Router for edges of speakers

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WGH

Re: Router for edges of speakers
« Reply #20 on: 8 Apr 2022, 03:30 pm »
Ordered a DeWALT compact palm router PN: DWP611, and a 3/4 inch router roundover bit.

A few thoughts:

1.) The  DeWALT DWP611 has a 1/4" diameter collet, a router bit with a 1/2" shank will not fit.
2.) Palm routers are designed for laminate trimming and smaller bits, the 3/4" roundover bit diameter is 2", you probably will have to make a new base with a larger hole and it still won't fit without hitting metal.
3.) Spinning 2" of metal at 18,000 rpm is scarry, I would never try to use a bit that big one handed even with 40 years experience.
4.) With this setup you are on your way to become a member of the "Nub Club". All my professional woodworker friends are members, I'm not.

A Non-Slip Router Pad will keep the work from sliding.
https://www.amazon.com/POWERTEC-71014-Non-Slip-24-Inch-48-Inch/dp/B00NFB81ZC

This is like watching a horror movie where you are yelling at the clueless kids "Don't go into that house!"
They go in anyway.

A 3/8" roundover can be safely used one handed with this router all day long.

mlundy57

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Re: Router for edges of speakers
« Reply #21 on: 8 Apr 2022, 04:55 pm »
Listen to WGH!! Routers are versitle tools but can be extremely dangerous if used incorrectly or carelessly, whether intentional or not. For larger bits with a hand-held router I use a 2-1/4HP router with either a fixed or plunge base depending on the cut being made. I have three different ones, a Porter Cable, DeWalt, and Bosch. Any of these will work.

Proter Cable:  https://www.lowes.com/pd/PORTER-CABLE-Porter-Cable-2-25-HP-Variable-Speed-Combo-Fixed-Plunge-Corded-Router-with-Case/1000384785

DeWalt:  https://www.lowes.com/pd/DEWALT-2-25-HP-Variable-Speed-Combo-Fixed-Plunge-Corded-Router-with-Bag/50037128

Bosch:  https://www.lowes.com/pd/Bosch-12-2-25-HP-Variable-Speed-Combo-Fixed-Plunge-Corded-Router-with-Case/1014955

Though for full disclosure, I much prefer a 3HP router mounted in a router table. I find this superior for safety, cut quality, and dust collection. However, unless you are going to use it frequently, it is impractical from both cost and amount of floor space it takes up.

I.Greyhound Fan

Re: Router for edges of speakers
« Reply #22 on: 8 Apr 2022, 07:17 pm »
Listen to WGH!! Routers are versitle tools but can be extremely dangerous if used incorrectly or carelessly, whether intentional or not.


That is the truth.  I have seen too many fingers mangled by routers needing to be amputated during my career in Emergency Medicine.  I have a healthy respect for routers and power saws.

WGH

Re: Router for edges of speakers
« Reply #23 on: 8 Apr 2022, 08:06 pm »
I have seen too many fingers mangled...

Fingers take 2 trips to the emergency room:
Trip 1 - take the injured to the ER
Trip 2 - go back to the woodshop to find the finger, put it in a bag of ice and go back to the ER

Joiners are just as bad because they make fingers shorter.

Tip of the Day: Always unplug before changing bits or blades.

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Re: Router for edges of speakers
« Reply #24 on: 8 Apr 2022, 10:27 pm »
Very much appreciate the information.   

Did not realize that the router I picked was not for that purpose.

Perhaps this would be better: DeWALT Model#: DW618PK.

Really helpful to know all of this.

I need to figure out the best way to hold the wood down.  Seems like a router table would be best.

Perhaps I should just let someone else do this that know what they are doing.

The other think I was thinking about was just using a flush router trim bit instead;

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Whiteside Router Bits RFTD2100 1/4-Inch Cutting Diameter and Spiral Flush Trim Bit with Down Cut


mlundy57

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Re: Router for edges of speakers
« Reply #25 on: 8 Apr 2022, 10:39 pm »
Very much appreciate the information.   

Did not realize that the router I picked was not for that purpose.

Perhaps this would be better: DeWALT Model#: DW618PK.

Really helpful to know all of this.

I need to figure out the best way to hold the wood down.  Seems like a router table would be best.

Perhaps I should just let someone else do this that know what they are doing.

The other think I was thinking about was just using a flush router trim bit instead;

Whiteside Router Bits
Whiteside Router Bits RFTD2100 1/4-Inch Cutting Diameter and Spiral Flush Trim Bit with Down Cut

The non-slip router mat WGH mentioned is a good way to keep the cabinet steady during routing.

The router table I mentioned will cost around $1,500 for a good table with locking casters, 3HP router, and a good router lift. You can use the router table without a lift but it is a major PITA.

