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Industry Circles => Bryston Limited => Topic started by: James Tanner on 8 Feb 2011, 05:15 pm
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Hi Folks - a place to ask and answer more technical and operational based questions on the BDP-1 Digital Player
james
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Hi
Ok since i just ordered a bdp1 I am really curious if there is any difference in sound between the bdp1 and bda in xlr? I am asking for differences due to length in xlr.
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Hi
Ok since i just ordered a bdp1 I am really curious if there is any difference in sound between the bdp1 and bda in xlr? I am asking for differences due to length in xlr.
Well we all know 'length matters' :)
james
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What about width? Does width matter? :)
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What about width? Does width matter? :)
:thumb: Gary, you know how they say, small, but smells good :)
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Great idea for a thread, doesn't seem to have started off to seriously at the moment though :D
I've got a quick technical question regarding the AES-EBU connection.
I've just ordered the Chord AES-EBU cable but want to compare it directly to my current S/Pdif cable to see if it offers any improvements, questions :-
Is it OK to leave both connected at the same time?
Does the BDP output at both terminals at the same time?
Will having both connected affect sound quality in anyway?
Cheers.
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Great idea for a thread, doesn't seem to have started off to seriously at the moment though :D
I've got a quick technical question regarding the AES-EBU connection.
I've just ordered the Chord AES-EBU cable but want to compare it directly to my current S/Pdif cable to see if it offers any improvements, questions :-
Is it OK to leave both connected at the same time?
Does the BDP output at both terminals at the same time?
Will having both connected affect sound quality in anyway?
Cheers.
Thats how i had my bdp connected when i had it on loan and i plan on doing it again. I just toggled back and forth to the one i like best.
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Great idea for a thread, doesn't seem to have started off to seriously at the moment though :D
I've got a quick technical question regarding the AES-EBU connection.
I've just ordered the Chord AES-EBU cable but want to compare it directly to my current S/Pdif cable to see if it offers any improvements, questions :-
Is it OK to leave both connected at the same time?
Does the BDP output at both terminals at the same time?
Will having both connected affect sound quality in anyway?
Cheers.
Hi Vipers,
No problem with both connected at the same time.
james
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What is the current released software version?
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What is the current released software version?
Dec 28th 2010
james
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Dec 28th 2010
james
Please let me know where I get this latest software version......I have Nov. 14th 2010.
Thanks
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Please let me know where I get this latest software version......I have Nov. 14th 2010.
Thanks
Email me at jamestanner@bryston.com with the serial number and where purchased.
james
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I sent e-mail request for upgrade.
What improvements are there with the new version?
Improved waiting times?
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I sent e-mail request for upgrade.
What improvements are there with the new version?
Improved waiting times?
No real changes we just try to improve the built in software load times (not USB load times) when booting up and get rid of code we do not feel we need and try to make it more stable.
james
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Hi James
Question regarding BDA-1;
Could all the RCA connectors be substituted with BNC connectors ?
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Hi James
Question regarding BDA-1;
Could all the RCA connectors be substituted with BNC connectors ?
Yes but we would have to make it custom.
james
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I'll throw in a couple of things I've learned from James, others on the forum or through trial and error.
Hard Drive File types:
FAT32 - this is an old format that doesn't work well on larger drives but most thumb drives still come formatted using it. For now it is the only format that allows you to copy files from a PC or NAS over your network to a drive while it is connected to the BDP.
NTFS - most HDs come in this format. It works great with the BDP but you have to disconnect your HD and connect it to a PC to add music. For now you do not have the ability to copy files to a drive formatted in NTFS while it is connected to the BDP.
exFAT - a newer version of FAT32. It doesn't work with the BDP. No big loss. No one is using it anyway.
I have a larger NTFS HD preloaded with most of my library and a FAT32 thumb drive attached to my BDP. The NTFS HD remains pretty static. When I get new music I rip or copy it to a NAS and then to the thumb drive. Obviously I will move music from the thumb to the HD. This seems like a pretty good way to feed the BDP-1.
Jim
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The USB formating is interesting, I have just bought two pendrives a 128GB and 64GB to start putting my music on and under Windows 7 you only have the options of NTFS and exFAT. I would really like the option to push and pull files from the drive. James will exFAT become supported or the ability to push to NTFS?
Has anyone experimented with using a utility to force FAT32 onto a larger drive?
Cheers
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"exFAT is a proprietary, patent-pending file system suited especially for USB flash drives, introduced by Microsoft"
"Microsoft has not released the official exFAT file specification, and a license from Microsoft is required in order to make and distribute exFAT implementations"
Anyone here thinks that it makes sense to pay a license in order to use a format with no official specification?
Nap.
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If I use my iPod touch to control the BDP-1 through the interface, will it do all the same functions as the Bryston remote will? If so, great, if not, what will both the Touch and Bryston remote be able to control?
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The USB formating is interesting, I have just bought two pendrives a 128GB and 64GB to start putting my music on and under Windows 7 you only have the options of NTFS and exFAT. I would really like the option to push and pull files from the drive. James will exFAT become supported or the ability to push to NTFS?
Has anyone experimented with using a utility to force FAT32 onto a larger drive?
Cheers
Hi Alpha10
There are utility programs that can format Fat32 -I use one called HPUSBDISK
james
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"exFAT is a proprietary, patent-pending file system suited especially for USB flash drives, introduced by Microsoft"
"Microsoft has not released the official exFAT file specification, and a license from Microsoft is required in order to make and distribute exFAT implementations"
Anyone here thinks that it makes sense to pay a license in order to use a format with no official specification?
Nap.
NO, Microsoft are a PITA....
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Hi Alpha10
There are utility programs that can format Fat32 -I use one called HPUSBDISK
james
Cheers, I'll give it a go, you found no problems with bigger drives and the BDP-1?
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If I use my iPod touch to control the BDP-1 through the interface, will it do all the same functions as the Bryston remote will? If so, great, if not, what will both the Touch and Bryston remote be able to control?
The Bryston BR-2 remote is very basic - it will just do Next and Previous, Stop, Play and Pause , Volume on the Bryston preamps.
james
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Cheers, I'll give it a go, you found no problems with bigger drives and the BDP-1?
Works great - I have used up to 320G USB drives. Reformatting also gets ride of all the programs loaded on the USB that are not required.
james
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Hi Vipers,
No problem with both connected at the same time.
james
Thanks for the replies James and Werd, I'll give some feedback once I've had a chance to do some back to back tests with the AES-EBU against the S/Pdif.
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The Bryston BR-2 remote is very basic - it will just do Next and Previous, Stop, Play and Pause , Volume on the Bryston preamps.
james
It does phase too.... And if i remember you can switch out inputs on the bda. :scratch:
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Email me at jamestanner@bryston.com with the serial number and where purchased.
james
Thanks for the latest BDP-1 update software. Installation all worked flawlessly as expected from Bryston. :thumb: Not like my past experiences with Logitech Squeezebox Server updates!!!
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It does phase too.... And if i remember you can switch out inputs on the bda. :scratch:
Correct assuming you have a Bryston preamp and BDA-1 DAC.
james
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James,
I have updated the software as you sent emailed, however I now cant see all my music, how do I now scroll down via the MAX software.
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James,
I have updated the software as you sent emailed, however I now cant see all my music, how do I now scroll down via the MAX software.
Are you using an iPad?
james
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Hi Folks,
Different browsers (Firefox, Chome, Safari, Explorer) react differently to the MINI and MAX interfaces. Even different versions of the same browser can respond differently. We test with the latest versions of the browsers so if your using the Bryston Mini or Max interface please use the latest versions of your browser if possible.
We do not recommend Explorer. We highly recommend Firefox as it works well with the Mini and Max as well as a terrific add on music player called MINION.
Also if you're using a PC check out 'GNOME MUSIC PLAYER CLIENT' - it does not even need a browser to communicate with the BDP-1
james
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I just got another iPod Touch to control the BDP-1 but I can't remember how I get the BDP-1 app onto the iPod Touch. Can anyone help me on this please?
Thanks
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I just got another iPod Touch to control the BDP-1 but I can't remember how I get the BDP-1 app onto the iPod Touch. Can anyone help me on this please?
Thanks
Go to the itune store (you need an account). Visit the app centre and type in mpod for general search. Mpod is free and you need to sync it onto your ipod. So plug the ipod touch into your computer.....
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I just got another iPod Touch to control the BDP-1 but I can't remember how I get the BDP-1 app onto the iPod Touch. Can anyone help me on this please?
Thanks
To control your BDP with your iPod both must be connected to your network. Assuming you have already connected your iPod I'm pretty sure (not positive) that you can log on to the App Store directly. If you can, search for MPOD. Install it and the rest is fairly easy. If you have problems Google MPOD and you'll find a forum where you can get help.
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Hi Folks,
Different browsers (Firefox, Chome, Safari, Explorer) react differently to the MINI and MAX interfaces. Even different versions of the same browser can respond differently. We test with the latest versions of the browsers so if your using the Bryston Mini or Max interface please use the latest versions of your browser if possible.
We do not recommend Explorer. We highly recommend Firefox as it works well with the Mini and Max as well as a terrific add on music player called MINION.
Also if you're using a PC check out 'GNOME MUSIC PLAYER CLIENT' - it does not even need a browser to communicate with the BDP-1
james
James,
I have downloaded firefox and eventually got it too work....
Tks,
Rich..
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James,
I have downloaded firefox and eventually got it too work....
Tks,
Rich..
Hi Rich,
Great - i sent you a few emails so please ignore them.
james
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James,
I have downloaded firefox and eventually got it too work....
Tks,
Rich..
Just to qualify and relate my above posts back to the subject matter, I can confirm that using the Bryston Software is considerably better using Firefox over Explorer. The reason being that Explorer does not provide the user with the full functionality of the BDP. In particular the "Network Config" & "Change Theme" within the settings screen.
So to sum up, I am now using the BDP via Firefox with Minion & Gnome Music Player with great success than previously, therefore, dont waste your time with Explorer. I cannot comment on using a Apple device with the BDP as I am yet to own one.
Thanks to James for his assistance - I just need the Hex & Pronto codes now and I will be a V. Happy repeat customer!!!!
When is the SP3 going to be released ??
Regards,
Richard.
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This may be a dumb question... but here goes. I'm considering a new laptop, which, of course, will be used to load up the external drive to feed the BDP.
It seems like NTFS is the preferred format option. Will a Mac support writing to an NTFS drive? And will Mac support the BDP control options available?
Any other considerations re the BDP that would sway the Mac vs PC decision?
Thanks!
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Perhaps this thread is a good candidate to be “thumb tacked.” If individuals do not make any posts for a week or so, it could easily become buried and harder to locate.
Be well…
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This may be a dumb question... but here goes. I'm considering a new laptop, which, of course, will be used to load up the external drive to feed the BDP.
It seems like NTFS is the preferred format option. Will a Mac support writing to an NTFS drive? And will Mac support the BDP control options available?
Any other considerations re the BDP that would sway the Mac vs PC decision?
Thanks!
Hi - you can not plug the Mac (or any computer) into the BDP-1 - they are both hosts - if I am understanding your question?
The best format is FAT32 if you want to transfer files to the attached USB drives on the BDP-1- the drive format on the sending computer does not matter. If your not transfering files then FAT32 or NTSF works fine.
I have a Mac Pro laptop and I can transfer files to the attached USB drives on the BDP-1 as long as those drives are formatted Fat32. You can use the Mini or the Max interface or any of the web browser interfaces as you can on tha PC as well.
james
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Thanks James,
Wasn't speaking of plugging Mac into the BDP...but you answered my question about format type. Aren't there some file size restrictions to FAT32? If so, I presume they don't hamper even 24/192 size files? And if I understand, the bonus to FAT32 is the ability to transfer files over the network to the drive while its still attached to the BDP? The BDP will then quickly discover the additional files rather than having to re-discover all files if the drive is removed.
Am I getting it?
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Go to the itune store (you need an account). Visit the app centre and type in mpod for general search. Mpod is free and you need to sync it onto your ipod. So plug the ipod touch into your computer.....
Up and running now.....thanks for your help! :thumb:
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Thanks James,
Wasn't speaking of plugging Mac into the BDP...but you answered my question about format type. Aren't there some file size restrictions to FAT32? If so, I presume they don't hamper even 24/192 size files? And if I understand, the bonus to FAT32 is the ability to transfer files over the network to the drive while its still attached to the BDP? The BDP will then quickly discover the additional files rather than having to re-discover all files if the drive is removed.
Am I getting it?
Correct :thumb:
FAT32 is good for any 'single' file up to 4G I believe which is well within the window we need for high res music files.
james
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To control your BDP with your iPod both must be connected to your network. Assuming you have already connected your iPod I'm pretty sure (not positive) that you can log on to the App Store directly. If you can, search for MPOD. Install it and the rest is fairly easy. If you have problems Google MPOD and you'll find a forum where you can get help.
Up and running now.....thanks for your help! :thumb:
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The Bryston BR-2 remote is very basic - it will just do Next and Previous, Stop, Play and Pause , Volume on the Bryston preamps.
james
Couldn't the ipod touch do the same functions once connected to the interface?
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Couldn't the ipod touch do the same functions once connected to the interface?
You can't adjust the volume but it does everthing else including queing playlists. I didnt use it like that though, my fingers are not nimble enough to control the ipod like that but it can be done. I think you can even build playlists too but it was alot easier to use the desktop for building playing lists and then using the ipod for scrolling and picking tunes any where in the house. Its makes the bdp1 really easy and fun to use.
Whatever you build on the desktop the ipod touch will see using mpod and vise versa. I used Gnome on the desktop and mpod on the touch.
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Couldn't the ipod touch do the same functions once connected to the interface?
I use the BR2 when I can't be bothered with the iPad or iTouch. Typically, like tonight, I loaded my top 50 songs USB Drive on the BDP-1 using the front panel controls - turned the lights out and scrolled through the songs using the BR2.
james
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If I use my iPod touch to control the BDP-1 through the interface, will it do all the same functions as the Bryston remote will? If so, great, if not, what will both the Touch and Bryston remote be able to control?
Hi Canucks0
The Ipod touch will be able to scroll your BDP-1 album/song list using the Bryston software MINI software interface and/or an app called Mpod which you can down load from the Apple store.
The BR-2 remote can control the (Play, Pause, Stop, Next and Previous) on the BDP-1 player and you will see your album/song list on the front panel of the BDP-1.
The BR-2 also contols the Bryston BCD-1 CD player, BDA-1 Digital-to-Analog Converter, B60R & B100 Integrated Amplifiers, BP6, BP16 & BP26 Preamps via Infra - Red Remote Control.
For for info on the BR2 check out Bryston web page at http://bryston.com/pdfs/09/BR2_MANUAL_20090716.pdf
Larry
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Hi James
Is it possible for you to provide us with the output power and current on the 4 usb ports on the BDP-1. Are these ports grouped together or do the have there own power supply's.
The reason i ask this question is, I was out looking to buy a 500 G usb drive with no wall wart. Some usb drive are sold with a usb cable that have a Y connection at one end, suggesting that they may need 2 usb ports to operate properly.
Thanks Larry
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Hi James
Is it possible for you to provide us with the output power and current on the 4 usb ports on the BDP-1. Are these ports grouped together or do the have there own power supply's.
The reason i ask this question is, I was out looking to buy a 500 G usb drive with no wall wart. Some usb drive are sold with a usb cable that have a Y connection at one end, suggesting that they may need 2 usb ports to operate properly.
Thanks Larry
Hi Larry,
Yes I would go with the newer 2.5 inch USB 2 drives so you only have to use one connection.
The bottom rear port is on it's own (.5 amps) and the top rear port and the front 2 ports share the same connection (.5 amps).
So I usually recommend putting the USB drive that requires the most power on the bottom rear port.
james
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Thanks James.
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James, I'm probably not alone in my desire to use the BDP-1 as a player for hi rez files, including the RR HRx recordings that have been so highly received. However, re your previous note about FAT32 having a single file size limit of 4Gb.... this quote from the RR site:
"What are the system requirements to play back HRx? You must have a large amount of hard drive storage space available. One HRx title can take up to 4.7 GB of space. You must have software to manage the music playback. "
Semantics, of course, but I'm hoping - and sure that you know... - When RR talks about a 'title' needing 4.7GB, do they mean one file or multi files?
I personally see the BDP-1 as a no-brainer alternative to computer playback - especially with its networking potential. I hope I'm seeing a problem where none exists!!
Thanks again
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James, I'm probably not alone in my desire to use the BDP-1 as a player for hi rez files, including the RR HRx recordings that have been so highly received. However, re your previous note about FAT32 having a single file size limit of 4Gb.... this quote from the RR site:
"What are the system requirements to play back HRx? You must have a large amount of hard drive storage space available. One HRx title can take up to 4.7 GB of space. You must have software to manage the music playback. "
Semantics, of course, but I'm hoping - and sure that you know... - When RR talks about a 'title' needing 4.7GB, do they mean one file or multi files?
I personally see the BDP-1 as a no-brainer alternative to computer playback - especially with its networking potential. I hope I'm seeing a problem where none exists!!
Thanks again
jstrouth
What site are you are you referring too? Can you post the link please.
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http://www.referencerecordings.com/HRx2.asp
.... in the faqs...
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James, I'm probably not alone in my desire to use the BDP-1 as a player for hi rez files, including the RR HRx recordings that have been so highly received. However, re your previous note about FAT32 having a single file size limit of 4Gb.... this quote from the RR site:
"What are the system requirements to play back HRx? You must have a large amount of hard drive storage space available. One HRx title can take up to 4.7 GB of space. You must have software to manage the music playback. "
Semantics, of course, but I'm hoping - and sure that you know... - When RR talks about a 'title' needing 4.7GB, do they mean one file or multi files?
I personally see the BDP-1 as a no-brainer alternative to computer playback - especially with its networking potential. I hope I'm seeing a problem where none exists!!
Thanks again
Hi jtstrouth,
I have one of the Reference Recordings HRx "titles" -HR-109 - The Hot Club of San Francisco. This particular album contains 17 different songs (files). The total size of the entire album is 4.1GB for the 17 songs + cover art. The individual songs (files) range from 152.8 MB to 305.8 MB depending on length of the song. So there are absolutely no issues on playing this "title". By the way if you like jazz I highly recommend this one. The 24 bit / 176.4 khz recording was engineered by Keith Johnson and it sounds absolutely great on the BDP-1/BDA-1 combo. :thumb:
Tony
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James, I'm probably not alone in my desire to use the BDP-1 as a player for hi rez files, including the RR HRx recordings that have been so highly received. However, re your previous note about FAT32 having a single file size limit of 4Gb.... this quote from the RR site:
"What are the system requirements to play back HRx? You must have a large amount of hard drive storage space available. One HRx title can take up to 4.7 GB of space. You must have software to manage the music playback. "
Semantics, of course, but I'm hoping - and sure that you know... - When RR talks about a 'title' needing 4.7GB, do they mean one file or multi files?
I personally see the BDP-1 as a no-brainer alternative to computer playback - especially with its networking potential. I hope I'm seeing a problem where none exists!!
Thanks again
Hi
Yes I have most of the RR stuff and they are refering to the complete DVD they send you. No problem at all with any single file.
james
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Thanks James & Tony. Glad to hear this is a no compromise player. I think you guys have a real winner here.
I have the Hot Club as well.... although only the HDTrack 24/88 version...
Begs an interesting question.... In a very well engineered recording such as this, what's the sonic difference between the 24/88 and 24/176? Can you hear it easily? Do I have 90%, 95%, 99% of the full resolution sound already? That is, should I spring for the 24/176.....
:-)
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Thanks James & Tony. Glad to hear this is a no compromise player. I think you guys have a real winner here.
I have the Hot Club as well.... although only the HDTrack 24/88 version...
Begs an interesting question.... In a very well engineered recording such as this, what's the sonic difference between the 24/88 and 24/176? Can you hear it easily? Do I have 90%, 95%, 99% of the full resolution sound already? That is, should I spring for the 24/176.....
:-)
The higher resolution recordings have a greater sense of air and space - its is sutle though not night and day. i still think the original recording and the care taken has much to do with the end result.
The great thing you will find with the BDP-1 though is how terrific your standard 44.1 CD's sound ripped to the USB harddrive through the BDP-1 :thumb:
james
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Hi Folks,
I have been asked to show the type of cables and connectors the BDP-1 utilizes:
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=42671)
AES-EBU 110 ohm Digital cable
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=42672)
BNC to BNC 75 ohm Digital Cable
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=42673)
BNC to RCA (COAX) Digital Cable
james
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Hi James, I am thinking about ordering a BDP-1 and BDA-1. Questions
1. Is the BDA-1 now available with matching cosmetics (buttons) to BDP-1?
2. Is there be a combo retail price for BDP-1 and BDA-1? If so what?
3. I would be stacking the 2 components. How much do you charge for the 4" AES-EBU 110 ohm digital jumper cable?
Thanks, Al
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Hi James, I am thinking about ordering a BDP-1 and BDA-1. Questions
1. Is the BDA-1 now available with matching cosmetics (buttons) to BDP-1?
2. Is there be a combo retail price for BDP-1 and BDA-1? If so what?
3. I would be stacking the 2 components. How much do you charge for the 4" AES-EBU 110 ohm digital jumper cable?
Thanks, Al
Hi Al,
1. Yes but special order
2. No we have not looked at that yet as we have been backordered since we introduced the BDP-1
3. The cable is around $100 list I believe .
http://bryston.com/aeseub.html
james
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James
Could you post the date of the most recent BDP software. I know it's somewhere in the other thread but it might be good to have it here.
Thanks
Jim
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James
Could you post the date of the most recent BDP software. I know it's somewhere in the other thread but it might be good to have it here.
Thanks
Jim
Dec 28th 2010
james
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And the follow up question for 15 points in total, 5 points each part:
1. Where do we get the update software from?
2. Any chance of a mailing list to inform users when updates are available?
3. Should the UK distributor be responsible for this support over here seeing how they are charging such a huge mark-up for "support"?
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And the follow up question for 15 points in total, 5 points each part:
1. Where do we get the update software from?
2. Any chance of a mailing list to inform users when updates are available?
3. Should the UK distributor be responsible for this support over here seeing how they are charging such a huge mark-up for "support"?
Hi Terry
1. The updates would come directly from us as we have to send (email) a file which allows you to connect to our server.
2. I plan to create and post update notices in the Softwear section of our website and also in AudioCircle.
3. Terry you mean support from the software side - if so I would say its better to do it directly from here. If its a hardware issue then yes it is up to the specific distributor to take care of things.
james
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What does the new update do? I generally do not update my equipment unless I am having a problem with the equipment or if there is a tangible improvement. Also, I thought the bdp-1 has a feature to check for updates itself or is this feature not active yet.
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What does the new update do? I generally do not update my equipment unless I am having a problem with the equipment or if there is a tangible improvement. Also, I thought the bdp-1 has a feature to check for updates itself or is this feature not active yet.
Hi alinto,
Really good point :thumb: I hesitate sometimes to promote software changes that are only 'housekeeping' issues because downloading new software for some can be a confusing task and there is always some risk of error.
There is no automatic download of software because the purchase and serial number has to be confirmed before we send new software.
james
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I did the update, so good.
Today I heard all day bdp1 with Bryston dac, I'm very happy, it's been two months and I still wonder to what sounds good.
Is very nice to have the chance to talk to the manufacturer for advice.
I do all my congratulations to James.
Now I'm using Bryston max interface, rather than mpod.
There are a few things but 'I hope you improve:
1 - as you enter the Shuffle? You could not put a specific button?
2-it would take an option to search for songs
3 - the time bar overlaps with that of the album info
4-would be nice to have the opportunity to choose whether to add this song to your playlist or just listen
5 - v-meter put on a blue background
Thanks
P.s. State problrma resolving wait times?
Sorry for my bad english
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There is no automatic download of software because the purchase and serial number has to be confirmed before we send new software.
james
Just wondering, Why is this? You already made the money on the product, does it really matter if an owner bought the equipment new from an "authorized dealer", or from someone that creates a "grey market" because prices are through the roof in some areas whereas they are WELL below that in other areas, or second hand?
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Just wondering, Why is this? You already made the money on the product, does it really matter if an owner bought the equipment new from an "authorized dealer", or from someone that creates a "grey market" because prices are through the roof in some areas whereas they are WELL below that in other areas, or second hand?
if you loose the support of your dealers/distributors you're out of business.
james
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James,
the rear ports of the BDP don't have no space between 'em (too narrow compared to the front ports). i know that the front ports are "made" for thumb drives but it would have been smart to provide the same space at the back for those customers who want to use different sized cables?!
al.
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James,
the rear ports of the BDP don't have no space between 'em (too narrow compared to the front ports). i know that the front ports are "made" for thumb drives but it would have been smart to provide the same space at the back for those customers who want to use different sized cables?!
al.
Hi Al -
The back ports are mounted directly to the CPU circuit board (part of the cpu circuit board) and spacing them would have meant an adapter board which we did not want to do. I have not had any issue plugging in standard USB cables.
james
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Now that my BDP-1 is fully networked to my Windows PC and iPAD, I've been playing with the various interfaces - MPoD, Max, Minion and Gnome (are there more)
Album art
Do I add the images inside the actual flac files (I have mp3tag) adding to the metadata?
Do I just drop a jpg into the folder containing the flacs?
Does the name of the jpeg matter and if so what should it be called?
Thanks,
Terry
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Now that my BDP-1 is fully networked to my Windows PC and iPAD, I've been playing with the various interfaces - MPoD, Max, Minion and Gnome (are there more)
Album art
Do I add the images inside the actual flac files (I have mp3tag) adding to the metadata?
Do I just drop a jpg into the folder containing the flacs?
Does the name of the jpeg matter and if so what should it be called?
Thanks,
Terry
Hi Terry
What cd ripper are you using?
If you use dBpoweramp once you put the cd in your drive and it will scan it, then it will check the internet for meta, the album art should appear then, however you have options to check the internet for better pics, or if no album art appears you can google the album and try to find the album art, save the pic to a file, then add it or scan the cover art then add it.
You then can check the meta to see if it matches the CD info. I try to check both of these items and try to get the best match before I rip the cd.
Have fun and good luck
Larry
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I have a Mac Pro laptop and I can transfer files to the attached USB drives on the BDP-1 as long as those drives are formatted Fat32. You can use the Mini or the Max interface or any of the web browser interfaces as you can on tha PC as well.
james
This seems like problem solved with network access to files via BDP. Instead of trying to get the BDP to read files on the network, why not just use the BDP as a NAS. Problem solved IMO. I don't have to worry about the other computer to be on nor would I have to deal with teaching the BDP to log on to the fileshare.
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This seems like problem solved with network access to files via BDP. Instead of trying to get the BDP to read files on the network, why not just use the BDP as a NAS. Problem solved IMO. I don't have to worry about the other computer to be on nor would I have to deal with teaching the BDP to log on to the fileshare.
Hey Skunark
How about just thinking of it as a dac that you can stick usb sticks and bus powered HD;s into. :thumb:
You know you guys might be barking up the wrong tree here. I would be more interested in what he's doing with the SP3. There could be some funky stuff going on with this and how it interfaces with the bdp. James has kind of been silent about this piece lately?. :scratch:
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How about just thinking of it as a dac that you can stick usb sticks and bus powered HD;s into.
Because it is a digital file player with no internal digital to analog conversion and therefore isn't a DAC.
Steve
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Hey Skunark
How about just thinking of it as a dac that you can stick usb sticks and bus powered HD;s into. :thumb:
You know you guys might be barking up the wrong tree here. I would be more interested in what he's doing with the SP3. There could be some funky stuff going on with this and how it interfaces with the bdp. James has kind of been silent about this piece lately?. :scratch:
Werd, it's not a DAC.... if anything you can related the BDP to a CD transport. The NAS feature is already there and requires no change for Bryston other than to market it as a feature if you connect up drives to it. If anything they could make a HDD enclosure with a reasonable power supply.
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I've ripped my cds to an external hd in apple lossless using itunes. If I take that external hd and attach it to the bdp-1, what would navigation of my collection look like? Would I have cover art? Could I browse by genre (or other info that itunes stores)?
If I get a Mac Mini with a large enough internal hd, could I connect that as my source for the bdp-1?
Thanks for any guidance.
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I've ripped my cds to an external hd in apple lossless using itunes. If I take that external hd and attach it to the bdp-1, what would navigation of my collection look like? Would I have cover art? Could I browse by genre (or other info that itunes stores)?
If I get a Mac Mini with a large enough internal hd, could I connect that as my source for the bdp-1?
Thanks for any guidance.
Hi drewant,
The navigation would be determined by the Music Player you used with the external harddrive. There are a number of Linux music players available. I am not that familiar with iTunes album art because I use dbpower amp to rip my cds and the album art is always attached.
NO - sorry you can not connect the mini-mac to the BDP-1 - they are both 'hosts'. You must use a USB harddrive or thumbdrive.
james
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Hi Folks,
I am been trying to put together a discription of how the digital data gets transfered in the many USB DAC's out there and Ethernet streaming.
A big thanks to JIM for putting this together for me. :D
"USB DACs use what is called ‘isochronous transfers” to receive data from the host, typically your computer. With all isochronous methods, a constant stream of data needs to arrive in fixed intervals to the DAC without starvation. USB audio devices will receive an audio stream that contains a millisecond of data one thousand times a second. Any failure to deliver the data accurately will result in dropouts, corrupt data or substandard audio synchronization.
Almost every digital interface found on a computer follows the OSI Model which defines specialized tasks required to transfer data into seven layers. These layers can employ various techniques to detect, correct or resend the data for a reliable transfer. Sadly, isochronous transfers cannot take advantage of the features that detect uncorrectable errors and requests a retry. It’s up to the design of the USB DAC to either allow or drop the flawed packet.
To further complicate this, USB DACs can use one of three modes for clock recovery with isochronous transfers: synchronous, asynchronous or adaptive:
•Synchronous solutions will align the clock from either a beacon sent every millisecond or draw on source-synchronous techniques from the data packets sent on those fixed intervals. Hubs and This is a great example of how clock jitter can be additive even if the DAC uses resynchronization techniques.
•Asynchronous solutions will perform clock and data recovery using an external clock oscillator as data is expected to arrive within a given duration. The challenge here is to minimize jitter per frequency 44.1, 48, 88.2, 96, 176.4 and 192 kHz.
•Adaptive solutions will convert the data to match that of an external clock oscillator to a fixed clock frequency used by the internal DAC. The obstacle with this method is converting music from 44.1, 48, 88.2, 96, 176.4 kHz to 192 kHz (as an example) without losing any information about the waveform. The advantage to be had is playing a 192 kHz source on a USB DAC tuned for a ‘natural frequency’ of 192 kHz. This setup has the potential to outperform the other two with less cost if the user can play files that match the natural frequency of the USB DAC.
Three common questions one would have if using a USB DAC are:
•Since there is no data recovery, how reliable is the connection between the computer and the USB DAC such that data can arrive safely without electrical noise or bandwidth issues? (same question for every streaming solution)
•How accurate is the clock-recovery mechanism employed in the USB DAC such that it can produce the lowest possible jitter for a high-quality playback? (same question for every digital product targeting high-resolution audio)
•Is placing a computer next to the stereo causing additional electrical noise to bleed into the other components? Should the computer be on an isolated circuit from the stereo? Will there be any audible noises coming from the computer that will lessen the experience? (same question for every digital product)
From a user’s point of view it’s rather simple to add a USB DAC between a computer and their stereo to get very good sound. The user can select any digital music player application and operating system of their choice for playback and even download high resolution music. The user also has full control on managing the data, applications running and resources attached to it. And as long as you don’t mind having a dedicated computer next to your stereo and one can overlook any audible noise it produces, this is a great high-resolution solution with a tremendous amount of flexibility but with the known drawbacks with USB isochronous transfers.
Note: Firewire DACs also employ isochronous techniques very similar to USB DACs.
Streaming audio over Ethernet will have all the same issues as a USB DACs but with the added complexity of the network. There are several different solutions for stream audio and they all are built on top of or is a variant of what is called User Datagram Protocol (UDP). Without going into the details of these solutions, they simply allow transmission without concern of safe arrival."
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Werd, it's not a DAC.... if anything you can related the BDP to a CD transport. The NAS feature is already there and requires no change for Bryston other than to market it as a feature if you connect up drives to it. If anything they could make a HDD enclosure with a reasonable power supply.
I know its not a dac. Since it has to be hooked up to a dac i was just trying to make it seem more like a high performance audio player than a something that resembles a computer.
Like you said Skunark it is a transport. My view is: what ever usb device i use it has to be the starting gate in my system. That is what defines the meaning for me being a transport-starting gate. Is this piece the starting gate? The first thing i learned with the bdp and hooking up hard drives is - it may not be. The more you start interfacing it with your computer the more the computer starts becoming the transport (bad bad bad --- very bad). I had such a bad experience with a 12 volt power Omega HD that it drove this point home in spades. To noisey to ignore.
The BDP is a very sensitive audio component. You need that to get the 96khz and 192khz through. I have heard usb devices that claim to be hi rez and really don't sound any different than its regular redbook counterpart in hirez. I own a creative 2496 adapter right now that sounds worse in 96khz than it does on redbook from my cd transport. Only because its not built to generate a decent hirez signal. You start throwing HD's in the bdp1 and more network capability you guys have to ask, how much more do you want to pay to ensure that all the added interface circuitry can guarantee a good transport?
The way the bdp is now, the computer is just there to send control data via ethernet. Thank god for that. I am sure there are employable techniques in interfacing your computer but you really need to know what you are doing. Not me !!!!! and i am sure a great many of Bryston's customers are not great at setting up silent networks either.
Here is a good example of what i respect about the BDP. Before i bought my 14B i owned the BCD/BDA combo. What i notice was how close the bcd sounded on its own when compared to using it as a transport into the bda. Almost identical. Some slight differences but so close you could easily call it the same. When i sold my bcd to make funds for my 14B i started using my old modded Sony S7700 transport again. Differences in transports is significant, I lost a lot of the Bryston front end sound. Its sounds good but very different than the bcd/bda combo. With the BDP i got the bcd sound back. Now everytime you start employing more capability into the bdp the more it starts slipping into a more generic sounding component.
How much do you want to pay to keep the Bryston front-end sound with no noise and more computer type interfacing. Its going to be costly. No thanks $2200 is enough.
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I own a creative 2496 adapter right now that sounds worse in 96khz than it does on redbook from my cd transport. Only because its not built to generate a decent hirez signal.
This one Werd?
(http://)
:duh:
It would be so easy for me to dismiss it as a POS and :lol: at you for ever buying such.
Instead I will explain you what went wrong.
1) When you set it at 96Khz, there will be upsampling, and this will be performed by *Windows* according to an unspecified algorithm that doesn't sound stellar at all.
2) That box is "adaptive USB" i.e. it converts in real-time and largely depends on the audio stream to be accurately timed and error free. Which won't happen with most general-use computers.
P.S. The BDA is the same. That's why it sounded different with the different "transports" you used. And that's why you'd want the BDP in order to extract maximum performance.
P.P.S. All this would be fixed once for all by including a DAC inside the BDP; or having a BDA-2 with async USB.
P.P.P.S. It won't happen as it seems that James wants to sell 2 boxes @ $2000 each, which probably produce better profit than 1 box @ $3000.
P.P.P.P.S. Connect the SB box to a BDP and you'll be surprised.
Nap.
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Hi Terry
What cd ripper are you using?
If you use dBpoweramp once you put the cd in your drive and it will scan it, then it will check the internet for meta, the album art should appear then, however you have options to check the internet for better pics, or if no album art appears you can google the album and try to find the album art, save the pic to a file, then add it or scan the cover art then add it.
You then can check the meta to see if it matches the CD info. I try to check both of these items and try to get the best match before I rip the cd.
Have fun and good luck
Larry
Hi Larry,
I'm not ripping CDs, I've purchased hi-res music online.
My question concerned where the artwork should be
Terry
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This one Werd?
(http://)
:duh:
It would be so easy for me to dismiss it as a POS and :lol: at you for ever buying such.
Instead I will explain you what went wrong.
1) When you set it at 96Khz, there will be upsampling, and this will be performed by *Windows* according to an unspecified algorithm that doesn't sound stellar at all.
2) That box is "adaptive USB" i.e. it converts in real-time and largely depends on the audio stream to be accurately timed and error free. Which won't happen with most general-use computers.
P.S. The BDA is the same. That's why it sounded different with the different "transports" you used. And that's why you'd want the BDP in order to extract maximum performance.
P.P.S. All this would be fixed once for all by including a DAC inside the BDP; or having a BDA-2 with async USB.
P.P.P.S. It won't happen as it seems that James wants to sell 2 boxes @ $2000 each, which probably produce better profit than 1 box @ $3000.
P.P.P.P.S. Connect the SB box to a BDP and you'll be surprised.
Nap.
No mine is way older than that and you have to install drivers for it. Go back to 2003. I don't even think the usb input is 2.0 :duh: :lol:
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Hi James
Would you have an approximate date when the BDA-1 will be available with the new cosmetics without placing a special order
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Hi James
Would you have an approximate date when the BDA-1 will be available with the new cosmetics without placing a special order
This month but I would still make sure the dealer says NEW BUTTONS on BDA-1.
james
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No mine is way older than that and you have to install drivers for it. Go back to 2003. I don't even think the usb input is 2.0 :duh: :lol:
Oh god not the creative drivers...
Nap I wouldn't really call the BDA "adaptive", it's not converting 44.1 kHz to 192 kHz, but to 176.4 kHz nor is it converting 48 kHz to 176.4 kHz but to 192 kHz. Converting from 44.1 kHz to 176.4 is rather simple compared if the conversion was to 192 kHz. Also, you can disable the upsampling in the BDA. The fact that the BDA re-clocks does make it more 'adaptive' like, but adaptive solutions only have one natural frequency like that creative PITA.
I will have to congratulate Werd though for owning up to mistakes on his hardware purchases. So creative, omega, anything else you need to take to your confessional?
Nap, why do you keep on about USB DACs? It's the last solution I want to use.
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1. Nap I wouldn't really call the BDA "adaptive",
2. Nap, why do you keep on about USB DACs? It's the last solution I want to use.
1. Forget upsampling, it's "adaptive" as it syncs to the incoming data rate via PLL loop. It doesn't really reclock to an internal, fixed, high precision clock. So it "adapts" the clock to whatever comes in.
2. An "async" USB DAC would be the next best thing to the BDAP-1 (BDP with internal DAC). I'm not interested in anything going through S/PDIF.
Nap.
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1. Forget upsampling, it's "adaptive" as it syncs to the incoming data rate via PLL loop. It doesn't really reclock to an internal, fixed, high precision clock. So it "adapts" the clock to whatever comes in.
2. An "async" USB DAC would be the next best thing to the BDAP-1 (BDP with internal DAC). I'm not interested in anything going through S/PDIF.
Nap.
Me like ...uhg..... sampling up .... off. Sounds good madonna play. me like also.... bda sample up...uhg..... on. play 96khz hi reez.... 192khz sound light beep on....
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=42889)
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Me like ...uhg..... sampling up .... off. Sounds good madonna play. me like also.... bda sample up...uhg..... on. play 96khz hi reez.... 192khz sound light beep on....
Werd, you sound like last night you had too much pussy after too much booze....
(http://)
nap. :lol:
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1. Forget upsampling, it's "adaptive" as it syncs to the incoming data rate via PLL loop. It doesn't really reclock to an internal, fixed, high precision clock. So it "adapts" the clock to whatever comes in.
2. An "async" USB DAC would be the next best thing to the BDAP-1 (BDP with internal DAC). I'm not interested in anything going through S/PDIF.
Nap.
USB DAC isn't the next best thing to a BDA, it's a small to huge step backwards based on your computer environment. The next best thing would be to use a CD transport. :)
To improve on the BDA and BDP connection would be to push for i2s instead of SPDIF. This is an option to the DAC in the BDA and is probably on the soundcard chip that the BDP uses. I'm guessing you already know this with your push to combine the BDA and BDP. When SPDIF has a clock alignment issue it's rather minimal and could be calculated by the quality of the clock oscillators in BDP and BDA. USB DAC, there are other factors at play besides the clock-recovery and it's a difference of losing one cycle of data versus one milisecond of data.
Perhaps I misread the BDA literature, but it does reclock. Asynchronous USB DACs could also reclock as it's typically just a feature of the DAC, but hopefully they do use i2s between the USB audio device chip and the DAC.
Jim
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
YES we do use i2s between the USB audio device chip and the DAC
james
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
YES we do use i2s between the USB audio device chip and the DAC
james
But not between the BDP and the BDA....
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USB DAC isn't the next best thing to a BDA, it's a small to huge step backwards based on your computer environment. The next best thing would be to use a CD transport. :)
C'mon. Wasn't this an exercise in avoiding those plastic discs? otherwise you can just get the BCD-1 and forgetaboutthewholedacthing.
Nap.
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james, using Bryston maxi, there's a way to turn on Shuffle Songs? thanks
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james, using Bryston maxi, there's a way to turn on Shuffle Songs? thanks
Hi primandro,
No I am sorry if you want that feature you would have to use one of the other Linux music players - Minion, MPod, Gnome.
james
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Thanks for the quick response.
I have tried all the systems to control the bdp1 with both PC and ipod with IPAD, what I like best 'is Brystonmaxi with IPAD, with minor improvements that I wrote some post above would be perfect.
