It was in fact 1999 when I heard both 801's and 805's. Not only were the 801's priced beyond my budget, they were way too big for my listening space. The 805's(with a sub) sounded very close to the 801's. As I am a "bang for the buck" kinda guy, I kept reading about speakers on forums after hearing the B&W's-Youtube was still six years into the future. Madisound kept coming up(GR-Research wasn't around yet either) on these forums in my pursuit of better sound at a respectable price to performance ratio. I landed on the Dynaudio Gemini's from Madisound and was/am happy with them for the last 25 years. They weren't cheap, but you get what you pay for. Having had a pair of Vandersteen 2c's since 1988 and comparing them to the Gemini's, the Gemini's (imo) had a much more pleasing sound compared to the Vandee's. Today the Gemini's are in a breakfast nook (turned listening/lounging space) and powered by a Fosey amp with a Wiim streamer and an SVS Micro 3000 sub. The NX-Studios are in my main system and sound much more polished, rich and complete than the Gemini's. I sold the 2c's because we got a kitten and to him those Vandee's were giant scratching posts. I still wax nostalgic about both the Vandee's and the 805's and even the 801's. If I had the storage space, I'd get a pair of all of them just to play around with. Thanks for your reply. Have a Merry Christmas.