RMAF 2012

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aaron.luebke

Re: RMAF 2012
« Reply #20 on: 24 Oct 2012, 10:47 pm »
I'd like to jump on the sound treatment bandwagon here as a couple folks have mentioned how much improved things are once you've put them in.

I've been a Odyssey user for about 5 years or so.  My room is not optimal, for some reason my family seems to feel they can live here also!  I've moved my speakers 50 times - an inch over here - back a bit - right a bit, toed in, toed out...it never seemed to work.  I put in sound treatments this year and I am done moving speakers!

I put a couple of bass traps in the corners and a couple of 4'x2'x4" panels on the wall behind my MMG's.  I am going through my music collection again and each piece sounds new.  The room is not perfect but it has improved 80% or more.

If you are looking for that last tweek don't hesitate - put in the treatments!

Fantastic job on the show Klaus!  Congratulations!!  :thumb:

jimdgoulding

Re: RMAF 2012
« Reply #21 on: 24 Oct 2012, 11:22 pm »
Klaus, I have The Moon is a Harsh Mistress on vinyl for years.  Diamonds and Rust is a fav Baez album for me for a long time.  Cheers.

klaus@odyssey

Re: RMAF 2012
« Reply #22 on: 25 Oct 2012, 01:45 am »
Hey Guys,

Thanks,  yup, and absolutely !!! And there will be more raves rolling in soon,  hehehehe........



I'd like to post a couple more pics from the show room, from us,  and yes,  shamelessly from my babies in the van.
As for Irina,  guys,  keep in mind that it is she who  hand populates, hand solders, and qc's

 every single amplifier board.

Late,
Klaus






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Re: RMAF 2012
« Reply #23 on: 25 Oct 2012, 02:01 am »
Another plug for GIK if you don't mind. I've owned a Khartago for many years (still the biggest bargain in quality audio!) plus a variety of excellent products from Red Wine Audio and other AC regulars. My "man cave" (I hate that term) is an impossible spare bedroom 10' x 10' square! GIK made it quite listenable. With some kindly advice from Glenn I but 244's across the back corners, another 244 directly behind my chair which is up against the back wall, and a pair of 242's at the left/right first reflection points. Bingo! A lousy room became a very nice place to hear music.

Eduardo AAVM

Re: RMAF 2012
« Reply #24 on: 25 Oct 2012, 03:31 am »
Hey ! Your dogs are very cute !

And as for your business, Who says you do not have a multinational company ? I respect your business Klaus, you know it, I wish you all get even more success.

jimdgoulding

Re: RMAF 2012
« Reply #25 on: 25 Oct 2012, 07:04 am »
Adorable pets, my man. 

loki1957

Re: RMAF 2012
« Reply #26 on: 25 Oct 2012, 05:02 pm »
Whose rack and amp stand are those and what is the cost?

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Re: RMAF 2012
« Reply #27 on: 25 Oct 2012, 05:11 pm »
The rack and stands are new items from Odyssey. We sold at least 2 of them that I know of during RMAF.  Very sturdy and gorgeous to look at with a variety of wood options as well as different anodized colors for the standards.

Bryan

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Re: RMAF 2012
« Reply #28 on: 26 Oct 2012, 05:36 am »
Klaus, I have The Moon is a Harsh Mistress on vinyl for years.  Diamonds and Rust is a fav Baez album for me for a long time.  Cheers.


Jim,  do you want to sell the record ????

jimdgoulding

Re: RMAF 2012
« Reply #29 on: 26 Oct 2012, 04:36 pm »

Jim,  do you want to sell the record ????
I don't know, Klaus.  It's in mint condition.  Prolly worth a quite a lot to the right person.  I guess I would entertain an offer.

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Re: RMAF 2012
« Reply #30 on: 26 Oct 2012, 05:25 pm »
The rack and stands are new items from Odyssey. We sold at least 2 of them that I know of during RMAF.  Very sturdy and gorgeous to look at with a variety of wood options as well as different anodized colors for the standards.

Bryan

    Do you have a price list?

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Re: RMAF 2012
« Reply #31 on: 26 Oct 2012, 06:14 pm »
I don't - sorry. This is a product that Odyssey is making, not us. I was just answering whose it was.  I'm sure Klaus would be happy to answer any questions about the pricing.