Last thing, is theoretically a better self-powered external HD or external HD 2.5 "which is powered directly via USB?
Thanks
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
YES we do use i2s between the USB audio device chip and the DAC
james
James,
I did side-step the topic a bit but if i2s was used between BDP and BDA, this would eliminate any drawback that SPDIF might have even if you used a AES cable. (and might shut NAP up :) a little)
A little more off topic, does the BDP include the linux usb audio drivers? One could use the BDP as device to compare USB DACs and SPDIF DACs.
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A little more off topic, does the BDP include the linux usb audio drivers? One could use the BDP as device to compare USB DACs and SPDIF DACs.Repo
Not sure on that - will check.
james
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Thanks for the quick response.
I have tried all the systems to control the bdp1 with both PC and ipod with IPAD, what I like best 'is Brystonmaxi with IPAD, with minor improvements that I wrote some post above would be perfect.
Last thing, is theoretically a better self-powered external HD or external HD 2.5 "which is powered directly via USB?
Thanks
Hi pimando,
I do not think it would matter as long as the USB 2 drive was not requiring more that .5 amps to run. I do find the powered drives seem to be mechanically noisier.
james
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(and might shut NAP up :) a little)
When hell will freeze.... :lol:
Now seriously, we had this discussion some time ago when the BDP was still on the drawing board. Good old Nap and several other (inconvenient) people asked at that time if the BDP will have a "world clock" connector or some other clock sync mechanism.
James said at that time that since the BDP is being designed as a companion to the BDA, and the BDA does not have this ability, then they won't include it with the BDP either.
Nap.
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Returning to Bryston Max...
My music folders on my memory stick contain FLACs named 01 <Title1>, 02 <Title2> etc
This way they appear on my Windows PC in the correct order ie the order they appear on the original CD
But when I view the folder contents in Max, the order is all higgldy piggldy
Why is this so.
James, you'll see this on the jpeg I sent you last week.
Terry
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Returning to Bryston Max...
My music folders on my memory stick contain FLACs named 01 <Title1>, 02 <Title2> etc
This way they appear on my Windows PC in the correct order ie the order they appear on the original CD
But when I view the folder contents in Max, the order is all higgldy piggldy
Why is this so.
James, you'll see this on the jpeg I sent you last week.
Terry
Hi Terry,
i have never seen that on my setup -not sure why that is?
What ripper are you using?
james
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Hi Terry,
i have never seen that on my setup -not sure why that is?
What ripper are you using?
james
They're just files surely?
Should not they appear alpha numerically?
I use dbPowerAmp but a lot of my stuff I get on line "pre-ripped"
Terry
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When hell will freeze.... :lol:
Now seriously, we had this discussion some time ago when the BDP was still on the drawing board. Good old Nap and several other (inconvenient) people asked at that time if the BDP will have a "world clock" connector or some other clock sync mechanism.
James said at that time that since the BDP is being designed as a companion to the BDA, and the BDA does not have this ability, then they won't include it with the BDP either.
Nap.
Uhg :scratch:... it cold here now. I get bdp today..... scratch. I hope it got good clock like u say or might take bak..... uhg
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=42888)
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Thanks for the quick response.
I have tried all the systems to control the bdp1 with both PC and ipod with IPAD, what I like best 'is Brystonmaxi with IPAD, with minor improvements that I wrote some post above would be perfect.
Last thing, is theoretically a better self-powered external HD or external HD 2.5 "which is powered directly via USB?
Thanks
Have you checked out MPad (iPad version of MPoD) to be released in a month or so? If it works the way the demo presents it, it will be another leap forward for the BDP.
http://www.katoemba.net/makesnosenseatall/2011/01/04/mpad-screencast/
James, it may not have been what you intended but I'm afraid the BDP is becoming a great server front-end as well as a great digital music transport!
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James, it may not have been what you intended but I'm afraid the BDP is becoming a great server front-end as well as a great digital music transport!
Expand on that please :D
james
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Have you checked out MPad (iPad version of MPoD) to be released in a month or so? If it works the way the demo presents it, it will be another leap forward for the BDP.
http://www.katoemba.net/makesnosenseatall/2011/01/04/mpad-screencast/
James, it may not have been what you intended but I'm afraid the BDP is becoming a great server front-end as well as a great digital music transport!
Yes I was speaking with the gentleman that did the iPod interface and asked him about doing a custom interface for us - he sent me the info on the MPad and I shut up :thumb:
james
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Expand on that please :D
james
Two words - "Sooloos Killer!" :lol:
Now when can I expect my NTFS Read/Write software update?
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Two words - "Sooloos Killer!" :lol:
Now when can I expect my NTFS Read/Write software update?
NTSF write - hopefully this summer :thumb:
james
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Hi guys, just got this sexy looking Chord Signature AES-EBU cable through, looking forward to comparing it to my Atlas S/Pdif cable, I'm hoping it sounds as good as it looks :) :-
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=42892)
If there is no performance gain with the AES cable then at least we all know this will make a massive difference :icon_twisted: :-
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=42893)
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Hi guys, just got this sexy looking Chord Signature AES-EBU cable through, looking forward to comparing it to my Atlas S/Pdif cable, I'm hoping it sounds as good as it looks :) :-
If there is no performance gain with the AES cable then at least we all know this will make a massive difference :icon_twisted: :-
That looks nice dude. What Atlas rca do you have?
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Got a question?.... How important is it to defrag your usb sticks? Do i even need to do that?
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Got a question?.... How important is it to defrag your usb sticks? Do i even need to do that?
I wouldn't bother
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I wouldn't bother
Ok thanks
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Got a question?.... How important is it to defrag your usb sticks? Do i even need to do that?
hi werd,
Defragging reduces the number of read/writes
james
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That looks nice dude. What Atlas rca do you have?
Hi werd,
At the moment I'm running Atlas 75ohm Opus Coaxial between the BDP and BDA and Navigator RCA's throughout the rest of the system.
Just about to order Atlas Mavros XLR's and speaker cable though, unfortunately I can't quite stretch to the pure silver Asimi range at £2500 per meter XLR :o
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Hi werd,
At the moment I'm running Atlas 75ohm Opus Coaxial between the BDP and BDA and Navigator RCA's throughout the rest of the system.
Just about to order Atlas Mavros XLR's and speaker cable though, unfortunately I can't quite stretch to the pure silver Asimi range at £2500 per meter XLR :o
Hi
Thats the one i use in 75 ohm, the atlas opus. I asked UHF about that Atlas opus (since they use it in their reference), if the BNC in opus was any better? They told me the bnc they like best is the Atlas Opus in rca using the bnc adaptor from radio shack... I tried it and its better then the straightwire bnc to rca (loan) i was using by far. The adaptor is only like 8 bucks and you can get it at Source or Radio shack.
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hi werd,
Defragging reduces the number of read/writes
james
Thanks James, picked up a lexor usb stick. Love the 44.1 like you said. Its all good. I notice their are a lot of decent 192khz on HD tracks now that i will be looking at getting. When i find some i will post in the "what are you currently listening to thread on this board"
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Thanks James, picked up a lexor usb stick. Love the 44.1 like you said. Its all good. I notice their are a lot of decent 192khz on HD tracks now that i will be looking at getting. When i find some i will post in the "what are you currently listening to thread on this board"
Yes I have both a 'Lexor' 32G AND 64G thumbdrive and them along with 'Cruser' are my favorites.
james
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Defragging reduces the number of read/writes
Defragmentation makes sense on a hard drive with hundreds and thousands of files that are constantly created and deleted. Because there are no read/write heads on a flash drive, even if a song file got fragmented, there is an imperceptable lag between reading contiguous data chunks, and there would be virtually no performance increase.
Also, because flash memory longevity is largely based on the number of write cycles rather than read cycles, one could argue that routine defragmentation, which would actually generate a larger number of writes, might adversely affect flash drive lifespan versus not defragging at all.
Steve
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Defragmentation makes sense on a hard drive with hundreds and thousands of files that are constantly created and deleted. Because there are no read/write heads on a flash drive, even if a song file got fragmented, there is an imperceptable lag between reading contiguous data chunks, and there would be virtually no performance increase.
Also, because flash memory longevity is largely based on the number of write cycles rather than read cycles, one could argue that routine defragmentation, which would actually generate a larger number of writes, might adversely affect flash drive lifespan versus not defragging at all.
Steve
I guess i will not be defraggin any usb's but i do notice that these lexor usb sticks fit really snug into the usb slot (tight). I am guessing that is a good thing?
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i do notice that these lexor usb sticks fit really snug into the usb slot (tight). I am guessing that is a good thing?
That's what she said :D
james
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That's what she said :D
james
Time for a "Bryston Lube" tube. For those USB keys.
Nap.
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A nice Flashdrive with good read/write speeds.
http://otvtech.com/catalogue.html?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage_stock.tpl&product_id=9568&category_id=510
james
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Returning to Bryston Max...
My music folders on my memory stick contain FLACs named 01 <Title1>, 02 <Title2> etc
This way they appear on my Windows PC in the correct order ie the order they appear on the original CD
But when I view the folder contents in Max, the order is all higgldy piggldy
Why is this so?
James, you'll see this on the jpeg I sent you last week.
Terry
Solved the problem.
The album by Miles Davis contains three CDs. I put all the songs into one directory on the memory stick and renamed the file names as above but kept the meta data the same.
Hence I had three tracks ones, three track twos etc. (one from each CD)
Max is sorting the tracks in its display by track number stored in the meta data hence the wierd track order!
BTW
The feature within Max to change the skin doesn't seem to work.
How do you use Max on a PC to add tracks to an album on the memory stick attached to the BDP-1?
Terry
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Solved the problem.
The album by Miles Davis contains three CDs. I put all the songs into one directory on the memory stick and renamed the file names as above but kept the meta data the same.
Hence I had three tracks ones, three track twos etc. (one from each CD)
Max is sorting the tracks in its display by track number stored in the meta data hence the wierd track order!
BTW
The feature within Max to change the skin doesn't seem to work.
How do you use Max on a PC to add tracks to an album on the memory stick attached to the BDP-1?
Terry
Hi Terry,
Good news - thanks for the update.
The skin change works OK for me - let me check further. Are you hitting UPDATE then reloading MAX?
You do NOT use MAX or any other music player interface to transfer files - you use your home Network and drag and drop from one drive to another. Remember the receiving attached drive must be formated Fat32.
james
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Hi Terry,
Good news - thanks for the update.
The skin change works OK for me - let me check further. Are you hitting UPDATE then reloading MAX?
You do NOT use MAX or any other music player interface to transfer files - you use your home Network and drag and drop from one drive to another. Remember the receiving attached drive must be formated Fat32.
james
Great.
Do I get a job as a software tester?
It doesn't mention a reload of Max is required
As to the last point, are you saying I can see thumb drives attached to the BDP-1 in Windows on my computer?
Doesn't mention that anywhere, how do I do that?
BTW, what's the point of the "Bryston says" feature?
Terry
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Hi Terry
Yes the BDP-1 will be visable on your computer under NETWORKS.
The 'Bryston Says' allows me to type in rude comments that show up on the front of the BDP-1 in the display - the engineering guys had a lot of fun with that when I was testing the BDP-1 prototypes :D
james
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I reported last week that I coudn't connect fro my PC to the BDP-1 using the address bryston-bdp-1.local
What I ended up doing is adding an entry into my HOSTS file:
for this and the BDP's IP address of ....1.11
The Bryston address now works.
BTW The latest firmware lets you use fixed ip or DHCP
Any advantages to either?
Not saying it was in the previous firmware but I didn't notice.
The Max interface doesn't basically work in IE v8.
The screen gets incredibly corrupt when you view a track list.
Ok in Firefox but I don't consider that an adequate excuse as IE has the vast majority of the browser market on Windows PCs
Terry
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I reported last week that I coudn't connect fro my PC to the BDP-1 using the address bryston-bdp-1.local
What I ended up doing is adding an entry into my HOSTS file:
for this and the BDP's IP address of ....1.11
The Bryston address now works.
BTW The latest firmware lets you use fixed ip or DHCP
Any advantages to either?
Not saying it was in the previous firmware but I didn't notice.
The Max interface doesn't basically work in IE v8.
The screen gets incredibly corrupt when you view a track list.
Ok in Firefox but I don't consider that an adequate excuse as IE has the vast majority of the browser market on Windows PCs
Terry
Hi Terry
iE is NOT recommended :nono:
James
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Hi Terry
iE is NOT recommended with MAX :nono: MINI works fine With IE and MAX works fine with all other browsers - Safari, Firefox, Chrome.
IP address can change so a static IP prevents that.
James
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I reported last week that I coudn't connect fro my PC to the BDP-1 using the address bryston-bdp-1.local
What I ended up doing is adding an entry into my HOSTS file:
for this and the BDP's IP address of ....1.11
The Bryston address now works.
BTW The latest firmware lets you use fixed ip or DHCP
Any advantages to either?
Not saying it was in the previous firmware but I didn't notice.
The Max interface doesn't basically work in IE v8.
The screen gets incredibly corrupt when you view a track list.
Ok in Firefox but I don't consider that an adequate excuse as IE has the vast majority of the browser market on Windows PCs
Terry
Terry I had the same problem re:connect fro my PC to the BDP-1 using the address bryston-bdp-1.local
Try just using this address bryston-bdp-1. in Minion or Gnome. It worked for me and I did not have to enter the ip address as that keeps changing.
Larry
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MAX Dark Theme using Safari on PC Windows 7
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=42973)
james
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Minion on Firefox browser PC Windows 7
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=42974)
james
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Terry I had the same problem re:connect fro my PC to the BDP-1 using the address bryston-bdp-1.local
Try just using this address bryston-bdp-1. in Minion or Gnome. It worked for me and I did not have to enter the ip address as that keeps changing.
Larry
Hi Larry,
In the config stuff in Max on a PC you can deselect DHCP and use fixed IP.
That way the IP is static and sdoesn't change.
I also went into one of the settings in my router (I have a Draytek Vigor which is good for configureability) and bound a fixed IP to the Bryston's MAC address.
Terry
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Terry I had the same problem re:connect fro my PC to the BDP-1 using the address bryston-bdp-1.local
Try just using this address bryston-bdp-1. in Minion or Gnome. It worked for me and I did not have to enter the ip address as that keeps changing.
Larry
You mean, don't put .local at the end of the address?
Terry
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Google Chrome browser with MAX on PC Windows 7
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=42975)
james
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Gnome Music Player on PC Windows 7 - nice thing about Gnome is it does not need a browser and connects directly to the Linux operating system :thumb:
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=42977)
james
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Album view in Gnome :thumb:
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=42978)
james
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Hey James, what's that Steve Stevens album Just Like Love you're showing in the Gnome window? Is this Steve Stevens the guitarist who has done the albums Memory Crash and Flamenco A Go Go? Thanks
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Hey James, what's that Steve Stevens album Just Like Love you're showing in the Gnome window? Is this Steve Stevens the guitarist who has done the albums Memory Crash and Flamenco A Go Go? Thanks
I will check when I get home.
james
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Hi werd,
At the moment I'm running Atlas 75ohm Opus Coaxial between the BDP and BDA and Navigator RCA's throughout the rest of the system.
Just about to order Atlas Mavros XLR's and speaker cable though, unfortunately I can't quite stretch to the pure silver Asimi range at £2500 per meter XLR :o
Hi Vipers
If you are going to spend that much on cables why don't you do what i did first ? I sold my bcd and my 4B to make funds and bought a 14B. The 14B upgrade gave me bigger bang for the buck then any cable did (and i like cables). Looking at what you want to spend on cables this is a better route for you imo. To be comparative the 14B's performance increase over the 4B is rather significant. They sound exactly the same in tone but the 14B is just way more precise and relaxed only since its a such a power brute.
something to chew on.....
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You mean, don't put .local at the end of the address?
Terry
Hi Terry
In Minion setting under Description I have "BRYSTON-BDP-1", under Host "BRYSTON-BDP-1", Port "xxxx", Password "Bryston"
In Gnome under Name "Bryston Digital Player", Host "bryston-bdp-1", Port "xxxx", Password is "Bryston"
No need for me to use a static ip. I am using Windows 7 and make sure if you have a virus/internet security programm running what it is named under there.
Larry
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Hey James, what's that Steve Stevens album Just Like Love you're showing in the Gnome window? Is this Steve Stevens the guitarist who has done the albums Memory Crash and Flamenco A Go Go? Thanks
It is Steve Strauss.
james
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Thanks James. My eyes ain't what they used to be. :o
ells
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Hi Vipers
If you are going to spend that much on cables why don't you do what i did first ? I sold my bcd and my 4B to make funds and bought a 14B. The 14B upgrade gave me bigger bang for the buck then any cable did (and i like cables). Looking at what you want to spend on cables this is a better route for you imo. To be comparative the 14B's performance increase over the 4B is rather significant. They sound exactly the same in tone but the 14B is just way more precise and relaxed only since its a such a power brute.
something to chew on.....
Hi Werd
Thanks for the advice but I travelled a similar path afew months ago and sold my 4B SST2 and went for 2 x 7B SST2 so for me all that is left now is cables to fine tune my system or a couple of 28B's I guess :)
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Hi Werd
Thanks for the advice but I travelled a similar path afew months ago and sold my 4B SST2 and went for 2 x 7B SST2 so for me all that is left now is cables to fine tune my system or a couple of 28B's I guess :)
And update your photo's and systems.....hehe :thumb:
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And update your photo's and systems.....hehe :thumb:
Consider it done :)
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Hi Terry
In Minion setting under Description I have "BRYSTON-BDP-1", under Host "BRYSTON-BDP-1", Port "xxxx", Password "Bryston"
In Gnome under Name "Bryston Digital Player", Host "bryston-bdp-1", Port "xxxx", Password is "Bryston"
No need for me to use a static ip. I am using Windows 7 and make sure if you have a virus/internet security programm running what it is named under there.
Larry
Thanks Larry
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Here's another MPD client, this time for PalmOS
I have an old Palm T/X and Blazer, the built in browser, doesn't work with Mini, but this MPD client works just fine...
Palm MPC
http://palm-mpc.sourceforge.net/
(http://palm-mpc.sourceforge.net/)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=43025)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=43026)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=43027)
How about a client for the Sinclair Spectrum (Google it), anyone?
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As I do not have an iPad I was looking at a small (7") tablet PC with wifi, so I could use Mini, but most I have looked at run Android 1.6 and the user guide for the BDP-1 says Android 1.5 OR Android 2.2, does that mean these tablets will not work?
Cheers
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As I do not have an iPad I was looking at a small (7") tablet PC with wifi, so I could use Mini, but most I have looked at run Android 1.6 and the user guide for the BDP-1 says Android 1.5 OR Android 2.2, does that mean these tablets will not work?
Cheers
I'll check.
james
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Hi Folks,
If anyone wants to use the BDP-1 with the "Mancave Option" I just picked up a D-Link N300 router this morning ($44.00) and it connected instantly without any setup required. Just power up the D-Link then connect one of the Ethernet 'OUTLETS' on the back of the router to the Ethernet input on the BDP-1. The iPad saw the wireless connection immediatedly as 'dlink' and I was able to interface with the USB attached drives (after reboot) without issues.
Its a great way to operate the BDP-1 if you do not want to be on the Home Network or if you do not have a Home Network installed.
james
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New model:
(http://)
Take a look, some nice ideas and features there.
Nap.
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Hi Folks,
If anyone wants to use the BDP-1 with the "Mancave Option" I just picked up a D-Link N300 router this morning ($44.00) and it connected instantly without any setup required. Just power up the D-Link then connect one of the Ethernet 'OUTLETS' on the back of the router to the Ethernet input on the BDP-1. The iPad saw the wireless connection immediatedly as 'dlink' and I was able to interface with the USB attached drives (after reboot) without issues.
Its a great way to operate the BDP-1 if you do not want to be on the Home Network or if you do not have a Home Network installed.
james
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=43067)
UHG
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I'm sure the Olive is a great product, but it's a bit too CD centric for my tastes.
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Hi James & all,
Powered USB HDD came with small adapter and wire for DC in; would they generate some noise that might get into the BDP-1, DAC, or preamp? If they do, how far away should we put them away from those equipments? Or maybe, I should not have to worry about this. :?
Thanks,
Klao
Hi pimando,
I do not think it would matter as long as the USB 2 drive was not requiring more that .5 amps to run. I do find the powered drives seem to be mechanically noisier.
james
Last thing, is theoretically a better self-powered external HD or external HD 2.5 "which is powered directly via USB?
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Excerpt from an email sent by AudioT concerning the Bristol Sound & Vision show this coming weekend...
If it's music servers you're after... BRYSTON: hear the new BDP-1 digital music server
Will anybody from Bryston be there or will Bryston be just represented by the distributor (ooh err, missus)
Terry
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Excerpt from an email sent by AudioT concerning the Bristol Sound & Vision show this coming weekend...
If it's music servers you're after... BRYSTON: hear the new BDP-1 digital music server
Will anybody from Bryston be there or will Bryston be just represented by the distributor (ooh err, missus)
Terry
Hi Terry - no one from Bryston - the PMC guys though will be there in force. :thumb:
james
Hi Terry,
Who is AudioT?
james
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Lets hope they have been suitably briefed on the BDP-1 then.
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I managed to connect to the USB drives attached to my BDP-1 from "My Network Places" on my Windows XP machine.
I even managed to copy a new album across.
A bit of messing about to get it all configured, but once that has been done, it's great!
I presume this is how the new NAS drive will work?
Any more news on that?
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I managed to connect to the USB drives attached to my BDP-1 from "My Network Places" on my Windows XP machine.
I even managed to copy a new album across.
A bit of messing about to get it all configured, but once that has been done, it's great!
I presume this is how the new NAS drive will work?
Any more news on that?
Hi Terry,
It will not be a NAS drive (the BDP-1 is already a NAS) - it will be a dedicated 'attached' drive for the BDP-1. At this point we are experimenting with a matching chassis to the BDP-1 and it would contain two 2TB drives - one mirrored - and be a plug and play option for the BDP-1/BDA-1 system.
james
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Also, has anyone tried "audio grade" USB cables versus stock that came with HDD?
Hi James & all,
Powered USB HDD came with small adapter and wire for DC in; would they generate some noise that might get into the BDP-1, DAC, or preamp? If they do, how far away should we put them away from those equipments? Or maybe, I should not have to worry about this. :?
Thanks,
Klao
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Also, has anyone tried "audio grade" USB cables versus stock that came with HDD?
I have not tried any aftermarket cables klao.
james
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That's great James. Glad you're going down the RAID path.
When you say attached, I presume you mean attached via USB in which case it will have to be in close proximity to the BDP-1.
Any idea of release date?
Hi Terry,
It will not be a NAS drive (the BDP-1 is already a NAS) - it will be a dedicated 'attached' drive for the BDP-1. At this point we are experimenting with a matching chassis to the BDP-1 and it would contain two 2TB drives - one mirrored - and be a plug and play option for the BDP-1/BDA-1 system.
james
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Also, has anyone tried "audio grade" USB cables versus stock that came with HDD?
I think the concensus is that you would be better spending your money else where as the difference is non-existent
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That's great James. Glad you're going down the RAID path.
When you say attached, I presume you mean attached via USB in which case it will have to be in close proximity to the BDP-1.
Any idea of release date?
Hi Terry
I would say we are a couple of months away and yes it would be via USB.
james
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Thanks James & terrycym. I'll save the money on the after market USB cable for larger HDD instead. :thumb:
As for, 12V adapter for DC in to the powered USB HDD, do they generate any noise/electrical interference that might leak to the BDP-1, DAC, or preamp?
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Thanks James & terrycym. I'll save the money on the after market USB cable for larger HDD instead. :thumb:
As for, 12V adapter for DC in to the powered USB HDD, do they generate any noise/electrical interference that might leak to the BDP-1, DAC, or preamp?
I only have one drive that is powered externally (Lacie 500G) and so far do not measure any electrical noise issues - but it is mechanically noisy.
james
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Thanks James & terrycym. I'll save the money on the after market USB cable for larger HDD instead. :thumb:
As for, 12V adapter for DC in to the powered USB HDD, do they generate any noise/electrical interference that might leak to the BDP-1, DAC, or preamp?
As before, you'll be fine.
Consider all the other stuff you've got connected to the mains, TVs, fridges, central heating pumps, computers etc etc etc.
Why would a titchy 12v power supply screw up your sound?
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Hi Terry
I would say we are a couple of months away and yes it would be via USB.
james
Hi James, do you have any idea of a ball park price (I know we will then have an up-lift in rip-off-britain)?
Also did you hear anything about Android versions, might be useful for people to know?
Cheers
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Hi James, do you have any idea of a ball park price (I know we will then have an up-lift in rip-off-britain)?
Also did you hear anything about Android versions, might be useful for people to know?
Cheers
Looks here...
http://mpd.wikia.com/wiki/Clients (http://mpd.wikia.com/wiki/Clients)
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Looks here...
http://mpd.wikia.com/wiki/Clients (http://mpd.wikia.com/wiki/Clients)
Thank you, but that was not the question, I know there are clients, the question was, in the BDP-1 owner's manual it states that the Bryston 'mini' app will run on Android version 1.5 OR 2.2, so does that preclude all other releases as most small tablets seem to run Android 1.6/2.1?
Cheers
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Hi james
You could put in the hard disk Bryston system to show the covers to mpod, like apache?
Thanks
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Hi James, do you have any idea of a ball park price (I know we will then have an up-lift in rip-off-britain)?
Also did you hear anything about Android versions, might be useful for people to know?
Cheers
Hi Alpha,
No sorry no pricing yet - a lot will depend on the drives choosen. The software enguneeer says he has not tested the Android units yet.
james
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I ripped all my cds to an external usb drive a couple years ago to use with the ipod/wadia combo.
the format was apple lossless (mp4a). I know the BDP-1 is compatible, my questions are"
"Is there any sonic difference, or sonic benefit to be gained from re-ripping to flac?"
and
"Is there any sonic benefit (for playback for BDP-1) in upsampling to higher rez when transcribing analog to digital?"
thanks!
Jim
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I ripped all my cds to an external usb drive a couple years ago to use with the ipod/wadia combo.
the format was apple lossless (mp4a). I know the BDP-1 is compatible, my questions are"
"Is there any sonic difference, or sonic benefit to be gained from re-ripping to flac?"
and
"Is there any sonic benefit (for playback for BDP-1) in upsampling to higher rez when transcribing analog to digital?"
thanks!
Jim
Hi Jim - - No advantage to upsampling in my opinion. The only issue I have had with mp4a is lack of album art which i do not have with Flac.
james
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Hi Jim - - No advantage to upsampling in my opinion. The only issue I have had with mp4a is lack of album art which i do not have with Flac.
james
You can add album art to the mp4a. iTunes and other like players might optimize storing the artwork outside of the file to speed up scrolling through the albums. For iTunes, all you need to do is "copy" the artwork and "paste" it back to the album, there's probably other applications that will do that as well
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Hello all; I'm running a Mac Mini with an external HD feeding my DAC and I have a question regarding file management. I usually back up my HD from the master iTunes file on my iMac over my home network using a program called ChronoSync which does this automatically on a daily basis, keeping both libraries in sync. This is easily done over the network, without having to unplug the HD and then plug it into the iMac then back again. Would I be able to do this with the HD plugged into the BDP-1?
Alternatively, if the HD is plugged into the BDP-1 and I plug a USB thumb drive onto another port, could I use the BDP-1 to transfer the files from the USB thumb drive to the attached HD? Or, could I do this by accessing the BDP-1 over my home network and manually transfer the files?
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Hello all; I'm running a Mac Mini with an external HD feeding my DAC and I have a question regarding file management. I usually back up my HD from the master iTunes file on my iMac over my home network using a program called ChronoSync which does this automatically on a daily basis, keeping both libraries in sync. This is easily done over the network, without having to unplug the HD and then plug it into the iMac then back again. Would I be able to do this with the HD plugged into the BDP-1?
Alternatively, if the HD is plugged into the BDP-1 and I plug a USB thumb drive onto another port, could I use the BDP-1 to transfer the files from the USB thumb drive to the attached HD? Or, could I do this by accessing the BDP-1 over my home network and manually transfer the files?
Hi,
I am not sure on the sync function but you can transfer a file from any of the attached harddrives 'over the network' to any other attached drive as long as the drive is formatted FAT32.
james
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As I do not have an iPad I was looking at a small (7") tablet PC with wifi, so I could use Mini, but most I have looked at run Android 1.6 and the user guide for the BDP-1 says Android 1.5 OR Android 2.2, does that mean these tablets will not work?
Cheers
Hi,
I spoke with our software engineer and Android 2.1 and up will work but we recommend using the Zirco Browser (available on Android market Place -http://market.android.com/search?q=zirco).
We are going to test the Samsung Galaxy Tablet as soon as I can get a hold of one.
james
Tested the Galaxy Tablet last night and it works with the Bryston Mini application - will do more tests.
james
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We are going to test the Samsung Galaxy Tablet as soon as I can get a hold of one.
james
Should be easy to find as they aren't flying off the shelves..
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Should be easy to find as they aren't flying off the shelves..
Got one :D
james
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Here is a good read about Computer Audiophile Ripping Strategy and Methodology.
http://www.computeraudiophile.com/content/Computer-Audiophile-CD-Ripping-Strategy-and-Methodology
Larry
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Hi,
I spoke with our software engineer and Android 2.1 and up will work but we recommend using the Zirco Browser (available on Android market Place -http://market.android.com/search?q=zirco).
We are going to test the Samsung Galaxy Tablet as soon as I can get a hold of one.
james
Tested the Galaxy Tablet last night and it works with the Bryston Mini application - will do more tests.
james
I have used Bryston Max and Mini successfully on three Android tablets (all ViewSonic) using the default browsers:
ViewPad7 - 7” running Froyo (2.2)
ViewPad10s - 10” running Froyo (2.2)
Viewpad10 - 10” (dualboot) running Donut (1.6) and Windows 7
All suffer the same issues of not scrolling down a playlist, but then this also occurs with most desktop browsers (I’m hoping this will be fixed in a future FW release but it’s not a big issue as there are alternatives). For the most part they run OK and certainly sufficiently well for basic control of the BDP-1.
Regards
Russell
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I have used Bryston Max and Mini successfully on three Android tablets (all ViewSonic) using the default browsers:
ViewPad7 - 7” running Froyo (2.2)
ViewPad10s - 10” running Froyo (2.2)
Viewpad10 - 10” (dualboot) running Donut (1.6) and Windows 7
All suffer the same issues of not scrolling down a playlist, but then this also occurs with most desktop browsers (I’m hoping this will be fixed in a future FW release but it’s not a big issue as there are alternatives). For the most part they run OK and certainly sufficiently well for basic control of the BDP-1.
Regards
Russell
Hi Russell,
I tried the Tablet last night and it worked well with Bryston Mini. Are there any MPD Linux apps you know of that can run on Android operating system?
I downloaded Firefox for Android but it does not appear to be able to aquire Minion app.
james
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Hi Folks,
Well the Samsung Galaxy Tablet works really well with the BDP-1 using MPDroid. Looks like the standard Android Music Player except controls MPD.
Log on to the internet and go to the 'MARKET' icon on the Galaxy Tablet desktop and download the 'MPDROID APP (its free) by searching 'MPD'
Works great. :thumb:
james
PS - currently need to put the IP Address in HOST (not- bryston-bdp-1.local)
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Hi Russell,
I tried the Tablet last night and it worked well with Bryston Mini. Are there any MPD Linux apps you know of that can run on Android operating system?
I downloaded Firefox for Android but it does not appear to be able to aquire Minion app.
james
Hi James,
I found two that I like, the first is MPDroid as you state above and the second is Droid MPD Client. Both seem to work quite well and Droid MPD Client also uses LastFM for Album and Artist data (similar to mPod for the Apple devices) and links to Amazon and YouTube for additional information.
Regards
Russell
EDIT: Yes, I also found that I must use the IP address...
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MEMO: To All Bryston Customers
SUBJECT: Samsung Galaxy Tablet – Android OS
Feb 2011
Hi Folks,
Another device you can use to control the Bryston BDP-1 Digital Player is the ‘Samsung Galaxy Tablet’ running the (2.2) Android operating system.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=43214)
The BDP-1 works well using the ‘MPDroid’ music player interface. Looks like the standard Android music player except controls Linux MPD.
Log on to the internet and go to the 'MARKET' icon on the Galaxy Tablet desktop and download the 'MPDROID APP (it’s free) by searching 'MPD'
NOTE: - currently need to put the IP Address in HOST (not- bryston-bdp-1.local)
(The Tablet will also run the Bryston ‘MINI’ application and we recommend using the Android Zirco Browser (available free on Android Market Place. http://market.android.com/search?q=zirco.)
James Tanner
Bryston
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James or anyone who knows,
my computer's motherboard has 2 ethernet ports. one port is connected to the router. can i use the other port to connect it to the BDP-1 :scratch:?
al.
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James or anyone who knows,
my computer's motherboard has 2 ethernet ports. one port is connected to the router. can i use the other port to connect it to the BDP-1 :scratch:?
al.
Yes it is possible that will work but configuration might be more difficult than you want to endure. You would have to set up your computer as a bridge between two networks and if your router is a wireless router, any wireless device might not see it. Also, you might need a unique crossover Ethernet cable between the computer and the BDP-1.
If you are out of Ethernet ports on your router pick up an Ethernet switch and connect that to the router and your computer and BDP to the switch. The most difficult part is the physical aspect of plugging in the cables. BTW, I actually prefer the dell business models for ethernet switches, no wallwart, and on sale over the weekends when business are most likely closed :)
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James or anyone who knows,
my computer's motherboard has 2 ethernet ports. one port is connected to the router. can i use the other port to connect it to the BDP-1 :scratch:?
al.
Hi Al,
Normally you would use one of the Ethernet OUTPUTS from the Router into the BDP-1. Speaking with engineering they say the way you're suggesting is possible but you have two concerns doing it that way:
1. Addressing the 2 separate Ethernet ports on the computer so there is no interfearence.
2. You would have to use an Ethernet 'crossover cable' between the Computer and the BDP-1 (not a straigt through cable)
james
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MEMO: To All Bryston Customers
SUBJECT: Samsung Galaxy Tablet – Android OS
Feb 2011
Hi Folks,
Another device you can use to control the Bryston BDP-1 Digital Player is the ‘Samsung Galaxy Tablet’ running the (2.2) Android operating system.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=43214)
The BDP-1 works well using the ‘MPDroid’ music player interface. Looks like the standard Android music player except controls Linux MPD.
Log on to the internet and go to the 'MARKET' icon on the Galaxy Tablet desktop and download the 'MPDROID APP (it’s free) by searching 'MPD'
NOTE: - currently need to put the IP Address in HOST (not- bryston-bdp-1.local)
(The Tablet will also run the Bryston ‘MINI’ application and we recommend using the Android Zirco Browser (available free on Android Market Place. http://market.android.com/search?q=zirco.)
James Tanner
Bryston
Newsflash: Galaxy Tablets flying off the shelves!
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ok, guys. thanks!
and James: i like the word 'interfearence' because an interference can indeed become an interfearence :wink:.
al.
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Hi Folks,
Some screen shots for you of the MPod App from MAC on iTouch, iPhone, and iPad with the BDP-1 Digital Player:
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=43250)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=43251)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=43252)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=43253)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=43254)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=43255)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=43256)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=43267)
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I have two Blackberries but no iAnything.
:dunno:
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MPOD Setup with BDP-1:
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=43263)
james
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James, does the last.fm work with the BDP-1.. I thought that was an online radio streaming service?
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James, does the last.fm work with the BDP-1.. I thought that was an online radio streaming service?
Hi,
Yes it works for me in terms of supplying me with the artist info - I have never tried the radio streaming part :scratch:
james
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This comment raises a couple of questions I have.
1. Can the BDP-1 somehow accommodate streaming radio stations now or in the future?
2. For those with BDP-1 now what do you do for streaming radio?
I am currently using the Apple TV2 as an interim solution until I get a music player or server.
On my short list besides BDP-1 + BDA-1 are the Linn Majik, PS Audio PWD + Bridge card and Meridian Media Core 200
The Majik, PWD, and MC200 all incorporate streaming radio.
Other suggestions?
Al
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Set up Screen for BDP-1 on GNOME Music Player on PC:
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=43295)
james
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Music Player Minion - BDP-1 Setup:
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=43296)
james
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The missing screen:
(http://)
Nap. :lol:
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The missing screen:
(http://)
Nap. :lol:
:thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
james
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:thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
james
But doesn't the controls in this screen make no difference on a BDP-1?
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Just come back from the Bristol Audio Show where the UK distributor, PMC, were domoing two BDP-1s.
I spoke to one of the PMC guys and he seemed very knowledgeable concerning how to use the player.
But I reckon he could do with some help connecting to the attached thumb drives from a networked PC.
That isn't covered in the manual.
I also spoke to the guy on the Chord cable stand who thought the unit was great when he visited the PMC factory last week.
Paul Messenger of HiFi Critic magazine seemed enthusiastic too.
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Just come back from the Bristol Audio Show where the UK distributor, PMC, were domoing two BDP-1s.
I spoke to one of the PMC guys and he seemed very knowledgeable concerning how to use the player.
But I reckon he could do with some help connecting to the attached thumb drives from a networked PC.
That isn't covered in the manual.
I also spoke to the guy on the Chord cable stand who thought the unit was great when he visited the PMC factory last week.
Paul Messenger of HiFi Critic magazine seemed enthusiastic too.
Hi Terry,
What was the system they had setup?
james
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Hi Terry,
What was the system they had setup?
james
James,
They had 2 rooms. Both rooms had identical Bryston electronics, albeit in different colours: BDP-1/BP26/4B SST2.
And PMC Fact 3 standmounts & PB1i Signature floorstanders.
I was impressed - and I placed my order! Which shall be with me in 10 days.
Kyri
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James,
They had 2 rooms. Both rooms had identical Bryston electronics, albeit in different colours: BDP-1/BP26/4B SST2.
And PMC Fact 3 standmounts & PB1i Signature floorstanders.
I was impressed - and I placed my order! Which shall be with me in 10 days.
Kyri
Thanks - What did you order?
james
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Hi Terry,
What was the system they had setup?
james
They had the DAC, Pre-amp and power amps and PMC speakers but didn't take too much notice as I was only interested in the BDP-1
Ask Tom from PMC, he'll know
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James,
The BDP-1, of course!
Kyri
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...does the BDP-1 support random-play :roll:??
al.
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...does the BDP-1 support random-play :roll:??
al.
Hi al,
It will depend on the interface Player you use - Minion, IPoD, Gnome, MPDroid etc. will :thumb:
james
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I have had the BDP-1 for a month now. The hardware side is fine (superior to USB/SPDIF computer streaming), but the user interface is rather poor making the BDP-1 a highly recommended product at this time rather dubious. I have a rather large music library of high resolution audio and redbook CD's. All music's stored with FLAC compression on 2 TB WD Caviar Black or Barracudda XT SATA NTSF formated hard disks (the drives hold idential information - redundancy is for back-up). The current library of music is 780 GB. I was hoping to use my iPad, but the Bryston MAX does not allow for scrolling of files on the iPad. So I use a MacBook Air running FireFox and have experimented with Minion, MPod, Theremin, and Bryston MAX. I like have album art show with the song or album being played, and in that respect the Bryston MAX is best. Those that link to outside avenues such as Amazon or Last FM fail to show album art about 25% of the time. The Bryston MAX client interface fails on the iPad, is horribly sluggish, constantly refreshing, and will occasionally freeze needing a reboot. There is no ability to search and scroll by artist or album. With large files, this is essential. Theremin has a clean interface and loads a file on the computer of the music library. It is quick and responsive and allows for a variety of search options. It fails is album artwork and refressing the database after adding new music files crashes the program (the work around is to delete the Thermin file of the music library - it will create a new one upon opening the program). Minion is good and similar to Theremin (but no artwork). MPoD is good, however the same problem with artwork. The upcoming MPaD version may be very good. My problem with the BDP-1 is implementation of the user interface. This is so critical for this type of product. Users are left with undesirable lesser of the evil options. This makes music listening a rather arduous rather than enjoyable experience. The Bryston MAX client needs to be more like the Theremin library and load a copy of the library onto the computer for speed. One should be able to edit playlists (delete a song). I find with the MAX it is very easy to inadvertently duplicate a song and when this happens deep into a playlist, one needs to start over. The album art feature of MAX is great and should stay. The interface needs to be searchable by song, artist, album, genre, year, or by album art. The occasional freezing of MAX is not acceptable. Also, one should have the ability to return to the spot of departure (lets say the M's instead of have to restart at the top of the music library list). Unless I am missing something, the BDP-1 is a tweaky piece of gear sue to poorly implemented interface. I really like to remote interfaces for MediaMonkey and SqeezeCenter - they made discovery of "lost" gems a pleasure and a time of rediscovery. The advantages of the BDP-1 over computer or server based streaming are enormous and its hardware performance is outstanding. The user interface leaves me cold and frustrated. I hope there are plans soon to have an interface than makes discovery of ones music collection enjoyable. The interface to the end user will trump all technology otherwise developed.
On a side note, the BDP-1 connects to my Classe SSP-800 via S/PDIF. The Classe SSP-800 has an info screen reporting data input. With high resolution files (up to 192 kHz), it often reports 48 kHz. This is not the case with high resolution feeds from my Classe CDT-300 via S/PDIF or the Oppo BDP-93 via HDMI. I called Bryston in regards to this, and was told to expect a return call with some insight on this. A week later - no call returned. any ideas out there on what might be occurring?
