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Two votes for Lumin. I'll keep that in mind. First priorities are amplification and speakers. Neither the Mac 1700 or Kestrels are going away. The Kestrels go to the music room and the Mac goes to my office. I'll probably stick with McIntosh for the amplification although I'm also looking at possibly going into tubes with Rogue Cronus Magnum or Prima Luna Dialogue. I'm at even more loose ends with regard to speakers. Oh well,shopping is a lot cheaper than buying.)