Bryan

drummermitchell

Re: RMAF 2012
« Reply #32 on: 26 Oct 2012, 06:50 pm »
So Bryan,what's going on with the new FRL(experimental) bass traps.
Anymore info coming out on them,THX.

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« Reply #33 on: 26 Oct 2012, 07:10 pm »
The wall panels are available.  Just not on the site yet as we're revamping it.

The corner ones we're still working on. Corner absorbers are always harder since labs really don't have a good way to accurately test it.  Standard procedures do not apply.  Add in now that we're doing tuned and wanting to test down to 40Hz when labs are only certified down to 100 (and that's any lab) and we have to watch our own findings coupled with theirs to get a good feel for what's really happening and how they're going to function in different situations.

Bryan

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Re: RMAF 2012
« Reply #34 on: 26 Oct 2012, 10:42 pm »
This was my first RMAF and one of my favorite rooms was the room of Alex & Klaus. My main purpose for the show was the search for the perfect preamp (for me).  The Candela was near the top of my list and after listening to it and talking to Klaus & Alex I knew I found the one.  The big problem I got into was expanding my budget for a power amp. I went back and forth between the W4S room and the Odyssey room. After several lengthy discussions with Alex & Klaus, I was sold on the Odyssey. 

I want to thank Klaus & Alex for the helpful & open conversations. (Thanks to Brandon too). 

I'm in the process of ordering my Candela & Khartago to make my Salk HT2-TL's sing.  Can't wait!

David

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« Reply #35 on: 28 Oct 2012, 07:10 pm »
Hi Guys,

Finally back home...somewhat rested..........slept 15 hours...........11 days, 5 at the show non-stop,  2 system installs on the way back,  3200 miles,  aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh.

Thanks a mill to all of you for making this RMAF show truly great.  This has been my 70th show,  and it was one of the best,  performance, business, and fun-wise.  You know who you guys are,  a big, big thanks from me and Irina.

As to the show,  here are some of my thoughts.

- GIK's are very good,  no surprise.  For once, I didn't have to fight the room,  and actually,  achieved somewhere in the neighborhood of 90 % of what I have at home,  in my show room.

- Melting away,  awash with emotions,  goose bumps all over,  true realism.  Thanks for the vine,  but man,  I'm preaching this forever. 

- The Kismet reference monitors,  yup,  they are awesome in every respect,  (Beryllium, baby) but speakers always get the lion share of attention.  just look at all of the threads here.  Let's not forget the rest of the system,  including big kudos to Alex for designing the Suspiro phono stage. man oh man,  it is good.

- And yes,  it was a Stratos stereo plus SE running(ALBEIT SOME MODS TO BE COMPLETELY HONEST) in order to bring the system cost below 6 K. 

- Attendance was definitely down big time this year,  which was a good thing.  We set up the room as a non-compromise high ender,  meaning there was really only 1 chair for the ultimate sweet spot.  Some serious attention has been paid to this spot, having Bryan come in and set up the GIK's,  clearing my head, and  working for 3 hours straight until 4 am to get the absolute best interaction with the room.  Funny, how your mind always seem to play tricks,  but somehow,  it was obvious when it was "there".  Very obvious, because it was so wide, deep, precise, and natural,  AWESOME !!!!!!  GIK, baby.  Anyway,  we seemed to have a lot more serious listeners who were able to listen for longer periods of time without feeling bad that they took away chair time from others.  That's what I would have wanted as a show goer.

-  During the show,  I promised to behave myself,  and guess what ???  I did.  It helped that I left most of my crazy stuff at home.  So,  it was fantastic when Jonathon, Standub and others brought their heavy music to rock out on. 

- The best moments for me at a show is when a listener brings his own music.  I usually put in the disc,  and hand over the remote and tell him/her to go nuts.  For one,  and for whatever reason (actually,  we all know why) other exhibitors don't do this at all.  But what is the point then when you can't hear your own music to evaluate system x y z ???
In addition,  this is a great way to hear new tunes.