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Hi Ned,
Yes it sounds like you would be better off with a computer based system using Media Monkey or other Music Players that offer a lot of the features you're after. By the way MAX will scroll on your iPad but you have to use TWO fingers as it is a window within a window.
I realize that the BDP-1 is not for everyone and that the priority for us was state of the art music playback which for some in not enough. It is first and foremost a PLAYER. The advantage of the MINI and MAX is they use a web-browser so lots of products can interface - the disadvantage is they are slower than specific MPD Apps that are much quicker to respond. We are certainly working on making the MINI and MAX more user accesable but the original purpose of the MINI and MAX was to provide our customers with a back-up interface rather than re-inventing another music player because there are so many new music player interfaces coming out on the market - example the new IPAD interface for Linux MPD- is superb. http://www.katoemba.net/makesnosenseatall/mpad/
As for the Oppo as well as other players we have looked at the SPDIF is limited to 48K whereas the HDMI can do 192. I can tell you the BDP-1 has no issues with outputting 192k
james
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James,
Another unit I saw at the Bristol show over the wekend was the Meridian Sooloos.
I played with their iPAD interface and it was rather nice, to say the least.
May I STRONGLY recommend that you get your Canadian Beavers to look at the Meridian iPAD interface when they come to creating a new release?
Terry
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This new interface will be excellent for the MPaD group:
http://www.katoemba.net/makesnosenseatall/2011/01/04/mpad-screencast/
http://www.katoemba.net/makesnosenseatall/mpad/
james
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On a side note, the BDP-1 connects to my Classe SSP-800 via S/PDIF. The Classe SSP-800 has an info screen reporting data input. With high resolution files (up to 192 kHz), it often reports 48 kHz. This is not the case with high resolution feeds from my Classe CDT-300 via S/PDIF or the Oppo BDP-93 via HDMI. I called Bryston in regards to this, and was told to expect a return call with some insight on this. A week later - no call returned. any ideas out there on what might be occurring?
Hi
I do agree that the interface is a work in progess but its still functions and i get all my artwork on my itouch.
I notice that on that class ssp-800 the coax is only tracking at 96khz tops. Its probably reporting incorrectly due to the truncating function of the coax. All my files on the bdp seem to respond on my bda correctly. Those being 192,96,88 and 48. I have yet to see it slip up.
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James,
my dealer told me that the BDP-1 needs up to 80 hours for break in. true?
al.
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James,
my dealer told me that the BDP-1 needs up to 80 hours for break in. true?
al.
I would say if it does not sound good when you first turn it on then something is wrong :nono: As it warms up it tends to sound more spacious and more coherent.
james
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Hi Ned,
Yes it sounds like you would be better off with a computer based system using Media Monkey or other Music Players that offer a lot of the features you're after. By the way MAX will scroll on your iPad but you have to use TWO fingers as it is a window within a window.
I realize that the BDP-1 is not for everyone and that the priority for us was state of the art music playback which for some in not enough. It is first and foremost a PLAYER. The advantage of the MINI and MAX is they use a web-browser so lots of products can interface - the disadvantage is they are slower than specific MPD Apps that are much quicker to respond. We are certainly working on making the MINI and MAX more user accesable but the original purpose of the MINI and MAX was to provide our customers with a back-up interface rather than re-inventing another music player because there are so many new music player interfaces coming out on the market - example the new IPAD interface for Linux MPD- is superb. http://www.katoemba.net/makesnosenseatall/mpad/
As for the Oppo as well as other players we have looked at the SPDIF is limited to 48K whereas the HDMI can do 192. I can tell you the BDP-1 has no issues with outputting 192k
james
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I cannot seem to get a quote added in, but in response to my prior post, the reason I got the BDP-1 was for state of the art audio playback. I was a bit taken back with the response that this was not for me. $2100 down the drain? The interfaceshould be commensurate with the price of entry. There are a lot of computer interface options, and none hasbeen as perfect in playback as the BDP-1. The owner looking for outstanding playback of music files should expect a good playback interface. Yes, the Meridian options is much mores costly, but I would venture that the BDP-1 is the better options. Too late to turn the BDP-1 in regardless of the suggestion. I am eagerly awaiting the new mPaD client interface. Regarding the Classe SSP-800 issue I raised, the Oppo BDP-93 via HDMI and S/PDIF and Classe CDT-300 via S/PDIF reports up to 192 kHz on the Classe SSP-800 input info page. As suggested above, the Classe is likely incorrectly reporting output from the BDP-1 as the high resolution files sound as I would expect without truncation through the BDP-1. Please do not think as I am being defensive or have mean will, I urge the envelope be pushed on this otherwise remarkable audio product.
Cheers,
Ned
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I cannot seem to get a quote added in, but in response to my prior post, the reason I got the BDP-1 was for state of the art audio playback. I was a bit taken back with the response that this was not for me. $2100 down the drain? The interfaceshould be commensurate with the price of entry. There are a lot of computer interface options, and none hasbeen as perfect in playback as the BDP-1. The owner looking for outstanding playback of music files should expect a good playback interface. Yes, the Meridian options is much mores costly, but I would venture that the BDP-1 is the better options. Too late to turn the BDP-1 in regardless of the suggestion. I am eagerly awaiting the new mPaD client interface. Regarding the Classe SSP-800 issue I raised, the Oppo BDP-93 via HDMI and S/PDIF and Classe CDT-300 via S/PDIF reports up to 192 kHz on the Classe SSP-800 input info page. As suggested above, the Classe is likely incorrectly reporting output from the BDP-1 as the high resolution files sound as I would expect without truncation through the BDP-1. Please do not think as I am being defensive or have mean will, I urge the envelope be pushed on this otherwise remarkable audio product.
Cheers,
Ned
Hi Ned,
In the top right hand area of the post you will see the word QUOTE. Just click on that and then make sure you add your comments below the word Quote that comes up in the text window.
james
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I cannot seem to get a quote added in, but in response to my prior post, the reason I got the BDP-1 was for state of the art audio playback. I was a bit taken back with the response that this was not for me. $2100 down the drain? The interfaceshould be commensurate with the price of entry. There are a lot of computer interface options, and none hasbeen as perfect in playback as the BDP-1. The owner looking for outstanding playback of music files should expect a good playback interface. Yes, the Meridian options is much mores costly, but I would venture that the BDP-1 is the better options. Too late to turn the BDP-1 in regardless of the suggestion. I am eagerly awaiting the new mPaD client interface. Regarding the Classe SSP-800 issue I raised, the Oppo BDP-93 via HDMI and S/PDIF and Classe CDT-300 via S/PDIF reports up to 192 kHz on the Classe SSP-800 input info page. As suggested above, the Classe is likely incorrectly reporting output from the BDP-1 as the high resolution files sound as I would expect without truncation through the BDP-1. Please do not think as I am being defensive or have mean will, I urge the envelope be pushed on this otherwise remarkable audio product.
Cheers,
Ned
Sorry Ned I did not mean to come across as disrespectful or condescending – I was just trying to make the point for any future buyers that the BDP-1 is not for those wanting an ‘all in one’ solution for digital MANAGEMENT – it is a PLAYER and the idea was to totally separate the Management side of the equation from the Playback side.
I just worry and I'm concerned that our customers are not disappointed and I try to make the Player point as often as I can so as not to mislead.
My apology if I offended you.
James
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Regarding the interface for managing the music library attached to the BDP-1, I think it is important that some thought goes into initially setting up the library with logical folders. I have mine set up by /genre/artist/album/song and I think it is easy to find the music that I want to listen to or create a playlist. I was somewhat concerned with the interface prior to getting my BDP-1 but I have found it to be a non-issue. It is all about the sound...
Tony
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Regarding the interface for managing the music library attached to the BDP-1, I think it is important that some thought goes into initially setting up the library with logical folders. I have mine set up by /genre/artist/album/song and I think it is easy to find the music that I want to listen to or create a playlist. I was somewhat concerned with the interface prior to getting my BDP-1 but I have found it to be a non-issue. It is all about the sound...
Tony
Good point Tony - I arrange my folders by Artist and it works great. :thumb:
james
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There is an excellent treatise that addresses, albeit indirectly, the issue at hand by CP Snow titled Two Cultures regarding sciences and humanities. The BDP-1 addressees the science, the human interface is the humanity. The two are intertwined and should be considered one and the same. A rich interface enhances the listening experience. I would not have invested in a very expensive uppper level Dynaudio speaker system with Mark Levinson and Audio Research amplifiers because I did not care about music. Performance is fine, but I do not see Bryston offering any item with highly researched performance to leave the owner to find their own power supply or DAC chip to enable the equipment. Don't leave the human out of the equation!
Ned
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Good point Tony - I arrange my folders by Artist and it works great. :thumb:
james
I agree that having a highly organized system is important. All of my files are by artist, but to use an absurd examples, what if you remember an album (Dark Side of the Moon), but not the artist (Pink Floyd) or a song (So What), but not artist (Miles Davis). Large music libraries require multiple search capabilities.
Ned
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I agree that having a highly organized system is important. All of my files are by artist, but to use an absurd examples, what if you remember an album (Dark Side of the Moon), but not the artist (Pink Floyd) or a song (So What), but not artist (Miles Davis). Large music libraries require multiple search capabilities.
Ned
Ned,
I agree with you that these questions may come up but remember that you are using a device with a browser to communicate with the BDP-1. Google or Wikipedia can easily answer any of these type questions and realistically speaking, I don't think they come up very often. I am sitting in my office and I just sent the "command" to my BDP-1 in another room to play the Miles Davis album "Kind of Blue". I choose to be happy as I listen to Miles Davis and "So What".
Tony
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Ned,
I agree with you that these questions may come up but remember that you are using a device with a browser to communicate with the BDP-1. Google or Wikipedia can easily answer any of these type questions and realistically speaking, I don't think they come up very often. I am sitting in my office and I just sent the "command" to my BDP-1 in another room to play the Miles Davis album "Kind of Blue". I choose to be happy as I listen to Miles Davis and "So What".
Tony
Brilliant, but what about the non-tech savvy user that loves music and expects the best from his/her catalogue? I am looking out at the worst case example of a high-end non-tech BDP-1 user. I would dare stake a bet that most users are not going to Google for their music. I would never do the same for financial information for my company, I expect the information as presented from finances to be in order and absolutely correct and surchable within the reports. Why should that be so different for music I own (yes I buy CD's and am a big fan of HD Tracks). Not to be met as a challenge, just a comment.
Cheers, Ned
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I think with the proper feedback, James and Bryston will have to consider it.
For example, they might not have control over the various mpd client even though it's an open source based solution. It doesn't mean that they can't improve upon the BDP webpage. Also feed back like having to delete a key file if you add more music to a thumbdrive or disk drive is something Bryston can improve on.
Perhaps Bryston can send out a survey to all the new owners and find out what the popular clients folks are using and either donate funds or a BDP to one or two of the client developers with our feedback.
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the new IPAD interface for Linux MPD- is superb. http://www.katoemba.net/makesnosenseatall/mpad/
james
MPad is available now :thumb:
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MPad is available now :thumb:
Works great folks - go to the APPs store on the iPad and search for MPAD and download - $2.99
james
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MEMO: BDP-1 INTERFACE
SUBJECT: MPad
March, 2011
Hi Folks,
There is a great new interface for the Bryston BDP-1 Digital Player available.
On your iPad go to the APP Store and search for ‘MPaD’. Download the app to the iPad desktop – costs $2.99. MPaD Icon (green) will appear on your desktop.
Set-up:
1. Open the MPaD icon
2. Touch the gear shaped icon at the top of the page in the middle
3. Name - BDP-1
4. Server – Bryston-bdp-1.local
5. Port - 6600
It works great with the BDP-1
ENJOY!
James Tanner
Bryston
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The MPaD program is brilliant. The is the client interface that was needed all along. I did have a few issues with initial setup and had to do repeated refreshes of the local database to finally get the program up and running. So if your entire library does not lad, keep hitting refresh local data base in the settings window until all loads. If you own the BDP-1 and you don't have an iPad, now is the reason to buy one! :icon_lol:
Ned
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James,
are there any other colours than aqua blue available for the display?
al.
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James,
are there any other colours than aqua blue available for the display?
al.
Green
james
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Green
james
ok. could you please post a pic of these two colours...? i ordered a green display and what i got is aqua blue? just want to make sure...
al.
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ok. could you please post a pic of these two colours...? i ordered a green display and what i got is aqua blue? just want to make sure...
al.
Hi al
Ok I will have to take some pictures on Monday
James
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thank you very much!
al.
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If you own the BDP-1 and you don't have an iPad, now is the reason to buy one! :icon_lol:
Ned
I've been patiently waiting for Apple to announce their new BDP-1 remote, now with the Mpad app I really can't wait till March 25th :)
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I've downloaded MPad today and it looks great but I've found an possible issue.
I have my own non-commercial music on a USB memory stick connected to the BDP-1
MPaD sees the music but dosn't display the album art
I have used Mp3tag to insert an image into the matadata of the FLAC files and there is a Folder.jpg in the directory where the music is but no cover image in MPad. What I am I doing wrong?
I do see cover art for commercial music on the memory stick though.
Thanks,
Terry
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I've been patiently waiting for Apple to announce their new BDP-1 remote, now with the Mpad app I really can't wait till March 25th :)
What's the Apple BDP-1 remote and what happens on 25th March?
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What's the Apple BDP-1 remote and what happens on 25th March?
IPad 2 gets released.
James
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What's the Apple BDP-1 remote and what happens on 25th March?
The iPad 2 is released - dual processor with much faster graphics, thinner and lighter than the original iPad. The Apple BDP-1 remote is likely the MPaD client interface for MPD players (BDP-1 is one example) avaialble through the Apple store.
Ned
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I've downloaded MPad today and it looks great but I've found an possible issue.
I have my own non-commercial music on a USB memory stick connected to the BDP-1
MPaD sees the music but dosn't display the album art
I have used Mp3tag to insert an image into the matadata of the FLAC files and there is a Folder.jpg in the directory where the music is but no cover image in MPad. What I am I doing wrong?
I do see cover art for commercial music on the memory stick though.
Thanks,
Terry
In settings there is a line to specify a directory holding jpg files. Don't know if it owrks. I do wish MPD would allow retrieval of embedded data in flac files. Perhaps in a future release of MPD server.
Ned
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Apple stores in the US are to start selling the iPad2 on March 11 @ 5:00pm.
Tony
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In settings there is a line to specify a directory holding jpg files. Don't know if it owrks. I do wish MPD would allow retrieval of embedded data in flac files. Perhaps in a future release of MPD server.
Ned
I saw that Ned.
It seems to be an entry for a Web address?
Terry
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You are right - I did not look at it close enough. Sorry :cry:
Ned
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You are right - I did not look at it close enough. Sorry :cry:
Ned
It must work somehow as it allows you to specify a name for the jpg
It just seems to be igoring it
MPoD behaves in a similar way
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This is the problem with MPD server and client software. Album covers are downloaded from Amazon with MPaD. There are a number of esoteric albums I own without covers showing although they were tagged in when ripped in Media Monkey to flac files. I hope this will change down the road. There is quite a bit of ongoing development with MPD and I believe some of this is to support covers. Once the BDP-1 will read NTFS formatted drives, this situation might also improve (?). I hope this information is accurate, but it what I seem to understand from my reading on the MPD website. Got to love public domain software and I have faith something will come about sooner than later.
Ned
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This is the problem with MPD server and client software. Album covers are downloaded from Amazon with MPaD. There are a number of esoteric albums I own without covers showing although they were tagged in when ripped in Media Monkey to flac files. I hope this will change down the road. There is quite a bit of ongoing development with MPD and I believe some of this is to support covers. Once the BDP-1 will read NTFS formatted drives, this situation might also improve (?). I hope this information is accurate, but it what I seem to understand from my reading on the MPD website. Got to love public domain software and I have faith something will come about sooner than later.
Ned
Cheers Ned
I dropped a line on MPaD's web site, maybe he'll come up with something, hopefully
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Hi al
Ok I will have to take some pictures on Monday
James
Hi Al,
Heres a shot of mine at home.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=43680)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=43681)
james
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Cheers Ned
I dropped a line on MPaD's web site, maybe he'll come up with something, hopefully
Here is an explanation of the cover art issue: http://www.katoemba.net/makesnosenseatall/2011/03/05/cover-art-in-mpod-and-mpad/ (http://www.katoemba.net/makesnosenseatall/2011/03/05/cover-art-in-mpod-and-mpad/)
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thanks, James.
now is your display 'Bryston-green' or the 'Bryston-blue' ?
al.
p.s.: what is that thing on top of your BDP ?
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Hello.
I used mapad all day and I must say it has solved the main problem was the bdp1, is really very nice.
Would only solve the problem of cover for the collections that are not on the database amazon.
In use, turn off every time I search by artist, but they are teething problems.
When the next release of firmware will solve the problem of waiting times our bdp1 will be perfect.
Could you explain something?
What will change when the bdp1 will work with NTFS hard drives?
I originally had hd NTFS and read them, what will serve the possibility of writing?
Thanks and sorry again for my bad English
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thanks, James.
now is your display 'Bryston-green' or the 'Bryston-blue' ?
al.
p.s.: what is that thing on top of your BDP ?
Hi al,
I have 3 BDP-1 units at home :oops: - 2 green and 1 blue.
The 'thing' on top is the electronic crossover for the Sanders electrostatic speakers.
james
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Hello.
I used mapad all day and I must say it has solved the main problem was the bdp1, is really very nice.
Would only solve the problem of cover for the collections that are not on the database amazon.
In use, turn off every time I search by artist, but they are teething problems.
When the next release of firmware will solve the problem of waiting times our bdp1 will be perfect.
Could you explain something?
What will change when the bdp1 will work with NTFS hard drives?
I originally had hd NTFS and read them, what will serve the possibility of writing?
Thanks and sorry again for my bad English
Hi pimandro
We are looking at the NTSF 'writing' for the next software release.
james
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I can not understand what it's for the chance to write on NTFS using the bdp1.
What should I write?
Thanks for the reply
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I can not understand what it's for the chance to write on NTFS using the bdp1.
What should I write?
Thanks for the reply
Hi primando,
If you want to transfer a file over the home network to an attached USB drive on the BDP-1 then the usb drive has to be formatted FAT32.
Most USB Thumb Drives come formatted FAT32 already but USB Harddrives are usually formatted NTSF and have to be reformatted to FAT32 (easy to do) if you want to use them as a destination drive on your BDP-1.
james
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Thanks james.
Now I understand
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Hi al,
I have 3 BDP-1 units at home :oops: - 2 green and 1 blue.
The 'thing' on top is the electronic crossover for the Sanders electrostatic speakers.
james
James,
so the unit you took the picture of is a blue one?
al.
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James,
is it possible to show the time of the current played song on the display?
al.
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James,
is it possible to show the time of the current played song on the display?
al.
Hi al,
The time - NO - .... the current Song is always displayed as is the Artist
The time is shown on the interface used.
james
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James,
so the unit you took the picture of is a blue one?
al.
Top one is Green - bottom one is Blue.
james
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Hi al,
The time - NO - .... the current Song is always displayed as is the Artist
The time is shown on the interface used.
james
...and no chance to do it with a software update?
al.
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...and no chance to do it with a software update?
al.
Not that I know of - but hey I'm still learning. :) The front panel display is totally separate from the playback circuitry (including its own circuitry and power supply). So the front panel display would have to change software and interact with the playback circuitry.
james
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Here is an explanation of the cover art issue: http://www.katoemba.net/makesnosenseatall/2011/03/05/cover-art-in-mpod-and-mpad/ (http://www.katoemba.net/makesnosenseatall/2011/03/05/cover-art-in-mpod-and-mpad/)
Hi James,
Now that MPaD is the interface of choice, we can't get cover art if we're not connected to the internet and only then if Amazon have the artwork.
The link explains how to fix your BDP-1 firmware.
MPad only reads Folder.jpg if you make the fix suggested to the Bryston firmware.
How about getting your Beavers onto the job?
I entered bryston-bdp-1.local/player field and that didn't work
Thanks,
Terry
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MPod setup on the iTouch, iPhone and iPad
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=43753)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=43747)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=43748)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=43749)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=43750)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=43751)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=43752)
james
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Hi James,
Now that MPaD is the interface of choice, we can't get cover art if we're not connected to the internet and only then if Amazon have the artwork.
The link explains how to fix your BDP-1 firmware.
MPad only reads Folder.jpg if you make the fix suggested to the Bryston firmware.
How about getting your Beavers onto the job?
I entered bryston-bdp-1.local/player field and that didn't work
Thanks,
Terry
The URL I am referring to is the URL for album art
Terry
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James,
let's say someone has 2 BDP-1 at his home and both players are "on". now the person uses his iphone/pad/touch for remote service.
question: what can be done to avoid that both players react at the same time?
al.
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James,
let's say someone has 2 BDP-1 at his home and both players are "on". now the person uses his iphone/pad/touch for remote service.
question: what can be done to avoid that both players react at the same time?
al.
The Network would see them as BDP-1 and BDP-2.
james
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James,
let's say someone has 2 BDP-1 at his home and both players are "on". now the person uses his iphone/pad/touch for remote service.
question: what can be done to avoid that both players react at the same time?
al.
Would they not have different TCP/IP addresses?
You could distinquish them that way
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Would they not have different TCP/IP addresses?
You could distinquish them that way
Yes you can set a Static IP address through SETTINGS on the Bryston home page if you want.
james
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Hi pimandro
We are looking at the NTSF 'writing' for the next software release.
james
Hi James,
Any idea when the next software release will be available that will allow NTSF writing? Thanks.
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Hi James,
Any idea when the next software release will be available that will allow NTSF writing? Thanks.
Hi Vipers,
I would say a few months.
james
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Hi Vipers,
I would say a few months.
james
Thanks for the reply James, looks like I'd better re-format my HDD to FAT32 then to allow transfer of files over the network.
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Hi Vipers,
I would say a few months.
james
Hi James,
Any chance of a new thread to feed back issues that need fixing for next release?
For example...
Mini & Max and the overlapping tesxt issue at the top of the screen?
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Hi James,
Any chance of a new thread to feed back issues that need fixing for next release?
For example...
Mini & Max and the overlapping tesxt issue at the top of the screen?
Hi Terry,
I do not think there are enough issues with MAX and MINI to have a separate thread. MAX and MINI are web-based backup interfaces for our customers not really a replacement for a lot of the better interfaces out there already with many more to come given the LINUX operating system. We will continue to improve MAX and MINI of course as we go forward.
james
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Hello James, you have found a solution to the long time waiting to load hard disk?
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Hello James, you have found a solution to the long time waiting to load hard disk?
Hi - no - that's a tough one because the MINI and the MAX are web based so the load time is longer than a dedicated application like MPAD or Minion or Gnome which is a dedicated APP. The advantage of the web-browser is any web capable device can see it.
We are looking at programs that will allow MINI and MAX to run faster in the future but my recommendation for now is to use it when you are just managing a few hundred files rather than thousands.
james
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Sorry but I have not been clear.
I use mpad as an interface and I am very satisfied.
I refer to the time of loading external hard drive, which takes about 10 minutes to upload 800 gigabytes.
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I end up leaving my BDP on 24x7 because of that. It would be nice once you've updated the DB it would save it on that HDD so you won't have to go through that process each time and I can save a few watts. As for adding a new album to an existing library, the update does seem to be faster, but I think the time to parse all the files to see if they are new or not will take time.
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Sorry but I have not been clear.
I use mpad as an interface and I am very satisfied.
I refer to the time of loading external hard drive, which takes about 10 minutes to upload 800 gigabytes.
Sorry I misinterpreted your question. Yes I would leave one drive always connected and the BDP on. We are looking at speeding the load time faster but I can not give you a time line.
James
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If you can solve the bdp1 will be perfect
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If you can solve the bdp1 will be perfect
The MPaD/MPoD apps have a button to refresh the local cache.
Couldn't the BDP do the same?
After all the content is hardly changing on a frequent basis.
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The MPaD/MPoD apps have a button to refresh the local cache.
Couldn't the BDP do the same?
After all the content is hardly changing on a frequent basis.
This question has been asked on multiple occaisions, but still no solution or implemenation time-scale. It should be simple to implement.
1 - Scan the HDD
2 - Save the index as a file
3 - Read the index file on power-up (instead of rescanning the whole HDD).
4 - Only refresh/save the index upon input from the control panel (button press) or SW interface.
Regards
Russell
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hi, folks!
anyone out there who noticed droputs while playing songs with the BDP-1 ? i did :o. not too often but now and then it happens...
the connected hdd is a 2,5" WD. maybe i should try a hdd with an external power supply ?
any ideas anyone??
thanks,
al :scratch:.
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hi, folks!
anyone out there who noticed droputs while playing songs with the BDP-1 ? i did :o. not too often but now and then it happens...
the connected hdd is a 2,5" WD. maybe i should try a hdd with an external power supply ?
any ideas anyone??
thanks,
al :scratch:.
Hi Al,
No issues at my end - the USB powered 2.5 drive should not be a problem unless it is a really old one. I have about 6 Seagate 2.5 USB drives now ranging from 360TB to 750TB without issues.
james
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Any BDP-2 with internal DAC? :eyebrows:
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Any BDP-2 with internal DAC? :eyebrows:
No sorry .. no plans at all in that direction.
james
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hi, folks!
anyone out there who noticed droputs while playing songs with the BDP-1 ? i did :o. not too often but now and then it happens...
the connected hdd is a 2,5" WD. maybe i should try a hdd with an external power supply ?
Does it happen on the same track at the same point every time?
Mine plays perfectly BTW
Can't see an external PSU making any difference.
Do you get read errors when you use the hdd when it's attached to a PC?
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hi, folks!
anyone out there who noticed droputs while playing songs with the BDP-1 ? i did :o. not too often but now and then it happens...
the connected hdd is a 2,5" WD. maybe i should try a hdd with an external power supply ?
any ideas anyone??
thanks,
al :scratch:.
There have been a few notable glitches at the end of a few songs that is reproducible with my BDP/DAC combo. These songs play fine on other solutions, my next step will be to re-rip a CD when I find the time, I also plan to try a different DAC like the BDA.
I have noticed dropouts when i'm updating, syncing music and playing music on the same drive at the same time, but never have had a drop out while just playing back. I am using a WD, 750GB, 5400 RPM drive. As soon as Bryston sells a 4-bay HDD enclosure, i will be switching to SSDs (hint).
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This question has been asked on multiple occaisions, but still no solution or implemenation time-scale. It should be simple to implement.
1 - Scan the HDD
2 - Save the index as a file
3 - Read the index file on power-up (instead of rescanning the whole HDD).
4 - Only refresh/save the index upon input from the control panel (button press) or SW interface.
Regards
Russell
My software engineer tells me it is a bit more complicated because of the other jobs the current software must do and the way it integrates with the front panel software, but we will certainly look at what options are available going forward.
james
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Terry:
i remember one song where it happened twice or so. but NOT at the same point. weird, eh?! haven't tried the hdd with my PC yet...
Skunark:
i could try the SP2's coax. the problem is it is used in the sleeping room and i guess i am way too lazy to unplug it and so on and so on :oops:
James,
my hdd is 1tb. probably too much for the BDP?
al.
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hi, folks!
anyone out there who noticed droputs while playing songs with the BDP-1 ? i did :o. not too often but now and then it happens
Funny you should mention it, but I was listening to Adele's 21 the other night and I had a couple of small dropouts but just assumed the cd needed re-ripping, if it happens again I'll see if it is in the same place each time or random.
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The only time I experienced this was with the Bryston interface (max). It has never been a problem with the MPoD client. The two interfaces are different (I think). It is interesting that the best performance I get is with a 2 TB WD Caviar Black hard disk (a drive that should be way beyond what is needed, but it has a huge buffer). Also make sure the hard drives have been defragmented as this will improve performance.
Ned
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The only time I experienced this was with the Bryston interface (max). It has never been a problem with the MPoD client. The two interfaces are different (I think). It is interesting that the best performance I get is with a 2 TB WD Caviar Black hard disk (a drive that should be way beyond what is needed, but it has a huge buffer). Also make sure the hard drives have been defragmented as this will improve performance.
Ned
Good observation, now that i think about it, when i was syncing, updating and playing when the drop out occurred I was also selecting songs through the MAX webpage... so perhaps that needs to be tuned a bit more?
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I have had my BDP-1 for 3 months now and I have never experienced a dropout. I am running a SSD and thumbdrives. I have not used a HDD.
Tony
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Hi James & all,
I just picked up my new BDA-1 (17"-silver) with new buttons a few hours ago. So which setup sounds better, BDP-1 on top, or BDA-1 on top? Just kidding. :P
A really serious question is that I also got the BR2 remote this time. No problem coding it to use with the DAC because BR2 manual mentioned how to. I can't find the instruction anywhere on how use the remote with BDP-1 and do coding, though. Please help. Thank you.
Klao
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Hi James & all,
I just picked up my new BDA-1 (17"-silver) with new buttons a few hours ago. So which setup sounds better, BDP-1 on top, or BDA-1 on top? Just kidding. :P
A really serious question is that I also got the BR2 remote this time. No problem coding it to use with the DAC because BR2 manual mentioned how to. I can't find the instruction anywhere on how use the remote with BDP-1 and do coding, though. Please help. Thank you.
Klao
Hi Klao,
The BR2 DAC button has to be pushed to control the BDP-1.
james
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Oops! Thanks, James.
OK, it's working now. :duh:
Hi Klao,
The BR2 DAC button has to be pushed to control the BDP-1.
james
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James,
Should we engage the "upsample" button in the BDA-1 when playing files from BDP-1 whose resolutions are less than say 88KHz/24bit, or always on might be best no matter? Thanks.
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James,
Should we engage the "upsample" button in the BDA-1 when playing files from BDP-1 whose resolutions are less than say 88KHz/24bit, or always on might be best no matter? Thanks.
Tough one as there seems to be a 50/50 split on whether you should strictly play files in their Native resolution only. :scratch:
james
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Thank you, James. I think I'll just play them at native resolution. BTW, upgrading the firmware file you sent was successful. :thumb:
Another question: while the BPD-1 is still turn on, can we just unplug the thumb drive / HDD that the machine is not playing the files from?
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Thank you, James. I think I'll just play them at native resolution. BTW, upgrading the firmware file you sent was successful. :thumb:
Another question: while the BPD-1 is still turn on, can we just unplug the thumb drive / HDD that the machine is not playing the files from?
Hi klao
Yes you can unplug a USB and it will be removed from the menu on your interface and front panel display. You will have to refresh the interface to show that the drive was disconnected. Same for plugging in a new USB drive.
James
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James,
Should we engage the "upsample" button in the BDA-1 when playing files from BDP-1 whose resolutions are less than say 88KHz/24bit, or always on might be best no matter? Thanks.
Assuming it won't damage anything, what happens if you try it and if you do, can you hear a difference?
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Assuming it won't damage anything, what happens if you try it and if you do, can you hear a difference?
Yes it may cause serious impotency :lol:
james
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Yes it may cause serious impotency :lol:
james
What, Bryston ownership can seriously damage your health?
Or is that wealth??
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Hi Folks,
I have been asked to show the type of cables and connectors the BDP-1 utilizes:
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=42671)
AES-EBU 110 ohm Digital cable
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=42672)
BNC to BNC 75 ohm Digital Cable
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=42673)
BNC to RCA (COAX) Digital Cable
james
Hello Everyone,
New Bryston owner here. So far this week, I've got a new 4BSST2, a new B6 preamp, and a BDA-1 that is still on its way. So far, everything sounds fantastic (B&W 805 Nautilus speakers), although I'm only listening to some Vinyl so far. In any event, I suppose I'll buy a new BDP-1 in a few weeks. I want to have a library of lossless files loaded onto drives dedicated for playback though the BDP-1. My computers are an I-Mac and a MacBook Air.
Since I'm starting from scratch, what cables should I use to connect the BDP-1 to the external DAC? Price isn't an object, really. I just want what's best. I intend to connect the BDP-1 to my network via an ethernet cable, and control the whole thing via an IPAD or an IPod Touch.
Anything else I'm missing?
John
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MEMO: To All Bryston Customers
SUBJECT: Samsung Galaxy Tablet – Android OS
Feb 2011
Hi Folks,
Another device you can use to control the Bryston BDP-1 Digital Player is the ‘Samsung Galaxy Tablet’ running the (2.2) Android operating system.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=43214)
The BDP-1 works well using the ‘MPDroid’ music player interface. Looks like the standard Android music player except controls Linux MPD.
Log on to the internet and go to the 'MARKET' icon on the Galaxy Tablet desktop and download the 'MPDROID APP (it’s free) by searching 'MPD'
NOTE: - currently need to put the IP Address in HOST (not- bryston-bdp-1.local)
(The Tablet will also run the Bryston ‘MINI’ application and we recommend using the Android Zirco Browser (available free on Android Market Place. http://market.android.com/search?q=zirco.)
James Tanner
Bryston
Will this app "MPDROID" work on my Samsung galaxy cell phone (2.2 android)
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If I remember correctly, James said Bryston engineers seem to prefer AES/EBU over SPDIF for the BDP-1. I suppose this preference is based on some engineering principles rather than optimizing the AES/EBU output.
Basically, I wonder if same care were taken for both kinds of outputs in the BDP-1 when designing, choosing parts, and manufacturing the units. Along the same line, how about different digital inputs of the BDA-1?
Comments from the field from those who have tried both AES/EBU and SPDIF connections for the BDP-1 & BDA-1 combo would also be very much appreciated.
Thanks.
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Hi klao
Yes it is very important that attention be paid to the connections with digital gear. Digital signals operate at very high frequencies so the potential for signal reflection etc are significant. The BDA DAC has impedance matching transformers at the inputs to prevent problems and the outputs on the BDP are optimized as well.
The BNC connection is a true 75 Ohm connection and that's why we prefer it over COAX. So if you use a BNC cable with a BNC connection the signal path is predictable. The advantage of the AES EBU Digital connection is it has twice the voltage swing on it's output. The input devices really seem to like this.
So by all means give the BNC and AES a try with the BDP and see what you think. By the way the BNC cable and connectors should be 75 ohms and the AES should be 110 ohms. Available on our website if you have trouble finding some.
http://bryston.com/specsel.html
James
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hi, folks!
anyone out there who noticed droputs while playing songs with the BDP-1 ? i did :o. not too often but now and then it happens...
the connected hdd is a 2,5" WD. maybe i should try a hdd with an external power supply ?
any ideas anyone??
thanks,
al :scratch:.
Yes,I had this problem.If you use 1TB 2.5 drive,you'll need a double headed usb cable.Than your drive will suck power from both usb back connection.Using this cable eliminate any dropouts.
enjoy
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I experienced a couple of drop outs earlier this week.
I re-ripped the problem tracks/albums and bingo! All is now well.
Kyri
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mpv,
thanks for your reply. but just to make sure: are you using both usb inputs at the back of the BDP-1 with one single (two headed) usb cable that is connected with your external hdd??
i could imagine that this configuration could confuse the BDP-1?
al.
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mpv,
thanks for your reply. but just to make sure: are you using both usb inputs at the back of the BDP-1 with one single (two headed) usb cable that is connected with your external hdd??
i could imagine that this configuration could confuse the BDP-1?
al.
Hi Alex,
No it works fine and the only one confused is ME :scratch:
james
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James,
i think that the mentioned configuration is not the proper way to use the BDP-1?!
al.
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Technology despises me. This is not an observation, it is a fact.
The only thing that has not enraged me today is my beloved BDP-1.
I´ve been queuing up tunes since 11am. And, aside from time in the wee wee room I´ve been enjoying the re-evaluation of my music collection. Courtesy of my beautiful duo.
P.S: I may consider incontinence trousers, as a future aid!
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James,
i think that the mentioned configuration is not the proper way to use the BDP-1?!
al.
Al,believe me.....This solution is coming from James.He recommend me this Y usb cable and BINGO,everything is OK now.You only need this cable for 750gb and up drivers,who needs more power to spin.Drivers with exterior power supply don't need to apply.
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ok, MPV. thanks for your input. never heard of this kind of connection before...
al.
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Hi Alex,
No it works fine and the only one confused is ME :scratch:
james
James,
what is confusing you?
al.
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James,
what is confusing you?
al.
LIFE :lol:
james
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LIFE :lol:
james
:o :lol: :thumb:
al.
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Some times, I'm experiencing some hiccups or dropouts when playing music on BDP, mostly with 192/24 materials. Ran some tests and found out that, with the same files, they occured when I use Bryston MAX / FireFox 4.0 in my notebook PC (Win7 64bit) as the controller. No dropouts when playing with the unit's front buttons & BR-2 remote.
Should I try using FireFox 3.6 and/or Minion instead? Or if Ipad2 can resolve the problem totally, I'll tell my wife I'll have to get it! :lol:
Thank you.
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Some times, I'm experiencing some hiccups or dropouts when playing music on BDP, mostly with 192/24 materials. Ran some tests and found out that, with the same files, they occured when I use Bryston MAX / FireFox 4.0 in my notebook PC (Win7 64bit) as the controller. No dropouts when playing with the unit's front buttons & BR-2 remote.
Should I try using FireFox 3.6 and/or Minion instead? Or if Ipad2 can resolve the problem totally, I'll tell my wife I'll have to get it! :lol:
Thank you.
Hi Klao,
It is worth a try - I use the iTouch and the iPad with no issues. I also have minion on a Laptop I sometimes use as well.
What type of USB drive and how many drives are you using?
james
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Hi Klao,
It is worth a try - I use the iTouch and the iPad with no issues. I also have minion on a Laptop I sometimes use as well.
james
Hi James,
I don't understand any of this!
Please explain why you believe the conroller software Minion/Max should cause drop-outs on replay? And why would the platform they are running on make any difference, PC or iPAD. They're just sending data over the UTP connection surely?
These are just controllers providing control squences to the BDP-1 and shoudn't affect playback, unless the BDP-1 is very poorly designed.
I'm confused.
Terry
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Hi Klao,
It is worth a try - I use the iTouch and the iPad with no issues. I also have minion on a Laptop I sometimes use as well.
What type of USB drive and how many drives are you using?
I use the iPad2 with MPaD and no drop outs. I had problems with drop outs using the Bryston interface running either Firefox or Safari. I would get that iPad2. Once you start using the MPaD app there will be no turning back.
Ned
james
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Hi James,
I don't understand any of this!
Please explain why you believe the conroller software Minion/Max should cause drop-outs on replay? And why would the platform they are running on make any difference, PC or iPAD. They're just sending data over the UTP connection surely?
These are just controllers providing control squences to the BDP-1 and shoudn't affect playback, unless the BDP-1 is very poorly designed.
I'm confused.
Terry
Hi Terry
That's why I asked about the drives. Usually the drives would cause dropouts due to excessive computer resources being consumed?
James
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Hi Terry
That's why I asked about the drives. Usually the drives would cause dropouts due to excessive computer resources being consumed?
James
Thanks James,
What are you suggesting, if the drives are slow (maybe?) then you could have drop-out issues?
Terry
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Thanks James,
What are you suggesting, if the drives are slow (maybe?) then you could have drop-out issues?
TerryN
No nothing to do with speed. It has to do with the power supply being loaded down if your using some older drives and that can affect the resources's available.
Also when your using the Bryston webbased Max or Mini interface your using more computer resources's than a dedicated APP like mPad or mPod.
I have had no issues with Max or Mini in my 3 setups.
James
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No nothing to do with speed. It has to do with the power supply being loaded down if your using some older drives and that can affect the resources's available.
Also when your using the Bryston webbased Max or Mini interface your using more computer resources's than a dedicated APP like mPad or mPod.
I have had no issues with Max or Mini in my 3 setups.
James
Now that you've explained it that way, it makes more sense now.
Thanks,
Terry
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It's the external HDD that got this problem, specifically the Buffalo DriveStation HD-LB2.0TU2 (2TB). This is the only drive attached to the BDP-1 via its back USB port. The HDD has its own power supply/cord.
http://www.buffalo-asia.com/cgi-bin/products/detail.cgi?country=th&code=2&id=514
Sometimes, rebooting the BDP-1 (and this drive) helped.
Hi Klao,
It is worth a try - I use the iTouch and the iPad with no issues. I also have minion on a Laptop I sometimes use as well.
What type of USB drive and how many drives are you using?
james
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It's the external HDD that got this problem, specifically the Buffalo DriveStation HD-LB2.0TU2 (2TB). This is the only drive attached to the BDP-1 via its back USB port. The HDD has its own power supply/cord.
http://www.buffalo-asia.com/cgi-bin/products/detail.cgi?country=th&code=2&id=514
Sometimes, rebooting the BDP-1 (and this drive) helped.
Ok it might be worth investing in a 2.5 500GB or 750GB USB drive and see if the problem goes away - much cheaper than an iPad 2 :D
james
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Ok it might be worth investing in a 2.5 500GB or 750GB USB drive and see if the problem goes away - much cheaper than an iPad 2 :D
james
Speaking of which....
Still waiting on the Bryston hard disk solution :whip:
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Speaking of which....
Still waiting on the Bryston hard disk solution :whip:
Hi Terry,
I am not feeling as pressured now about it due to the new BDP-1 software allowing for attached file memory.
james
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i have 2 hdd (500gb + 1tb) connected to the BDP-1. both are NTSF. the 500gb seems to have serious issues...the player doesn't has promptly access to the files. both hdd are new (WD) and 2.5".
have to check...
al.
