thicker.  But they're both still pretty thin.  I'd compare the Anti-Cable gauge to just a little less than say, one of those cheaper shirt hangers, and the GH to say, a paper clip,  maybe thinner?    You can see pics of both on their respective web sites.

Something about the Golden Helix that I can't quite put my finger on, but I prefer them just a bit, but use both.  GH on my tube system and the AC on my solid state system.  Still, both are an excellent value in my opinion. 

Hi, Well, that sounds real good. According to the website, the AC cables are 12 gauge. You can get the wire in bulk for $1.25 per foot. Don't know if he has a minimum amount though. What kind of insolation is on the Maples?

Ray

[kirch]

Hey Ray - here's some copy from the mapleshaderecords.com website:

"Hook up these $85 wires and you’ll think you just spent $500 or $1000 more on your speakers. The first thing you’ll hear is inexplicably improved fidelity, across-the-board. Check out Dark Side of the Moon – the opening heartbeat’ll sound supernatural. Your woofers won’t boom like that annoying purple Honda CRX that I always get stuck next to at stoplights. All bass instruments – acoustic, electric or synthesized – will immediately have more punch and cleaner harmonics. Singers will sound like they’ve stepped two feet closer. When you listen to your favorite CDs, you’ll hear details you’ve never heard before. Henri from Salt Lake told us, “Everything improved, the music seemed to be a lot closer to my ears and my heart.”
 

Here’s what’s special about our speaker cables: They’re handmade from silver-plated, single strand, high-purity copper wire drawn and heat-treated to our spec. Our cable is coated with ultra-thin (less than .0002”) low loss insulation, twisted into a super-tight, field-canceling helix. Each cable is given four hours of our proprietary crystal-modifying treatment.

The result is an amazing, inexpensive speaker cable. Our Golden Helix is competitively priced with Monster Cable you can buy off-the-rack at Best Buy. But its performance slays cables costing 20 times more! In head-to-head listening tests, our Golden Helix has bested the Audioquest Gibralter, Kimber 8TC, XLO Ultra 6, Wireworld Atlantis II, Straight Wire Rhapsody 5 as well as high-priced cables by Monster, Tara Labs, Goertz and DH Labs. Henri was an especially happy customer: our Golden Helix replaced his $4000 Synergistic Research Designer's Reference cables. As he put it, “More music for three thousand nine hundred and fifteen dollars less, (that’s) a good deal if I ever saw one.” 30-day money back."

Not much more I can add, other than I like 'em. ~Kirch