The VMPS Patent, Parts I, II, III, IV

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skrivis

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Re: series
« Reply #220 on: 3 Nov 2005, 02:29 pm »
Quote from: BrunoB
According to John Kreskovsky,  first order series crossovers with a zeta of 0.5 are quasi second order filters:
http://www.geocities.com/kreskovs/Series-1.html

Are the VMPS speakers with a series crossover really QSO ("quasi second order")?

I am asking this question because I  made a computer simulation of the crossover (woofer to mid panel) using the capacitance and inductance found in my single wire   QSO 626R.   I have found that the calculated  zeta is 1.35 using the formula zeta = sq ...


Over the years I've spoken to a number of people about series x-overs, and John Kreskovsky's info jibes with what I've heard in the past.

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Re: patent
« Reply #221 on: 3 Nov 2005, 05:48 pm »
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"Sawtooth" Chris Regan, my patent attorney, has advised me to release no more technical details about the invention until the patent is granted in about 18 months.


Sorry for the delay in my comments, just now reading the thread...

The patent application may publish[/i] in 18 months (if so desired), but it typically takes 3 years (or longer) to actually issue[/i].

ctviggen

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The VMPS Patent, Part the Last
« Reply #222 on: 3 Nov 2005, 06:10 pm »
It depends on the area among other variables.  I've had patents issue in less than 6 months and some that have not been reviewed at all after several years.  The electrical arts (my particular field) have tons of patents being filed and they take a long time to get reviewed.

BrunoB

Re: filters
« Reply #223 on: 20 Apr 2006, 04:59 pm »
Quote from: Brian Cheney


Off axis problems have been solved by the new technology.  I am reconfiguring my measurement bed for wider range use and the results should be up shortly. You will see improvements in linearity from the "new tech" as well.


Will we see CD measurements on the VMPS web site?

Bruno

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The VMPS Patent, Part the Last
« Reply #224 on: 24 Apr 2006, 06:51 pm »
Bruno
You dear sweet naive man..... :lol:

I have established the only authorized VMPS pool for the date the specs appear.  You can take either odd or even days, $100 per bet, or you can go as low as $1 per square for the actual calendar date the specs appear.  All profits go to the tax-exempt 503 charity approved by the pool betters, but the charity must foward at least 31% of their revenues toward the actual charitable work (thus excluding the Shriners).  

To all VMPS fans: You are hereby deputized by CDD (Chief Deputy Dawg, or me), to relentlessly & unceasingly press & pester Brian to allow me to evacuate John Curl's belongings in the office at the Plant to the local dump yard, thereby making the space available to build a great little anechoic chamber to perform the tests to publish the specs for which we all crave.  The work will be performed for free, to further the cause of all VMPS fans reading this.  You guys better get me on this job quick before I move to Utah.

BrunoB

The VMPS Patent, Part the Last
« Reply #225 on: 25 Apr 2006, 07:24 am »
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Bruno
You dear sweet naive man..... :lol:

I have established the only authorized VMPS pool for the date the specs appear.  You can take either odd or even days, $100 per bet, or you can go as low as $1 per square for the actual calendar date the specs appear.  All profits go to the tax-exempt 503 charity approved by the pool betters, but the charity must foward at least 31% of their revenues toward the actual charitable work (thus excluding the Shriners).  

To all VMPS fans: You are hereby deputized ...


My dear VMPS dealer,

you sold me a pair of  626 as a kit a few years ago ...  and and it is all your fault if I started to mod them and if now I crave about measurements ...


Bruno


John Casler

Re: The VMPS Patent, Parts I, II, III, IV
« Reply #227 on: 11 Jun 2007, 06:55 pm »
 :rotflmao: :beer: :guitar: :drums: :violin: :thankyou: :hyper:


Wow, that was fast (or at least it seemed so compared to my patents)


:banana piano: :banana piano: :banana piano:

ctviggen

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Re: The VMPS Patent, Parts I, II, III, IV
« Reply #228 on: 11 Jun 2007, 07:18 pm »
Oops!  I meant the patent application has published.  I'm trying to get the status in Public PAIR, but the PAIR page is not responding.


