[hawkeyejw]

The above has not been clear in the least.

Here is the Jay's iyagi video showing him ordering the speakers from the GR Research website with the upgrades, stating the price of "One thousand four hundred ninety-three dollars."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxlUYfpxNMY&t=2483s

If you are saying that's false then ok, there are conflicting claims here.

Except, as has been said multiple times, he didn’t order the speakers from GR. Not even Jay himself is claiming that. He explains in the video where he got them from. It seems like you’re stirring up things just to stir them up. If you don’t think Jay’s review is meaningful or valid then just don’t watch it or use it to make decisions. What’s your goal here?

[newzooreview]

Because the X-LS is DIY…

The XL-S Encore, X-Bravo, X-On Wall, and LGK 2.0 are all available as fully assembled speakers in a choice of wood veneers from GR Research. That is what Jay's iyagi Youtube channel ordered for review (according to their statements).

Regarding Pass, please pick another manufacturer:
https://renohifi.com/faqhelp.htm

Apples and oranges. Pass Labs did not send an amp for review with a different amp for sale on their website.

[newzooreview]

Not even Jay himself is stating that.

Jay very clearly states that he ordered the speakers directly from the GR Research website. Here's the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxlUYfpxNMY&t=2483s

Then New Record Day posts a video saying explicitly that he "…has been burning them in for Danny for the last week." https://youtu.be/J3xbDugleP0?t=3057

From available data, it looks as if the speakers were ordered from the GR Research website --> sent out to be built (apparently by Frederick) --> sent back to GR Research --> sent to New Record Day --> sent to Jay's iyagi.

[VinceT]

Jay very clearly states that he ordered the speakers directly from the GR Research website. Here's the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxlUYfpxNMY&t=2483s

Then New Record Day posts a video saying explicitly that he "…has been burning them in for Danny for the last week." https://youtu.be/J3xbDugleP0?t=3057

From available data, it looks as if the speakers were ordered from the GR Research website --> sent out to be built (apparently by Frederick) --> sent back to GR Research --> sent to New Record Day --> sent to Jay's iyagi.

And there are no parts so Frederick had to source what he could where he could as he already explained. GR has back ordered Encore kits from months ago .  SCOOOBY DOOBY DOOO

[Danny Richie]

Please let me clear some things up for you.

Jay very clearly states that he ordered the speakers directly from the GR Research website. Here's the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxlUYfpxNMY&t=2483s

We did not receive any order from Jay.

Then New Record Day posts a video saying explicitly that he "…has been burning them in for Danny for the last week." https://youtu.be/J3xbDugleP0?t=3057

Yep, that is the pair Frederick sent to us. As already stated, he wanted to make sure that he assembled them correctly before they went on to a reviewer. He did a great job, by the way.

From available data, it looks as if the speakers were ordered from the GR Research website --> sent out to be built (apparently by Frederick) --> sent back to GR Research --> sent to New Record Day --> sent to Jay's iyagi.

The parts for that pair were acquired in the used market from a customer that never built out the pair that he ordered. Who that customer was, I have no idea. All was sent to Frederick for assembly just as Frederick explained in his post. Frederick sent them to us to be checked. We loaned them out to Ron for a week. Ron is two miles away from us. We got them back and shipped them out to Jay....  None of this really matters one bit.

newzooreview, the group of people that hang out and post here are the best. They are the nicest, most helpful, contributors, and form the best community on the internet. If you need help with just about anything then you are in a great place. If you want to share anything with the group related to audio, you can. This is the place. However, if you are here to stir up trouble or cause problems. You are in the wrong place. If your post become a problem it can be made to where you don't post here anymore.   

[sunnydaze]

......If your post become a problem it can be made to where you don't post here anymore.

Can't happen soon enough!!     

[Folsom]

I would mention to Jay about why the basket isn't metal.

[Hobbsmeerkat]

I would mention to Jay about why the basket isn't metal.

We already have.

[mlundy57]

We already have.

IIRC, at one time Danny had a pic of a truck with one of the baskets under a wheel showing it was made out of a strong polymer and not a cheap plastic.

[Hobbsmeerkat]

Yup, we sent him those pictures too! 

[goggle1824]

I don’t really watch this reviewer’s channel, honestly I’m only aware of it through it being mentioned in one or two of the GR Research videos, just being upfront. Since becoming aware of it, I have watched a couple different videos and have determined I’m not likely his target audience.

Regardless, I find it somewhat interesting that he requires as much hand holding he appears TO ME to be getting to review a pair of speakers. I wonder if the experience is at all similar to his experience buying and reviewing the CSS product he did in 2020. I mention this because my perception is that that product and business model is pretty similar to GR Research, I’m completely open to people correcting me if I’m misinformed here.

I’m not sure I care if he thinks the drivers are “cheap plastic”, has he not done any background research on these units, they have existed in this current form for YEARS. I’m MUCH, MUCH more interested in how they sound/perform and his impressions of them, both as stand alone units and compared to other units he has heard/reviewed in his space. I feel like I do understand the potential implications of a review of a poor representative sample of a product or for that matter, service. I also understand that GR Research is a small business and they go to great lengths to support their products as well as their customers. So I feel like I understand why Hobbs and crew at GR are “supporting” the reviewer in this case, it just feels like a bit much to me personally.

Last thought, is Jay actually a “customer” at this point or not? Just curious on what others think. Since the speakers weren’t provided by GR Research directly and don’t have to be “sent back” after the review is completed… and they weren’t bought from GR Research but arguably ARE representative samples of some level of a GR Research product available to purchase. It does seem to have gotten fairly “involved” to the say the least, maybe this is par for the course behind the scenes though, I honestly have no idea what goes into all of this “sausage making” so to speak.