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I thought the BDP does not support NTFS....or has there been a software upgrade on this issue. My software is 28/3/2011.
VK
i have 2 hdd (500gb + 1tb) connected to the BDP-1. both are NTSF. the 500gb seems to have serious issues...the player doesn't has promptly access to the files. both hdd are new (WD) and 2.5".
have to check...
al.
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I thought the BDP does not support NTFS....or has there been a software upgrade on this issue. My software is 28/3/2011.
VK
Hi VK
The BDP will play NTSF it is just that you can not write to it or copy files to it over the network like you can with FAT32.
James
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James,
does it matter if a hdd is NTSF or FAT 32 regarding the performance?!?
al.
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James,
does it matter if a hdd is NTSF or FAT 32 regarding the performance?!?
al.
NO :thumb:
james
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James,
what are the correct settings for Mpod when using an iphone4?
al.
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James,
what are the correct settings for Mpod when using an iphone4?
al.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=45805)
james
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Doesn't sound good, you are still intending to do a drive solution though?
Cheers
Hi Terry,
I am not feeling as pressured now about it due to the new BDP-1 software allowing for attached file memory.
james
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Doesn't sound good, you are still intending to do a drive solution though?
Cheers
Yes still looking at it but want to get the SP3 finished and on the market before I move on to another project.
james
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Yes still looking at it but want to get the SP3 finished and on the market before I move on to another project.
james
Thanks James, nice to know it will be along.
Just wish I could afford an SP3 :bawl:
Cheers
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James,
since the BrystonMax shows the sample rate of the songs I discovered that I have some files with 11025hz, 22050hz. these sample rates are under the limit of the BDA-1's sample rate (which is 32khz!?!). will I have to expect any playback problems? (probably I have some more files with different khz-sample rates which are below 32khz :o, have to check that out!)
al.
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Hi Al,
Heres a shot of mine at home.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=43680)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=43681)
james
James, I read in a review of the bpd1 that stacking the bdp1 and bda1 (as u show in your system) is very bad for the sound. Any comments?
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Hi Al,
Heres a shot of mine at home.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=43680)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=43681)
james
James, I read in a review of the bpd1 that stacking the bdp1 and bda1 (as u show in your system) is very bad for the sound. Any comments?
james
James, I read in a review of the bpd1 that stacking the bdp1 and bda1 (as u show in your system) is very bad for the sound. Any comments?
Hi al,
Yes it sounds like crap :lol:
james
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James,
i think this is a misunderstanding here. the question about how to stack the BDP/BDA came from JJC1 not from me. however, according to his postings i assume that he is a newbie and is probably not experienced enough with Bryston gear. i think that JJC1 really wanted to know what you have to say about stacking Bryston gear...
give him a chance to understand your first hand/first class advice about Bryston stuff...like we all want and need it :wink:.
al.
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James,
i think this is a misunderstanding here. the question about how to stack the BDP/BDA came from JJC1 not from me. however, according to his postings i assume that he is a newbie and is probably not experienced enough with Bryston gear. i think that JJC1 really wanted to know what you have to say about stacking Bryston gear...
give him a chance to understand your first hand/first class advice about Bryston stuff...like we all want and need it :wink:.
al.
Hi al
Yes I knew you said a reviewer and I was being a smart ass but sometimes I feel reviewers stretch credibility a bit - I do not mind when they split hairs - it's when they quarter them I start to worry :lol:
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James, on some of the pictures posted of the BDP/BDA, the LED lights are blue. On others, they're green. Is there a way to switch? All my equipment has blue lights, except the BDP/BDA which are green. Is there someway to change their colour?
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James, on some of the pictures posted of the BDP/BDA, the LED lights are blue. On others, they're green. Is there a way to switch? All my equipment has blue lights, except the BDP/BDA which are green. Is there someway to change their colour?
Hi,
No sorry - they can be ordered in blue or green but can not be changed in the field. We are thinking of dumping Blue as the LED's are very difficult to find.
james
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Hi,
No sorry - they can be ordered in blue or green but can not be changed in the field. We are thinking of dumping Blue as the LED's are very difficult to find.
james
NO, don't dump the Blue's, least not until I have ordered everything...... :oops:
Cheers
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NO, don't dump the Blue's, least not until I have ordered everything...... :oops:
Cheers
Sounds like you'd better get that order in quick Alpha :wink:
It would definately be a shame if you had to discontinue the blue LED's James as they do look lovely, if I had my time again I'd love a 100% blue led Bryston system, I like caberxx's idea though of having a switch to change between green and blue, just so I could change to suit my mood :)
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Sounds like you'd better get that order in quick Alpha :wink:
It would definately be a shame if you had to discontinue the blue LED's James as they do look lovely, if I had my time again I'd love a 100% blue led Bryston system, I like caberxx's idea though of having a switch to change between green and blue, just so I could change to suit my mood :)
Cheers Vipers, I am saving hard, nearly there for the 4BSST2, but I am still trying to decide whether to go for the pre-amp before the power amp, to enhance the BDP/BDA combo. I may go power amp first as I still hope to pursuade James to do the right thing and have a high quality, simple pre-amp with HT bypass :fishing:
Cheers
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Yes still looking at it but want to get the SP3 finished and on the market before I move on to another project.
james
Hi James, I was just wondering if there is any update on if/when you may get back to the drive solution for the BDP?
Cheers
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Hi James, I was just wondering if there is any update on if/when you may get back to the drive solution for the BDP?
Cheers
Hi Alpha10,
Have not really looked at it recently as the pricing issue seems to continue to be the problem. I do not know what value we can bring to a dedicated drive given the prices of the USB drives currently out there other than matching cosmetics?
james
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Hi Alpha10,
Have not really looked at it recently as the pricing issue seems to continue to be the problem. I do not know what value we can bring to a dedicated drive given the prices of the USB drives currently out there other than matching cosmetics?
james
Hi James,
I agree you cannot compete with the drives included, it is the cosmetics and convenience that are important to me. I think that what would be a great value add to the BDP is a simple drive enclosure (probably just based on an existing box such as the MPS2?) for matching cosmetics, in this have a good power supply so we do not need to use horrible wall-warts and four drive slots in the back such that we can add whatever drives we want/have? Maybe a simple USB hub such that there is a single output to the BDP?
How does that sound to others?
Cheers
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Sounds good to me Alpha.
Only features I'd like to add is a trigger input such that the unit switches itself on when you switch on the BDP-1 and the ability to use RAID-1 or RAID-0 - selectable
It would need a sata to USB interface (I'm sure they're available off the shelf) so I could use standard drives, either solid state or mechanical ones
As far as drives sizes are concerned, we'd want to use either 3.5" or the smaller laptop types.
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Well, I received my new Bryston BDP-1 yesterday and it sounds fantastic. However, I seem to be having a networking problem. Maybe someone out there has encountered the same problem? I'm sure there's an easy solution, it's just that I'm not a computer wiz.
My setup includes a cable modem with an attached Apple Airport Extreme for Wi-Fi. I'm using an Apple IMac (latest version). I've hard wired the BDP-1 to a spare port on the Airport Extreme. However, sometimes the BDP-1 shows up on my system, and sometimes it doesn't. When I turn off my computer and Bryston system and then turn it all back on again, the BDP does not show up as a device. But if I go to the Airport Extreme and change the port that the BDP-1 is plugged into, then I can manage to get it to show up on my computer.
Anyone with any ideas?
Thanks
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I've been using the Gnome Music Player Client (instead of MAX), on my Win7 64-bit PCs. Happy to report back that there is no dropout at all. Can postpone my purchase of Ipad2 or new Galaxy Tab til way later. :thumb:
Once in a long while, the Gnome crashes and I have to restart the program, though.
Some times, I'm experiencing some hiccups or dropouts when playing music on BDP, mostly with 192/24 materials. Ran some tests and found out that, with the same files, they occured when I use Bryston MAX / FireFox 4.0 in my notebook PC (Win7 64bit) as the controller. No dropouts when playing with the unit's front buttons & BR-2 remote.
Should I try using FireFox 3.6 and/or Minion instead? Or if Ipad2 can resolve the problem totally, I'll tell my wife I'll have to get it! :lol:
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Well, I received my new Bryston BDP-1 yesterday and it sounds fantastic. However, I seem to be having a networking problem. Maybe someone out there has encountered the same problem? I'm sure there's an easy solution, it's just that I'm not a computer wiz.
My setup includes a cable modem with an attached Apple Airport Extreme for Wi-Fi. I'm using an Apple IMac (latest version). I've hard wired the BDP-1 to a spare port on the Airport Extreme. However, sometimes the BDP-1 shows up on my system, and sometimes it doesn't. When I turn off my computer and Bryston system and then turn it all back on again, the BDP does not show up as a device. But if I go to the Airport Extreme and change the port that the BDP-1 is plugged into, then I can manage to get it to show up on my computer.
Anyone with any ideas?
Thanks
Does it reconnect if you plug and un-plug into the same port?
james
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Well, I received my new Bryston BDP-1 yesterday and it sounds fantastic. However, I seem to be having a networking problem. Maybe someone out there has encountered the same problem? I'm sure there's an easy solution, it's just that I'm not a computer wiz.
My setup includes a cable modem with an attached Apple Airport Extreme for Wi-Fi. I'm using an Apple IMac (latest version). I've hard wired the BDP-1 to a spare port on the Airport Extreme. However, sometimes the BDP-1 shows up on my system, and sometimes it doesn't. When I turn off my computer and Bryston system and then turn it all back on again, the BDP does not show up as a device. But if I go to the Airport Extreme and change the port that the BDP-1 is plugged into, then I can manage to get it to show up on my computer.
Anyone with any ideas?
Thanks
My audio setup is in a differnt room than my router. So I bought a Netgear Powerline adapter for the BDP1. You simply plug one adapter into an electric socket and it connects to the router via an ethernet cable. In the room with the BDP1, another adapter is connected to an electric socket and to the BDP1 via ethernet cable. You now have a dedicated wireless connection to the BDP1 for your interface. It also is a wireless connection to the internet so that you can have internet radio thru the BDP1 and also access to album art, etc.
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I have a high end CD-based audio set-up but have been doing research into incorporating network-access to my FLAC files, trying to step up to 2011. However, after reading this thread and others, and recognizing that I listen to music as my means of unwinding and relaxing, I've come to the conclusion that screwing around with network connections and drop-outs is the antithesis of relaxation. I just want to sit on my couch at night with an ice cold martini and push a button on my remote control. When I can do that with a PC based system, I will jump on it.
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Does it reconnect if you plug and un-plug into the same port?
james
I just tried it leaving everything on and yes, it re-connected when I plugged it back in.
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My audio setup is in a differnt room than my router. So I bought a Netgear Powerline adapter for the BDP1. You simply plug one adapter into an electric socket and it connects to the router via an ethernet cable. In the room with the BDP1, another adapter is connected to an electric socket and to the BDP1 via ethernet cable. You now have a dedicated wireless connection to the BDP1 for your interface. It also is a wireless connection to the internet so that you can have internet radio thru the BDP1 and also access to album art, etc.
That sounds like a great idea - what model Netgear do you use?
james
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That sounds like a great idea - what model Netgear do you use?
james
I"m not at home right now. I'll check tonight and let you know.
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I"m not at home right now. I'll check tonight and let you know.
I have them too, XAV2501
They're good!
They have a mains socket on the front so you don't loose a socket
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My audio setup is in a differnt room than my router. So I bought a Netgear Powerline adapter for the BDP1. You simply plug one adapter into an electric socket and it connects to the router via an ethernet cable. In the room with the BDP1, another adapter is connected to an electric socket and to the BDP1 via ethernet cable. You now have a dedicated wireless connection to the BDP1 for your interface. It also is a wireless connection to the internet so that you can have internet radio thru the BDP1 and also access to album art, etc.
Only issue is you now have sent "crud" down your powerline and into any components connected to the same circuit.
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I have a high end CD-based audio set-up but have been doing research into incorporating network-access to my FLAC files, trying to step up to 2011. However, after reading this thread and others, and recognizing that I listen to music as my means of unwinding and relaxing, I've come to the conclusion that screwing around with network connections and drop-outs is the antithesis of relaxation. I just want to sit on my couch at night with an ice cold martini and push a button on my remote control. When I can do that with a PC based system, I will jump on it.
Hi MttBsh,
I hear what you are saying but I urge you to think again, the BDP-1 is a real painless exercise in setup, mine runs faultlessly. Plus you can get access to 24bit audio and as you are not limited to the play length of a cd you can queue up and extra long playlist giving more time for relaxing and an extra large martini :)
I really can't recommend the BDP-1 highly enough.
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...Vipers is correct! simplicity is the word that the BDP can call its own. plug in a stick or a hdd sit down and r-e-l-a-x :D. all in the name of music.
al.
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I guess I'm now just about going crazy trying to make my BDP-1 work on my network. This morning, when I turned everything back on (computer, BDP-1) it took three or four cycles of on and off and changing ports on my Airport Extreme to get the computer to even recognize the BDP-1 device. Once that happens, though, the MPod remote works. Anyway, I started fooling around with the settings on the BDP-1 and set it back to the "factory" configuration. Now, I can't get the computer to see it at all. Somehow, though, the MPoD on my IPod touch still works.
Could this be a problem that could be solved by assigning a static address to the device in the computer? Assuming, that is, I can ever get the computer to see the device again.
Oh well. I'm not that hard to please, but it would be nice if this thing worked.
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I guess I'm now just about going crazy trying to make my BDP-1 work on my network. This morning, when I turned everything back on (computer, BDP-1) it took three or four cycles of on and off and changing ports on my Airport Extreme to get the computer to even recognize the BDP-1 device. Once that happens, though, the MPod remote works. Anyway, I started fooling around with the settings on the BDP-1 and set it back to the "factory" configuration. Now, I can't get the computer to see it at all. Somehow, though, the MPoD on my IPod touch still works.
Could this be a problem that could be solved by assigning a static address to the device in the computer? Assuming, that is, I can ever get the computer to see the device again.
Oh well. I'm not that hard to please, but it would be nice if this thing worked.
Sorry you are having troubles but a static IP would help. I do not have any experience with the Airport product though.
james
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That sounds like a great idea - what model Netgear do you use?
james
James, the Netgear Adapter I use is "Powerline 85 Adapter Kit. 79.99 at Best Buy. That's all you need. No use for anything more sophiscated or powerful assuming the distance from the BDP1 is a normal listening distance.(Can't see why anyone would be further away). It's also much easier to set up than a separate router.
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James, the Netgear Adapter I use is "Powerline 85 Adapter Kit. 79.99 at Best Buy. That's all you need. No use for anything more sophiscated or powerful assuming the distance from the BDP1 is a normal listening distance.(Can't see why anyone would be further away). It's also much easier to set up than a separate router.
Thanks a bunch for that -- I will definitely check it out :thumb:
James
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Sorry you are having troubles but a static IP would help. I do not have any experience with the Airport product though.
james
Thanks for listening. I guess I'll figure it out after about 1000 hours of fooling around.
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I guess I'm now just about going crazy trying to make my BDP-1 work on my network. This morning, when I turned everything back on (computer, BDP-1) it took three or four cycles of on and off and changing ports on my Airport Extreme to get the computer to even recognize the BDP-1 device. Once that happens, though, the MPod remote works. Anyway, I started fooling around with the settings on the BDP-1 and set it back to the "factory" configuration. Now, I can't get the computer to see it at all. Somehow, though, the MPoD on my IPod touch still works.
Could this be a problem that could be solved by assigning a static address to the device in the computer? Assuming, that is, I can ever get the computer to see the device again.
Oh well. I'm not that hard to please, but it would be nice if this thing worked.
If you are expecting a client to use the Bonjour network service, where you just type bryston-bdp-1.local, you need to expect this to take several minutes for the discovery process to work. This isn't a function of the BDP or even the Airport Extreme router, but a function of the Bonjour service and the MPD Client Software running on your computer or the handheld of your choice.
Using a static IP address will avoid this delay by essentially short-circuiting the Bonjour protocol and the only difficult part is setting up a static IP address on your network. You have two choices here
1) configure the BDP to use a static address with the downside that you have to plug in the DNS information when your ISP changes it.
2) Have the Airport Extreme (or any router) assign the IP address using the MAC address of the BDP. No downside here, and is the method I use for a few network appliances.
BTW, the BDP and Airport extreme works flawlessly for me, just need to be patient on first boot. i.e. I turn everything on, grab a beer, then fire up the client to control it.
Jim
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If you are expecting a client to use the Bonjour network service, where you just type bryston-bdp-1.local, you need to expect this to take several minutes for the discovery process to work. This isn't a function of the BDP or even the Airport Extreme router, but a function of the Bonjour service and the MPD Client Software running on your computer or the handheld of your choice.
Using a static IP address will avoid this delay by essentially short-circuiting the Bonjour protocol and the only difficult part is setting up a static IP address on your network. You have two choices here
1) configure the BDP to use a static address with the downside that you have to plug in the DNS information when your ISP changes it.
2) Have the Airport Extreme (or any router) assign the IP address using the MAC address of the BDP. No downside here, and is the method I use for a few network appliances.
BTW, the BDP and Airport extreme works flawlessly for me, just need to be patient on first boot. i.e. I turn everything on, grab a beer, then fire up the client to control it.
Jim
Thanks Jim - very helpful. :thumb:
James
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If you are expecting a client to use the Bonjour network service, where you just type bryston-bdp-1.local, you need to expect this to take several minutes for the discovery process to work. This isn't a function of the BDP or even the Airport Extreme router, but a function of the Bonjour service and the MPD Client Software running on your computer or the handheld of your choice.
Using a static IP address will avoid this delay by essentially short-circuiting the Bonjour protocol and the only difficult part is setting up a static IP address on your network. You have two choices here
1) configure the BDP to use a static address with the downside that you have to plug in the DNS information when your ISP changes it.
2) Have the Airport Extreme (or any router) assign the IP address using the MAC address of the BDP. No downside here, and is the method I use for a few network appliances.
BTW, the BDP and Airport extreme works flawlessly for me, just need to be patient on first boot. i.e. I turn everything on, grab a beer, then fire up the client to control it.
Jim
Thanks a lot. Maybe I'm just being a bit impatient. I'll take your advice tomorrow and give the system time to recognize the BDP-1. If that's all it takes, that would be great. It's not as though I'm in any hurry. Anyway, once I get this problem solved, I'll buy a IPad to control everything. My next project.
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Thanks again everyone. This morning I turned on my system and my computer. The BDP-1 initialized and after that it took the computer about 10 minutes to find the BDP-1. After that, all was well. I'm listening to it now, and as I've said before, it sounds great with the Bryston DAC, especially playing some of the HDTracks music.
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...my BDP has 2 hdd connected at its back (lower input 1tb, upper input 500gb and both are 2,5"). the player can't play the files stored on the 500gb hdd even though it is detected and displayed by Minion.
anyone any idea?
thanx,
al.
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...my BDP has 2 hdd connected at its back (lower input 1tb, upper input 500gb and both are 2,5"). the player can't play the files stored on the 500gb hdd even though it is detected and displayed by Minion.
anyone any idea?
thanx,
al.
Hi Al,
What happens if you just have the 1TB drive attached (no 500). Is the 1TB drive formatted NTSF?
I usually recommend self powered drives (especially the older ones) once you get above 750GB as the USB spec allows for 500ma of current and some TB and larger drives try to draw too much current.
james
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James,
if only the 1tb hdd is connected everything works perfectly (attached again on the lower usb input).
both the 1tb and the 500gb are NTSF.
al.
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James,
if only the 1tb hdd is connected everything works perfectly (attached again on the lower usb input).
both the 1tb and the 500gb are NTSF.
al.
Hi Al,
It sounds like the combined drives are asking for more current - my guess is that if you disconnect the 1TB the 500 will work. Some drives require more power than others.
Are they new drives or older USB drives? The newer 2.5 inch USB drives take much less power than the older versions.
james
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...both are new. WD 2.5". even if the 500gb is attached alone it does not work with Minion. Minion shows it on the screen but I don't have access to the files.
al.
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...both are new. WD 2.5". even if the 500gb is attached alone it does not work with Minion. Minion shows it on the screen but I don't have access to the files.
al.
Hi Al,
Gee you got me - maybe the drive is defective in some way? Have you got other drives you can try besides the 1TB drive of course. Can you send me the model number of the 500G.
james
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...done!
al.
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James,
i don't think the 500gb drive is defective as it works with my computer without issues. weird, isn't it?!?
al.
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Hi al
Try reformatting the drive Fat32 and see if that solves it. Make sure you save the content on your computer.
James
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Hi al
Try reformatting the drive Fat32 and see if that solves it. Make sure you save the content on your computer.
James
ok, thanks. will give it a try...
al.
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James,
the 500gb works with BrystonMax !!! the problem seems to be Minion????? :scratch:
the drive is still NTFS.
al.
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James,
the 500gb works with BrystonMax !!! the problem seems to be Minion????? :scratch:
the drive is still NTFS.
al.
That is a first Al - not sure where to go on that. :scratch: If you are using a PC try GNOME.
james
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James,
the 500gb works with BrystonMax !!! the problem seems to be Minion????? :scratch:
the drive is still NTFS.
al.
HA! another first one: i started BrystonMax first and the complete content of the 500gb appeared (the drive is connected to the upper usb input at the BDP's back). cool. no issues! after that i started Minion....and the whole content of the 500gb drive appeared again as a playlist. i tried to play a few songs - everything ok! then i hooked up the 1tb hdd into the lower usb input at the back of the BDP. the files got loaded - and NOW i have a complete playlist of both the 500gb and the 1tb hdd.
it works troublefree :D
hmmm....Gremlins?!? :scratch:
al.
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HA! another first one: i started BrystonMax first and the complete content of the 500gb appeared (the drive is connected to the upper usb input at the BDP's back). cool. no issues! after that i started Minion....and the whole content of the 500gb drive appeared again as a playlist. i tried to play a few songs - everything ok! then i hooked up the 1tb hdd into the lower usb input at the back of the BDP. the files got loaded - and NOW i have a complete playlist of both the 500gb and the 1tb hdd.
it works troublefree :D
hmmm....Gremlins?!? :scratch:
al.
Sounds like "Product OK" --- "Customer Defective" :lol: :lol:
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Sounds like "Product OK" --- "Customer Defective" :lol: :lol:
well, i don't have a problem if it's me... :oops:
but i will try it again later:
1) turn off the BDP
2) unplug both hdd
3) plug in the 500 gb again (upper input)
4) see what happens...
all in all it could be a problem of the drive, of NTFS, of FAT32 or W-H-A-T-E-V-E-R...or me?!? i don't know.
al.
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i turned off the BDP, unplugged both drives and plugged the 500gb in again with the same result. need to start BrystonMax first before Minion and/or Gnome can play music from this drive.
al :roll:.
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Hi Folks,
I have been asked a number of times why we choose the particular components we did in the BDP-1 Bryston Digital Player and the motivation for the development of the BDP-1.
The BDP-1 was born out of my frustration with trying to assemble a quality digital playback system that would do all the way to 192/24 without glitches (dropouts etc.). I spent a year playing with different operating systems like Windows and MAC and different sound cards and finally decided on Linux because it can be dedicated to do 'one thing'- PLAY A MUSIC FILE - no housekeeping, no virus issues etc.
I played with a number of soundcards and many had issues integrating with the specific operating systems the operating systems had to have many areas 'deactivated' (ex - 'do not map through this device' in Windows) in order to get 'bit perfect' output. Some would play 96/24 and 192/24 but not 176/24 etc. Anyway long story short I wanted a plug and play system which performed at a state of the art level and you did not have to be a computer guru to figure out how to setup your computer operating system and choose an appropriate sound card that did not have issues with high resolution (192/24) playback.
So it is not easy to assemble a computer system which will have an incredibly low noise floor with low distortion and high resolution file playback that the BDP-1 has to offer. Certainly a knowledgeable computer guy can assemble a great sounding setup but it is not a simple task.
The raw components in the BDP-1 were selected for their performance and reliability. Designing computer components from scratch is challenging with the short life cycle of consumer computer components.
The Sound Card in the BDP-1 player is a ‘Julia@’ sound card and it is excellent in native configuration - one of the best out there. To improve its performance we modified it with a much better output stage (both the transformer and driving stage are removed) so it is NOT a stock unit. We also install a dedicated balanced low noise, low distortion AES EBU and BNC output section to integrate properly (impedance matching) with our BDA-1 DAC.
The specific Computer Mother board was chosen because it is used in industrial areas and changes very little over time so you have a consistent supply of parts and predictability of performance. But the really important part is it has NO MOVING PARTS - no fans or switching power supplies etc. that can generate noise. The motherboard has been used for metro area wireless systems for a number of years and has a very good reliability record. It also meets the essential requirements of low power and fan-less operation, both essential to the low noise, both acoustical and electrical, requirements for good audio.
The BDP-1 provides as faithful a bitstream as we know how to provide with current technology. Very few PC’s come close to this goal and then only with a lot of special optimizations that cripple their utility as a pc. Many PC’s have a lot of audio processing running in the background as well as a lot of EMI and RFI that can influence the performance of connected equipment. Sometimes the effects of the noise and jitter can be pleasing but they are not necessarily accurate.
James Tanner
V/P Bryston
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Hi VK
The BDP will play NTSF it is just that you can not write to it or copy files to it over the network like you can with FAT32.
James
James I am thinking about getting the BDP-1 and one of the questions I have is about getting music to the HDD plugged into the back. Are you saying that if I have the BDP-1 on my network and the external HDD that is attached to it is formated FAT32, I should be able to see it from other computers on my network so I can write additional music files to it without having to unplug it and plug it in somewhere else?
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Hi Terry,
I am not feeling as pressured now about it due to the new BDP-1 software allowing for attached file memory.
james
James, is attached file memory another way of saying a hard drive, or is it something different?
Thank you.
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James I am thinking about getting the BDP-1 and one of the questions I have is about getting music to the HDD plugged into the back. Are you saying that if I have the BDP-1 on my network and the external HDD that is attached to it is formated FAT32, I should be able to see it from other computers on my network so I can write additional music files to it without having to unplug it and plug it in somewhere else?
Hi mikemalter,
Correct - you can just drag and drop from any computer on the network to an attached drive. You can even transfer from one attached drive to another over the network.
james
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James, is attached file memory another way of saying a hard drive, or is it something different?
Thank you.
When you shut down the BDP-1 it will REMEMBER the attached drive libraries so it does not have to reload them on startup.
james
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Jim, would you be able to explain exactly how do I do this in a Mac with Time Capsule? I tried typing the BDPs' MAC address into AirPort Utility's Access Control, naming it BDP-1. Then in MoPAD I set up a connection named BDP-1 with Server named BDP-1. Couldn't connect to the MPD server. It also won't connect via the bryston.local setting. I am able to connect from my iMac using Max. I'm just guessing at what buttons to push here and have not found step by step instructions.
Thanks very much,
2) Have the Airport Extreme (or any router) assign the IP address using the MAC address of the BDP. No downside here, and is the method I use for a few network appliances.
BTW, the BDP and Airport extreme works flawlessly for me, just need to be patient on first boot. i.e. I turn everything on, grab a beer, then fire up the client to control it.
Jim
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Jim, would you be able to explain exactly how do I do this in a Mac with Time Capsule? I tried typing the BDPs' MAC address into AirPort Utility's Access Control, naming it BDP-1. Then in MoPAD I set up a connection named BDP-1 with Server named BDP-1. Couldn't connect to the MPD server. It also won't connect via the bryston.local setting. I am able to connect from my iMac using Max. I'm just guessing at what buttons to push here and have not found step by step instructions.
Thanks very much,
2) Have the Airport Extreme (or any router) assign the IP address using the MAC address of the BDP. No downside here, and is the method I use for a few network appliances.
BTW, the BDP and Airport extreme works flawlessly for me, just need to be patient on first boot. i.e. I turn everything on, grab a beer, then fire up the client to control it.
Jim
Hi Jim
I will forward to our software engineer.
James
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Hi Jim
I will forward to our software engineer.
James
Thanks. I should have properly signed the post (it was my first one). I was quoting Jim's, but my name is Neil. Again, appreciate any assistance as the new BDP sounds great but I am frustrated getting a reliable remote MoPad connection. I was able to connect after reboot of BDP but as soon as I selected a song to play the connection dropped until next reboot.
Neil
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Thanks. I should have properly signed the post (it was my first one). I was quoting Jim's, but my name is Neil. Again, appreciate any assistance as the new BDP sounds great but I am frustrated getting a reliable remote MoPad connection. I was able to connect after reboot of BDP but as soon as I selected a song to play the connection dropped until next reboot.
Neil
Hi Neil,
It has to be a network issue I assume - Have you tried any other interface like a desktop or laptop with Chrome or Safari browser? Also instead of the bryston-bdp-1.local try the IP address of the BDP-1. It is available using the down button on the 5 button navigation array on the front panel of the BDP-1 when the display says Bryston BDP-1
james
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Hi Neil,
It has to be a network issue I assume - Have you tried any other interface like a desktop or laptop with Chrome or Safari browser? Also instead of the bryston-bdp-1.local try the IP address of the BDP-1. It is available using the down button on the 5 button navigation array on the front panel of the BDP-1 when the display says Bryston BDP-1
james
I'm sure it is (was) a network issue too. In fact, all is now working with the original recommended settings. This is the fun I was looking for! Don't know how or why it was fixed...but I'll just be glad it works now. Hopefully the network stays solid.
Well, I just this instant got one of those static bursts between songs of different albums. I'll look for posts on that to see if there is news. Both songs are the same format, Apple lossless.
Cheers,
Neil
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I'm sure it is (was) a network issue too. In fact, all is now working with the original recommended settings. This is the fun I was looking for! Don't know how or why it was fixed...but I'll just be glad it works now. Hopefully the network stays solid.
Well, I just this instant got one of those static bursts between songs of different albums. I'll look for posts on that to see if there is news. Both songs are the same format, Apple lossless.
Cheers,
Neil
I have some apple lossless and do not have an issue but if you can... convert the files to FLAC.
james
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I have some apple lossless and do not have an issue but if you can... convert the files to FLAC.
james
James,
I assume folks that use iTunes would prefer that ALAC works, but probably the better advice would be to convert to AIFF over FLAC so they can at least use it in iTunes. Asking them to keep two song libraries will make the BDP sound less usable than it really is. Also, FLAC still isn't supported by Microsoft or Apple, of course you can install other players and rippers to get around this limation, but it pretty much kills any portable device.
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I'm sure it is (was) a network issue too. In fact, all is now working with the original recommended settings. This is the fun I was looking for! Don't know how or why it was fixed...but I'll just be glad it works now. Hopefully the network stays solid.
Well, I just this instant got one of those static bursts between songs of different albums. I'll look for posts on that to see if there is news. Both songs are the same format, Apple lossless.
Cheers,
Neil
Neil,
It just takes a few minutes for Bonjour to work. If you still have issues, I can post the screen shots on how to add it. But really just go to the Internet tab within the Airport Utility and add a DHCP Reservations by clicking the plus to 'reserve by MAC Address'. The difficult part will be to find the MAC address, sadly the bryston-bdp-1.local webpage doesn't list it, nor do i remember if it's listed on the back, but you can review the airport extreme/time capsule logs and get the MAC address via the DHCP client list.
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Neil,
It just takes a few minutes for Bonjour to work. If you still have issues, I can post the screen shots on how to add it. But really just go to the Internet tab within the Airport Utility and add a DHCP Reservations by clicking the plus to 'reserve by MAC Address'. The difficult part will be to find the MAC address, sadly the bryston-bdp-1.local webpage doesn't list it, nor do i remember if it's listed on the back, but you can review the airport extreme/time capsule logs and get the MAC address via the DHCP client list.
The MAC address is available on the front panel of the BDP by pressing the left navigation button on the front panel navigation buttons when the display says Bryston BDP-1
James
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James,
A quick question if you don't mind, I'm sure it's been asked before and I should probably know the answer.
Is it possible to connect the BDP-1 to a network wirelessly?
As it is only so you can control the BDP-1 by an Ipad, etc, then hard wiring is not as crucial as if you were streaming, is there a wireless dongle of any kind that would work?
Thanks,
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James,
A quick question if you don't mind, I'm sure it's been asked before and I should probably know the answer.
Is it possible to connect the BDP-1 to a network wirelessly?
As it is only so you can control the BDP-1 by an Ipad, etc, then hard wiring is not as crucial as if you were streaming, is there a wireless dongle of any kind that would work?
Thanks,
Correct - the wireless network is only for control. You want a hardwired connection for best performance - please avoid all wireless music transfer connections.
james
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James,
A quick question if you don't mind, I'm sure it's been asked before and I should probably know the answer.
Is it possible to connect the BDP-1 to a network wirelessly?
As it is only so you can control the BDP-1 by an Ipad, etc, then hard wiring is not as crucial as if you were streaming, is there a wireless dongle of any kind that would work?
Thanks,
I use the Netgear WNCE2001 connected to the BDP-1.
http://www.netgear.com/home/products/wireless-adapters/high-performance/WNCE2001.aspx
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James,
A quick question if you don't mind, I'm sure it's been asked before and I should probably know the answer.
Is it possible to connect the BDP-1 to a network wirelessly?
As it is only so you can control the BDP-1 by an Ipad, etc, then hard wiring is not as crucial as if you were streaming, is there a wireless dongle of any kind that would work?
Thanks,
I use the Netgear Powerline Adapter Kit. It connects the BDP1 wirelessly and I have no trouble with internet radio streaming. It also helps with album art and artist and album info. Try it. If you don't like it, return it.
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From: Paul
Sent: August-16-11 5:33 AM
To: Bryston - James Tanner
Subject: Bryston BDP-1, BDA-1
Hi James,
I see you facilitate the Bryston forum on AudioCircles – apologies for not posting there but I presume you can’t post without registering (I have no objection if you wish to post this there for the benefit of others).
I live in Hong Kong and have had Bryston kit (BP-26 pre, SST2-4B power amp and BDA-1 DAC) since Jan 2010 - I am very happy with it. I had a Musical Fidelity A5 CD player but opted for convenience and ripped all my CDs to a NAS. I found wireless gave me dropouts, so the NAS is now wired to my router, as is a Sonos ZP80 connected to my DAC. I am interested in the BDP1 for its quality, but until recently Bryston had no Internet radio which was a deal-breaker for me (I don’t have the room to keep a Sonos or Squeezebox as well, just for radio).
Unfortunately the info on Bryston’s web site and forum seems contradictory and most is only available *after* you own a BDP1. Could you answer a few simple questions to help me decide, please?
1) Will the BDP1 work with a NAS?
2) I have ripped my CDs in Apple Lossless format - do I have to convert them to FLAC to use the BDP1?
3) Does an external USB HDD need to be formatted in FAT32 to work with the BDP1? (you say the latest f.w. can read/write NTFS, but elsewhere you said FAT32 is required for something).
4) I plan to use my iPod (Touch, 3rd Generation) & iPad (original) as remotes – what’s the best software? A desktop solution would be useful occasionally (I have a PC with IE9 and I can’t get along with Chrome or Firefox – should I use Gnome?).
5) You say the latest f.w. includes 16 Internet radio stations (probably enough – I mostly listen to Radio Paradise lately) but on one of your posts you mentioned a guy had found a way to listen to any station – ring any bells?
Sorry if it’s a long list.
Regards and thanks in advance,
Paul
Hi Paul,
1. Currently No – we have tried the NAS route and prefer a hard connection with attached USB drives. The BDP-1 is a NAS so you can copy files to the attached drives over your network if you wish. We are looking at providing a USB docking bay that would take plug in SATA drives and cosmetically match the BDP-1 going forward.
2. No problem the BDP-1 will play Apple Lossless but we recommend FLAC because it is an open system and no one owns the rights to it. It also works great with Album art etc.
3. The BDP-1 can read FAT32 or NTSF it was just it could not write to NTSF until recently – new software
4. Yes download MPOD and MPAD from the Apple APP store – MPOD is free and works on iTouch and iPad and MPAD is $2.98 and is a superb program. There are also 2 Bryston interfaces built into the BDP-1 software called MINI and MAX that you can use on any computer that sees a web browser. GNOME is great and does not need a browser to work – it connects directly to the BDP-1 over the network.
5. Yes we have selected a variety of high quality radio stations that are preloaded – Radio Paradise is one. Yes in GNOME you can save a station using the URL to a playlist. We are also looking at expanding that feature going forward so you can connect to Shoutcast.
Hope this helps Paul.
james
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Any suggestions for OS X users for ripping to Flac format? Any experience with Music Lab 10? Also is there a site for downloading Gnome for OS X that is self install?
Steve
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I use the Netgear Powerline Adapter Kit. It connects the BDP1 wirelessly and I have no trouble with internet radio streaming. It also helps with album art and artist and album info. Try it. If you don't like it, return it.
I use the TRENDnet TEW-654TR (http://www.trendnet.com/products/proddetail.asp?prod=175_TEW-654TR&cat=77) for anything that is too far away for cables. Works like a charm (BluRay and hdtv are no problem whatsoever), and with some searching you can find nice deals.
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hi, Folks!
does Firefox 6 supports Minion? :scratch:
thanx,
al.
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hi, Folks!
does Firefox 6 supports Minion? :scratch:
thanx,
al.
My version of Firefox attempted to update itself to v6 and it said Minion was not compatable.
James has a manual workarond though.
Basically you edit the Minion config file which is part of the install package to say it's Firefox v6 compatable. Doing this will allow Minion to be reinstalled and it'll work.
Let Google be your friend for more info
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ok, Terry. thanks! :thumb:
al.
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Does the BDP-1 have to be connected to a computer or home network via Ethernet cable to be controlled by an iPad or iPod or can it speak to such devices wirelessly?
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Does the BDP-1 have to be connected to a computer or home network via Ethernet cable to be controlled by an iPad or iPod or can it speak to such devices wirelessly?
Yes, it needs to be connected via an Ethernet cable for remote access via an iPad, iPod, SmartPhone, etc...
George
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Does the BDP-1 have to be connected to a computer or home network via Ethernet cable to be controlled by an iPad or iPod or can it speak to such devices wirelessly?
You can use a second dedicated router for wireless control just connected directly to the BDP-1 if you want (Man-cave option) which keeps it separate from the main house network.
james
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Does the BDP-1 have to be connected to a computer or home network via Ethernet cable to be controlled by an iPad or iPod or can it speak to such devices wirelessly?
You can also use this type of device. Its small and can be powered by the BDP-1 usb port, or a regular power outlet.
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6613567&CatId=2704
Rick
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You can also use this type of device. Its small and can be powered by the BDP-1 usb port, or a regular power outlet.
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6613567&CatId=2704
Rick
Thanks, everyone. Very helpful. I would need something like this device as the point of the BDP for me would be to NOT have a computer nearby.
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Thanks, everyone. Very helpful. I would need something like this device as the point of the BDP for me would be to NOT have a computer nearby.
I would use the TRENDnet TEW-654TR (http://www.trendnet.com/products/proddetail.asp?prod=175_TEW-654TR&cat=77) for anything that is too far away for cables. It is better than the Netgear one, even though it is built in the same factory.
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You can use a second dedicated router for wireless control just connected directly to the BDP-1 if you want (Man-cave option) which keeps it separate from the main house network.
james
Does that router needs to be connected to internet, if not using an ipod or ipad do you have the choice of using either the max, mini or mpod, mpad with no interet connection. Also if you want to connect your BDP-1 on your home network, does it have to be hardwired to your router or is there a way to connect it wireless (like with add another router or network adapter) as my desktop computer and internet connection is far from my sound system. I try to gather all the information I can get on the different way to control the player to know what will be needed to buy in addition to the BDP-1. I plan to connect it to my BP26 w/dac at first then go with the BDA-1 when my budget will permit and use an ipod or ipad to control the player. Thank you.
Gilles
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Hi all,
I think I post it wrong, so one more try, sorry.
Does that router needs to be connected to internet, if no connection needed, using an ipod or ipad do you have the choice of using either the max, mini or mpod, mpad with no interet connection. Also if you want to connect your BDP-1 on your home network, does it have to be hardwired to your router or is there a way to connect it wireless (like with add another router or network adapter) as my desktop computer and internet connection is far from my sound system. I try to gather all the information I can get on the different way to control the player to know what will be needed to buy in addition to the BDP-1. I plan to connect it to my BP26 w/dac at first then go with the BDA-1 when my budget will permit and use an ipod or ipad to control the player. Thank you.
Gilles
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is it possible to order the bdp-1 with a high quality RCA jack instead of the BNC?
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is it possible to order the bdp-1 with a high quality RCA jack instead of the BNC?
Hi,
We could probably do that for you as a special but BNC is a true 75Ohm connector so I would recommend it over an RCA.
james
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Hi all,
I think I post it wrong, so one more try, sorry.
Does that router needs to be connected to internet, if no connection needed, using an ipod or ipad do you have the choice of using either the max, mini or mpod, mpad with no interet connection. Also if you want to connect your BDP-1 on your home network, does it have to be hardwired to your router or is there a way to connect it wireless (like with add another router or network adapter) as my desktop computer and internet connection is far from my sound system. I try to gather all the information I can get on the different way to control the player to know what will be needed to buy in addition to the BDP-1. I plan to connect it to my BP26 w/dac at first then go with the BDA-1 when my budget will permit and use an ipod or ipad to control the player. Thank you.
