Yamaha TA2024, anyone have it for $7?

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gychang

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Yamaha TA2024, anyone have it for $7?
« on: 7 Feb 2015, 02:58 am »
I hear from a reliable source this amp is very good, so I ordered and finally received 2x from china.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/400738359092?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

somewhat confusing description:
Comes with 4 groups gain mode settings
The chip comes with amp function (need extra components), what does it mean?

Does anyone know how to adjust gain?, no answer from the seller.  I have not hooked it up yet...



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Re: Yamaha TA2024, anyone have it for $7?
« Reply #1 on: 7 Feb 2015, 03:37 am »
I would say its fixed gain, hence the FX term in the board model:
2578AY-FX and FX138/5

Markvdv

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Re: Yamaha TA2024, anyone have it for $7?
« Reply #2 on: 7 Feb 2015, 09:13 am »
http://www.elserw.com.pl/baza/PDFy/YDA138.pdf

FX are initials producer ampboard

gychang

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Re: Yamaha TA2024, anyone have it for $7?
« Reply #3 on: 7 Feb 2015, 11:51 am »
http://www.elserw.com.pl/baza/PDFy/YDA138.pdf

FX are initials producer ampboard

thanks, no obvious way to adjust gain in my view...

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Re: Yamaha TA2024, anyone have it for $7?
« Reply #4 on: 7 Feb 2015, 02:08 pm »
There is a section on First Stage Amplifier Gain Setting Function on page 6. Not exactly sure what it means though in response to your question.

gychang

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Re: Yamaha TA2024, anyone have it for $7?
« Reply #5 on: 7 Feb 2015, 11:04 pm »
There is a section on First Stage Amplifier Gain Setting Function on page 6. Not exactly sure what it means though in response to your question.

I wanted to know if there was a switch of some sort that can change the gain.  Usually when I listen thru my PC, the pot is at maximum and when listen from my CD player, pot is way down to "normal" position...

gychang

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Re: Yamaha TA2024, anyone have it for $7?
« Reply #6 on: 7 Feb 2015, 11:09 pm »
I got a chance to listen to the board on my diy bookshelf speakers.

It sound very nice in stock form.  Pleasantly surprised, wonder on higher end speakers how it would sound.
On default gain, it seems to be louder at maximum gain than my TA2020 Helder amp.

It also has a built-in headphone jack which seems to work, but not much of a heaphone person.

Would be interested in others and encourage others to spend some change to see what u all think... :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Yamaha TA2024, anyone have it for $7?
« Reply #7 on: 8 Feb 2015, 11:28 am »
Seems the gain are the L1 L2 L3 L4 blue K220, two per channel.

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Re: Yamaha TA2024, anyone have it for $7?
« Reply #8 on: 9 Feb 2015, 05:51 pm »
Seems the gain are the L1 L2 L3 L4 blue K220, two per channel.

guess not really adjustable without soldering....

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Re: Yamaha TA2024, anyone have it for $7?
« Reply #9 on: 10 Feb 2015, 06:07 am »
Seems the gain are the L1 L2 L3 L4 blue K220, two per channel.

L1 to L4 are the output inductors so have no influence on the gain.
The chip provides an input sensitivity setting (pin 26 & 27) but I don't know how this is implemented on this pcb.
On the extra amp function: it seems the chip has a separate headphone amp (2x50mW) so you'd probably need some parts added to the pcb to use it.

Cheers,
Johan

EDIT: what Doublej said points to setting gain. Next time I'll try to read first before answering...
« Last Edit: 10 Feb 2015, 08:10 am by JohanH »

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Re: Yamaha TA2024, anyone have it for $7?
« Reply #10 on: 10 Feb 2015, 10:34 am »
The PCB description say:
Built-in 4 groups Gain Mode, can adapt to different sources.
Which seems an auto gain setting inside the chip, not a manual control gain.

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Re: Yamaha TA2024, anyone have it for $7?
« Reply #11 on: 10 Feb 2015, 11:09 am »
The PCB description say:
Built-in 4 groups Gain Mode, can adapt to different sources.
Which seems an auto gain setting inside the chip, not a manual control gain.

And doublej pointed correctly to the chips datasheet that states gain control is set by 2 pins



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Re: Yamaha TA2024, anyone have it for $7?
« Reply #12 on: 10 Feb 2015, 11:22 am »
And doublej pointed correctly to the chips datasheet that states gain control is set by 2 pins


As I said before fixed gain.

gychang

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Re: Yamaha TA2024, anyone have it for $7?
« Reply #13 on: 10 Feb 2015, 12:55 pm »
for this novice, is there a switch of some sort ?

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« Reply #14 on: 10 Feb 2015, 01:58 pm »
for this novice, is there a switch of some sort ?

No, no switch.
You'd have to identify pins 26 & 27, see how they are connected now and then make a decision on if you'd want to change the settings.
You could add a switch.
Both require some experience with smd soldering.
So, not for the novice I'm afraid.

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Re: Yamaha TA2024, anyone have it for $7?
« Reply #15 on: 10 Feb 2015, 04:04 pm »
No, no switch.
You'd have to identify pins 26 & 27, see how they are connected now and then make a decision on if you'd want to change the settings.
You could add a switch.
Both require some experience with smd soldering.
So, not for the novice I'm afraid.

thanks, SMD soldering, can't do.

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Re: Yamaha TA2024, anyone have it for $7?
« Reply #16 on: 10 Feb 2015, 10:13 pm »
SMD soldering not easy and can change the chip performance.
Otherwise it inexpensive.