LS-C Build

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gijogeo

LS-C Build
« on: 10 Jan 2012, 04:15 pm »
Thanks to threads and pics from Ruben, Nick et al convinced myself to assemble one of this  :thumb:. The center channel in my system was a real weak link in my 5.1 system and been thinking for some time to get a new one. Stumbled upon the LS-C pics and they couldn't have come at a better time. The kit just came in yesterday and I had started work on the cab a few days back. Aiming for the elusive piano black finish. I'm getting the cabinet work done at a woodworking unit owned by a relative since I don't have the resources to do it myself. A few pics.

All panels cut


Front and rear baffles





Pretty happy with the round overs.




Dry Fit







Bought all the router bits required for the build and learned a thing or two about routing. Tried my hand at a bit of woodworking and did the routing on the braces. Was pretty fun.




Had the cabinet except the front baffle assembled today.













Need to stick on the bitumen pads for dampening and get the silicone sealant along the joints tomorrow. I may look into a walnut veneer finish if the skins are available. Have to start work on the XO. I more or less remember where I went wrong, since I don't do much of soldering, on the last one so hoping to get better at it. The woofer wiring seems a bit confusing though. Danny, don't know if I'm allowed to discuss the wiring diagram that you sent on the circle so sent you a pm.






Peter J

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Re: LS-C Build
« Reply #1 on: 10 Jan 2012, 04:37 pm »
Looking good, Gijo. Where are you located, I've only seen that green MDF a time or two in specific applications.

Not sure what you'd be sealing with silicone caulk, but I'd reccommend avoiding it. After all it's not a sealed speaker. Silicone is a finisher's nightmare and assuming you have decent glue joints, adds nothing to strength of cabinet. Even if you're not putting it on finished surfaces, it seems to migrate onto them. Nothing adheres to it well, it causes fisheyes in paint, almost impossible to remove completely, not to mention a host of other problems that aren't easily fixable. If you must caulk, there are better choices.

Can you tell I'm biased? I swear they should sell the stuff only with a prescription and educate people about it's best uses. The labels would lead one to believe it's absolutely wonderful for everything...I would disagree, I've seen as many problems created as solved.

Climbing down from my high horse now...

gijogeo

Re: LS-C Build
« Reply #2 on: 10 Jan 2012, 05:09 pm »
Wow Peter thanks that's great info and not too soon either. The silicone sealant was my idea from the little that I had gathered from some speaker build threads on 100% sealing off butt joints against any air leaks. Its the one in the pic below.


 
Another reason for the above was I didn't use clamps after gluing. The carpenter was very confidant that I wouldn't need clamps on the cabinet since he had used a nail gun on all joints. Don't know what you call them but it's those thin 1mm nails without the head. The cab looked pretty well glued after the work. He claimed that these nails dont just help connect the pieces but apparently pull them towards each other kind of replicating the work of clamps.

Coming from some one as experienced as you I think I'll stick to the bitumen pads for the corners as well.

gijogeo

Re: LS-C Build
« Reply #3 on: 10 Jan 2012, 05:11 pm »
I' from India by the way, south. State called Kerala. The green MDF is my first as well. Its apparently a high grade variety that the unit had in stock so I opted for it.
Gijo

Danny Richie

Re: LS-C Build
« Reply #4 on: 10 Jan 2012, 05:21 pm »
Wow, nice work on the box. I PM'ed you a response to your crossover questions.

Skiman

Re: LS-C Build
« Reply #5 on: 10 Jan 2012, 06:46 pm »
OSHA would not be very happy with barefoot workers in a shop with power tools, etc. here the USA.

Nick77

Re: LS-C Build
« Reply #6 on: 10 Jan 2012, 08:04 pm »
Gijo, looking good on the build. Glad i could help with the inspiration.  :wink:

I didnt clamp my cabinet either, used only brads and glue and its solid as a rock so i wouldnt worry. I dont think that silicone would be neccessary either as mentioned.

