Other stuff, from Michigan

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Danny Richie

Re: Other stuff, from Michigan
« Reply #40 on: 12 May 2020, 01:20 am »
I'd highly recommend NoRez. I've used a cheaper alternative from Parts Express on my father's cheap Technics speakers, and it really helped dampen the cabinet resonance. (it still needs some braces tho) tho NoRez has the dampening layer directly connected to the adhesive layer, which would help even more. (The chaper stuff has a slim layer of foam between the adhesive and dampening layer)

Regarding that stuff sold by PE. You are better off just lining it with fiberglass insulation. That stuff has no damper and no resonance control. Then the suspended barrier layer tends to mass load the woofer and muddy the mid-range. Pull that stuff out and the sound will improve.

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Re: Other stuff, from Michigan
« Reply #41 on: 12 May 2020, 02:51 am »
Regarding that stuff sold by PE. You are better off just lining it with fiberglass insulation. That stuff has no damper and no resonance control. Then the suspended barrier layer tends to mass load the woofer and muddy the mid-range. Pull that stuff out and the sound will improve.
If it was something more worthwhile, I'd consider it. But these speakers are probably oversized as it is, and lack any bracing or real design.. and the dampener has done a decent job reducing cabinet resonance. I didn't notice any change in the Mids, but the bass was much more controlled, but still not perfect. Anything beyond more bracing, would push these speakers past their actual costs. (Prob $100 in the early 90s)

I'd much rather put that money into better speakers.. :lol:

But as for the AV3s I would recommend Norez first and foremost, as with any other kit.

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« Reply #42 on: 12 May 2020, 10:54 am »
You talking about the av3's lacking bracing and design?

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« Reply #43 on: 12 May 2020, 02:40 pm »
You talking about the av3's lacking bracing and design?
Nah, I'm talking about my dad's 90s Technics speakers.



(This is after i added the dampener material with space left for some future bracing, before it was just bare particle board)

The AV3s are excellently braced, as are all of Danny's designs.

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« Reply #44 on: 12 May 2020, 03:28 pm »
I agree they are braced very well..by your post I thought I bought the wrong kits lol now I just need to figure out what to do for a sub and rear surrounds

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Re: Other stuff, from Michigan
« Reply #45 on: 13 May 2020, 08:37 pm »
I am in clinton township and will be building the nx-xtreme and pair of triple subs in about 3 months. I have a dedicated music room that is fully treated with diffusion as well. Ill post pics here when Im done and anyone in MI is welcome to hear them if they would like.

Look forward to seeing your build. I would love to hear these!

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« Reply #46 on: 13 May 2020, 11:42 pm »
I have them almost fully assembled then just have to paint them


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« Reply #47 on: 14 May 2020, 12:17 am »
they look great so far! What color are you planning on painting them?

hawkeyejw

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« Reply #48 on: 14 May 2020, 01:12 am »
Looking great CCD!

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« Reply #49 on: 14 May 2020, 01:40 am »
White to match fireplace and thanks for the compliments

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« Reply #50 on: 14 May 2020, 01:42 am »
As you can see they are just temporarily set up I wanted to hook them up and make sure I put the crossovers together correctly

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« Reply #51 on: 14 May 2020, 01:48 am »
Anyone has suggestions for a sub and rears for these av3's?

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« Reply #53 on: 14 May 2020, 02:56 am »
You think the rears would work with a cathedral ceiling?

Danny Richie

Re: Other stuff, from Michigan
« Reply #54 on: 14 May 2020, 09:11 pm »
Anyone has suggestions for a sub and rears for these av3's?

The best solution for rear speakers all depends on you room. Ideally you want to be as far away from your rear speakers as you are from your front speakers. In practice that is typically not the case.

So I'd need to know more about your room size and seating distances to really make a good recommendation.

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« Reply #55 on: 15 May 2020, 01:17 am »
I'll have to put a sketch together I know our great room is 21x20 but where we sit the couch is atleast 4 ' away from the back wall