Gilles
Hi Gilles,
Yes you can connect a dedicated router to the BDP-1 and use any wireless device to connect to it - I call it my ManCave option.
james
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Even if I don't have access to the internet. Thanks
Hi Gilles,
Yes you can connect a dedicated router to the BDP-1 and use any wireless device to connect to it - I call it my ManCave option.
james
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Even if I don't have access to the internet. Thanks
Correct - send me an email at jamestanner@bryston.com and I will send you a 'how to' paper.
james
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Correct - send me an email at jamestanner@bryston.com and I will send you a 'how to' paper.
james.
Hi James, I think I will be needing the same help as Gilles do.Need a dedicated router set up just for the Bdp-1.Will email you my regarding this .Thank you.
Din
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I'm thinking about picking up a BDP-1. I will be using the internal DAC of a Simaudio Supernova CD player. I'm just wondering if anyone else out there has used their BDP-1 with the Supernovas DAC. Your impresions of the combo would be appreciated.
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Well, showing my impatience here. Rather than wait for your responses, I placed an order for a BDP-1 today. Should be a couple of weeks. In the meantime, can someone tell me what software I should be downloading to use with it? I have a MacBook Pro with Lion and a iPad1. Comments and suggestions would be appreciated.
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Well, showing my impatience here. Rather than wait for your responses, I placed an order for a BDP-1 today. Should be a couple of weeks. In the meantime, can someone tell me what software I should be downloading to use with it? I have a MacBook Pro with Lion and a iPad1. Comments and suggestions would be appreciated.
Hi
Does your CD player Dac do Native high resolution decoding -above 44.1?
James
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James: Yes, it will do up to 352.8kHz. 24 bit.
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James: Yes, it will do up to 352.8kHz. 24 bit.
Ok great - should work well with the BDP.
James
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Ok great - should work well with the BDP.
James
James: I see that you say "native". I now am not sure based on that. This is directly from the Supernovas spec sheet:
- Internal upsampling which uses 24-bit/352.8kHz processing.
- Ultra high-perfromance 24-bit BurrBrown PCM1798 DAC/digital filter.
Will this still work?
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James: I see that you say "native". I now am not sure based on that. This is directly from the Supernovas spec sheet:
- Internal upsampling which uses 24-bit/352.8kHz processing.
- Ultra high-perfromance 24-bit BurrBrown PCM1798 DAC/digital filter.
Will this still work?
It will work but as I suspected it upsamples the 44.1 file rather than play a native file at say 96/24 or 192/24.
There are very few Dacs that will play native 192/24 -the BDA is one of course.
James
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It will work but as I suspected it upsamples the 44.1 file rather than play a native file at say 96/24 or 192/24.
There are very few Dacs that will play native 192/24 -the BDA is one of course.
James
Wow...that is what I was afraid of. I purchased the Supernova for this purpose, because it also had the CDP built in as well as the ability to plug external digital sources into it and utilize its DAC. Now I fear that I won't be getting any significant improvement over a CD.
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Wow...that is what I was afraid of. I purchased the Supernova for this purpose, because it also had the CDP built in as well as the ability to plug external digital sources into it and utilize its DAC. Now I fear that I won't be getting any significant improvement over a CD.
Fortunately I think you will find ripped CD's through the BDP will sound better than the CD player direct. I think you will have to think about adding the Bryston BDA Dac at some point in the future if you want to play the new high resolution digital files.
James
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Fortunately I think you will find ripped CD's through the BDP will sound better than the CD player direct. I think you will have to think about adding the Bryston BDA Dac at some point in the future if you want to play the new high resolution digital files.
James
James:
If the incoming signal is already a native 96 kHz or even a 192 kHz signal, isn't the DAC going to just take that signal and upsample it to 352.8 being the maximum ability of the DAC? I don't quite understand the issue.
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James:
If the incoming signal is already a native 96 kHz or even a 192 kHz signal, isn't the DAC going to just take that signal and upsample it to 352.8 being the maximum ability of the DAC? I don't quite understand the issue.
Hi
I am not that familiar with your Dac but I assume as you do it will upsample to the highest setting. I have found though that listening to the native file usually sounds better.
James
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I believe the digital input is only good for 44k input, so won't do hi-res.
If you want that, you'll need a new DAC that's capable of that.
The choice is getting larger every day for that.
At present, your DAC is good for ripped and downloaded CDs only
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I believe the digital input is only good for 44k input, so won't do hi-res.
If you want that, you'll need a new DAC that's capable of that.
The choice is getting larger every day for that.
At present, your DAC is good for ripped and downloaded CDs only
This is directly from Simaudio: "The SuperNova does not use a sample-rate converter circuit (SRC) to convert the incoming data to any pre-defined sampling frequency before D/A conversion. That said, it will process the data at whatever rate it is sent. The SuperNova will accept data at 44.1, 48, 88.2, 96, 176.4
and 192kHz, and process it at those respective frequencies."
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This is directly from Simaudio: "The SuperNova does not use a sample-rate converter circuit (SRC) to convert the incoming data to any pre-defined sampling frequency before D/A conversion. That said, it will process the data at whatever rate it is sent. The SuperNova will accept data at 44.1, 48, 88.2, 96, 176.4
and 192kHz, and process it at those respective frequencies."
Ok great - looks like it will work :thumb:
james
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Ok great - looks like it will work :thumb:
james
That just lost you a sale of a BDA but saved me $2000. A bit of a relief. I'll likely get a BDA sometime down the road, but I just wasn't ready to get one at the moment. Thanks for your feedback.
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Well, showing my impatience here. Rather than wait for your responses, I placed an order for a BDP-1 today. Should be a couple of weeks. In the meantime, can someone tell me what software I should be downloading to use with it? I have a MacBook Pro with Lion and a iPad1. Comments and suggestions would be appreciated.
Mpad
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Mpad
I assume that software is for the iPad1?
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I assume that software is for the iPad1?
Correct - you can download 2 apps - MPOD - is free and MPAD - is $2.98. They both work great.
james
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"I assume that software is for the iPad1?"
*******
I use MPad with an MPad1 and it works great. Once you start to use the BDP-1 and iPad, the racks of CDs and CD player will look rather quaint.
I also continue to read some of the Mac mini/music server threads and the angst about which software, USB interface, etc. to use and think who whats that hassle for what is, after all of the work, a kluge.
Steve
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"I assume that software is for the iPad1?"
*******
I use MPad with an MPad1 and it works great. Once you start to use the BDP-1 and iPad, the racks of CDs and CD player will look rather quaint.
I also continue to read some of the Mac mini/music server threads and the angst about which software, USB interface, etc. to use and think who whats that hassle for what is, after all of the work, a kluge.
Steve
MPad seems to be a game controlling app of some sort at $.99. Doesn't quite appear right to me, but perhaps it is.
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I ended up downloading MPod and I can't even get beyond the "Connection Setup". I can't seem to find any explanation on where the connection name, mode, server, etc., that I am supposed to type into the spaces.
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I ended up downloading MPod and I can't even get beyond the "Connection Setup". I can't seem to find any explanation on where the connection name, mode, server, etc., that I am supposed to type into the spaces.
Do you have the BDP-1 now?
james
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MPad seems to be a game controlling app of some sort at $.99. Doesn't quite appear right to me, but perhaps it is.
Go to the APPs store and type in MPAD under search.
james
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Not yet. I just want to have everything setup and ready to go when it arrives.
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Not yet. I just want to have everything setup and ready to go when it arrives.
OK you need the BDP in order to connect :thumb:
James
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OK you need the BDP in order to connect :thumb:
James
Ah.....ok.
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I just found out that HD Tracks are only downloadable in the US. That sucks!
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I just found out that HD Tracks are only downloadable in the US. That sucks!
No you can pay with paypal from anywhere, I am in the Uk and it is no problem.
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No you can pay with paypal from anywhere, I am in the Uk and it is no problem.
ok, didn't try purchasing anything because I read that downloads are just for US customers. Thats good to know. I am in Canada.
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Here s another site:
http://www.channelclassics.com/
It's located in Holland but I have no problem downloading to USA.
Steve
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hi, Bluemark!
...basically the BDP-1 is an "out-of-the-box-and-ready-to-play" unit so you don't really need to download (if any) software to play your files. furthermore the player has the Bryston Max (for computers) and Bryston Mini (for handheld devices), Gnome and Minion if you want to control the BDP-1 via your computer.
software updates are available and should be done, of course.
al.
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I managed very well for the 1st few weeks using just the front panel controls
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Thanks guys. I didn't want to get the unit only to find out I need to have a bunch of software and other things first. I guess I'm getting ahead of myself.
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How does the BDP-1 handle internet radio? How would you look up and select stations, and play them?
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How does the BDP-1 handle internet radio? How would you look up and select stations, and play them?
http://www.youtube.com/embed/NOggDwajyNs?hl=en&fs=1 (http://www.youtube.com/embed/NOggDwajyNs?hl=en&fs=1)
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http://www.youtube.com/embed/NOggDwajyNs?hl=en&fs=1 (http://www.youtube.com/embed/NOggDwajyNs?hl=en&fs=1)
Eeek! That's what I was afraid of. But thank you, this was informative.
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I think that I will stick to my Squeezebox Touch/BDA-1 combination for internet radio unless/until BDP-1 radio service becomes more user friendly.
Steve
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I think that I will stick to my Squeezebox Touch/BDA-1 combination for internet radio unless/until BDP-1 radio service becomes more user friendly.
Steve
The BDP was never really designed for Internet radio so I would say definitely stick with the Touch or similar products if that is your main source of listening.
James
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"The BDP was never really designed for Internet radio"
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Exactly...That's the nice thing about the BDA-1; with 8 inputs, I can hook up IPad/Pod dock, Apple TV, Touch, CD transport, BDP-1, etc. and switch inputs with Logitech. That said, 90% of time it's on AES/EBU BDP-1. :>)
Steve
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What length are the power cables supplied with the BDP-1 and BDA-1?
Any real benefit to upgrading from the supplied power cabling on either or both units?
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What length are the power cables supplied with the BDP-1 and BDA-1?
Any real benefit to upgrading from the supplied power cabling on either or both units?
They are 1.5M each. I have swapped both for aftermarket cables. I find it gives a bit more in the way of clarity.
Kyri
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Thank you for the info.
Are you using the BNC or AES/EBU connection between them?
I see alot of conflicting opinion on this subject out there. The rest of my
system is running fully balanced, but reviewers seem to prefer the BNC connection.
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I woudn't pay too much attention to what reviewers say.
They're not listening to your system afterall.
Try both and stich with the one which sounds best to you.
I chose AES but that was my choice for my system which I'll bet is different to yours?
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Normally I would completely agree. I have ordered both the BDP-1 and BDA-1 without being able to hear either of them first as none of my local dealers are stocking or offering demo's on them. I have never done this before, but with Bryston, I am thinking it is a safe bet. I would rather avoid having to purchase both cables if I don't have to. Both cables would be considered special orders and I cannot return the one I don't like. I can always sell on Auduigon at a loss, but would like to avoid the trouble if possible. Please tell me what specifically you preferred about the AES/EBU over the BNC connection.
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Normally I would completely agree. I have ordered both the BDP-1 and BDA-1 without being able to hear either of them first as none of my local dealers are stocking or offering demo's on them. I have never done this before, but with Bryston, I am thinking it is a safe bet. I would rather avoid having to purchase both cables if I don't have to. Both cables would be considered special orders and I cannot return the one I don't like. I can always sell on Auduigon at a loss, but would like to avoid the trouble if possible. Please tell me what specifically you preferred about the AES/EBU over the BNC connection.
For what it's worth, I spent a couple of weeks with Kimber Select S/pdif and AES/EBU cables thru the BDA1 and BDP1. They are excellent cables. I found that the AES/EBU offered a fuller, more analog sound while the S/PDIF was a bit more detailed but a bit thinner sound. But as Terry said, it really will come down to one's preference.
Hope this helps.
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AES sounded like music and BNC sounded like a recording.
This is somewhat exagerated as the differences were subtle.
There again, others heared it differently and prefer BNC.
A lot of dealers and on-line sellers do sale or return
I presume you're in the USA so try The Cable Company.
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That is helpful. Thank you.
Did you find a difference in imaging?
Sound staging depth and width as some reviewers have suggested?
As a point of reference, they will be run with an ARC LS17, Bryston 4B SST2 and Magnepan 1.7's.
Audioquest CV-8 speaker cable and Columbia balanced cables.
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AES sounded like music and BNC sounded like a recording.
This is somewhat exagerated as the differences were subtle.
There again, others heared it differently and prefer BNC.
A lot of dealers and on-line sellers do sale or return
I presume you're in the USA so try The Cable Company.
Terry, if you order from The Cable Company, aren't you obligated to purchase some cable from them? I thought I once read this in their literature.
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Don't know mate.
Can you order one of each and return the one you don't like?
I like Pure Note cables and they do sale or return, no questions asked.
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Normally I would completely agree. I have ordered both the BDP-1 and BDA-1 without being able to hear either of them first as none of my local dealers are stocking or offering demo's on them. I have never done this before, but with Bryston, I am thinking it is a safe bet. I would rather avoid having to purchase both cables if I don't have to. Both cables would be considered special orders and I cannot return the one I don't like. I can always sell on Auduigon at a loss, but would like to avoid the trouble if possible. Please tell me what specifically you preferred about the AES/EBU over the BNC connection.
I can't hear any difference but if you want to test for your self, you can order high quality pro cables at a fair price.
example:
http://www.markertek.com/Cables/Audio-Cables/XLR-to-XLR-Cables/TecNec-Cables-Connectors/MSC1-5XXJ.xhtml?MSC15XXJ
http://www.markertek.com/Cables/Video-Cables/Video-Patch-Cables/Canare-Corporation-Of-America/VAC010F.xhtml
If you prefer one or the other, then you can buy the boutique cable with the cryo treated quantum copper wire and the un-obtanium cosmic ray reflecting cover; for just a few thousand more.
Steve
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Don't know mate.
Can you order one of each and return the one you don't like?
I like Pure Note cables and they do sale or return, no questions asked.
Best to read the return policy before you order anything from The Cable Co.
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Here is another custom cable site, I haven't used them but mark-up looks reasonable for the quality of components, especially if you want XHADOW connectors.
http://www.soundoctor.com/cables.htm
Steve
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Here is another custom cable site, I haven't used them but mark-up looks reasonable for the quality of components, especially if you want XHADOW connectors.
http://www.soundoctor.com/cables.htm
Steve
Cables are like audiophiles' audiofools' jewelry :lol:
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Cables are like audiophiles' audiofools' jewelry :lol:
That's why the manufacturers name them after jewels...Diamond, Saphire..etc.,etc.
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Cables are like audiophiles' audiofools' jewelry :lol:
Especially when you research the cost of the components that go into the kilo-buck cables and then calculate the mark-up...yikes.
Steve
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Especially when you research the cost of the components that go into the kilo-buck cables and then calculate the mark-up...yikes.
Steve
Talking of which, have you seen inside a Naim external power supply and what they charge for them?
They're taking their customers for mugs!!!
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Thank you for the info.
Are you using the BNC or AES/EBU connection between them?
I see alot of conflicting opinion on this subject out there. The rest of my
system is running fully balanced, but reviewers seem to prefer the BNC connection.
I use the balanced connection. Many reviewers like the BNC, but I really do like the sound a balanced connection provides. Again, I think it's more accurate.
Kyri
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Not sure if this is the best place to post this, but I will start here anyway. I finally got my BDP-1 last week and got it all connected to my network. I have it working fine using Bryston's Max interface. The internet radio stations are great.
As an alternative to Max, I've added the Minion add-on to Firefox, but I can't seem to get it to work. I've added the bdp-1 server as my host under manage servers, but it does not work at all. I am using a macbook pro os 10.7.2 (lion). I've also tried adding the ip of the bryston versus the path, but still nothing. Does anyone have any suggestions other than just use Max?
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Not sure if this is the best place to post this, but I will start here anyway. I finally got my BDP-1 last week and got it all connected to my network. I have it working fine using Bryston's Max interface. The internet radio stations are great.
As an alternative to Max, I've added the Minion add-on to Firefox, but I can't seem to get it to work. I've added the bdp-1 server as my host under manage servers, but it does not work at all. I am using a macbook pro os 10.7.2 (lion). I've also tried adding the ip of the bryston versus the path, but still nothing. Does anyone have any suggestions other than just use Max?
Hi blue,
Minion seems to have a problem with the latest versions of Firefox. It worked fine on previous versions. I have a file that seems to work so email me at jamestanner@bryston.com and I will send it. You just drag and drop it on top of Firefox. seems to work for me and a number of others that have tried it.
james
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Hi blue,
Minion seems to have a problem with the latest versions of Firefox. It worked fine on previous versions. I have a file that seems to work so email me at jamestanner@bryston.com and I will send it. You just drag and drop it on top of Firefox. seems to work for me and a number of others that have tried it.
james
James,
you mean that the file will work with the latest Firefox?
al.
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James,
you mean that the file will work with the latest Firefox?
al.
Hi al
Yes the fellow that created Minion says this file should work up to version 9. I find it does on my MAC laptop and Windows 7. Some say it does not.
james
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Hi James,
I'd like to give it a go and mailed you just now.
Greetings!
Marius
Hi al
Yes the fellow that created Minion says this file should work up to version 9. I find it does on my MAC laptop and Windows 7. Some say it does not.
james
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*sigh, hoping that it can be used with NAS in the future.
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*sigh, hoping that it can be used with NAS in the future.
Hi,
I would not count on that - do not want to mislead anyone.
james
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Is there a way to connect the digital out on a Wadia 170i dock to the USB on the BDP-1? I've searched for a cable to convert the two as well as adapters, but have had no luck. It would be nice to be able to connect them and use the 44.1 kHz music files stored on my iPod as opposed to connecting my computer via USB to the BDP-1 each time.
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Not going to work as they do two entirely different things.
Why not connect the Wadia output to whatever the BDP-1 is connected to?
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I have the Cambridge Audio equivalent IPod dock and have it connected to my BDA via SPDIF coax. From previous discussions, the IPod/Pad can't be connected to the BDP as an USB drive.
Steve
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Not going to work as they do two entirely different things.
Why not connect the Wadia output to whatever the BDP-1 is connected to?
Because then I would have to disconnect the BDP-1 as it is connected to my Simaudio Supernova CD players digital input. Everyone says everything seems to sound better through the BDP-1, so I was hoping to try it out. I was hoping to connect the Wadia to one of the 4 USB ports and leave it there as opposed to disconnecting the BDP-1 each time I wanted to use the Wadia. The other option I suppose is to get a dedicated DAC.
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Another option would be to get an S/PDIF switch box like the Inday.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=36136)
http://www.inday.com/da4x/da4x.htm (http://www.inday.com/da4x/da4x.htm)
Steve
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Hi there
Hopefully I have posted this to the right spot. Just wondering if the BDP-1 will play 24 bit ALAC flies. Does not seem to work on my setup.
Regards
Terry
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My ALAC library plays fine. I just copied my iTunes music files (at the artist folder level) to an appropriate external HDD.
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Thanks for the prompt reply. I should have been clearer. 16 bit ALAC play fine as do hi rez Flac files. However, cannot get hi rez 24 bit ALAC files to play.
Regards Terry.
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Thanks for the prompt reply. I should have been clearer. 16 bit ALAC play fine as do hi rez Flac files. However, cannot get hi rez 24 bit ALAC files to play.
Regards Terry.
Hi Terry
Where can I get 24bit ALAC to test?
james
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Hi James, I will send to your email account, Terry
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Hi. I have just ordered a BDP-1 and BDA-1 to drive my new Bryston/PMC system and I am now working out what kit I need to feed it with digital music files. I am thinking about controlling the equipment initially with a laptop (on my home wi-fi network) and a universal remote. So I will try out Max and GNOME. I understand that the BDP-1 can be hard-wired with ethernet cable to my wireless router for receipt of control signals from the remote control device (laptop). I may invest later in an Ipad.
I am more intrigued now about how and where to store ripped CD FLAC files and how to feed them to the BDP-1. I plan to use my desktop PC to rip CD's (using dbPoweramp or EAC) to FLAC files on my PC's second hard drive and I would ideally like to drag and drop them onto a networked storage device connected by ethernet cable rather than having to keep unplugging USB devices and moving them back and forth from computer room to lounge. Although I am sure I will make some use of USB flash drives and maybe a USB powered HDD (like the WD Pssport Essential SE) I am keen to be able to directly select music from my entire CD collection and any high res downloads I acquire over the next few years, so I will want to connect a couple of large hard drives to the BDP-1.
In the absence of a Bryston dedicated NAS drive I am attracted to the Synology DS211j NAS http://www.synology.com/us/products/DS211j/index.php
which adds all sorts of additional functionality to being a bay for two hard drives. It could double as a back-up file server for all my family's computers and could ocasionally be used to stream music, photos and video to any devices on my home wi-fi network (and over the net to anywhere else) as well as feeding the BDP-1 with FLAC files via its USB output. It is a powered device containing computer circuitry - 1.2GHz Marvell Kirwood CPU, 128MB DDR2 RAM with support for JBOD, RAID 0 and RAID 1 arrays plus iSCSI support - so it is basically a low power computer as well as a data storage device. I imagine any objection to using this with the BDP-1 will be the risk of noise contamination degrading the audio chain? It runs very quietly apparently and could be located well away from the hifi or in a cupboard by using a long USB cable. It has many very good customer reviews over here in the UK but has anyone actually tried it with the BDP-1? Is there any reason why I should not go down this route? I would obviously not want to compromise sound quality.
James, when is the planned Bryston USB file server going to come out?
And a merry Xmas to everyone!
Nigel
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"I plan to use my desktop PC to rip CD's (using dbPoweramp or EAC) to FLAC files on my PC's second hard drive and I would ideally like to drag and drop them onto a networked storage device "
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I think that you are over thinking the situation. The USB drive/s that are connected to the BDP-1 show up as drives on the network. So it's just drag and drop from computer to BDP-1. If you rip 10s of albums at a sitting, it's more time efficient to transfer files directly rather than over the network.
Steve
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The BDP-1 requires a directly attached USB drive for music file storage. The USB port on the Synology NAS is a USB host port to connect peripherals (a USB drive, a USB printer, a USB wireless network dongle, etc.) to be shared on the network, however it cannot be connected to another host (another computer or the BDP-1) to provide connectivity to its internal drives.
Steve
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The USB drive/s that are connected to the BDP-1 show up as drives on the network. So it's just drag and drop from computer to BDP-1. If you rip 10s of albums at a sitting, it's more time efficient to transfer files directly rather than over the network.
Steve
Thanks Steve. When you say "over the network" do you mean wirelessly? I am assuming that the drag and drop transfer would send the data down hard-wired ethernet cable linking my PC to the BDP-1 via my router? Or when you say "it's more time efficient to transfer files directly rather than over the network" do you mean unplugging a USB hard drive or flash drive from the BDP, inserting it in the PC's USB socket and then dragging and dropping on the PC from internal to external drive? I was hoping to be able to transfer files from the PC to a hard drive connected to the BDP-1 without having to unplug devices. Appreciate your guidance.
Nigel
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The USB port on the Synology NAS is a USB host port to connect peripherals (a USB drive, a USB printer, a USB wireless network dongle, etc.) to be shared on the network, however it cannot be connected to another host (another computer or the BDP-1) to provide connectivity to its internal drives.
Steve
Glad I asked first then! But are you sure? If, as is apparently the case, reading a review, the Synology's USB ports can be used "to add further storage and backup specific content to thumb drives" then data files can clearly be transferred out via the USB, so why could that data not be seen and read by a connected BDP-1?
Nigel
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Glad I asked first then! But are you sure? If, as is apparently the case, reading a review, the Synology's USB ports can be used "to add further storage and backup specific content to thumb drives" then data files can clearly be transferred out via the USB, so why could that data not be seen and read by a connected BDP-1?
Nigel
Thumb drives are not hosts and the BDP-1 is (as is the NAS). Best way to confirm is to hold the ends of a USB cable in your hands while looking at the ports on the NAS and BDP-1; it should be clear that it won't work.
Sam
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Thanks Steve. When you say "over the network" do you mean wirelessly? I am assuming that the drag and drop transfer would send the data down hard-wired ethernet cable linking my PC to the BDP-1 via my router? Or when you say "it's more time efficient to transfer files directly rather than over the network" do you mean unplugging a USB hard drive or flash drive from the BDP, inserting it in the PC's USB socket and then dragging and dropping on the PC from internal to external drive? I was hoping to be able to transfer files from the PC to a hard drive connected to the BDP-1 without having to unplug devices. Appreciate your guidance.
Nigel
I am not an expert on this stuff but...for example, I have a wireless router to which my BDP-1 is hard wired, the alternative would be to use a D-link power line adapter or lastly a travel adapter such as trendnet tew-654. It is my understanding that the BDP-1/internet connection performs two main functions: control of the BDP and access for album art. In addition, the USB drives attached to the USB show up on you home network so that music file may be transferred wireless from your PC/Mac to the BDP-1 attached USB drive.
As far a transfer efficiency, when I was ripping my CD collection, I might have 20-30 albums to be transferred at one sitting.. It was more time efficient to attach the BDP-1 drive directly to the USB port on my Mac than to transfer via wireless. Now that I just transfer a song or a few albums, I rarely do direct transfer.
Steve
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The BDP-1 requires a directly attached USB drive for music file storage. The USB port on the Synology NAS is a USB host port to connect peripherals (a USB drive, a USB printer, a USB wireless network dongle, etc.) to be shared on the network, however it cannot be connected to another host (another computer or the BDP-1) to provide connectivity to its internal drives.
Steve
Not being into computers I am learning slowly here. I understand what you mean by two hosts and that you would normally use a USB port to attach a peripheral device to a host computer (or a BDP-1), but I don't understand where the line is drawn between a storage device whose files the BDP-1 can read and one which it cannot. If it cannot connect via USB and play the music files on the Synology's hard drives, what about the Lacie device which seems functionally very similar: http://www.lacie.com/uk/products/product.htm?id=10491 ? I thought someone said that did work with the BDP-1? It boasts both ethernet and USB interfaces.
Failing that, the BDP-1 obviously can read the files on external hard drives like the WD My Books, Essentials and the portable Passports which James recommends. But you would still want to keep the music files safely somewhere else - i.e. another hard drive or NAS.
Is there no NAS which directly interfaces via USB with the Bryston and which can also be used as a principal media storage for streaming to other devices (e.g. video and photo files)?
Nigel
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As far a transfer efficiency, when I was ripping my CD collection, I might have 20-30 albums to be transferred at one sitting.. It was more time efficient to attach the BDP-1 drive directly to the USB port on my Mac than to transfer via wireless. Now that I just transfer a song or a few albums, I rarely do direct transfer.
Steve
Steve, so where do you keep your music files? Do you have them only on USB thumb drives and external USB hard drives connected to the Bryston or do you have a back-up on your Mac as well?
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what about the Lacie device which seems functionally very similar: http://www.lacie.com/uk/products/product.htm?id=10491 (http://www.lacie.com/uk/products/product.htm?id=10491) ? I thought someone said that did work with the BDP-1? It boasts both ethernet and USB interfaces.
The USB port on the LaCie NAS is for direct connection to a computer (or the BDP-1) in lieu of the Ethernet network connection, they cannot be used simultaneously.
Steve
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The USB port on the LaCie NAS is for direct connection to a computer (or the BDP-1) in lieu of the Ethernet network connection, they cannot be used simultaneously.
Steve
Presumably it could simultanously be connected to a home network by ethernet and connected to the BDP-1 by USB, so that it could be used as a network server and principal data store whenever it was not being used to play files on the Bryston? I could live with that!
Nigel
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Presumably it could simultanously be connected to a home network by ethernet and connected to the BDP-1 by USB, so that it could be used as a network server and principle data store whenever it was not being used to play files on the Bryston? I could live with that!
LaCie advises to disconnect the Ethernet connection when using USB.
http://manuals.lacie.com/en/manuals/ns2-nsmax/usb (http://manuals.lacie.com/en/manuals/ns2-nsmax/usb)
If your network is limited to 10/100 megabit transfer speeds or if you use Wi-Fi, the USB connection will generally permit faster transfer rates. In such cases, LaCie suggests that you copy large quantities of files from your computer to your LaCie network storage via USB. Please note that your network storage device should not be connected to the network while it is attached to a computer via USB
Steve
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Steve, so where do you keep your music files? Do you have them only on USB thumb drives and external USB hard drives connected to the Bryston or do you have a back-up on your Mac as well?
I have backup on a separate external HD, just for music files and on Mac OSX "Time Machine" backup on a RAID.
Steve
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Thanks guys for your help. It looks like it boils down to having quite separate storage devices with USB thumb drives and external hard drives (powered or low current USB powered) reserved for the Bryston and completely independent network attached storage and/or external powered hard drives for PC back-up and central data storage. Which, for shifting ripped CD and high res download files, means either unplugging the Bryston's USB drive(s) and plugging into a networked PC for direct drag and drop file transfer, or transfer over the network from PC to the USB drive plugged into the Bryston. Hard-wired ethernet connections would presumably be needed for reliable and faster transfer than wireless connection.
Nigel
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From: Paul
Sent: August-16-11 5:33 AM
To: Bryston - James Tanner
Subject: Bryston BDP-1, BDA-1
The BDP-1 can read FAT32 or NTSF it was just it could not write to NTSF until recently – new software
james
James, re this new software, does this mean you can now write over the network to a HDD attached to the BDP-1 if the drive is formatted NTSF rather than FAT32?
Nigel
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James, re this new software, does this mean you can now write over the network to a HDD attached to the BDP-1 if the drive is formatted NTSF rather than FAT32?
Nigel
Hi Nigel,
Yes you can write to both Fat32 and NTSF
FAT32 is cross platform compatible and hard to imagine support for it ever going away on any platform due to it being ubiquitous.
"Formatting a drive for FAT32 is not difficult on a Mac of Linux desktop. Unfortunately, Microsoft has removed support for creating a FAT32 volume from it's drive manager. This is likely because of the very cross platform compatibility discussed above.
Fortunately there are free small applications that can be used on Windows 7 to make FAT32 format volumes up to 2 TB in size.
Changing the format of a new drive for FAT32 is also very quick with any of the available tools.
Other drive formats like NTFS and HFS+ gain the listener nothing when used in the application of music playback. NTFS and HFS+ may actually bring unneeded baggage, including security and permissions issues the customer may accidentally engage, along with them. And the new software included with major brand NTFS formatted drives to make them work with Mac OS may very well present problems with all computer systems when it comes to reliability and speed. The new Seagate drives, for example, take longer to show up when connected to a Windows computer than is typical with other drives.
As always, the simple solution that does the job is best."
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I am using an iPod Touch/iPad and MacBook Pro for control of the BDP-1. I have a Harmony remote for the control of my other equipment. Does anyone know if the Harmony remotes can be used to control the BDP-1? I do not have Bryston's remote, so I would not be able to learn the commands from it, so I would have to rely on the Harmony database of commands. Thanks
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I am using an iPod Touch/iPad and MacBook Pro for control of the BDP-1. I have a Harmony remote for the control of my other equipment. Does anyone know if the Harmony remotes can be used to control the BDP-1? I do not have Bryston's remote, so I would not be able to learn the commands from it, so I would have to rely on the Harmony database of commands. Thanks
The BDP is already in the harmony database, look under 'Music Player/Digital Music Server' I think it is, works fine.
Cheers
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Yes, the bdp-1 appears to be in the harmony database, but it does not seem to work. When I press the power button, the light on the bdp flickers as though it recognizes the signal, but it will not turn it on.
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Yes, the bdp-1 appears to be in the harmony database, but it does not seem to work. When I press the power button, the light on the bdp flickers as though it recognizes the signal, but it will not turn it on.
Hmm, that is strange, it works fine for me (both BDP and BDA turn on/off together). I wonder if it has to do with other settings - duration or something?
Cheers
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Hi Gilles,
Yes you can connect a dedicated router to the BDP-1 and use any wireless device to connect to it - I call it my ManCave option.
james
James,
With this mancave option will you be able to upgrade the firmware wireless.Will it show up in your computer network?Or it's strictly just for the use of the interfaces with your wireless devices with the bdp-1?Will Mpod/Mpad work in this config or only Max/Mini only? :scratch:
What router are you using?
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James,
With this mancave option will you be able to upgrade the firmware wireless.Will it show up in your computer network?Or it's strictly just for the use of the interfaces with your wireless devices with the bdp-1?Will Mpod/Mpad work in this config or only Max/Mini only? :scratch:
What router are you using?
With Mancave anything on the home network will not show up as you are independent of any networks around you so updates are not possible over the mancave network of course. You would have to connect short term to your home network router for a wireless update or replace the flash card inside the BDP.
Any of the interfaces like Mpad and Mpad, Bryston interfaces, Gnome etc work just fine with the Mancave option. :thumb:
James
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I have managed to set up my BDP-1 on my home network, my PC can see attached USB devices (the Bryston flash drive and my WD My Passport 1TB hard drive) and I am controlling everything wirelessly with a Sony S tablet (android). I can read and play flac files on my PC over the network from both devices when they are connected to the BDP-1, but when I try to drag and drop files from my PC to the Bryston over the network I can only write to the flash drive. When I try to write to the WD My Passport USB hard drive I am told I need permission, access denied. The Bryston settings page lists the drive under "writeable" as "no" whereas for the flash drive it says "yes". I have looked at the settings for the WD on my PC (properties-sharing and security) and it is set for sharing files and the box against "write" is ticked. Indeed I can write normally to the WD when it is directly attached to the PC but not when connected to the BDP-1 over the network. Any suggestions?? :scratch:
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I have managed to set up my BDP-1 on my home network, my PC can see attached USB devices (the Bryston flash drive and my WD My Passport 1TB hard drive) and I am controlling everything wirelessly with a Sony S tablet (android). I can read and play flac files on my PC over the network from both devices when they are connected to the BDP-1, but when I try to drag and drop files from my PC to the Bryston over the network I can only write to the flash drive. When I try to write to the WD My Passport USB hard drive I am told I need permission, access denied. The Bryston settings page lists the drive under "writeable" as "no" whereas for the flash drive it says "yes". I have looked at the settings for the WD on my PC (properties-sharing and security) and it is set for sharing files and the box against "write" is ticked. Indeed I can write normally to the WD when it is directly attached to the PC but not when connected to the BDP-1 over the network. Any suggestions?? :scratch:
The drive has to be formatted FAT32 or NTSF.
james
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James, the drive is formatted NTSF.
Nigel
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James, the drive is formatted NTSF.
Nigel
Hi Nigel
Not sure what is happening - do you have another drive that you can format FAT32 and see if you can write to it? Most thumbdrives come FAT32.
James
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Hi Nigel
Not sure what is happening - do you have another drive that you can format FAT32 and see if you can write to it? Most thumbdrives come FAT32.
James
Yes, I can write over the network on to the Bryston thumb drive which came with the BDP-1 and is FAT32 fomatted. But I can't write to the NTFS formatted My Passport drive unless I plug it in directly to the PC. I don't have another external hard drive which I can reformat.
On the Bryston settings page it says "README: *NTFS (Windows) volumes do not support Read/Write function currently; support is planned
*After remotely copying files to a drive, click the 'Update' button above"
Nigel
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Yes, I can write over the network on to the Bryston thumb drive which came with the BDP-1 and is FAT32 fomatted. But I can't write to the NTFS formatted My Passport drive unless I plug it in directly to the PC. I don't have another external hard drive which I can reformat.
On the Bryston settings page it says "README: *NTFS (Windows) volumes do not support Read/Write function currently; support is planned
*After remotely copying files to a drive, click the 'Update' button above"
Nigel
OK - email Chris Rice at Bryston and see if he can help. crice@bryston.com
james
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Hi Folks,
This may help if you are using newer versions of Firefox and can not get Minion Music Player to work with the BDP-1.
http://www.gargan.org/en/Mozilla_Extensions/Music_Player_Minion/
james
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Hi Folks,
This may help if you are using newer versions of Firefox and can not get Minion Music Player to work with the BDP-1.
http://www.gargan.org/en/Mozilla_Extensions/Music_Player_Minion/
james
Hmm, I installed it and everything seems to work except that I cannot add songs to the current playlist. If I add to playlist on Max, Mpad, etc. the playlist shows in Minion but I cannot create one! What am I doing wrong?
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Hmm, I installed it and everything seems to work except that I cannot add songs to the current playlist. If I add to playlist on Max, Mpad, etc. the playlist shows in Minion but I cannot create one! What am I doing wrong?
I found out that Minion has zillion options for adding tracks to the current playlist (right click, menu, etc.) but not all seem to work. The + sign for adding the selected tracks to the playlist does work. Same for deleting a track from the playlist. The right click menu does not work but using the delete button from the keyboard does. Has anyone run into this problem?
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This many have been asked before but is there anyway to access music that is on a windows home server and play on the BDP-1? Ideally controlling it with with my iPhone or iPad. I realize the comparison may have been beaten to death but I presently do so with my logitech touch and would love to be able to use the same music library. Am I dreaming?
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This many have been asked before but is there anyway to access music that is on a windows home server and play on the BDP-1? Ideally controlling it with with my iPhone or iPad. I realize the comparison may have been beaten to death but I presently do so with my logitech touch and would love to be able to use the same music library. Am I dreaming?
The BDP-1 is only a digital source component. I have a Touch connected to my BDA-1 for streaming.
Steve
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I have searched for this info, but am coming up short. I purchased a new Intel SSD (520 series - 180 GB) and am going to use it with a Dynex USB 3.0 SATA hard drive enclosure to connect it to the BDP-1 via USB cable on the bottom rear port of the BDP-1. My question is does the BDP-1 have enough juice to drive it properly?
According to what I have read, the Intel SSD uses 850mv's in use and the BDP-1's port limit is 5ma's... I know this is likely a stupid question to most, but I do not understand the difference between MA's and MV's. Is this SSD a good choice and does it have enough power to run comfortably/properly with the BDP-1 on the lower rear USB port? :duh: :scratch: :scratch:
I thank you in advance for any clarity or assistance anyone can provide.
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The Intel SSD 520 series drive uses 850mW of power. Given a 5V SATA power supply, it would require 170mA of current (850mW / 5V = 170mA) and the Bryston BDP-1 rear USB port can supply 500mA current. The Dynex external drive enclosure will also use some power for its SATA to USB circuitry, but it should be minimal compared to the drive consumption (Dynex does not list a power consumption spec for the enclosure).
I would not think there would be any problem powering that external USB drive with the BDP-1.
Steve
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I'll throw in a couple of things I've learned from James, others on the forum or through trial and error.
Hard Drive File types:
FAT32 - this is an old format that doesn't work well on larger drives but most thumb drives still come formatted using it. For now it is the only format that allows you to copy files from a PC or NAS over your network to a drive while it is connected to the BDP.
NTFS - most HDs come in this format. It works great with the BDP but you have to disconnect your HD and connect it to a PC to add music. For now you do not have the ability to copy files to a drive formatted in NTFS while it is connected to the BDP.
exFAT - a newer version of FAT32. It doesn't work with the BDP. No big loss. No one is using it anyway.
I have a larger NTFS HD preloaded with most of my library and a FAT32 thumb drive attached to my BDP. The NTFS HD remains pretty static. When I get new music I rip or copy it to a NAS and then to the thumb drive. Obviously I will move music from the thumb to the HD. This seems like a pretty good way to feed the BDP-1.
Jim
I have NTFS and I can copy files from anywhere on my network to the HDD attached to my BDP-1.
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I have NTFS and I can copy files from anywhere on my network to the HDD attached to my BDP-1.
I've been using NTFS for well over a year and copy files to it over the network while it's still attached to the BDP without issue.
My pen drive is formatted worth NTFS too that works great too except on my Oppo BLuRay player.
FAT32 has a maximum file issue.
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Hi guys....since the last mpad upgrade the manual "refresh cache" is gone which is fine but the auto refresh cache doesn't
seem to want to work for me. When I add a few cds to my hard drive sometimes it is days or several listening sessions before it will refresh.
Until it decides to do it I can't listen to the new stuff. Is there another way to prompt a refresh ? Am I missing something simple ?
thanks
Robin
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Hi guys....since the last mpad upgrade the manual "refresh cache" is gone which is fine but the auto refresh cache doesn't
seem to want to work for me. When I add a few cds to my hard drive sometimes it is days or several listening sessions before it will refresh.
Until it decides to do it I can't listen to the new stuff. Is there another way to prompt a refresh ? Am I missing something simple ?
thanks
Robin
Hi Robin
Are you using UPDATE on the Brystons Settings page after you add material? Click Settings on this page and you will see UPDATE.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=72397)
james
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Hi,
My first post here, so please be kind to me! I've got two questions:
1. Does BDP-1 work with network-attached storage these days?
2. Am I right in thinking it's a single-voltage appliance and needs to be converted from 110v to 230v if used in Europe? How difficult would it be to convert to 230v?
Many thanks and a very merry Christmas to all!
TrainDriver
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hi, James!
what is the recommended maximum length for an ethernet cable if connected between the BDP-1 and the router?
thanks,
al.
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hi, James!
what is the recommended maximum length for an ethernet cable if connected between the BDP-1 and the router?
thanks,
al.
Hi al
I have 50 feet in my setup at home.