You are going to love this center, it more than excels over my HT electronics. It will serve for many upgrades.  :thumb:

doug067

Re: LS-C Build
« Reply #7 on: 11 Jan 2012, 02:34 am »
Green boards had me going
Build looks good! You gonna no rez them too?
Your gonna really like the sound outta this!!

gijogeo

Re: LS-C Build
« Reply #8 on: 11 Jan 2012, 02:57 am »
Gijo, looking good on the build. Glad i could help with the inspiration.  :wink:

I didnt clamp my cabinet either, used only brads and glue and its solid as a rock so i wouldnt worry. I dont think that silicone would be neccessary either as mentioned.

You are going to love this center, it more than excels over my HT electronics. It will serve for many upgrades.  :thumb:

Thanks Nick. Glad to hear about your center working well. I can't wait to to hook it up.

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Green boards had me going
Build looks good! You gonna no rez them too?
Your gonna really like the sound outta this!!

THanks Doug. As much as I would like to use Norez the cost of getting it down here costs as much as the product itself. I'm going to try bitumen pads or industrial tiles if I can get them by today or tomorrow. Could anyone suggest a glue to stick the tiles on the cab walls? I hear contact cement is not the best method.
Thanks

persisting1

Re: LS-C Build
« Reply #9 on: 11 Jan 2012, 07:02 am »
When the LS-C is vertiacal and someone is standing next to it, it really puts it into perspective; that's one big center  :drool:

Congrats on the build!

Nick77

Re: LS-C Build
« Reply #10 on: 11 Jan 2012, 01:17 pm »
Gijo, I used the premium polyurethane construction adhesive with good results on the floor tiles.

johnzm

Re: LS-C Build
« Reply #11 on: 11 Jan 2012, 09:37 pm »
i always love it when i see people working on power tools and assembling speakers without shoes on :green:

it looks really nice!

good luck man and keep all your digits!

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Re: LS-C Build
« Reply #12 on: 14 Jan 2012, 02:45 am »
i always love it when i see people working on power tools and assembling speakers without shoes on :green:

it looks really nice!

good luck man and keep all your digits!

I am a carpenter and it scares me. Or people mowing the lawn in flip flops :duh:...

gijogeo

Re: LS-C Build
« Reply #13 on: 15 Feb 2012, 03:45 am »
Some updates on the build.
This think really dwarfs the TV.


By gijogeo at 2012-02-13


By gijogeo at 2012-02-13

I don't know if you've noticed few red patches along the rim of the tweeter. I may have misplaced the gasket that goes behind the tweeter in the package so I made do with this Gasket Maker.Anyway I've cleaned it as much as possible and touched up the tweeter edges.


By gijogeo at 2012-02-13

Now on how it sounds.
I've been using my cousins Paradigm S60 towers in my HT for some time now. My cousin seems to get by pretty fine with my Mordaunt Short towers.  :green:
While these speakers are OK for music it really whips ass for movies. YOu can almost live without the sub with these beauties. Almost. Along with these I had been using my Mordaunt short center which were seriously outdone with the Paradigms. And lo, I came across the LS-C. I'm a bit too lazy for detailed explanations on sound dynamics but I'll just say that this huge baby now gives the Paradigms a serious run for their money. I was a bit let down initially coz I had to really crank up the volume in getting some serious sound from the center but now its definitely better. (Ofcourse the fact about the speaker needing burn in or my ears did cross my mind but thats another thread.)

For now I'm going to enjoy this monster as & when I get time. :thumb:

persisting1

Re: LS-C Build
« Reply #14 on: 15 Feb 2012, 07:33 am »
Wow, that turned out really well.  If you added a pair of OB/7s up front, you'd have a killer system.  Congrats  :thumb:

grimace

Re: LS-C Build
« Reply #15 on: 15 Feb 2012, 02:40 pm »
Snag these for $1150 and you will be set http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=102356.0

gijogeo

Re: LS-C Build
« Reply #16 on: 15 Feb 2012, 04:51 pm »
Snag these for $1150 and you will be set http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=102356.0

Trust me, if I didn't have to lug these half way round the globe with the hassle of shipping & customs (add another 60-70% for these) I would have buddy. If I were anywhere in the US that would've been sold long time ago.