John Casler

Re: The VMPS Patent, Parts I, II, III, IV
« Reply #230 on: 28 Nov 2007, 05:29 pm »
Having received the go-ahead from "Sawtooth" Chris Regan, my patent attorney, I invite you to join me on a lengthy description and account of the US patent filed 10/13/05, with yours truly inventor and applicant, originally entitled:
"Planar Loudspeaker with Constant Directivity Full Range"

                         Background of the Invention:
It's Jan 10, 2002.  James Bongiorno and I sit at his favorite Italian restaurant in LV basking in the glow of the RM 40's winning the "Best of CES for High End Audio".  He doodles on a cocktail napkin and reveals the rough shape of a speaker enclosure. "Build this", he rasps, "and you will win again!"  The cabinet is that which I will spend the next year turning into the RM/X speaker system, and James is proven a true prophet in 2003 as the VMPS Alexis Park booth takes the big prize a second time.

Course you know this story since I've only told it a dozen times here and everywhere on line.

Matters did not conclude that evening with but a single napkin, there followed another.

This sketch was of a tall, narrow curved baffle covered with interlocking triangular planar mid/tweeters, placed apex to base.  There was also a unique arrangement of small woofers which would produce a hemispherical launch pattern for the bass.  "Build this", James intoned," and you will win again in 2004."  

Well again as you already know, that didn't happen.  After the second win the Tech TV judge told me in confidence we would never threepeat regardless of what I came up with.  Our 2004 entrant, the RM 30, finished 8th in the competition that year.

Still, the idea of a triangular planar driver intrigued me and would not leave my mind.  I went looking for a manufacturer and a partner.  In June 2003 we pitched Mark Shifter on the idea of Constant Directivity in loudspeakers generally and the trianular planar magnetic panel in
particular, and while Mark was most enthusiastic, further meetings did not lead to the hoped-for collaboration.  John Casler reported extensively on the initial contact on this very board.  The curious can search the archives from the summer of 2003 and find the threads.

The triangle is a great shape for a driver (and a cabinet for that matter, but for different reasons) because it narrows to zero width.  If it is made slender and long enough it will maintain excellent directivity with frequency over the range it covers--I was hoping for 300Hz to 20 kHz.  
It would have to be a few inches wide at the base so that the panel could start at that width.  It is the nature of planar panels that their excursion is essentially zero at the edges and maximum in the center of the diaphragm
much like a plucked bowstring.  There isn't any pistonic motion so paradigms that strive in that direction don't work with planars.  

As it turns out, the ideal shape for a planar from the standpoint of linearity
(flat amplitude response) is a large square, say 10x10", which is great for low distortion and LF extension but terrible for directivity.  I would not arrive at constant directivity with a driver which became rough and beamy at 900Hz.

Other shapes than the triangle would approximate the requirements for CD (I'll use this abbreviation for Constant Directivity henceforth, since it's the industry standard).  A diamond, particularly a double diamond, would do well; back to back double-D's (like the Dolby logo) and other wasp-waisted forms which begin wide and narrow to about 2/3" get the job done too.

I found a prototyper and made sample panels of various shapes and configurations.  Things did not go well.  It turns out asymmetrical traces on a rectangular diaphragm do not produce smooth FR or low distortion, and I was getting tons of both problems.  6% THD was typical, and linearity was poor below 2 kHz.  The undriven portions of the diaphragm undulated and flapped antiphase to the driven part where the triangularly shaped traces were etched into into the film (I used PEN).  It would do no good to have evenly dispersed sound no one would want to listen due because of roughness and high THD.

Over two years had gone by and I had nothing to show for them except rejects.  

(end of Part the First.  In Part Deux, I commit Ritual Harikiri in atonement for my failings).