James
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Hi,
My first post here, so please be kind to me! I've got two questions:
1. Does BDP-1 work with network-attached storage these days?
2. Am I right in thinking it's a single-voltage appliance and needs to be converted from 110v to 230v if used in Europe? How difficult would it be to convert to 230v?
Many thanks and a very merry Christmas to all!
TrainDriver
Hi
Yes we have tried a number of NAS drives with good success.
Conversion is not easy and would have to be done by the distributor in that country to make sure all safety regulations are met.
James
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hi, James!
what is the recommended maximum length for an ethernet cable if connected between the BDP-1 and the router?
thanks,
al.
Hi Al,
The theoretical limit of using cat6 Ethernet cable is 328'
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_6_cable
Cheers,
Chris
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...ok, thanks Chris! but isn't it a cat5 cable that must be used to connect the BDP-1 and the router??
al.
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...or is it that a cat5 cable is something like the minimum standard that has to be used in order to get proper system functionality?!?!
al.
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Moved to the bdp2 software thread.
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I have a 250 gig SSD drive attached to the lower rear USB port. When I turn on the BDP-1 it does not reconize and auto connect to the drive. I have to unplug it and plug it in again. The drive is FAT32. Is that normal?
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I have a 250 gig SSD drive attached to the lower rear USB port. When I turn on the BDP-1 it does not reconize and auto connect to the drive. I have to unplug it and plug it in again. The drive is FAT32. Is that normal?
Hi,
Certainly not normal - what software version are you using?
james
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The latest one on the website. Although, it might be corrupted as under systems the Internet radio tab is no longer is there. I tried to reinstall, but it failed. I will a factory restore tonight.
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Does your drive show up under drive information on the settings page?
Cheers,
Chris
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I have NTFS and I can copy files from anywhere on my network to the HDD attached to my BDP-1.
NTFS read write support was included with loony loon (S1.XX) firmware for the BDP.
Cheers,
Chris
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...ok, thanks Chris! but isn't it a cat5 cable that must be used to connect the BDP-1 and the router??
al.
Cat6 will work just fine, or there are a bunch of Fleming College grads walking around with the wrong knowledge ;)
Cheers,
Chris
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Does your drive show up under drive information on the settings page?
Cheers,
Chris
Thanks Chris and James, the Oyen MiniPro drive enclosure is the culprit. It has an optional power cable and on/switch. That seems to be the causing the problem. It would not show up on my Network either. I got a new USB powered ONLY case for my SSB Samsung 840 and it works awesome. Life is good!
BTW, the BDP-1 is the best sound I have ever had in my system. I am using Aif files to match with my iTunes library on a Mac and it is super fast. Everything works seamlessly. I can add music easily in Finder to my drive attached to the BDP-1. Thanks for the great support you offer here. That was important for me to purchase the unit.
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Duplicate post.
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trying to add a radio station to the BDP for my wife. From settings, internet, tried to find the address in shoutcast. Since it didn't appear there, found it on the web and played it there. When I paste it into the BDP settings interface, it doesn't appear correctly (url not correct) on the BDP and does not play.
Why?
Thanks.
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Hi Phil,
The links on the shoutcast web site links to playlist files that contain the shoutcast server addresses and port numbers, where as your web site is just that a web site and not a playlist.
Cheers,
Chris
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Hi Phil,
The links on the shoutcast web site links to playlist files that contain the shoutcast server addresses and port numbers, where as your web site is just that a web site and not a playlist.
Cheers,
Chris
Thanks, Chris. Found the station at tunein.com, which provided the homepage of the station, which provided the URL. Success!
Phil
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Hi James,
I have BDP-1 with most recent firmware. Until now I used only one single Seagate USB hard drive, 500 GB without problems.
Problem occurs when I try to use one more 500 GB hard drive WD MyPassport. Both hard drives are powered from USB.
It works with any of them, but with both it shuts them down and shows ERROR on display.
In manual I found is possible to use 2 hard drives if they are 500 GB...
What can be the problem?
Thank you
Bogdan - StereoClub
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Hi James,
I have BDP-1 with most recent firmware. Until now I used only one single Seagate USB hard drive, 500 GB without problems.
Problem occurs when I try to use one more 500 GB hard drive WD MyPassport. Both hard drives are powered from USB.
It works with any of them, but with both it shuts them down and shows ERROR on display.
In manual I found is possible to use 2 hard drives if they are 500 GB...
What can be the problem?
Thank you
Bogdan - StereoClub
Hi
The BDP1 can only output 500 milliamperes on the USB so my guess is the 2 drives combined are greater than 500.
James
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Hi
The BDP1 can only output 500 milliamperes on the USB so my guess is the 2 drives combined are greater than 500.
James
BDP-2 has higher limit?
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BDP-2 has higher limit?
Yes - it has a much larger power supply - 5 amps.
james
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Hi,
The BDP-1 has a total of two 500mA power supplies shared between four USB ports. The bottom rear USB port has one of these supplies dedicated to it and the other three share the second. You should try a powered USB hub that comes with a wall wart greater then 1amp.
Cheers,
Chris
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a bunch of Fleming College grads walking around with the wrong knowledge
I have colleagues who graduated from Sir Sandbox. Some are pretty quick :D.
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Bogdan, I am using the exact hard drives as you and have never had that problem. Something seems amiss with your BDP. I suggest you contact Chris or James again.
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I'm hoping someone can help with a question. Why doesn't album art, artist, song or album show on max/bdp1 when listening to Internet radio stations. Radio paradise in particular, either the 128 or the 320 Naim stream.
Thanks
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I have NTFS and I can copy files from anywhere on my network to the HDD attached to my BDP-1.
Now I am really confused. I currently cannot copy over my home network to my attached 2gig HD and the above entries are contradictory. Can anyone confirm one way or the other, and if it is possible, perhaps add some guidance on how?
Thanks
M
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Now I am really confused. I currently cannot copy over my home network to my attached 2gig HD and the above entries are contradictory. Can anyone confirm one way or the other, and if it is possible, perhaps add some guidance on how?
Thanks
M
Mike,
It is easy to copy files to the HD attached to the BDP as long as the BDP is connected to the network. In my case using a MAC the BDP shows up in Finder as a shared device. I just click on it and it will connect to the drive ( you will have to connect using userid/password (bryston/bryston unless you have changed it.) Then you can drag and drop files to the BDP HD. Same process is available in Windows.
Tony
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Now I am really confused. I currently cannot copy over my home network to my attached 2gig HD and the above entries are contradictory. Can anyone confirm one way or the other, and if it is possible, perhaps add some guidance on how?
Thanks
M
Hi M,
Check the video tutorials portion of this thread, the last or second last entry is video on how to copy songs over the network to the BDP. If you are still having problems login into the settings page, goto the Drive Information tab and check if the drive is writeable. If the drive isn't writeable, check the file system bein used (also listed on the dive information page).
Cheers,
Chris
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Have done so. Drive is not writeable, and I am not knowledgeable enough to change it. Appreciate any guidance. Thanks!
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=76105)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=76105)
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The BDP cannot read or write to HFS+ formatted drives. It can read both FAT32 and NTFS formatted drives, and after the proper firmware update ("NTFS read write support was included with loony loon (S1.XX) firmware for the BDP"), NTFS can now also be written to.
You will need to reformat your hard drive to either NTFS (if the BDP has the necessary updated firmware) or FAT32 using the Mac Disk Utility.
http://www.geek.com/articles/apple/geek-101-how-to-format-a-mac-hard-drive-20120427/ (http://www.geek.com/articles/apple/geek-101-how-to-format-a-mac-hard-drive-20120427/)
Mac can read NTFS but not write to it natively without 3rd party software, so if you need both BDP and Mac compatibility with the hard drive, you should probably format with the FAT file system, but otherwise NTFS would be my choice.
Steve
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I am a delighted relatively newbie owner of a BDP-1.
From my Squeezebox days, I was a great fan of Radio Paradise when I was not in serious listening mode. Through bRadio on the BDP-1 I have successfully added the 128 kbit Radio Paradise stream. However, I have read that there is a 320 kbit Radio Paradise stream through NAIM.
If it is possible to stream 320 kbit Radio Paradise, would someone kindly walk me through the steps to do so.
Many thanks
Tim
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+1 on this one too.
Thanks.
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Any suggestions for a good, small, portable SSD drive to work off of BDP 2 USB? Maybe with esata and USB, USB needed to get stuff off laptop. At least 64-128GB.
Thanks
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Hi Chris,
There has been a new firmware (firmware 20130319) that you posted on the dropbox web site but has no notes on it? So is it safe to update my BDP1 with this version of firmware?
cprem
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Hi all,
Just got my BDP2 and having a hell of a time setting it up. Forget about the network part which doesnt seem to be working yet.
I just plugged the BDP 2 to my DAC (Lampizator) via AES/EBU connection and used the USB thumbdrive. I can hear the music but it is all distorted!!! Lots of noise, unlistenable.
What am I doing wrong?
Thx
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Hi all,
Just got my BDP2 and having a hell of a time setting it up. Forget about the network part which doesnt seem to be working yet.
I just plugged the BDP 2 to my DAC (Lampizator) via AES/EBU connection and used the USB thumbdrive. I can hear the music but it is all distorted!!! Lots of noise, unlistenable.
What am I doing wrong?
Thx
Hi,
Is there another DAC you could try as the thumbdrive is high res and is it possible your DAC is not???
Also maybe try another thumbdrive with standard CD quality files 44/16???
james
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Thanks for the quick reply.
I do not have another DAC to try it with. But I am sure the DAC is high rez. From the website "It is a multi bit top model with fully differential balanced outputs and 192 kHz capability."
I will try another thumbdrive.
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Have done so. Drive is not writeable, and I am not knowledgeable enough to change it. Appreciate any guidance. Thanks!
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=76105)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=76105)
You'll need to back up, the drive and format it as msdos type using disk utility on your Mac. To clarify the BDP can read HFS, just doesn't write to it yet.
Cheers,
Chris
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Please, Chris, make that word yet in your post 590 above be incredibly significant.
Rich
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Whiney Napa Valley
The means — Bryston SP3 | Bryston 6B-SST(C) - L/C/R; 4B-SST(C) - surrounds; 4B-SST(C) - rears | Bryston BDP-2 Digital Player; BDA-2 D/A Converter; Oppo BDP-105 | Paradigm Reference Signature S8 fronts; C5 center; ADP surrounds; S4 rears; two Velodyne DD15 subs | APC S20 | Pioneer Elite PRO-1130
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I noticed that was a problem reported with the play back of 24bit ALAC files on the BDP and I was wondering if there was a resolution to the problem. I purchased a couple of albums in this format from HDTracks that won't play on my BDP1. The only sound that comes out of these files is a ticking sound. On my Mac they play fine and when I convert them to FLAC they play on my BDP1.
Thanks.
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Hi Guys need some help please I have had to send back My BDP1 to Geoff at PMC due to some Firmware issues whilst there it was updated so it can read music from external drives over the internet like the BDP2
On connecting the BDP back up you can see the drives that are connected directly to the BDP via usb as it did before but now there is another thing that comes up
PUBLIC_ON _PMCNAS01
I DONT KNOW WHAT THAT IS when i double click it nothing happens when i look at settings the IP address is different from the one that is normally used the last 2 numbers but it wont let me save them
I don't have any Nas drive connected
does this facility allow you to see and play music from a computer in a different room though the home router or does it just let you play music from A NAS drive
Can someone talk me through how to connect and set up so i can use this new facility to see and play music from devices either nas or computer that is not directly connected to the bdp1 via usb
Thanks
Jimbles
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I have a BDP-1 and use Mpod to control it via my network and everything is working fine. I have never upgrade it with newer software, should I leave that way or do you recommend having the upgrade. Thanks
Gil
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I have a BDP-1 and use Mpod to control it via my network and everything is working fine. I have never upgrade it with newer software, should I leave that way or do you recommend having the upgrade. Thanks
Gil
Hi Gil
What version of software are you running now?
james
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Hi James,
I will look at it tonight and will let you know. Thank.
P.S. I bought it the first year it came out.
Gil
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Hi James,
I will look at it tonight and will let you know. Thank.
P.S. I bought it the first year it came out.
Gil
OK if the software is taht old I think it best to let Chris Rice at Bryston contact you as there may be some interm software you would have to load before you can load the most recent version.
james
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The version software of my BDP-1 is S1.19 2011/10/01 and the serial #000643. Thank you
Gil
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The version software of my BDP-1 is S1.19 2011/10/01 and the serial #000643. Thank you
Gil
Yes please contact Chris Rice at Bryston.
James
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Hope this not a repeat, but my player doesn't see my apple protected files??????
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I've read that it is OK to use both SPDIF and AES/EBU outputs simultaneously.
Any problem with sound quality used this way? I'm assuming not.
Thanks.
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You assume correctly
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Hope this not a repeat, but my player doesn't see my apple protected files??????
The BDP is unable to playback drm protected media; however if your problem is that you can't playback any mpeg based formats then you may wish to consider the latest beta release of the firmware.
Cheers,
Chris
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I believe I had read somewhere here that the BDP-1 is slower than the BDP-2.
Is that for loading up tracks or is it going from one track to the next.
Haven't heard any complaints about the slowness of either.
Almost ready to buy a BDP,seems the BDP-1 is right for me as I don't need a bazillion tracks.
Thoughts would be a good thing,thx.
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I believe I had read somewhere here that the BDP-1 is slower than the BDP-2.
Is that for loading up tracks or is it going from one track to the next.
Haven't heard any complaints about the slowness of either.
Almost ready to buy a BDP,seems the BDP-1 is right for me as I don't need a bazillion tracks.
Thoughts would be a good thing,thx.
Hi Don
Every function is faster with the BDP-2 but not to the extent that it is fustrating to use either one. The BDP-2 though is the better option if you see yourself wanting to use some of the new products we are planning on iuntroducing to be used with the BDP-2.
james
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Oh my,James what new products....BOT,you did say product(S)correct.
what might they be,course maybe I shouldn't know these things,could be bad,thx.
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Oh my,James what new products....BOT,you did say product(S)correct.
what might they be,course maybe I shouldn't know these things,could be bad,thx.
Yes the BOT idea is one but we have some further thoughts on how to better integrate the rip and play function of the BOT using the BDP-2. Also the 3 times speed advantage and 8 times more memory advanatge of the BDP-2 allows us to look at other peripheral options.
james
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VG,BDP-2 it is as nothing worse than repurchasing for significant upgrades,thanks(I think) :lol:.
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I am a delighted relatively newbie owner of a BDP-1.
From my Squeezebox days, I was a great fan of Radio Paradise when I was not in serious listening mode. Through bRadio on the BDP-1 I have successfully added the 128 kbit Radio Paradise stream. However, I have read that there is a 320 kbit Radio Paradise stream through NAIM.
If it is possible to stream 320 kbit Radio Paradise, would someone kindly walk me through the steps to do so.
Many thanks
Tim
Hi Tim, Can you send me the info on the 320kbps radio paradise stream you're talking about? I didn't know one existed. I listen to the 192kbps ogg stream regularly and it sounds much better than the MP3.
-Gary
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I'm hoping someone can help with a question. Why doesn't album art, artist, song or album show on max/bdp1 when listening to Internet radio stations. Radio paradise in particular, either the 128 or the 320 Naim stream.
Thanks
Hi MJW:
How do you get the "320 Naim stream" of Radio Paradise you mentioned in your Feb/13 post?
I and several other BDP-1 fans are very curious.
Kindly advise.
Thanks,
Tim
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This is the link that I use:
http://radioparadise.com/m3u/aac-320.m3u
This "splits" into three links and I chose the third one which is New York.
I am listening to Radio Paradise and the sound quality rivals audio from my hard drive.
Mike
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Bit the bullet and ordered the BDP-2(black 19")with blu leds.
wondering does the BDP-2 come with a sample TD.
Also or all TD's alike as far as putting music on them if say using DB poweramp,
frig still use to cd's,almost as bad as tape.
Perhaps I'll have to call Chris when she comes in as I'm not sure if I'll connect to computer or not.
Unknown BDP territory out here.
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Congratulations, drummermitchell, you'll love your BDP-2. It does come with a fine sampler thumb drive in a clever case.
You might also consider downloading the HDTracks sampler as well. It led me to two fine albums: Be Still by Dave Douglas and Cassandra Wilson's Another Country. Of course, many of the participants on this thread will have excellent recommendations for you.
FWIW, I recommend strongly connecting to your computer. I ran CAT6 through Cisco business class switches to our router, connecting to our gigabit network, and the speed and reliability made the effort very worthwhile. The connection will open many possibilities, including management of the BDP-2 and of your music. Installing an internal drive in the BDP-2 would also be an excellent move. I put in a Samsung 500gb solid state drive, and it can hold a substantial collection of hi-res files; Bryston thoughtfully included the required cable, so installation is incredibly easy (Chris posted an excellent video on this). Of course, you can also add external drives, since the BDP-2 has plenty of oomph.
Chris Rich is a superb resource and all-around great guy, very generous in sharing his expertise and extremely patient in working with non-techies like me. He spent a more than an hour on the phone with me, troubleshooting and resolving a configuration issue.
Best wishes for many happy hours of listening,
Rich
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THX :thumb:.
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TimSlim18,
You sent me a PM on Radio Paradise 320 Naim feed. I don't have enough posts to reply to your message but I had found this on Shoutcast back in February. I tried searching for it now but it's gone. Fortunately I added it to a playlist and it still works. Perhaps Naim made them take it off the site?
Mark
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I apologize if this is a repeat but I gave up after about a dozen pages. I was wondering if anybody had any specific hard drive suggestions for the BDP-1. I currently have one 256GB solid-state that is filled. I need about another 256GB.
What are other using for hard drives?
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I'm using an OCZ Vector. I've read others are using Samsung 840's. Either way, the transfer speeds these SSDs are capable of is way in excess of what you need. I'm getting great throughput on a Patriot USB 3.0 flash drive. You might consider opting for a large USB thumb drive?
If I had to do it over again, I'd probably aim for one of the less expensive SSDs. You might consider Crucial, Samsung, OCZ, or some of the others.
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TimSlim18,
You sent me a PM on Radio Paradise 320 Naim feed. I don't have enough posts to reply to your message but I had found this on Shoutcast back in February. I tried searching for it now but it's gone. Fortunately I added it to a playlist and it still works. Perhaps Naim made them take it off the site?
Mark
This is the link that I use:
http://radioparadise.com/m3u/aac-320.m3u
This "splits" into three links and I chose the third one which is New York.
I am listening to Radio Paradise and the sound quality rivals audio from my hard drive.
Mike
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How can I copy, paste and play this URL with the BDP-1 and the latest software? I really Like Radio Paradise. Thank you for your help :thumb:
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What about width? Does width matter? :)
whoops accidentally logged into comedy central
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How can I copy, paste and play this URL with the BDP-1 and the latest software? I really Like Radio Paradise. Thank you for your help :thumb:
Radio Paradise should be available from within bRadio, a link to this web app is available from the BDP's home page in the drop down menu just below settings
cheers,
Chris
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I'm about to pull the trigger on a BDP-2 purchase. It will be configured to share files with a Mac Mini running iTunes with music stored on an a Drobo. I've got three choices: (i) use Samba on the mini to share the drive with the BDP-2; (ii) move the Drobo to the BDP-2 share with the Mac; or (iii) use a second disc and synch on the BDP0-2 and synch with the Drobo. Anyone tried this or something similar?
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Is there a setup option to limit PCM output to 48kHz like with DVD players? I am looking to play all kinds of files, but due to my DAC limitation need 88.2k downsampled to 44.1k; 96k downsampled to 48k; etc.
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Is there a setup option to limit PCM output to 48kHz like with DVD players? I am looking to play all kinds of files, but due to my DAC limitation need 88.2k downsampled to 44.1k; 96k downsampled to 48k; etc.
To the best of my knowledge, no. The BDPs are bit perfect. They do not perform conversions.
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OK, thanks. I'll have to pass it through my Sonic Frontiers D2D before sending to Processor 3 @ 44/48k.
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Hello:
Quick question. I cannot access radio stations anymore on my Bryston BDP1/BDA1 controlled with MPad?b Not sure if this is an Mpad issue? Any help is greatly appreciated.
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Hey Chris,
I loaded some albums onto a Centon Rush 16gb thumb drive. All the material is 46/24 resolution or higher. I have a BDP-1 which couldn't read that particular thumb drive. I have another Centon 16gb with different material and the BDP-1 has no problems reading it. I then took a third brand new Centon 16gb thumb drive loaded the same material I was having trouble with and that thumb drive wouldn't work with the BDP-1. The files played fine on the computer. Not worried for I have the songs stored on a 2TB Western Digital which plays the material fine. Also have the music backed up up on another 2 hard drives. Did not try the thumb drive in the rear ports. I do have the latest software download 17.3. What to do? Would you like a Centon thumb drive to play around with?
Cheers,
BJ
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Hello!
I have a couple of questions regarding the differences between BDP-1 and BDP-2. Answers should help me decide which one to purchase in a few months time. So, here goes:
1. Are there big differences between BDP-1 and BDP-2 in terms of loading times? How much does it take for either to load a flash drive with 1 GB of music files for example?
2.Are there measured differences in terms of audio quality?
3. How do the BDP-1 and BDP-2 fare against optical-media transports like the ones from Sony (the late 1980s and early 1990s) or Teac in terms of audio quality?
4. Are there differences in user interface and playback functions on the main unit (such as repeat, programming modes etc.)?
5. Does the BDP-1/2 have to be connected to an internet router with WiFi in order for it to be controlled remotely by an Android device (I assume it has no built-in Wi-Fi receiver)?
6. If the BDP-1/2 is connected to an internet router and is controlled by an Android device, I am right to assume that this will work regardless of a computer (if it is off or is not connected to the network at all)? I would just like to have something that works like an ordinary CD player but that can be controlled by an Android device since the music library is much greater than a dozen songs you find on an average compact disc.
7. Is it possible to make a custom order and have the SPDIF BNC connector replaced by an RCA connector? The reason is that I already have all the cables. These were made by a friend who, in the meantime, started doing something differently and so these are a prototype but as much as I refused to believe it, these cables have made a difference.
This is essentially what I am interested in. I had an idea of purchasing a dedicated music streamer like the ones from Naim. However, I still prefer to have the music stored on something you can disconnect easily, not on network-attached storage devices because the D-Link I have has proven itself to be a loud, slow and not at all intuitive device. It doesn't provide me with a sense of reliability at all. There are good optical-media transports out there but the really nice ones are too expensive and they are limited to CD playback only. Also, I have recently discovered that not even all expensive CD transports perform any better than even the cheapest of DVD players (it certainly came as a shock to me).
Thanks for all the help!
Antun
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I can answer a couple of them (I have a BDP-2, I only demoed the BDP-1) :
1 - No personal experience here, but reports are that the BDP-2 is faster. Can someone else comment?
2 - I don't believe there is any difference at all. Can someone else comment?
3 - I have a Sonos. Both that and the BPD-2 run through my BDA-2. The BDP-2 makes the same source files sound more like music with a much wider, deeper, and more detailed presentation than the Sonos, which sounds flat and 2-dimensional by comparison.
4 - The BDP-1 and BDP-2 use the same firmware, so there shouldn't be any difference in operation at all.
5 - Yes
6 - Yes, you don't need to have a computer hooked up to use the BDP's, unless the computer is the source of your music of course.
7 - I believe read a post once where James Tanner said that was indeed possible. If you can though, I highly recommend the AES/EBU connector instead though. I also had a hard time buying that digital cable "quality" can make an audible difference. For me and my system, it can. There's also (in my opinion) a much steeper cost/value ratio for digital cables, meaning you can spend LOTS of money for a very SMALL (in my opinion on my system) difference.
One other difference that may or may not matter to you (it did to me): the BDP-2 is designed to house an internal SSD or other 2.5" HDD. The BPD-1 only uses external hard drives.
Hope that helps a bit until others can fill in the blanks.
- Garrett
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I can answer a couple of them (I have a BDP-2, I only demoed the BDP-1) :
1 - No personal experience here, but reports are that the BDP-2 is faster. Can someone else comment?
2 - I don't believe there is any difference at all. Can someone else comment?
3 - I have a Sonos. Both that and the BPD-2 run through my BDA-2. The BDP-2 makes the same source files sound more like music with a much wider, deeper, and more detailed presentation than the Sonos, which sounds flat and 2-dimensional by comparison.
4 - The BDP-1 and BDP-2 use the same firmware, so there shouldn't be any difference in operation at all.
5 - Yes
6 - Yes, you don't need to have a computer hooked up to use the BDP's, unless the computer is the source of your music of course.
7 - I believe read a post once where James Tanner said that was indeed possible. If you can though, I highly recommend the AES/EBU connector instead though. I also had a hard time buying that digital cable "quality" can make an audible difference. For me and my system, it can. There's also (in my opinion) a much steeper cost/value ratio for digital cables, meaning you can spend LOTS of money for a very SMALL (in my opinion on my system) difference.
One other difference that may or may not matter to you (it did to me): the BDP-2 is designed to house an internal SSD or other 2.5" HDD. The BPD-1 only uses external hard drives.
Hope that helps a bit until others can fill in the blanks.
- Garrett
That's very helpful Garrett, thank you!
I also have a BDA-2 and while I do believe what you are saying about the AES connection, I need an RCA output on the BDP for a different DAC.
I hope that others will join in and fill in the missing bits. Thank you again!
Cheers!
Antun
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Antun, in addition to the excellent points that Garrett makes, I would note that the BDP-2 has an element of "future-proofing" (insofar as that is possible today) by virtue of its greater power and capacity. I have the BDP-2 and BDA-2, and they're magical together.
As to your third question, I've compared hi-res files on the BDP-2 to CDs, SACDs, and DVD-As on my Oppo BDP-105 and find the BDP-2 smoother, more detailed, and more engaging (though the differences are more subtle with SACDs and DVD-As). I look forward to the forthcoming BOT-1 and plan to purchase this disc transport to work in harmony with the BDP-2 and BDA-2.
Regarding your sixth question, the player does not need a network. I've added a 500gb Samsung SSD, and as Garrett notes, this is a very useful feature, adding great capacity to the player whether or not you're using a network. I ran a gigabit ethernet cable, through two Cisco business class switches, to my iMac computer, and this adds many more possibilities to the BDP-2. I can't comment on Android devices, as my experience is with iPhones, iPads, and iPods.
Bottom line, Antun, go with the BDP-2. You'll be happier with the performance, expandability, and longevity of this excellent product.
Best fishes,
Rich
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Whiney Napa Valley
The means — Bryston SP3 | Bryston 6B-SST(C) - L/C/R; 4B-SST(C) - surrounds; 4B-SST(C) - rears | Bryston BDP-2 Digital Player; BDA-2 D/A Converter; Oppo BDP-105 | Paradigm Reference Signature S8 fronts; C5 center; ADP surrounds; S4 rears; two Velodyne DD15 subs | APC S20 | Pioneer Elite PRO-1130
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Antun, in addition to the excellent points that Garrett makes, I would note that the BDP-2 has an element of "future-proofing" (insofar as that is possible today) by virtue of its greater power and capacity. I have the BDP-2 and BDA-2, and they're magical together.
As to your third question, I've compared hi-res files on the BDP-2 to CDs, SACDs, and DVD-As on my Oppo BDP-105 and find the BDP-2 smoother, more detailed, and more engaging (though the differences are more subtle with SACDs and DVD-As). I look forward to the forthcoming BOT-1 and plan to purchase this disc transport to work in harmony with the BDP-2 and BDA-2.
Regarding your sixth question, the player does not need a network. I've added a 500gb Samsung SSD, and as Garrett notes, this is a very useful feature, adding great capacity to the player whether or not you're using a network. I ran a gigabit ethernet cable, through two Cisco business class switches, to my iMac computer, and this adds many more possibilities to the BDP-2. I can't comment on Android devices, as my experience is with iPhones, iPads, and iPods.
Bottom line, Antun, go with the BDP-2. You'll be happier with the performance, expandability, and longevity of this excellent product.
Best fishes,
Rich
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Whiney Napa Valley
The means — Bryston SP3 | Bryston 6B-SST(C) - L/C/R; 4B-SST(C) - surrounds; 4B-SST(C) - rears | Bryston BDP-2 Digital Player; BDA-2 D/A Converter; Oppo BDP-105 | Paradigm Reference Signature S8 fronts; C5 center; ADP surrounds; S4 rears; two Velodyne DD15 subs | APC S20 | Pioneer Elite PRO-1130
Hi Rich and thank you for your reply!
I am struggling to justify the difference in price. You see, equipment is generally much more expensive in Europe so the BDP-1 is around 2200 Euro and the BDP-2 is 3100 Euro so there is a 900 Euro price difference. These prices are with 15% discount I was able to get.
If the performance in terms of audio quality is identical between the two, that leaves me with better expandibility and convenience but it comes at a price. It was easier with the BDA-2 because I felt it gives more in return than some other similar DACs but with the BDP-2 we are talking about improving everything but the sound.
On the other hand, the BDP-2 is more future-proof as you say. Chris tells me the current operating system uses around 200 MB of RAM and so the 2048 MB RAM in the BDP-2 has a lot more free space for data manipulation.
The one thing that completely failed for me was trying to integrate a player that can handle high resolution audio. The reason it failed because such a machine is inevitably dependent on display as all it's features are accessed via the on-screen menu. That is what attracts me to the BDP series - they require no connection to a screen.
Cheers!
Antun
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Your points are good ones, Antun, and I well understand your dilemma. I do think that the long-term benefits are worthwhile, though, as you'll have a far longer useful life with the BDP-2, and that may justify the substantially greater investment. Larry Greenhill had a very well presented article on the BDP-2 vis-a-vis the BDP-1 in the October Stereophile.
I appreciate your comment about video. The BDP players are very simple and straightforward, yet powerful and expandable. I also have an Oppo BDP-105 that plays high-resolution files. It's a fine machine but not at the level of the BDP-2/BDA-2, and it really likes the video display on when controlling the player.
Rich
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Whiney Napa Valley
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I think the BDP-2 seems like a viable option then. I have read several reviews and all of them suggest it is a magnificent machine. I am somewhat worried about the lack of "physicality" for it is a solid state player and I am somewhat "attached" to analogue formats. But then, no one says it will be a replacement for an analogue system. The one thing that preoccupies me is the internal hard disk because I am not very keen on opening the top cover and installing it myself, even if it is an ordinary computer hard drive.
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I think the BDP-2 seems like a viable option then. I have read several reviews and all of them suggest it is a magnificent machine. I am somewhat worried about the lack of "physicality" for it is a solid state player and I am somewhat "attached" to analogue formats. But then, no one says it will be a replacement for an analogue system. The one thing that preoccupies me is the internal hard disk because I am not very keen on opening the top cover and installing it myself, even if it is an ordinary computer hard drive.
The video links below describe the process of the physical installation, formatting of the drive and copying music from your computer to the drive attached to your bdp.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmafbFKnWWw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmafbFKnWWw)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRsyU15-sB8&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRsyU15-sB8&feature=youtu.be)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQjn2HSd6b8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQjn2HSd6b8)
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Just finished ripping 7062 songs :o,onto a ext storage device over the weekend.
I have one wireless router connecting two computers,laptop and the (BDP-2+BDA-2),
Would it be beneficial to have the BDP-BDA on their OWN router,any downsides having all these hitch hikers in the same spot.
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That really depends on how much data you are transferring through the router all the time. Think of it like the hot water heater... if you are only using maybe one hot shower and the dishwasher at one time, there's plenty of hot water. If you are also using another hot shower and the hot water in the kitchen sink, you're going to start putting some strain on the hot water system.
So if you're not streaming Netflix to two computers and trying to listen to music over the network all at the same time, you'll probably be fine.
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Great,jsust surfing the net a bit while listening to tunes,thx.
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Great,jsust surfing the net a bit while listening to tunes,thx.
Your better off keeping it the way you have it, you don't have much traffic and everything has access to the Internet.
Cheers
Chris
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Thanks Chris,and thanks a lot for getting this together for me :thumb:.
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New to audiocircle so excuse and redundancies as I am sure that the topic has been covered. I am the new owner of a BDP-1 and BDA-2 combo. So far loving them, aside from one glitch I have encountered and I was hoping for some feedback or confirmation.
I got a strange skipping sound or no playback at all when I attempted to play newly downloaded material from HDTracks that is high res ALAC. I got Charlie Brown Christmas (Vince Guaraldi) in 192/24 ALAC and Andre Previn and the LSO: The Nutcracker in 96/24 ALAC. In both instances the output was skipping and/or nothing.
I re-downloaded same albums at same sample/bit depth in FLAC and everything works fine as kind. ALAC (m4a) material ripped lossless via itunes from CDs works great, but no high res ALAC.
Is it simply that high res ALAC is not supported, or have I done something wrong?
Playback was from USB flash drives in the front panel (SanDisk 64GB cruzers) and components were connected via AES/EBU XLR.
Thanks for any help!!
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New to audiocircle so excuse and redundancies as I am sure that the topic has been covered. I am the new owner of a BDP-1 and BDA-2 combo. So far loving them, aside from one glitch I have encountered and I was hoping for some feedback or confirmation.
I got a strange skipping sound or no playback at all when I attempted to play newly downloaded material from HDTracks that is high res ALAC. I got Charlie Brown Christmas (Vince Guaraldi) in 192/24 ALAC and Andre Previn and the LSO: The Nutcracker in 96/24 ALAC. In both instances the output was skipping and/or nothing.
I re-downloaded same albums at same sample/bit depth in FLAC and everything works fine as kind. ALAC (m4a) material ripped lossless via itunes from CDs works great, but no high res ALAC.
Is it simply that high res ALAC is not supported, or have I done something wrong?
Playback was from USB flash drives in the front panel (SanDisk 64GB cruzers) and components were connected via AES/EBU XLR.
Thanks for any help!!
It may be a copy code issue but I will ask the expert:
Chris?
james
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Hi Matt,
Hi Res ALAC and other mpeg based format will only play when using the S1.73 firmware with MPD version 0.17.2(0.17.3). Changing the version of MPD can be done from within the settings page under the MPD menu. The default username and password are both “bryston” without quotes.
Cheers,
Chris
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I've had my BDP-1 for a little over a week and am really enjoying it. No problems or issues to speak of, but I do have a few questions about ripping discs. I'm using dbpoweramp to rip and am controlling my player with an iPad Mini running MPad. I'm ripping to FLAC level 5.
1) Sometimes when ripping a CD, I see it in two different places on my MPad display, but on my HDD it is in only one folder. I figured out early on that some of this was because I had different entries in the Artist field in dbpoweramp when I ripped. I fixed this by either re-ripping, or going into each songs metadata and changing information in the ID-Tag. However, sometimes this doesn't work....either that or I'm missing something. Is there another place I need to look to fix this?
I also have one disc in FLAC that I downloaded off the artist's site that shows up in two places - once in the correct place and once in a folder with the bizarre name of S-1-5-21-2956237528-128... that I can't see in any of the files so I don't know where it is coming from. Any ideas?
2) Also, I noticed that even though I have cover art for each disc in a jpeg file in each folder, MPad is going to Amazon and Discogs for it with mixed results. It does say something about using local album art and that I need to be running a webserver with access to my music folder typically on the same unit that MPD is running to use it. Question - Is it possible to do this and how do I go about it? Would it be an improvement?
Thanks in advance.
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Your ripping software may be storing a local copy of the file as it rips to a directory that's not the final destination of the file. It's not really useful to try and look at the library while music is being copied into it. Try hitting the "update" button on the web interface or from MPaD after your rips and copies are done. You'll probably get a much more reliable picture of what's in the library that way.
To get MPaD to look at local art, see the picture. From the connections menu, you need to hit advanced beside your player, and enter http://bryston-bdp-1.local/music then enter whatever the file name is that is contained within your music album directories. Commonly, this is folder.jpg, or cover.jpg, etc. It won't read embedded cover art in a file.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=93394)
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I've had my BDP-1 for a little over a week and am really enjoying it. No problems or issues to speak of, but I do have a few questions about ripping discs. I'm using dbpoweramp to rip and am controlling my player with an iPad Mini running MPad. I'm ripping to FLAC level 5.
1) Sometimes when ripping a CD, I see it in two different places on my MPad display, but on my HDD it is in only one folder. I figured out early on that some of this was because I had different entries in the Artist field in dbpoweramp when I ripped. I fixed this by either re-ripping, or going into each songs metadata and changing information in the ID-Tag. However, sometimes this doesn't work....either that or I'm missing something. Is there another place I need to look to fix this?
I also have one disc in FLAC that I downloaded off the artist's site that shows up in two places - once in the correct place and once in a folder with the bizarre name of S-1-5-21-2956237528-128... that I can't see in any of the files so I don't know where it is coming from. Any ideas?
2) Also, I noticed that even though I have cover art for each disc in a jpeg file in each folder, MPad is going to Amazon and Discogs for it with mixed results. It does say something about using local album art and that I need to be running a webserver with access to my music folder typically on the same unit that MPD is running to use it. Question - Is it possible to do this and how do I go about it? Would it be an improvement?
Thanks in advance.
Hello,
I believe the "S-1-5-21-2956237528-128" folders are created by microsoft windows, if you rip your music directly to the BDP over the network by way of the network shares that the BDP creates then you shouldn't get these folders.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQjn2HSd6b8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQjn2HSd6b8)
In regards to the doubles showing you may wish to try the following:
-ensuring MPD's database is up to date
-refresh local cache under settings in mPad/mPod
if your still seeing doubles uninstall/reinstall mPad/mPod
if your still seeing doubles then it could be that the BDP is reading in files from the recycler
Cheers,
Chris
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I have owned and enjoyed a BDP-1 for approximately 2 years. Recently I have begun to wonder if the SQ of the BDP can be significantly improved by using a linear power supply of the type provided by Paul Hynes Audio as well as others. Does anyone have experience with this application of a linear power supply?
Mark
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Thank you unincognito and gdayton for your help. I think everything is good now. Can you tell me exactly what the 'Refresh local cache' and 'Update database' commands do?
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I have owned and enjoyed a BDP-1 for approximately 2 years. Recently I have begun to wonder if the SQ of the BDP can be significantly improved by using a linear power supply of the type provided by Paul Hynes Audio as well as others. Does anyone have experience with this application of a linear power supply?
Mark
Hi Mark!
I think it would be increasingly difficult to improve upon the performance of the BDP in a purely technical sense. I think you'd see greater improvements in the pre/power amplification domain. If there would be any improvements in the BDP at all, they would be slight since BDP already measures excellent. At least in my opinion.
Cheers!
Antun
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I agree. We already have a linear PSU in the system that is extraordinarily stable, doesn't pollute the AC mains, doesn't radiate noise into the digital audio path, has plenty of current available, etc. Bryston does a lot of things well, and power supplies are one of them. Just my 2 cents.
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Quick question, how long does it normally take for my BDP2 to update new files I have added? Is there a way to speed this up? I add songs and I seem to have to wait a ridiculous amount of time before I can listen to them.
Thanks
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I have 3 x 2TB WD Essentials HDDs hanging off my BDP2. Today I uploaded 25 files (1.32 GB) to the BDP2 and from the time of ordering the system to update it took just over two minutes to complete and make the files available for playing.
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Thanks for the reply.
Something must be wrong then. It's been over 30min, WD Livebook is still flashing. I've rebooted both. Unplugged both.
Just opened a bottle of wine and can't listen to music :(
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Have you tried another usb port. might be worth a try.
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Hello All,
I just finished reading all 33 pages, whew!!! Great info here for the future BDP/BDA owners and current owners! Thanks to all for the info .....
I am about to start ripping my first CDs into Flac. I read a bunch of threads on how to do this, I am going to use DBpoweramp...and an unknown powered hard drive as yet...I sent my windows 7 laptop off to a friend to clean it up and make it ready for turning the machine into basically a machine for my music room, ripping files, use for my remote control program and light internet use for updates and music downloads etc... . He expressed to me that it may be slow for what I plan to do. I have a one year old HP laptop with a i3 processor and 4G ram, he recommended at least, getting an 8G ram. Those of you ripping, will this be enough? or will I need to buy a new machine that's faster...I hope to be a BDP and BDA owner this spring. I am trying to get all the files on the Hard drive so that when the BDA/BDPcome in, I can just plug and play...thanks for your replies, Pete
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Hi Folks - a place to ask and answer more technical and operational based questions on the BDP-1 Digital Player
james
How about a 'problem' that might be unique or just not mentioned by anyone yet.
I have a bdp-1 that i typically control by mpad (latest version) on my ipad. I will turn off the bdo-1 at end of night and clear the playlist on mpad only to see the bdp displaying a song title and when turning on the stereo hear it skipping 'permanently'. Mpad is unresponsive and the bdp needs to be rebooted to clear the skipping.
Anyone else with the same problem?
Any suggestions?
Thanks...
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Just out of curiosity could someone explain how the "service mode" works with the BDP? For instance, what things can the Bryston techs see on the BDP? Do they have access to all of your files? Do they have access to other computers on the owners local network?
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Maybe Chris can chime in, but my understanding is that Service Mode sets up a VPN to the BDP that allows Bryston techs to remote into the BDP in order to diagnose problems. It would theoretically give access to your media, however not to other computers on the network. Since service mode has to be turned on and off locally (that is, by you) there is little apparent security risk.
-Gary
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I thought it might be something like that.
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No risk at all,have had Chris setup my BDP-2 and also help me fix and do a few other things remotely,
If your stuck,he's the guy :thumb:,.