- Same goes with the lighting.  If there is a truly dedicated listening group who want to stay for a while,  I tend to turn off the lights for several reasons.  Obviously,  it sounds better in subjective terms,  but also,  it discourages people to just come in and walk around or talk, etc.  Everything seems to be more serious, and yet, more relaxing at the same time.  It's a bit tricky,  and I'm doing this at shows for over 20 years,  but when it works, it works great. 

- This brings me to our music.  We don't have any "audiophile" music, even though this is misleading since our tunes from regular over the shelf records sound fantastic.  What is "audiophile" anyway ???  Many of you asked us about our play lists.  Well,  there are many, of course,  but the main show pieces on disc were:

Stevie Ray,  Tin Pan Alley
Pink Floyd,  The Wall
Lou Reed,  Walk on the wild side
Radka Tonnef,  The moon is a harsh mistress
Anna Lotte Larsen,  The Rose
Shostakovich Symphony # 9,  Inbal / Vienna
Rawhide, Kunzel / Cincy Pops

As for LP's:
Alan Parsons,  The Raven
Joan Baez,  Diamonds and Rust
Pink Panther Soundtrack
Supertramp / School
John Hiatt, Have a little faith in me
Cracker,  I can't forget you

AND OF COURSE MILES,  Time after time live


  It was nice to catch up with many of you AC'ers.  And as for Tyson and Jason, same goes as last year.  A great job,  great ears, great sense of what systems actually do,  great writing,  and yup,  you are completely, wonderfully  looney for doing this the way you do it.
Finally, in retrospective,  it is fantastic to have a wife that not only supports my crazy job, life style, and hours,  but who is always game to just "go".  And a big shout-out to our 2 dogs, Precious the Pom-a-poo,  and Powder, the Samoyed-Border mix.  They are incredible travel companions, who make my trips so much more fun.  Oh yeah, the black hills and Badlands are badass.


Late,

Klaus

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gary

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Re: RMAF 2012
« Reply #36 on: 28 Oct 2012, 07:14 pm »
Hey Guys,

Thanks,  yup, and absolutely !!! And there will be more raves rolling in soon,  hehehehe........



I'd like to post a couple more pics from the show room, from us,  and yes,  shamelessly from my babies in the van.
As for Irina,  guys,  keep in mind that it is she who  hand populates, hand solders, and qc's

 every single amplifier board.

Late,
Klaus







well she's a lot better looking than you are!!! Have you been on a diet? My doctor is trying to kill me right now, as he has me on a diet and even goes so far as to call in the middle of the day to check my blood pressure (135/75). Dumped almost fifty pounds, and he says he wants more!

LP stash is now listed as out of controll! But have came into some really nice stuff over the last six months
gary

david12

Re: RMAF 2012
« Reply #37 on: 29 Oct 2012, 11:50 am »
 The Kismet speakers seem to have a lot of very positive feedback. Is there any more info about them, sensitivity and impedence, single/biwired, perhaps a floorstander in the range?

 I live in the UK, coming to the US is out, but I see you have a Dutch dealer. Is there any chance he may stock the Kismet range of speakers? Travelling to Holland is do able, even better if a UK distributor was in the offing, or perhaps bringing them to a UK show. At the performance and price indicated, they should do well. Thanks David

aaron.luebke

Re: RMAF 2012
« Reply #38 on: 29 Oct 2012, 11:51 am »
This was my first RMAF and one of my favorite rooms was the room of Alex & Klaus. My main purpose for the show was the search for the perfect preamp (for me).  The Candela was near the top of my list and after listening to it and talking to Klaus & Alex I knew I found the one.  The big problem I got into was expanding my budget for a power amp. I went back and forth between the W4S room and the Odyssey room. After several lengthy discussions with Alex & Klaus, I was sold on the Odyssey. 

I want to thank Klaus & Alex for the helpful & open conversations. (Thanks to Brandon too). 

I'm in the process of ordering my Candela & Khartago to make my Salk HT2-TL's sing.  Can't wait!

David


You can't go wrong with that combination.  If you haven't been on a tube quest in the past the fun part will be finding the perfect set of tubes for the Candela! 

Nuance

Re: RMAF 2012
« Reply #39 on: 30 Oct 2012, 12:38 pm »
Your room sounded great, guys.  Congrats and keep up the good work!