WGH

Re: Router for edges of speakers
« Reply #26 on: 8 Apr 2022, 11:34 pm »
Back in the early 1970's my work buddy Jack showed up with an early version of the Black and Decker portable workbench. At first it looked like a toy, we were real men and used real workbenches, but after we tried it out we used the heck out of that bench, it was really handy.

Black and Decker 425 - $90 at Amazon, $132 at Home Depot
The 425 has a bigger top with wide legs, that's what I would get.

YouTube review of 2 portable workbenches: Black and Decker 425 vs Worx. I don't like the plastic top, I would rather cut into wood when something slips.
This guy has made over 50 videos about how to get the most out of your Workmate.
https://youtu.be/J-e9FpFuz14



Put the non-slip router pad on top and attack those corners

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Re: Router for edges of speakers
« Reply #27 on: 9 Apr 2022, 01:31 am »
Back in the early 1970's my work buddy Jack showed up with an early version of the Black and Decker portable workbench. At first it looked like a toy, we were real men and used real workbenches, but after we tried it out we used the heck out of that bench, it was really handy.

Black and Decker 425 - $90 at Amazon, $132 at Home Depot
The 425 has a bigger top with wide legs, that's what I would get.

YouTube review of 2 portable workbenches: Black and Decker 425 vs Worx. I don't like the plastic top, I would rather cut into wood when something slips.
This guy has made over 50 videos about how to get the most out of your Workmate.
https://youtu.be/J-e9FpFuz14



Put the non-slip router pad on top and attack those corners

Great workbench. Mine is over 20 years old and needs me put a new top on it.  When folded it takes up very little space. For a portable, versatile, temporary work surface this is a no-brainer.

HT1278

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Re: Router for edges of speakers
« Reply #28 on: 9 Apr 2022, 01:51 am »
Really like it!!

JWCoffman

Re: Router for edges of speakers
« Reply #29 on: 9 Apr 2022, 01:40 pm »
Sounds like you're getting some great advice here from some real pros.  A few thoughts from my decidedly less experienced view:
- There are some cheap portable router table alternatives that can be bought for $100-$150, but you still need a separate full-sized router to mount on the underside (the DeWalt will work for that) and they should be bolted or clamped down to a workbench.  They aren't the greatest in terms of speed, accuracy, and ease of use, but still safer for smaller items like these speakers.  I have one I use a couple times a year and it's been worth it.  If I used it more often I would be spending the big bucks for a more "pro" solution like Mike Lundy mentioned.
- Direction matters.  Moving the router with the direction of the bit rotation (called a climb cut) is much more likely to result in losing control of the router since it will want to run away from you.  Moving against the rotation (standard cut) gives you far more control.  There are some cases where a climb cut makes sense (like to prevent chip-out on solid wood), but not on MDF.  The baseplate of the router should show the direction of rotation to help you know which way to go.
- A 3/4" roundover is going to take off a LOT of material.  You might consider taking that in two passes.  The first pass would be a shallower cut (perhaps 1/2" deep), then a full depth cut.  You will have to deal with much less torque that way (especially if doing a climb cut) and it will be less likely to overwhelm your dust collection.
- On that last note, use dust collection, even something as simple as the dust collection attachment (which the DeWalt has) connected to a shop vac goes a long way.  Also, wear a mask, goggles, and ear protection.  You want to be able to see and hear these speakers when you are done.


Finally, please don't let folks like us deter you from doing this.  I feel like once you get the router in hand and try a few test cuts you will start to get a good feel for it as long as you follow some basic safety precautions (secure the workpiece with a clamp or mat, both hands on the router,etc).  My routers have proved far more useful for multiple projects than I originally thought.  A quality router like the DeWalt will give you a lifetime of use, or you could turn around and sell it on Craigslist to get some of your money back if you know you will never use it again.
Good luck!!!

HT1278

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Re: Router for edges of speakers
« Reply #30 on: 9 Apr 2022, 04:31 pm »
I appreciate that, I was considering just not getting a router, but I would like to try to use the router.

I am going to start with just 1/4 flush trim bit, and I am not going to use the 3/4 round over, instead I might just use a 3/8 round over or something like that.

Something I got thinking about was obviously (but it was not a few days ago, lol). I don't want to take off so much material I would loose or weaken the glued edge because the round over took off too much wood.   So I would rather just slightly round the corners.   Maybe I am overthinking this.   

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Re: Router for edges of speakers
« Reply #31 on: 9 Apr 2022, 04:45 pm »
A HUGE  :thumb: :thumb: to WGH and mlundy57 for their input in this thread!

I'm learning from your comments. Thank you!

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Re: Router for edges of speakers
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Re: Router for edges of speakers
« Reply #33 on: 9 Apr 2022, 06:48 pm »
Instead of all of those clamps, these actual cabinet clamps look a lot better!  Just more expensive.  The Bessey UniKlamp is less expensive than the Bess



ey K-Body Clamps. 

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Re: Router for edges of speakers
« Reply #34 on: 9 Apr 2022, 06:52 pm »