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Moved house and am now having serious issues with mpad and no album art. Of 2000 albums I now only get perhaps 50 random displaying. I can manually get the artwork but then it disappears only to appear if I expand the icon, then disappears when collapsed. No problem with art if using Max II.
Don't know if this is related- I have an unknown file at the top when viewing in Max called trashes which has a sub directory called 501 with hundreds of titles under it.
I have mined this forum, and am confident all mpad settings are correct- went into the bryston software and set a scratch drive, rebooted, basically did it all and still perplexed. Running loony loon on a mac with latest mpad.
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Hello,
The BR-2 remote will do the following:
toggle power
next track
previous track
toggle pause
toggle play
stop playback
An iPod touch is capable of doing all of these tasks above except toggle power. The iPod touch is also able to create playlists, choose songs directly from the playlist (rather then using next/previous track controls), scan forward/reverse through a track, create playlists, load playlists. It can do more but there are the things regarding playback that i can think of off the top of my head.
Cheers,
Chris
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I had a question for BDP-1 experts. I am new to the unit, and I believe that I have figured out how to access the 10 radio stations saved on the playlist through Gnome. I am trying to access internet radio station KCRW Eclectic 24, but I cannot locate an IP address to access the stream anywhere. I currently access it through Tune-In or through their popup flash player.
Does anyone know how I may locate the IP address for that station, or how else I can access the internet radio stream through Gnome (or whatever)?
Thanks!
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Try http://www.kcrw.com/pls/kcrwmusic.pls
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(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=95797)
make a textfile with this content, save it as kcrwmusic.m3u and move it to root/mnt/img/playlists. et voila, a playlist with that preset radiostation shows up in the BDP...
edit: content of the text file should be http://kcrw.ic.llnwd.net/stream/kcrw_music, the former doesn't work in BDP media player.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=95918)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=95919)
Cheers,
Marius
Try http://www.kcrw.com/pls/kcrwmusic.pls
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Hello Marius, I'm trying to do the same thing as what you've described and I'm having trouble accessing the root directory. So how exactly do you get to this stage over the network?
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=95919)
I can see my BDP player, but cannot access anything and I'm stuck.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=96034)
Thanks
Wayne
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Hi Wayne,
You should be able to browse the bdps attached USB drives, if that's not happening, solve that first
Second, for the root to show up, you need to enter developer mode, which is accessible through a command entered in the startup script field. Maybe Chris knows more options to do that.
Then, you have to set permissions right in the current state of te firmware, Chris might change that to default soon?
For the first: do you have samba enabled in the options?
Marius
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Hi Wayne,
You should be able to browse the bdps attached USB drives, if that's not happening, solve that first
Second, for the root to show up, you need to enter developer mode, which is accessible through a command entered in the startup script field. Maybe Chris knows more options to do that.
Then, you have to set permissions right in the current state of te firmware, Chris might change that to default soon?
For the first: do you have samba enabled in the options?
Marius
Hi Marius, yes samba is enabled.
I'm thinking another option is to remove the USB card and put it into a card reader and do the same thing there and then put the card back in.
Wayne.
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Hi Wayne,
not sure what you trying to accomplish, but i wouldn't take the flash-card out of the BDP and start copying things to it just like that.
You really ought to see the bdp in Mac/finder and read/write to it. How else to write music files to the usb-drives, other than de/attaching them all the time. Have you never done that before?
First accomplish browsing the BDP before doing other things would be my advice. If you're in trouble doing so, lets try and help you there.
Cheers,
Marius
Hi Marius, yes samba is enabled.
I'm thinking another option is to remove the USB card and put it into a card reader and do the same thing there and then put the card back in.
Wayne.
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Hi Wayne,
not sure what you trying to accomplish, but i wouldn't take the flash-card out of the BDP and start copying things to it just like that.
You really ought to see the bdp in Mac/finder and read/write to it. How else to write music files to the usb-drives, other than de/attaching them all the time. Have you never done that before?
First accomplish browsing the BDP before doing other things would be my advice. If you're in trouble doing so, lets try and help you there.
Cheers,
Marius
Agreed.
So how do I access this through Mac/Finder??
I can see it, but I cannot connect to it and not sure how to go further.
I've also tried the Go drop down in finder and use the Connect to Server option and was unsuccessful through this approach, so I'm stuck.
Wayne.
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Which version software is on your BDP? And, have you seen it on the network before? Can you see it entering http://bryston-bdp-1.local/ in your browser?
M
Agreed.
So how do I access this through Mac/Finder??
I can see it, but I cannot connect to it and not sure how to go further.
I've also tried the Go drop down in finder and use the Connect to Server option and was unsuccessful through this approach, so I'm stuck.
Wayne.
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Which version software is on your BDP? And, have you seen it on the network before? Can you see it entering http://bryston-bdp-1.local/ in your browser?
M
Software version is S1.74 2014-01-23
I've never been able to connect to access the drive or folder structure via my Mac. I can access the drive and move music files across with my MacBook running Windows.
Wayne.
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let us check some other things:
have you tried entering the ip address into the Finder/Go ?
And, did you try the link in the internet browser? If you see Max interface, that would mean a correct network connection at least, and we could narrow our search a bit..
Do you use any remote system for operating the bdp, or only the buttons on the frontpanel. Mpod/Mpad and the likes.
Marius
Software version is S1.74 2014-01-23
I've never been able to connect to access the drive or folder structure via my Mac. I can access the drive and move music files across with my MacBook running Windows.
Wayne.
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let us check some other things:
have you tried entering the ip address into the Finder/Go ?
And, did you try the link in the internet browser? If you see Max interface, that would mean a correct network connection at least, and we could narrow our search a bit..
Do you use any remote system for operating the bdp, or only the buttons on the frontpanel. Mpod/Mpad and the likes.
Marius
I've entered the IP address into finder and it says it can't be found.
Max interface works fine and I can build playlists and such from within there, but I don't see an option to add internet radio stations within Max.
mPad and mPod both connect and work fine with my BDP.
Wayne.
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Wayne,
seems to be a Mac /finder issue then, since all other network connections to the BDP work. Have you checked filesharing in the Sharing settings in system preferences? Maybe firewall setting?
one extra check: try Go in finder, connect to server, and type smb://bryston-bdp-1.local if login displays, type bryston twice #fingerscrossed
being able to see Max is a good thing, you can enter the developer mode command then ;-)
Marius
I've entered the IP address into finder and it says it can't be found.
Max interface works fine and I can build playlists and such from within there, but I don't see an option to add internet radio stations within Max.
mPad and mPod both connect and work fine with my BDP.
Wayne.
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Wayne,
seems to be a Mac /finder issue then, since all other network connections to the BDP work. Have you checked filesharing in the Sharing settings in system preferences? Maybe firewall setting?
one extra check: try Go in finder, connect to server, and type smb://bryston-bdp-1.local if login displays, type bryston twice #fingerscrossed
being able to see Max is a good thing, you can enter the developer mode command then ;-)
Marius
We're making progress… :D
This is what I'm seeing now and I can access the music on the drive now. So I guess the next piece is how to enter the developer mode command to see the file structure?
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=96139)
Wayne.
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Wayne,
id caution you before doing so. You might want to wait for Chris to enable some functionality for editing these playlists soon through the interface, instead of entering the BDP through terminal-commands.
check http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=105853.msg1097506#msg1097506 for Chris's directions for entering developer mode, and check that this command should be entered using ssh command and not the startup script. read carefully what Chris writes on that subject.
I would advice you to ask Chris if this still is the preferred way of entering developer mode, to reveal the root on the BDP, to be able to write the playlist folder.
Cheers,
Marius
We're making progress… :D
This is what I'm seeing now and I can access the music on the drive now. So I guess the next piece is how to enter the developer mode command to see the file structure?
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=96139)
Wayne.
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What thumb drives are recommended for BDP-2 ? Any favorites ?
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Hi,,how do I configure the usb OUTPUT on my Bdp-1. I am running the latest firmware. I'll be connecting it to W4S dac2. Very sorry if this was already covered in the forum.
Thanks!!
Never mind people,, I pm'd Chris for the answer. Thanks Chris
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Hi,,how do I configure the usb OUTPUT on my Bdp-1. I am running the latest firmware. I'll be connecting it to W4S dac2. Very sorry if this was already covered in the forum.
Thanks!!
Never mind people,, I pm'd Chris for the answer. Thanks Chris
Just reboot the BDP-1 with the DAC attached.
james
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This is my first post on this forum and I really hope to find a few answers. Much as I love the sound of my BDP-1, which I have had for several years, I find I am using it less and less because of interface issues.
I have tried Gnome on PCs connected to my home network and MPDroid on Android devices and am not fully satisfied with either.
As background, I have a large music collection on a NAS (more than 100,000 tracks), some from very obscure CDs.
My problem is cover art. I like to have the cover art available as both a basis for search and while playlists are in progress. But very many of the CDs I have ripped are not in the data bases used by Gnome and MPDroid.
I have all covers on my NAS as Folder.jpg files.
I have two questions:
1. Is there a setting in MPDroid that will allow MPDroid to correctly display the cover art from the NAS where all cover art files are Genre\Artist\Album\Folder.jpg.
2. If not, is there any possibility that the BDP firmware and software may be updated in the future to include JRiver MediaCenter now that JRiver is available for Linux and operates easily from remote apps such as Gizmo, and can also be controlled from any PC in the network with Jriver loaded? I would gladly pay an additional purchase fee to have this available.
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On the settings of MPDroid
Download local cover art checked
Path to music = http://ip_address_of_bdp/music
Cover filename = Folder.jpg
On PC: try Cantata, there is possibility for similar settings, not in initial set up but after first run, in "Menu\Configure Cantata\Collection"
Hey James,
Not sure if anyone's previously listed the Cantata mpd client for windows & linux. I just happened to stumble on it...still playing with it...Denny
https://code.google.com/p/cantata/
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Thank you for the suggested settings. But I am afraid they simply do not yield the cover art for some albums. I am not sure what the issue is. The Android device I am using is a Samsung S3
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I am on version 1.03 from 16.10.2012 of MPDroid
I remember at one moment I upgraded to version 1.05 and I had similar issues, some cover art was not displayed.
Link to older versions: https://github.com/abarisain/dmix/downloads
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Thanks again. I discovered that part of my problem may be the difference between entering Folder.jpg and folder.jpg in the Android settings, a difference I did not expect. But not all art is displaying on MPDroid yet. Will work through this to see if I can find the cause.
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another plausible cause may be use of some special characters in the name of the folders or path being too long...
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You'll so want to make sure your running recent software, I don't believe it was until February of this year that we fixed a compatibility issue with local cover art on android devices.
Cheers
Chris
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you mean this one:
firmware20140123 (http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/86196657/firmware.html)
S1.74 2014-01-23
*Apache 2: enable url slash encoding, should fix local cover art compatibility with some android apps
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Just did an firmware up grade on my BDP-2 which was released 05/20.
I like it when it's posted on the BDP's dashboard :thumb:..
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Just did an firmware up grade on my BDP-2 which was released 05/20.
I like it when it's posted on the BDP's dashboard :thumb:..
Hi Don
Yes we officially released Manic Moose software yesterday - hope you like it :thumb:
james
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Hi James,
so far so good.
Would like to know when I create a playlist on the left side and say I'm doing playback.
How do I remove a track from that list without taking all the tracks off.
I don't see anything there where I can remove a certain track,thx.
Seems I have to clear everything on that playlist and start over :scratch:.
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Hi James,
so far so good.
Would like to know when I create a playlist on the left side and say I'm doing playback.
How do I remove a track from that list without taking all the tracks off.
I don't see anything there where I can remove a certain track,thx.
Seems I have to clear everything on that playlist and start over :scratch:.
I think you have to clear the complete list but I will check.
james
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James,I remember the older program(not manic moose)that you could take out a track or tracks while keeping the playlist intact.
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Does the launch of Manic Moose mean we now have access to LMS as a server via the BDP-1/2?
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Does the launch of Manic Moose mean we now have access to LMS as a server via the BDP-1/2?
LMS?
james
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Logitech media server
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Logitech media server
Not sure - thats a Chris question. :scratch:
james
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Hi!
I have a question about the Linux software on the BDP-1/2. How much processor time and RAM is occupied by the software when the system is idle? I guess what I am trying to ask is how much longer the BDP-1 will remain "relevant".
From what I can see, everything that BDP-2 can do, BDP-1 can do as well. But for how much longer? With the expansion of firmware, deamands on the hardware become greater, at least with ordinary computers.
I'm trying to make a final decision on whether I should purchase a BDP-2 or a BDP-1. I really don't need the extra connectivity of the BDP-2 since I intend do use it exactly as I use my CD player but if purchasing a BDP-1 means I'll be out in the dry in a year or two because it's hardware will be insufficiently powerful for the future firmware versions, then I'd rather purchase a BDP-2.
Any comments would be appreciated!
Cheers!
Antun
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Hi!
I have a question about the Linux software on the BDP-1/2. How much processor time and RAM is occupied by the software when the system is idle? I guess what I am trying to ask is how much longer the BDP-1 will remain "relevant".
From what I can see, everything that BDP-2 can do, BDP-1 can do as well. But for how much longer? With the expansion of firmware, deamands on the hardware become greater, at least with ordinary computers.
I'm trying to make a final decision on whether I should purchase a BDP-2 or a BDP-1. I really don't need the extra connectivity of the BDP-2 since I intend do use it exactly as I use my CD player but if purchasing a BDP-1 means I'll be out in the dry in a year or two because it's hardware will be insufficiently powerful for the future firmware versions, then I'd rather purchase a BDP-2.
Any comments would be appreciated!
Cheers!
Antun
Hi Antun
Chris is more capable at answering this in detail but I can tell you that products like the BOT Drive will work better with the BDP-2. I think you are correct that more computing power and processing capability in the BDP-2 will provide much more flexibility going forward when it comes to hardware and software.
james
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Antun,
i have a BDP-1 and it surely is a great sounding piece. three hdd are connected (via a powered usb hub) with a total of around 2.3 tb of music. the BDP-1 can load all these titles but it cannot play them flawlessly in a row...during playback it gets a nice hickup every now and then.
but no reason to get mad about the BDP-1 as long as your listening sessions don't need tb of music. i'd say that the average laid back listening event has some hundreds songs or so (even a few thousand songs would be no problem for the BDP-1).
i don't see myself selling this unit as it perfectly does what i want: playing my playlists whenever i want it. playlists never contain more than a few hours of music. so in most cases the BDP-1 should do the trick :D
al.
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Hi Antun
Chris is more capable at answering this in detail but I can tell you that products like the BOT Drive will work better with the BDP-2. I think you are correct that more computing power and processing capability in the BDP-2 will provide much more flexibility going forward when it comes to hardware and software.
james
Thank you James! Can you please ask Chris to answer the technical part of my question?
Cheers!
Antun
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Antun,
i have a BDP-1 and it surely is a great sounding piece. three hdd are connected (via a powered usb hub) with a total of around 2.3 tb of music. the BDP-1 can load all these titles but it cannot play them flawlessly in a row...during playback it gets a nice hickup every now and then.
but no reason to get mad about the BDP-1 as long as your listening sessions don't need tb of music. i'd say that the average laid back listening event has some hundreds songs or so (even a few thousand songs would be no problem for the BDP-1).
i don't see myself selling this unit as it perfectly does what i want: playing my playlists whenever i want it. playlists never contain more than a few hours of music. so in most cases the BDP-1 should do the trick :D
al.
Hi Al and thank you for your reply!
I have no doubt whether what you are saying is true and perhaps BDP-1 would be just as perfect for me as a BDP-2. WHat concerns me is the software. If BDP-1 was released the same time as a BDP-2 as a more affordable alternative, then I'd have no doubts. But it is a few years old and I don't want to discover that the new software version will be too much for a BDP-1.
Cheers!
Antun
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Antun,
i have a BDP-1 and it surely is a great sounding piece. three hdd are connected (via a powered usb hub) with a total of around 2.3 tb of music. the BDP-1 can load all these titles but it cannot play them flawlessly in a row...during playback it gets a nice hickup every now and then.
but no reason to get mad about the BDP-1 as long as your listening sessions don't need tb of music. i'd say that the average laid back listening event has some hundreds songs or so (even a few thousand songs would be no problem for the BDP-1).
i don't see myself selling this unit as it perfectly does what i want: playing my playlists whenever i want it. playlists never contain more than a few hours of music. so in most cases the BDP-1 should do the trick :D
al.
What USB Hub are you using? That probably shouldn't cause a hicup, but I would remove it and see. I've only had an issue with a certain codec causing glitches at the end of songs, but that's an easy fix... A hiccup now and then would upset me... (also cause me to go grab a beer to cool off :) )
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Skunark,
it's a D-Link hub. the mentioned hiccup only appears if i want to play the whole content (2.3 tb). so it's more a problem of the BDP-1 than of the hub, i guess?!?
al.
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Not sure - thats a Chris question. :scratch:
james
Thanks James, is there any way to get Chris to answer this question?
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Thanks James, is there any way to get Chris to answer this question?
Will poke again.
james
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Skunark,
it's a D-Link hub. the mentioned hiccup only appears if i want to play the whole content (2.3 tb). so it's more a problem of the BDP-1 than of the hub, i guess?!?
al.
I've never experienced hiccups when playing the complete library... It won't be the size of the drive or files but the number of songs and in this case Chris set the max playlist length to 3000 songs, about a weeks worth of nonstop music. Do the hiccups occur during the transition to the next song that happens to be on a different drive or at the creation of the 'play-all' playlist? If the hiccup occurs with the next song from a different drive then I would guess the hub is causing the hiccups. If the hiccup is that the creation of the playlist, then I would be curious about the number of songs in your library and is something Chris or the MPD folks could address. I have ~17k songs on one drive and other than the codec issue, it's worked flawlessly for me.
Jim
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Logitech media server
Yes, if you run Logitech Media Server on your computer, you can play that content through your BDP with Manic Moose.
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I can't seem to be able to perform the upgrade to the new Manic Moose with my Samsung Android tablet. Can someone point me in the right direction?
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Hi Don
Yes we officially released Manic Moose software yesterday - hope you like it :thumb:
james
Whaaaat? :) So excited! I was too busy over the weekend to get to listen, so I had no idea it was released. :thumb:
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Can you post how to install this firmware on BDP-1? It does not show in automatic upgrade.
Thanks!
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Hi Chris,
When using the BDP1 (MM) with a NAS ( in my case it's a Synology ) is there any difference between network protocols: SMB and AFP. Is one faster or more stable than the other?
thanks
Ron
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Hi Chris,
When using the BDP1 (MM) with a NAS ( in my case it's a Synology ) is there any difference between network protocols: SMB and AFP. Is one faster or more stable than the other?
thanks
Ron
the development and stability of samba is much more mature then afp, even if your using a mac to host the files i would still recommend using samba over afp.
Cheers,
Chris
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Can you post how to install this firmware on BDP-1? It does not show in automatic upgrade.
Thanks!
you can use either these instructions
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/86196657/DOCS/Manic%20Moose%20Upgrade%20Instructions.pdf
or these instructions
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/86196657/DOCS/BDP%20image%20Windows.pdf
The first should work, however if the BDP fails to re-partition its storage or worse you can use the second set to restore the cf card to a factory fresh state or contact Bryston for additional service options.
Cheers,
Chris
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Early draft of the manual for the new manic moose operating system for the BDP's
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/86196657/DOCS/Manic%20Moose%20Manual.pdf
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I've never experienced hiccups when playing the complete library... It won't be the size of the drive or files but the number of songs and in this case Chris set the max playlist length to 3000 songs, about a weeks worth of nonstop music. Do the hiccups occur during the transition to the next song that happens to be on a different drive or at the creation of the 'play-all' playlist? If the hiccup occurs with the next song from a different drive then I would guess the hub is causing the hiccups. If the hiccup is that the creation of the playlist, then I would be curious about the number of songs in your library and is something Chris or the MPD folks could address. I have ~17k songs on one drive and other than the codec issue, it's worked flawlessly for me.
What codec did you have issues with?
How do I get my above question out of this gray box? I'm new at this.
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Hi!
I have a question about the Linux software on the BDP-1/2. How much processor time and RAM is occupied by the software when the system is idle? I guess what I am trying to ask is how much longer the BDP-1 will remain "relevant".
From what I can see, everything that BDP-2 can do, BDP-1 can do as well. But for how much longer? With the expansion of firmware, deamands on the hardware become greater, at least with ordinary computers.
I'm trying to make a final decision on whether I should purchase a BDP-2 or a BDP-1. I really don't need the extra connectivity of the BDP-2 since I intend do use it exactly as I use my CD player but if purchasing a BDP-1 means I'll be out in the dry in a year or two because it's hardware will be insufficiently powerful for the future firmware versions, then I'd rather purchase a BDP-2.
Any comments would be appreciated!
Cheers!
Antun
Hi Chris!
Can you please comment on the quoted question I posted a few weeks ago?
Just trying to reach a decision here.
Cheers!
Antun
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When using local cover art in MPad do I leave the "Cover Art File Name" blank if my Cover Art files all have different names?
Thanks
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Hi,
The procedure to enable USB output for BDP-1, with the latest upgades, to a suitable DAC was just briefly mentioned.
Could you please elaborate in detail!
Kind regards,
Vlad
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Hi Chris!
Can you please comment on the quoted question I posted a few weeks ago?
Just trying to reach a decision here.
Cheers!
Antun
Hi Antun,
Sorry for taking so long to get back to you, personally i would hold off with the idea that at some point you will spend the money. Right now your right, if the BDP-1 does everything you need it to do then why get a BDP-2 when the 1 could be (likely) remain relevant until we release a BDP-3. With that said the current hold up on the BOT is making it BDP-1 compatible, so although BDP-1 production is ramping down due to low sales (in comparison to the BDP-2, 30:1); it is still a relevant piece of hardware.
Cheers,
Chris
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Hi,
The procedure to enable USB output for BDP-1, with the latest upgades, to a suitable DAC was just briefly mentioned.
Could you please elaborate in detail!
Kind regards,
Vlad
Page 15 of the manic moose manual has a detailed explanation of how to setup up this feature which graphics. If you would like further clarification i am happy to provide it.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/86196657/DOCS/Manic%20Moose%20Manual.pdf
Cheers,
Chris
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Hi Chris,
Thank you!
This update apears on the normal menu on the BDP?
Vlad
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Hi Chris,
Thank you!
This update apears on the normal menu on the BDP?
Vlad
Yes, with the most recent firmware, Manic Moose
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I finally pulled the trigger and bought a new BDP-2 yesterday. I hooked it up, upgraded the firmware to Manic Moose and enjoyed the Bryston provided tunes on the USB stick. Now comes time to hook up my 10,000 track hard drive to the BDP-2. I am moving from a 2009 MacBook Pro so the external hard drive is formatted in Mac (HFS?). In searching and combing through the various posts on this forum I gather I will have to reformat a new drive in FAT32 or NTSF? Is that still the case with Manic Moose? Any thing else I should look out for as I begin this journey?
I must say, in a somewhat brief listen last night, I was shocked how much better the BDP-2 sounded than my ancient Mac even using Pure Vinyl, Audirvana Plus and Amarra (always searching for the holy grail! :-)
Thanks for the help.
Craig
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Thanks for buying in Craig! I believe HFS+ is supported as read only, but I may be mistaken. Chris can weigh in to confirm. The entire USB disk detection system was rebuilt with this new version of the firmware and was designed to include more formats, but I haven't got an HFS+ disk to check myself. Don't reformat just yet.
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Thanks for buying in Craig! I believe HFS+ is supported as read only, but I may be mistaken. Chris can weigh in to confirm. The entire USB disk detection system was rebuilt with this new version of the firmware and was designed to include more formats, but I haven't got an HFS+ disk to check myself. Don't reformat just yet.
Thanks! I'm adventurous and I gave it a try. Works fine although I can't yet figure out why the BDP-2 spent hours updating (never seemed to finish) and about three quarters of the library is recognized. Also, coming from the Mac, the interface seems a bit difficult and not particularly intuitive but that's just a learning experience. After a couple of hours of listening last night I'm still very happy with the sound quality.
Craig
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Chris
OK...So I can format an internal hard drive in the BDP 2. Watched the video for installing the internal drive which stated "...install a pre-formatted drive...". If I purchase a SSD to install do I need an enclosure so the SSD can be formatted using a computer? Can an un-formatted drive be installed in the BDP 2?
Thanks, Rich
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There is no built-in provision to format an unformatted drive once it's installed in the BDP. So, you'll need to purchase a preformatted drive. I suppose you could format it from the command line, but unless that's something you're used to doing, it's easy to accidentally wipe the wrong drive. Don't most drives come pre-formatted?
-Gary
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There is no built-in provision to format an unformatted drive once it's installed in the BDP. So, you'll need to purchase a preformatted drive. I suppose you could format it from the command line, but unless that's something you're used to doing, it's easy to accidentally wipe the wrong drive. Don't most drives come pre-formatted?
-Gary
Don't know. Never purchased a SSD before. The installed drive can now be formatted. Chris has a video on how to do this. You need version S1.70. Of course the one he formats has already been formatted hence my question concerning an un-formatted drive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRsyU15-sB8&feature=youtu.be
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Hi Antun,
Sorry for taking so long to get back to you, personally i would hold off with the idea that at some point you will spend the money. Right now your right, if the BDP-1 does everything you need it to do then why get a BDP-2 when the 1 could be (likely) remain relevant until we release a BDP-3. With that said the current hold up on the BOT is making it BDP-1 compatible, so although BDP-1 production is ramping down due to low sales (in comparison to the BDP-2, 30:1); it is still a relevant piece of hardware.
Cheers,
Chris
Hi Chris and thank you for your reply!
May I ask another thing with respect to the BDP-3 - is it expected to replace both the BDP-1 and BDP-2 or just the BDP-1?
Cheers!
Antun
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Hi Chris and thank you for your reply!
May I ask another thing with respect to the BDP-3 - is it expected to replace both the BDP-1 and BDP-2 or just the BDP-1?
Cheers!
Antun
Hi Folks
There are no plans for a BDP-3 - not even on the drawing board - unless the technology changes drastically there is no need for a BDP-3.
james
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Hi Folks
There are no plans for a BDP-3 - not even on the drawing board - unless the technology changes drastically there is no need for a BDP-3.
james
Hi James!
Does that mean BDP-1 will remain in production alongside the BDP-2 for a number of years?
Cheers!
Antun
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Hi James!
Does that mean BDP-1 will remain in production alongside the BDP-2 for a number of years?
Cheers!
Antun
I would say the BDP-1 will be discontinued at some point as the BDP-2 seems to be more popular with new buyers. The BDP-1 is still much less expensive than the BDP-2 so my assumption is it will remain in the line for a while.
We will let the market decide.
james
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Thanks for buying in Craig! I believe HFS+ is supported as read only, but I may be mistaken. Chris can weigh in to confirm. The entire USB disk detection system was rebuilt with this new version of the firmware and was designed to include more formats, but I haven't got an HFS+ disk to check myself. Don't reformat just yet.
I believe hfs+ write support has been added, it's been awhile since I have tested it as it's not the first filesystem I would choose.
Cheers
Chris
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Hi fellas!
One question about connecting the BDP to a BDA-2. Is it better to use an AES connection or have the BDA-2 connected with a USB cable?
Cheers!
Antun
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Hi fellas!
One question about connecting the BDP to a BDA-2. Is it better to use an AES connection or have the BDA-2 connected with a USB cable?
Cheers!
Antun
I like the AES.
james
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Hi, Antun:
On James' recommendation, I chose an AES/EBU Bryston cable, and the sound is superb. BTW, I know you've considered the BDP-1, but I highly recommend getting the BDP-2 for its greater power and flexibility and its longer projected useful lifespan with evolving technologies. You will be thrilled how it sounds with your BDA-2.
Best,
Rich
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Chris:
My BDP should arrive in a couple weeks. When it does I plan to pop in a Crucial M500 960GB SSD. Never installed a drive before so a couple questions:
1. Should I pre-format the drive to NTSF or FAT32 using my computer or does the BDP see un-formatted drives? ( I think they come un-formatted ).
2. If the drive is formatted NTSF would this disable file transfer function?
3. Thought I read somewhere that a drive that large should not be formatted in FAT 32. Is that true?
Thanks, Rich
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The advice you are seeing about not using FAT32 is all based on using a drive in a PC environment.
All the older posts/literature point to using FAT32 and a MBR partition scheme for the BDP. You DO need to make sure you do NOT use the GUID partition type though. Use the MBR partition.
Here's a Youtube video Chris posted on how to install your drive. Looks like he was using MBR partitions and FAT32 formatting. I'm sure he'll chime in soon though and give you the best/most current info.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmafbFKnWWw
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Here's a Youtube video Chris posted on how to install your drive. Looks like he was using MBR partitions and FAT32 formatting. I'm sure he'll chime in soon though and give you the best/most current info.
Thanks, Grit
Watched the install video and caught the pre-format part this time. Guess I missed it the first time through.
I'm not sure if the install video predates the "Format from the BDP" video. Therefore my confusion about wether the drive installed could be an un-formatted one and, after installation, be formatted using the BDP. I was attempting to avoid the purchase of an enclosure to facilitate formatting at a computer. Guess the enclosure could be used with another SSD to plug into one of the USB ports on the BDP. Unless those enclosures are too power hungry.
Rich
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Don't take this for granted, but all drives I bought in the last 5 years or more (including SSD) were pre-formatted for Windows, no format action required when installed in PC.
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Don't take this for granted, but all drives I bought in the last 5 years or more (including SSD) were pre-formatted for Windows, no format action required when installed in PC.
Have they been NTFS or FAT32? I think the BDP can't transfer files into the internal drive if it is NTFS. Could be wrong there.
I just eMailed Crucial to see what, if any, file system they set up.
Rich
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Hi
You can transfer files to Fat32 or NTSF.
James
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Thanks James. That' good news.
Hey, ttsto:
Just got a reply from Crucial. Their drives are not formatted. So...Guess I'll have to buy an enclosure and pre-format the drive before installation. Maybe I'll stuff a little music in there while at the computer.
Rich
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James,
what is the largest capacity of USB flash drives I can use with the BDP-1? Can I use 64GB flash drives without problems?
Thanks!
Antun
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James,
what is the largest capacity of USB flash drives I can use with the BDP-1? Can I use 64GB flash drives without problems?
Thanks!
Antun
Sure - I have used up to 128 GB
james
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Sure - I have used up to 128 GB
james
With a BDP-1? Seriously?
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With a BDP-1? Seriously?
Hi
Yes thumbdrives are SSD's and very quick to load and play etc. I use them all the time at shows.
james
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Hi
Yes thumbdrives are SSD's and very quick to load and play etc. I use them all the time at shows.
james
Excellent!
James, you are a gentleman! I have more information than I need and I will call the dealer (AViTech, Austria) and place an order for a BDP-1.
Thank you!
Antun
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James, I sent you an email on Friday but got no reply. I ordered a BDP-1 from AViTech in Vienna and asked them to make sure everything is as I specified so I just wanted to inform you of my wishes.
Cheers!
Antun
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James, I sent you an email on Friday but got no reply. I ordered a BDP-1 from AViTech in Vienna and asked them to make sure everything is as I specified so I just wanted to inform you of my wishes.
Cheers!
Antun
Hi Antun
Yes i forwarded it to production for you - I am on holidays so not getting all me emails.
james
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Hi Antun
Yes i forwarded it to production for you - I am on holidays so not getting all me emails.
james
Thank you very much James!
Enjoy the holidays!
Antun
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Congratulations, Antun! You will be thrilled with the sound of the BDP1 through your BDA2.
Happy listening,
Rich
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Congratulations, Antun! You will be thrilled with the sound of the BDP1 through your BDA2.
Happy listening,
Rich
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Whiney Napa Valley
Just writing an email to you over here Rich! :) Of course, thank you!
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James:
Does the BDP require a UPS ( not the big brown truck ) to save it's butt during a power outage? Or does error code 04 and 05 keep bad things from happening? It is a computer after all and it does take some time to shutdown. Maybe a built in battery supply to gracefully shut the BDP down would be the ticket.
Thanks
Rich
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James:
Does the BDP require a UPS ( not the big brown truck ) to save it's butt during a power outage? Or does error code 04 and 05 keep bad things from happening? It is a computer after all and it does take some time to shutdown. Maybe a built in battery supply to gracefully shut the BDP down would be the ticket.
Thanks
Rich
Hi Rich,
I know with earlier versions of the software there were some concerns but recent versions I believe Chris has built in some safeguards, Will let Chris detail it for you.
james
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Hello!
Is the BDP-1 now discontinued? I can no longer see it on the Bryston wehsite. If that is the case, then I sure do hope it is not because I finally placed an order for one! :)
Cheers!
Antun
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Hello!
Is the BDP-1 now discontinued? I can no longer see it on the Bryston wehsite. If that is the case, then I sure do hope it is not because I finally placed an order for one! :)
Cheers!
Antun
Hi Autun
We are only going to offer the BDP-1 as a special order going forward as the BDP-2 is outselling it 10 to 1.
james
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Hi Autun
We are only going to offer the BDP-1 as a special order going forward as the BDP-2 is outselling it 10 to 1.
james
Hi James!
Understood! I still think BDP-1 is a lot more sensible value for the money if you don't need eSATA connectivity.
I don't want to revive the old BOT-1 thread so let me post my question here instead - is that project still going forward? Are you still inclined on making it BDP-1 compatible through USB interface?
Cheers!
Antun
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Hi James!
Understood! I still think BDP-1 is a lot more sensible value for the money if you don't need eSATA connectivity.
I don't want to revive the old BOT-1 thread so let me post my question here instead - is that project still going forward? Are you still inclined on making it BDP-1 compatible through USB interface?
Cheers!
Antun
Hi Antun
Yes we are still looking at the BOT and it will be USB compatible.
james
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Hi Antun
Yes we are still looking at the BOT and it will be USB compatible.
james
Thank you James!
Antun
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I believe hfs+ write support has been added, it's been awhile since I have tested it as it's not the first filesystem I would choose.
Cheers
Chris
Chris,
I need to purchase and install a scratch drive. My music files are currently stored on a 1 TB HFS+ formatted drive (and working perfectly on my BDP-2) so can one use HFS+ for the scratch disc? Secondly, can one use either a FAT32 or NTSF formatted drive as the scratch drive with the music files stored on a HFS+ drive--will mixing formats create any "down the line" issues?
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Hi Chris or someone else who knows!
How can I revert to the previous firmware from the Manic Moose?
Regards,
Toms
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Cheers everybody.
My BDP-1 goes directly on to a screen that says "BDP1 000040 S1.40 2012-05-10" and nothing happens. If you press any buttons on the device nothing happens. Just this screen. I am stuck. Shutting down and powering up does nothing.
Tride to get into its Settings through bryston-bdp-1.local but when it says username and password I write bryston for both but I transfer to a internal server error site.
I am a sad audiophile. So sad. :cry:
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Cheers everybody.
My BDP-1 goes directly on to a screen that says "BDP1 000040 S1.40 2012-05-10" and nothing happens. If you press any buttons on the device nothing happens. Just this screen. I am stuck. Shutting down and powering up does nothing.
Tride to get into its Settings through bryston-bdp-1.local but when it says username and password I write bryston for both but I transfer to a internal server error site.
I am a sad audiophile. So sad. :cry:
Hi
Email crice@bryston.ca and he will assist.
james
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Hi
Email crice@bryston.ca and he will assist.
james
Thanks James that was fast.
I e-mailed Chris right away.
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Get used to it. Bryston service is of the highest order
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Thanks James that was fast.
I e-mailed Chris right away.
He needs to either call or we need to send him a replacement cf card
18006328217
Cheers,
Chris
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This is my first Bryston product and wow! The speed and quality of the service was the best I've seen in the industry.
Thank you James and Chris.
With the help from Chris I managed to flash my CF card with a bit of Mac Os Terminal magic and I can play music now. Which is great. I am sorry to say that as a transport it beats my Wadia S7i marginally. Insane.
I still have one more problem though. Maybe one of you can help me out.
I do not use a remote or any network device to control my bdp-1. I just use the buttons on the device. The problem is when I press the NEXT button, or press the PREV button twice the music cuts and the display says Bryston BDP-1 with a square (STOP) sign. I can't get to the next or previous song. The player just stops like there is no other song. I can manually select the next song and play. No problem with that.
Also when a song is finished the bdp-1 do not start the next song. When it is finished it is done with making music. Again I have to manually start the next song using the list.
It doesn't matter if I activate the Shuffle function. After a song is finished the bdp-1 tell me to get my a** over there and play the next song manually.
Cheers everybody
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This is my first Bryston product and wow! The speed and quality of the service was the best I've seen in the industry.
Thank you James and Chris.
With the help from Chris I managed to flash my CF card with a bit of Mac Os Terminal magic and I can play music now. Which is great. I am sorry to say that as a transport it beats my Wadia S7i marginally. Insane.
I still have one more problem though. Maybe one of you can help me out.
I do not use a remote or any network device to control my bdp-1. I just use the buttons on the device. The problem is when I press the NEXT button, or press the PREV button twice the music cuts and the display says Bryston BDP-1 with a square (STOP) sign. I can't get to the next or previous song. The player just stops like there is no other song. I can manually select the next song and play. No problem with that.
Also when a song is finished the bdp-1 do not start the next song. When it is finished it is done with making music. Again I have to manually start the next song using the list.
It doesn't matter if I activate the Shuffle function. After a song is finished the bdp-1 tell me to get my a** over there and play the next song manually.
Cheers everybody
Hi
The front panel was really not intended for managing your playlist etc. I would recommend that you use your computer (laptop or desktop) or if you can an itouch or ipad for control and management. Is that possible?
james
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This is my first Bryston product and wow! The speed and quality of the service was the best I've seen in the industry.
Thank you James and Chris.
With the help from Chris I managed to flash my CF card with a bit of Mac Os Terminal magic and I can play music now. Which is great. I am sorry to say that as a transport it beats my Wadia S7i marginally. Insane.
I still have one more problem though. Maybe one of you can help me out.
I do not use a remote or any network device to control my bdp-1. I just use the buttons on the device. The problem is when I press the NEXT button, or press the PREV button twice the music cuts and the display says Bryston BDP-1 with a square (STOP) sign. I can't get to the next or previous song. The player just stops like there is no other song. I can manually select the next song and play. No problem with that.
Also when a song is finished the bdp-1 do not start the next song. When it is finished it is done with making music. Again I have to manually start the next song using the list.
It doesn't matter if I activate the Shuffle function. After a song is finished the bdp-1 tell me to get my a** over there and play the next song manually.
Cheers everybody
Ok I am officially Stupid.
I shouldn't be licensed to get near complicated devices like bdp-1. There should be a law about it.
My problem was that I was selecting individual songs from the device menu so that the device was playing only that song. Seeing the song not part of an album but as a standalone file.
When I played the music by pressing play on an artist or an album all my problems are solved. Next and Prev buttons are working.
Cheers
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Ok I am officially Stupid.
I shouldn't be licensed to get near complicated devices like bdp-1. There should be a law about it.
My problem was that I was selecting individual songs from the device menu so that the device was playing only that song. Seeing the song not part of an album but as a standalone file.
When I played the music by pressing play on an artist or an album all my problems are solved. Next and Prev buttons are working.
Cheers
Hi
Thats great news and that is the way the front panel works but if you can please look into getting a control device - it makes every function much easier to control.
james
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Hi
The front panel was really not intended for managing your playlist etc. I would recommend that you use your computer (laptop or desktop) or if you can an itouch or ipad for control and management. Is that possible?
james
Yes I will try that. Thank you James. The sound is amazing.
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Hello fellas!
As of yesterday, I am a new owner of a BDP-1 digital player!
None of my transports sound as good and even though I am currently using a USB cable with the BDA-2, the sound is unquestionably superior to having the BDA-2 connected to a PC. There is a noticeable smoothness, analogue feel, to the sound but with all the detail you expect from a high-resolution player like this.
I have a couple of questions though so I hope you can provide some answers for me.
1) the playback stops after the song has ended. I suppose you need to create a playlist in order to have continuous playback of all the songs. How do I do it? Keep in mind I am using the player as a CD player with no network.
2) the display goes off after the controls have not been touched for some time even though it still keeps playing. Is this normal and can I turn this off so that the display stays on all the time?
Thanks!
Antun
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Hello fellas!
As of yesterday, I am a new owner of a BDP-1 digital player!
None of my transports sound as good and even though I am currently using a USB cable with the BDA-2, the sound is unquestionably superior to having the BDA-2 connected to a PC. There is a noticeable smoothness, analogue feel, to the sound but with all the detail you expect from a high-resolution player like this. You can also just buy a router and connect it to the BDP1 and have a dedicated network if that is easier for you.
I have a couple of questions though so I hope you can provide some answers for me.
1) the playback stops after the song has ended. I suppose you need to create a playlist in order to have continuous playback of all the songs. How do I do it? Keep in mind I am using the player as a CD player with no network.
2) the display goes off after the controls have not been touched for some time even though it still keeps playing. Is this normal and can I turn this off so that the display stays on all the time?
Thanks!
Antun
Hi Antun
1. You are using the from panel buttons I assume so use the Play button when you see the Drive displayed and it will play all the songs. Yes you need to get on the network and use your computer or ipad etc, to control and manage your files.
2. Yes the display will turn off after a period of time to reduce wear and tear on the display. It will come back on as soon as you make a change in the playlist etc.
I agree that the BDP really does provide a much better quality of audio than most people realize as I think the assumption is 'digital is digital' so the computer does not matter. As you have found out the computer is a big part of the end result.
ENJOY!
james
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Hi Antun
1. You are using the from panel buttons I assume so use the Play button when you see the Drive displayed and it will play all the songs. Yes you need to get on the network and use your computer or ipad etc, to control and manage your files.
2. Yes the display will turn off after a period of time to reduce wear and tear on the display. It will come back on as soon as you make a change in the playlist etc.
I agree that the BDP really does provide a much better quality of audio than most people realize as I think the assumption is 'digital is digital' so the computer does not matter. As you have found out the computer is a big part of the end result.
ENJOY!
james
Hi James!
I am still in a bit of a shock over here. I mean, I spent money on assembling a PC with noiseless power supply, processor cooling and everything else only to find out the driver business is an unpenetrable obstacle. At that point I started questioning computers can be a reliable source for music playback and that put a shade on the external DAC for me and I wondered why on earth I didn't get a CD player instead.
The BDP-1 changes my mind again. Now, I am sure there is a computer somewhere inside there but it certainly doesn't show and to me, this is a real achievement. Together with the BDA-2, it makes for a compelling highly integrated separates system that makes a lot of sense. It can be as simple or as powerful as you want it to be. I had no idea... I did not think a digital transport could enhance the performance in such an extent. I have used a PC, a dedicated CD transport with fine mechanics and DVD players that measured the best on the scope but all of that is now in the past. I get shivers when I hear the Firebird Suite. It completely bowls me over. And all this time, I had no idea...
I took a bit of time to relisten to some of the old samples of vintage analogue synthesizers and let me tell you, the Spectral sounds as good as I have heard it. Searing and melodic. Staggering.
You know, when I was a kid, I heard a pair of Kef Cresta 2 soeakers connected to a Kenwood amplifier and the matching CD player. I still remember the experience and to this day I haven't been able to repeat it even though I have heard much better systems. Until now. Something clicked into it's place and I lost ground. I have no idea what you did to this player or how, but you are to be congratulated. It was the missing link that combines it all together and makes the system greater than the sum of it's parts will allow. Every part of me, as a musician and as a music listener, tells me this is right and it sounds as good as studio sessions or live venues did. Look at me! I am excited over something that knows only 0s and 1s! Insanely great!
I must also thank you for including the cute little Bryston USB thumbdrive with a lovely music selection.
I am left with no words.
Antun
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Hi James!
I am still in a bit of a shock over here. I mean, I spent money on assembling a PC with noiseless power supply, processor cooling and everything else only to find out the driver business is an unpenetrable obstacle. At that point I started questioning computers can be a reliable source for music playback and that put a shade on the external DAC for me and I wondered why on earth I didn't get a CD player instead.
The BDP-1 changes my mind again. Now, I am sure there is a computer somewhere inside there but it certainly doesn't show and to me, this is a real achievement. Together with the BDA-2, it makes for a compelling highly integrated separates system that makes a lot of sense. It can be as simple or as powerful as you want it to be. I had no idea... I did not think a digital transport could enhance the performance in such an extent. I have used a PC, a dedicated CD transport with fine mechanics and DVD players that measured the best on the scope but all of that is now in the past. I get shivers when I hear the Firebird Suite. It completely bowls me over. And all this time, I had no idea...
I took a bit of time to relisten to some of the old samples of vintage analogue synthesizers and let me tell you, the Spectral sounds as good as I have heard it. Searing and melodic. Staggering.
You know, when I was a kid, I heard a pair of Kef Cresta 2 soeakers connected to a Kenwood amplifier and the matching CD player. I still remember the experience and to this day I haven't been able to repeat it even though I have heard much better systems. Until now. Something clicked into it's place and I lost ground. I have no idea what you did to this player or how, but you are to be congratulated. It was the missing link that combines it all together and makes the system greater than the sum of it's parts will allow. Every part of me, as a musician and as a music listener, tells me this is right and it sounds as good as studio sessions or live venues did. Look at me! I am excited over something that knows only 0s and 1s! Insanely great!
I must also thank you for including the cute little Bryston USB thumbdrive with a lovely music selection.
I am left with no words.
Antun
Hi Antun
You are spot on with "it just sounds right". I think there is a very fine line between a Great audio system and a Superb audio system - the difference is the ability to express the emotion in the music. If the system has the ability to induce 'shivers', 'make the hair stand up' and 'take you there' in my opinion that is the icing on the cake. :thumb:
james
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Well put, Antun, and congratulations on your BDP/BDA system. I find the BDA/BDP combo the finest source in my system, with superb resolution and incredibly engaging sound. May you have many hours of happy listening.
Rich
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Whiney Napa Valley
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New owner here.
I have searched and have not been able to locate either a tagging "best practices" document for the BDP-1/2 or a discussion of what to do or not do.
I am familiar with ripping and tagging. My question is limited to what works best for these units and if there is anything to avoid.
For example, do the units prefer embedded album art, or is it better to place the album art in the album's folder (if so, named "folder.jpg?"). Are there fields to avoid which cause reading/playback issues? Are their fields which others have found particularly useful?, etc.
Thank you for the help.
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Cover art that is embedded in flac files is not accessible by the Android or IOS remote apps, therefore you should have "cover.jpg" file in the music folder and set up appropriate the MPod or MPdroid.
link (http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=92231.340)
Other field that you may find useful is ReplayGain; even if MPD installation on BDP allows use of such information, there is not simple way to use it
link (http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=110296.msg1343251#msg1343251)
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I was just reading through the manual again and didn't notice any mention of internal drives. I thought it was possible to install an internal drive, is that not the case? I see where it describes attaching an external eSATA drive and USB drive.
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Hi fellas!
How exactly do I unplug a USB thumbdrive from the BDP-1? I am reading the manual and it says unplugging the drive while it is playing will crash the software. Naturally, it would happen on any computer but the manual doesn't explain the exact procedure.
Is it safe to unplug the drive when the playback is stopped or is it preferred to turn the machine off?
Also, how do I fast forward or rewind withing a track? Holding the FFW/REW buttons does nothing. I am using the machine with it's hardware controls on the fascia.
Cheers!
Antun
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Hi fellas!
How exactly do I unplug a USB thumbdrive from the BDP-1? I am reading the manual and it says unplugging the drive while it is playing will crash the software. Naturally, it would happen on any computer but the manual doesn't explain the exact procedure.
Is it safe to unplug the drive when the playback is stopped or is it preferred to turn the machine off?
Also, how do I fast forward or rewind withing a track? Holding the FFW/REW buttons does nothing. I am using the machine with it's hardware controls on the fascia.
Cheers!
Antun
Hi
You can insert or disconnect a thumbdrive at any time without issues. You have to refresh the interface page though to see the changes.
You have to use the Computer interface to advance quickly - can not be done on the front panel controls. The front panel controls are really a backup for normal operation with a computer or hand held interface device.
james
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I was just reading through the manual again and didn't notice any mention of internal drives. I thought it was possible to install an internal drive, is that not the case? I see where it describes attaching an external eSATA drive and USB drive.
Nevermid, I just found the youtube video showing the installation of a hard drive. Is there a size limit on the drive that can be installed?
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Nevermid, I just found the youtube video showing the installation of a hard drive. Is there a size limit on the drive that can be installed?
As long as it is a USB 2.5 drive no issue. I have used up to 1TB rotary drives and 230G SSD.
james
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Thanks James, so 2.5" only, not 3.5"?
I'm just thinking as a backup if the network goes down it would be good to have the space onboard otherwise I would be storing all of my music on a NAS, that's the plan anyways.
Can the music from a thumb drive be copied to the internal drive if the network is down or do we need a PC, iPad, etc. in order to do the copying thus the network has to be up and running.
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Thanks James, so 2.5" only, not 3.5"?
I'm just thinking as a backup if the network goes down it would be good to have the space onboard otherwise I would be storing all of my music on a NAS, that's the plan anyways.
Can the music from a thumb drive be copied to the internal drive if the network is down or do we need a PC, iPad, etc. in order to do the copying thus the network has to be up and running.
Correct not 3.5.
I have only copied via the network so I will ask Chris to comment as to the possibility of other methods.
james
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Thanks
That would be great if you could ask. I'm thinking if the network is down and you can't copy from a thumb drive then it may make more sense to just have extra thumb drives on hand rather than install an internal drive otherwise you would need a defacto bunch of files already installed and ready to go in case of emergency :)
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Hi
You can insert or disconnect a thumbdrive at any time without issues. You have to refresh the interface page though to see the changes.
You have to use the Computer interface to advance quickly - can not be done on the front panel controls. The front panel controls are really a backup for normal operation with a computer or hand held interface device.
james
Thanks!
So basically I can disconnect a USB thumbdrive at any time as long as the music is not playing from that drive, right?
Antun
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Thanks!
So basically I can disconnect a USB thumbdrive at any time as long as the music is not playing from that drive, right?
Antun
Hi
Does not matter if music is playing or not. The music is stored in a Buffer so when you pull the drive it will play for a while depending on the resolution of the song.
james
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Hi
Does not matter if music is playing or not. The music is stored in a Buffer so when you pull the drive it will play for a while depending on the resolution of the song.
james
I am not so brave to unplug the drive while it is playing but still, that is good to know!! :thumb:
Yesterday I ran into a bit of a problem with this music file. I used to play it on the computer in Foobar before and even though it is a single file, Foobar recognized it as a playlist and you could skip the songs. The BDP-1 recognized it as a single file and once it started playing it, I could not stop the playback because the entire time it said "Loading...". I then checked the file on the computer and realized it is 2.5GB in size (it is a 192/24 sampler from The Nordic sound). I pressed the power button and the player shut off normally, something that would have crashed an ordinary computer no doubt.
Is there a way around this or is it better not to play such files? The file just might be too big for the player to process.
Cheers!
Antun
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I am not so brave to unplug the drive while it is playing but still, that is good to know!! :thumb:
Yesterday I ran into a bit of a problem with this music file. I used to play it on the computer in Foobar before and even though it is a single file, Foobar recognized it as a playlist and you could skip the songs. The BDP-1 recognized it as a single file and once it started playing it, I could not stop the playback because the entire time it said "Loading...". I then checked the file on the computer and realized it is 2.5GB in size (it is a 192/24 sampler from The Nordic sound). I pressed the power button and the player shut off normally, something that would have crashed an ordinary computer no doubt.
Is there a way around this or is it better not to play such files? The file just might be too big for the player to process.
Cheers!
Antun
I believe there is a limit to file size with Linux but will let Chris comment.
james
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I am not so brave to unplug the drive while it is playing but still, that is good to know!! :thumb:
Yesterday I ran into a bit of a problem with this music file. I used to play it on the computer in Foobar before and even though it is a single file, Foobar recognized it as a playlist and you could skip the songs. The BDP-1 recognized it as a single file and once it started playing it, I could not stop the playback because the entire time it said "Loading...". I then checked the file on the computer and realized it is 2.5GB in size (it is a 192/24 sampler from The Nordic sound). I pressed the power button and the player shut off normally, something that would have crashed an ordinary computer no doubt.
Is there a way around this or is it better not to play such files? The file just might be too big for the player to process.
Cheers!
Antun
Hi Antun,
The only time you need to worry about corrupting the filesystem is when your writing files to a drive and yanking it out. The only time data should be written to the drive is while your copying audio to it over the network or using the playlist copy feature found in Manic Moose.
I have only had a report of one other file that was an excess of 2GB, that was from when we first launched the player nearly four years ago. I recall the issue was with bug in our at the time compiled library of ffmpeg. Could be the same problem has reoccurred in manic moose.
Cheers,
Chris
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Hi Antun,
The only time you need to worry about corrupting the filesystem is when your writing files to a drive and yanking it out. The only time data should be written to the drive is while your copying audio to it over the network or using the playlist copy feature found in Manic Moose.
I have only had a report of one other file that was an excess of 2GB, that was from when we first launched the player nearly four years ago. I recall the issue was with bug in our at the time compiled library of ffmpeg. Could be the same problem has reoccurred in manic moose.
Cheers,
Chris
Hi Chris!
That's interesting! The file is too large for me to send it to you but I could burn it on a DVD and send it to you if you want to take a look at it. I could possibly find the download link from where I got it.
It isn't a big deal anyway because every other file works flawlessly and even really long symphony movements in high resolution load instantly.
Cheers!
Antun
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Fellas,
who can tell me what this means:
eth0 00:0d:b9:0e:68:d8
It is displayed on the BDP-1 screen. I have no idea what it means or why it is being displayed.
Is there any way BDP-1 can show time on it's display like a CD player?
All of this is new to me so I am sorry if I seem rather uninformed!
Cheers!
Antun
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Fellas,
who can tell me what this means:
eth0 00:0d:b9:0e:68:d8
It is displayed on the BDP-1 screen. I have no idea what it means or why it is being displayed.
Is there any way BDP-1 can show time on it's display like a CD player?
All of this is new to me so I am sorry if I seem rather uninformed!
Cheers!
Antun
Thats the Ethernet connection.
james
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Thats the Ethernet connection.
james
Hi James!
But it is not connected to the network.
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Hi James!
But it is not connected to the network.
Yes thats why it has 0000 in the address.
james
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Yes thats why it has 0000 in the address.
james
It's like an IP address then? I see!
But can you please tell me whether the display can show track time?
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It's like an IP address then? I see!
But can you please tell me whether the display can show track time?
Hi,
No the interface you use on your Computer or IPAD will show track time and resolution etc. Thats why I was saying getting an IPAD to control your files or a Laptop etc. would make things much more convenient as well as informative.
james
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Hi,
No the interface you use on your Computer or IPAD will show track time and resolution etc. Thats why I was saying getting an IPAD to control your files or a Laptop etc. would make things much more convenient as well as informative.
james
Hi James!
I am slowly beginning to see that! :thumb:
Okay, I'll see where I can run long network cables and get a tablet or something. But I'd still like it if you guys would include basic time information on the main display.
Cheers!
Antun
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Hi James!
I am slowly beginning to see that! :thumb:
Okay, I'll see where I can run long network cables and get a tablet or something. But I'd still like it if you guys would include basic time information on the main display.
Cheers!
Antun
We really can't as far as I know as it is a function of the interface not the front panel display capability.
Also you do not have to run a long Ethernet cable - just buy a cheep router and attach it to the rear of the BDP and you will have a dedicated network for the BDP - its what I call my 'Man Cave' option. :thumb:
james
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We really can't as far as I know as it is a function of the interface not the front panel display capability.
Also you do not have to run a long Ethernet cable - just buy a cheep router and attach it to the rear of the BDP and you will have a dedicated network for the BDP - its what I call my 'Man Cave' option. :thumb:
james
That's me! Man in Cave! :thumb:
Alright, I'll do it! Thanks for your help James, I appreciate it!
Cheers!
Antun
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One other question about loading. For instance, I have this Kingston USB thumbdrive (32GB) plugged into the BDP-1. I use the cursor buttons to navigate to that drive and press "Play". It says "loading..." for minutes but it doesn't load the songs. The drive holds around 10GB of files but interestingly, if I navigate into the Kingston drive and select a specific album and then press "Play", playback starts immediately no matter the resolution. Does loading an entire thumbdrive take long for specific reasons or are there limits to the system and it cannot load the entire drive?
Cheers!
Antun
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One other question about loading. For instance, I have this Kingston USB thumbdrive (32GB) plugged into the BDP-1. I use the cursor buttons to navigate to that drive and press "Play". It says "loading..." for minutes but it doesn't load the songs. The drive holds around 10GB of files but interestingly, if I navigate into the Kingston drive and select a specific album and then press "Play", playback starts immediately no matter the resolution. Does loading an entire thumbdrive take long for specific reasons or are there limits to the system and it cannot load the entire drive?
Cheers!
Antun
Hi Antun
How many songs total?
Time for an IPAD - :lol:
james
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One other question about loading. For instance, I have this Kingston USB thumbdrive (32GB) plugged into the BDP-1. I use the cursor buttons to navigate to that drive and press "Play". It says "loading..." for minutes but it doesn't load the songs. The drive holds around 10GB of files but interestingly, if I navigate into the Kingston drive and select a specific album and then press "Play", playback starts immediately no matter the resolution. Does loading an entire thumbdrive take long for specific reasons or are there limits to the system and it cannot load the entire drive?
Cheers!
Antun
Hi Antun,
What if you have just the thumb drive plugged in, push the play button before even navigating to the drives menu?
If you place the BDP into service mode, email me the service id, I can see why this is occurring and perhaps fix it if it is a software bug.
Cheers
Chris
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We really can't as far as I know as it is a function of the interface not the front panel display capability.
Also you do not have to run a long Ethernet cable - just buy a cheep router and attach it to the rear of the BDP and you will have a dedicated network for the BDP - its what I call my 'Man Cave' option. :thumb:
james
There are other options like using a wireless bridge or powerline av kit
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Hi Antun,
What if you have just the thumb drive plugged in, push the play button before even navigating to the drives menu?
If you place the BDP into service mode, email me the service id, I can see why this is occurring and perhaps fix it if it is a software bug.
Cheers
Chris
Hi Chris!
Okay, this is what happens:
If I plug in two thumbdrives and press play while in default screen (no navigation into drives or folders) it will play both drives in succession flawlessly.
If I navigate to "drives" and select the provided Bryston sampler and press play, it plays flawlessly. However, if I navigate to my own Kingston drive instead (displayed right underneath the Bryston one), it says "loading..." but does nothing.
If I navigate into the folders on that Kingston drive and press play on whichever album, it plays flawlessly.
So it appears I can't select that Kingston drive and play all the files on it without going into specific folders on it because it won't play it.
What shall I do?
How do I enter the service mode and where do I find the service ID?
Cheers!
Antun
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To add to my previous email, this is what happens when only the Kingston drive is plugged in:
When in default sreen mode (no selected drives or folders) it plays flawlessly when I press play.
However, if I navigate to "drives" so that the Kingston drive is displayed and press play does nothing. It says "loading..." but doesn't really load the music.
It's funny, it must be software. It plays the drive while in the default screen and it plays them if you eneter the drive and select a specific album or even a specific track if you go deep into the folder to display individual tracks. But it just doesn't play the drive when you navigate to it. At least not with my Kingston drive, it does with the provided Bryston sampler drive.
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Hi fellas!
I need a bit of help here.
Okay, so I connected the BDP-1 to a network switch. I have copied the IP address from the BDP-1 display into the Firefox address bar on the PC and it opened the interface. Which interface is this? Is this the "MAX" version?
Also, I have done the same thing on the Android smartphone in it's Chrome browser and it opened a very similar application that seems to have less menus. Is this the "MINI" version then?
I also see that the interface says "New firmware version available". How can this be when the machine has been with me for less than one week?
I can now place the BDP-1 in service mode. Chris, please give me your email address and I will send you the service ID.
Cheers!
Antun
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Hi fellas!
I need a bit of help here.
Okay, so I connected the BDP-1 to a network switch. I have copied the IP address from the BDP-1 display into the Firefox address bar on the PC and it opened the interface. Which interface is this? Is this the "MAX" version?
Also, I have done the same thing on the Android smartphone in it's Chrome browser and it opened a very similar application that seems to have less menus. Is this the "MINI" version then?
I also see that the interface says "New firmware version available". How can this be when the machine has been with me for less than one week?
I can now place the BDP-1 in service mode. Chris, please give me your email address and I will send you the service ID.
Cheers!
Antun
Hi Antun
I would recommend Safari or Chrome over Firefox.
james
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Hi Antun,
What if you have just the thumb drive plugged in, push the play button before even navigating to the drives menu?
If you place the BDP into service mode, email me the service id, I can see why this is occurring and perhaps fix it if it is a software bug.
Cheers
Chris
Hi Chris!
Sent you a PM! Let me know when you want me to place the machine in SM and I'll send you the service ID.
Cheers!
Antun
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Hi fellas!
I need a bit of help here.
Okay, so I connected the BDP-1 to a network switch. I have copied the IP address from the BDP-1 display into the Firefox address bar on the PC and it opened the interface. Which interface is this? Is this the "MAX" version?
Also, I have done the same thing on the Android smartphone in it's Chrome browser and it opened a very similar application that seems to have less menus. Is this the "MINI" version then?
I also see that the interface says "New firmware version available". How can this be when the machine has been with me for less than one week?
I can now place the BDP-1 in service mode. Chris, please give me your email address and I will send you the service ID.
Cheers!
Antun
We purposely ship our machines with firmware that is one revision behind so the customer immediately knows what to expect when software becomes available. In your case it sounds like you have purchased an older piece from spring, I say that because it sounds like you have a system with the older loony loon (S1.XX) firmware. I only say hat because you mention max and mini, two interfaces replaced by one (media player) in the new firmware.
Cheers
Chris
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We purposely ship our machines with firmware that is one revision behind so the customer immediately knows what to expect when software becomes available. In your case it sounds like you have purchased an older piece from spring, I say that because it sounds like you have a system with the older loony loon (S1.XX) firmware. I only say hat because you mention max and mini, two interfaces replaced by one (media player) in the new firmware.
Cheers
Chris
Hi Chris!
It says S2.04 2014-05-20 on the front display. I am really not familiar with either MAX or MINI. It says MEDIA PLAYER in the menu. I just mentioned those two because I watched some videos of James introducting the BDP-1 and thought that must have been it. I will place the machine in SM and let you know the ID at 10am ET according to your wishes.
Best wishes!
Antun
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Hi Antun
New MM software looks like this on your interface:
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=104521)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=104522)
james
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Hi Antun
New MM software looks like this on your interface:
[james
It looks exactly like that James!
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Hi Antun
New MM software looks like this on your interface:
james
James, may I have Chris' email? I'd like to ask him something.
Cheers!
Antun
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James, may I have Chris' email? I'd like to ask him something.
Cheers!
Antun
Sure - email me at jamestanner@bryston.com
james
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Sure - email me at jamestanner@bryston.com
james
James!
We had a power blackout. The BDP-1 lost it's IP address and shows only zeros on it's display. I use it's IP to access it's interface in the Chrome and of course, now it doesn't work and I can't access it. It is like the machine isn't even connected to the internet. I tried restarting it a few times but it just shows zeros.
What should I do?
Cheers!
Antun
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James!
We had a power blackout. The BDP-1 lost it's IP address and shows only zeros on it's display. I use it's IP to access it's interface in the Chrome and of course, now it doesn't work and I can't access it. It is like the machine isn't even connected to the internet. I tried restarting it a few times but it just shows zeros.
What should I do?
Cheers!
Antun
I will let Chris respond but if it does not show an IP address then my guess is the router is not sending one?
I assume the front panel works OK?
james
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I will let Chris respond but if it does not show an IP address then my guess is the router is not sending one?
I assume the front panel works OK?
james
Hi James!
Yes, the front panel is okay and I can operate the machine with no problems. It is connected to the same switch as the computer and the computer is working fine. I did some experiments with cables and they work fine too. It is just that BDP-1 won't recognize it's internet connection.
I can also access the USB thumbdrives connected to the BDP-1 with the computer so obviously, the BDP-1 has a network connection.
I tried accessing it by entering http://bryston-bdp-1.local in the Chrome search bar instead of the IP address but no luck. It says the page cannot be opened.
Antun
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Hi James!
Yes, the front panel is okay and I can operate the machine with no problems. It is connected to the same switch as the computer and the computer is working fine. I did some experiments with cables and they work fine too. It is just that BDP-1 won't recognize it's internet connection.
I can also access the USB thumbdrives connected to the BDP-1 with the computer so obviously, the BDP-1 has a network connection.
I tried accessing it by entering http://bryston-bdp-1.local in the Chrome search bar instead of the IP address but no luck. It says the page cannot be opened.
Antun
Ok it sure sounds like the router is the issue - do you have another router to try - are you using a wireless bridge?
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Ok it sure sounds like the router is the issue - do you have another router to try - are you using a wireless bridge?
I have a router downstairs. The cables runs to a switch downstairs to accomodate the server, IPTV and the phone. One cable from that switch goes upstairs into another switch to which I have connected the computer and now the BDP-1.
So it's a wired connection, no wifi. I only use wifi when I am controlling it via Android phone.
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I have a router downstairs. The cables runs to a switch downstairs to accomodate the server, IPTV and the phone. One cable from that switch goes upstairs into another switch to which I have connected the computer and now the BDP-1.
So it's a wired connection, no wifi. I only use wifi when I am controlling it via Android phone.
Ok maybe consider getting another router and connecting it directly to the BDP using the Man-cave option I mentioned and that should tell you where the problem lies.
james
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Ok it sure sounds like the router is the issue - do you have another router to try - are you using a wireless bridge?
Oh my... Now, don't get upset but the IP address is there after all! What I didn't realise is that once the BDP-1 has initialised, you need to press the "down" cursor button for the IP address to appear. I kept pressing the "LEFT" cursor button and always got that eth000... Pressing "DOWN" shows the IP adress as 192.XXX.X.XX.
The address is different than what it was before the power blackout we had this morning but I have read this is normal and that if I want to have a constant IP address, I need to make some changes to the router settings, right?
Antun
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Oh my... Now, don't get upset but the IP address is there after all! What I didn't realise is that once the BDP-1 has initialised, you need to press the "down" cursor button for the IP address to appear. I kept pressing the "LEFT" cursor button and always got that eth000... Pressing "DOWN" shows the IP adress as 192.XXX.X.XX.
The address is different than what it was before the power blackout we had this morning but I have read this is normal and that if I want to have a constant IP address, I need to make some changes to the router settings, right?
Antun
Correct you can set it to a Static IP address if you want but generally it will keep the assigned IP address - at least I find that in most cases. Glad we found out what was going on :thumb:
james
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Correct you can set it to a Static IP address if you want but generally it will keep the assigned IP address - at least I find that in most cases. Glad we found out what was going on :thumb:
james
Me too! Thank you!
Let me ask one more thing - the PC interface says "BDP has no internet connection" right above "New firmware is available". I don't know why it says that and it is something I noticed when I first connected the BDP-1 to the network. Any ideas?
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Me too! Thank you!
Let me ask one more thing - the PC interface says "BDP has no internet connection" right above "New firmware is available". I don't know why it says that and it is something I noticed when I first connected the BDP-1 to the network. Any ideas?
Don't worry about that as it searches for the connection every few minutes and it is still connected.
James
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Don't worry about that as it searches for the connection every few minutes and it is still connected.
James
Oh I see! Well, the PC interface runs on Chrome and it too needs to be refreshed every now and then. I am not worried!
Chris tells me there will be a new version of firmware next week which will fix a bug in the diagnstic program on the BDP which will then be used to examine the BDP to try and find out why the entire drive cannot be loaded once navigated to "drives" and pressed "play".
At least, that is whyt I think he said!! Chance of comprehension on my part when it comes to IT is less than 50%!!
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Hi fellas!
What does "Error 05" mean? This is the second time it happened. The manual says it is because of higher voltage coming from the outlet and the circuit prevents damage to BDP-1's microprocessor.
Is this true?
I switched the machine off and then back on and it works perfectly. Is this normal?
Cheers!
Antun
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Hi fellas!
What does "Error 05" mean? This is the second time it happened. The manual says it is because of higher voltage coming from the outlet and the circuit prevents damage to BDP-1's microprocessor.
Is this true?
I switched the machine off and then back on and it works perfectly. Is this normal?
Cheers!
Antun
I don't know why it says microprocessor, it's to protect the linear regulator from overheating and burning up. It all depends on how stable the power lines are. In North America it's not uncommon for some people to start getting error 04 messages in the summer time. The error 04 can be tripped by a severe enough brown out, the brown outs are caused by the increase load on the power grid by all the air conditioners running at once. The BDP-2 has been designed to tolerate a 10% (maybe 20% it's been over a year since I did the test) +/- swing in the voltage line. Error 05 can be compensated by increasing the load on the BDP's transformer by plugging in a bus powered USB hard drive.
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I don't know why it says microprocessor, it's to protect the linear regulator from overheating and burning up. It all depends on how stable the power lines are. In North America it's not uncommon for some people to start getting error 04 messages in the summer time. The error 04 can be tripped by a severe enough brown out, the brown outs are caused by the increase load on the power grid by all the air conditioners running at once. The BDP-2 has been designed to tolerate a 10% (maybe 20% it's been over a year since I did the test) +/- swing in the voltage line. Error 05 can be compensated by increasing the load on the BDP's transformer by plugging in a bus powered USB hard drive.
Hi Chris!
I am not sure what you mean by "Error 05 can be compensated by increasing the load on the BDP's transformer by plugging in a bus powered USB hard drive"... You mean to say that I can preven Error 05 from happening if I plug in a hard drive to my BDP-1 that is powered directly from the USB?
I assume the BDP-1 has the same protection you speak of as the BDP-2?
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Hi Chris!
I am not sure what you mean by "Error 05 can be compensated by increasing the load on the BDP's transformer by plugging in a bus powered USB hard drive"... You mean to say that I can preven Error 05 from happening if I plug in a hard drive to my BDP-1 that is powered directly from the USB?
I assume the BDP-1 has the same protection you speak of as the BDP-2?
Yes and yes
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Hi All
I have not been here in ages. My current BDP-1 software is S1.75 2014-05-01. Is there a newer version now. One thing I really miss is the radio streaming. Wish we could have it back.
Cheers
VK
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I'm in the process of setting up my first NAS and I need to choose a file system. The default for my Synology DS415play is ext4 so I was wondering if the BDP's can access drives formatted in ext4 without issue or should I look at formatting in something else, perhaps NTFS? I want to avoid Fat32 if I can due to it's 4Gb file limit.
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The default for my Synology DS415play is ext4 so I was wondering if the BDP's can access drives formatted in ext4 without issue or should I look at formatting in something else, perhaps NTFS? I want to avoid Fat32 if I can due to it's 4Gb file limit.
I believe the BDP with latest firmware/OS is ext4 compatible, so this might only be a concern if you were directly connecting an ext4 drive to the BDP and also needed to rip to it from a non-Linux computer. But because you are accessing it through a NAS, the NAS' Linux OS is compatible with ext4 and becomes the intermediary between your computer or BDP device, regardless of the OS, and the drive.
The only incompatibility might be if you needed to access the drive removed from the NAS and directly connected to your Windows or Mac computer. These OS aren't natively compatible, but can access ext4 drives with third party drivers/software. Of course if the drive is in a RAID configuration, that might be a moot point anyway.
Steve
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Excellent, thanks
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Hi James. Any usb dual external hard drive with the other one serving as backup that you can recommend? I got the most scary experience last night with my BDP-1. The albums would not load right. I got like 25% of the albums to show up. i thought the file was corrupted. i repeated turning it on and off last night the BDP-1, hoping it will run right ? i also had to go to the settings update and load it many times. After cycling the
BDP-1 around 15-25 times, my BDP1 is now back at work.
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Hi James. Any usb dual external hard drive with the other one serving as backup that you can recommend? I got the most scary experience last night with my BDP-1. The albums would not load right. I got like 25% of the albums to show up. i thought the file was corrupted. i repeated turning it on and off last night the BDP-1, hoping it will run right ? i also had to go to the settings update and load it many times. After cycling the
BDP-1 around 15-25 times, my BDP1 is now back at work.
Hi
I use my desktop computer as a backup and I have a 2 TB USB drive at work as a further backup
James
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Hi fellas!
What does Error 09 mean? I haven't listened to my BDP-1 for a while but when I turned it on today, it boots up but all it displays is the Error 09 and I can't do anyhing but power it off. I tried unplugging it but it didn't help and it always shows the same Error 09...
What shall I do?
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Oh my...
Would this have to do with the fact I had the BDA-2 connected to it with both the USB cable and an AES cable?
I got the AES cable and was to do some comparisons. Is it possible this causes the Error 09?
Antun
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Antun, this is how Chris described Error 09 in December of 2013 - post 45 of this thread: http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=114816.0
"Hi Guys,
The error 09 means that the microprocessor that turns the power supply on/off and controls the buttons/display on the front of the unit hasn't received any communication from the mainboard within two minutes of power being applied. If you get error 09 you should turn the unit off, then back on and pay attention to your DAC. If your DAC is receiving signal from the BDP before the error 09 message appears then its likely a loose cable inside your system. The serial cable in a BDP-1 is a ten pin grey ribbon cable to runs from the front of the unit to the mainboard, just behind the RS232 port on the rear. A BDP-2 uses a cable made of five individual wires (red, blue, green, black and brown; please keep in mind I'm colour blind so I may have those colours wrong), we have had one occasion that i can recall where one of the wires had broken from the connector.
If the DAC isn't receiving lock/signal then either the BDP is trying to boot from another source (another drive), doesn't have enough power to POST or the BDP's internal CF card (Kingston or Apacer) is no longer functioning. To determine which is the case, whether it be the drives/power or the cf card, unplug all the drives from the BDP and try powering it on. If the error continues you will need to either follow the instructions list below, or if your unable to do so we can make arrangements for repair.
BDP Reimage CF Card on Mac OS X(PDF)
BDP Reimage CF Card on Windows (PDF)
Cheers,
Chris"
Hope this helps, Antun.
Rich
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Okay, I discovered what is wrong.
The machine never passes the "Initializing..." point. After a while it displays "Error 09". I trued restarting the machine 5 times and in each case the same happened - "Error 09".
I then unplugged the machine and plugged it back in. I started it up and the same thing happened again. I restarted it 5 times and still, it did not pass the "Initializing..." point.
During each of these incidents, the USB thumbdrive was plugged into one of the BDP-1's front USB ports. I switched the USB thumbdrive between the left and right port but it didn't help.
I then disconnected the USB thumbdrive and started the machine and it did actually pass the "Initializing..." point and displayed "Installing MPD" and eventually booted properly!
Just to be sure, I restarted the BDP-1 a few more times with no USB thumdrive and each time it booted properly.
Then I thought there must be something wrong with that particular USB thumbdrive as I bought it today. It is made by Intenso. So I plugged that thumbdrive back in and started the machine and the same "Error 09" appeared again. I dosconnected the thumbdrive and started the machine with no thumbdrives attached and it booted properly.
To be certain, I took out a few other USB thumbdrives, including the one provided by Bryston, and with each of these USB thumbdrives, the machine booted properly!
What's more, once the BDP-1 booted properly, I connected that Intenso thumbdrive, it too played properly. The machine just would not boot up with that Intenso thumbdrive already plugged into the machine.
Is this strange? Can anyone explain this please? Chris perhaps?
Antun
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Okay, I discovered what is wrong.
The machine never passes the "Initializing..." point. After a while it displays "Error 09". I trued restarting the machine 5 times and in each case the same happened - "Error 05".
I then unplugged the machine and plugged it back in. I started it up and the same thing happened again. I restarted it 5 times and still, it did not pass the "Initializing..." point.
During each of these incidents, the USB thumbdrive was plugged into one of the BDP-1's front USB ports. I switched the USB thumbdrive between the left and right port but it didn't help.
I then disconnected the USB thumbdrive and started the machine and it did actually pass the "Initializing..." point and displayed "Installing MPD" and eventually booted properly!
Just to be sure, I restarted the BDP-1 a few more times with no USB thumdrive and each time it booted properly.
Then I thought there must be something wrong with that particular USB thumbdrive as I bought it today. It is made by Intenso. So I plugged that thumbdrive back in and started the machine and the same "Error 09" appeared again. I dosconnected the thumbdrive and started the machine with no thumbdrives attached and it booted properly.
To be certain, I took out a few other USB thumbdrives, including the one provided by Bryston, and with each of these USB thumbdrives, the machine booted properly!
What's more, once the BDP-1 booted properly, I connected that Intenso thumbdrive, it too played properly. The machine just would not boot up with that Intenso thumbdrive already plugged into the machine.
Is this strange? Can anyone explain this please? Chris perhaps?
Antun
That is weird - can you send me a link and we will try to buy a unit to test.
james
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That is weird - can you send me a link and we will try to buy a unit to test.
james
Hi James!
I can do that, if I can find it online. I can put the drive in an envelope and send it across by post. You'd be getting "the" thumbdrive that way, not just "a" thumbdrive.
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Hi James!
I can do that, if I can find it online. I can put the drive in an envelope and send it across by post. You'd be getting "the" thumbdrive that way, not just "a" thumbdrive.
OK if you do not mind send it to me.
james
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OK if you do not mind send it to me.
james
Of course I don't mind! I'll send you a chocolate along with it.
Please send me the address by PM.
Cheers!
Antun
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Of course I don't mind! I'll send you a chocolate along with it.
Please send me the address by PM.
Cheers!
Antun
Just send to the Bryston factory to my attention please.
james
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Just send to the Bryston factory to my attention please.
james
Very well, it will be in the post early next week.
Thank you!
Best wishes,
Antun
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It might be the way the USB drive is formatted.
When a computer boots up, it looks for drives that might have an operating system on them. If the drive was formatted in a way that's causing the BIOS some confusion, it could get hung up.
I'd copy all the files from a questionable USB drive to your computer, then use a utility to format the USB drive. Start with FAT32 as the format (it'll support up to a 4GB file size and a 2TB drive). I prefer Rufus USB formatting utility for windows (it's free too!). Then plug the drive in with the BPD-1/BDP-2 off and boot it up to see if it works.
If that works, you can try other formats to be adventurous. If you don't get any errors, copy your files over and you should be good.
- Garrett
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Glad you got it working, Antun. I hope you're enjoying your BDP-1 and BDA-2.
I've been listening to the HDTracks 96/24 files of Karajan's 1963 Beethoven symphonies. The clarity and definition of instruments and orchestral sections pull one into the music. I must have a dozen or more versions of these works, but this presentation through the BDP/BDA is extremely engaging.
Best fishes,
Rich
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Hi fellas!
I tried it a few more times this morning and the same thing happened. It does not matter which USB port of the BDP-1 is used, front or back, it hangs on "Initializing..." and then displays the "Error 09". But only if that Intenso flash drive is plugged in. It boots properly and quickly with every other flash drive that I have so it has to be this particular flash drive that is causing the problem.
I will have it sent to James for an inspection.
Rich, that very Intenso flash drive is the one I used to listen to the music you've sent me. I haven't even had the time to listen to any of it and intended to do so this weekend. The 1963 Karajan's interpretation of Beethoven's glorious 5th symphony is the best I have heard. Without a doubt, a spectacular recording of such a passionate and dramatic performance. It left a profound impression on me. The clarity added by the high-res sampling is immediate and striking. In some ways, this recording somehow sounds more real and tactile than the amazing recording of the Stravinsky's The rite of Spring you sent me. The BDA-2 is a high-performance D/A converter no doubt but the BDP-1 did something to the sound that I like very much. It added immediacy, composure and texture to every aspect of the performance as if it brought me closer to the musical happening. It is an amazing machine.
Geez, I haven't even thanked you for the music you sent me... I'm terrible.
Hope you're doing well!
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Hi folks,
Just a quick question here.
My DSL modem and router both are located in the kitchen and I am in progress to move them in one of my bedrooms which will be the permanent location. Right now I am running a very long ETHERNET cable from BDP-1 to router and I was wondering if there is a way to eliminate this cable and connect the BDP-1 to router wireless.
Thanks :thumb:
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Hi folks,
Just a quick question here.
My DSL modem and router both are located in the kitchen and I am in progress to move them in one of my bedrooms which will be the permanent location. Right now I am running a very long ETHERNET cable from BDP-1 to router and I was wondering if there is a way to eliminate this cable and connect the BDP-1 to router wireless.
Thanks :thumb:
You could use a wireless bridge or a powerline av kit.
Cheers
Chris
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You could use a wireless bridge or a powerline av kit.
Cheers
Chris
Thanks Chris,
I am searching for this right now. Do you have any recommended brand? and can I update the firmware the same way or I have to move the BDP-1 and connect it with cable again?
Thanks,
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The BDP won't know it's wireless, so you should be able to update it just fine.
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I'm using an AsusRT-N66U as the router. I have my BDP-2 wired to that router. I purchased a AsusEA-N66 extender which I placed near my BDP-1. I ran a short Ethernet wire
from the Asus extender to the BDP-1 and it works great. The only complaint I have with the Asus extender is it only has one Ethernet port. You could always get an adapter if you need more devices wired.
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The reason it only has one port is because the adapter gets issued an IP address, like a wireless cell phone or tablet. Since only one device can use an IP address, it'd be impossible to have multiple devices on the other end of an adapter.
If you want to accomplish that, you'd have to use a second router, instead of an adapter, and create a sub network.
- Garrett
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Thanks everybody.
I was coming home today from work and stopped by home depot and got this Linksys PLEK400 powerline AV1 and it works great.
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Hi,
I own a Bryston BDP-2 with firmware 1.74 that is connected to an APL DSD-S (http://aplhifi.com/products/dsd-s). This DAC has a USB interface that should be USB 2.0 compliant. As I understand it should then be possible to connect BDP-2 to the DAC with a USB cable running from one of BDP-2's USB ports into the USB port on DSD-S. But when I try that I get no sound. Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
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Have you chosen the DSD Dac under Audio Devices on the main page of Manic Moose software?
james
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Even if I have firmware 1.74 it seems like it's build Loony Loon and not Manic Moose. At least it doesn't seem to be a choice for audio devices when I go into settings. I'll update the firmware later tonight, then I guess there will be a choice for selecting the DAC under audio devices.
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Even if I have firmware 1.74 it seems like it's build Loony Loon and not Manic Moose. At least it doesn't seem to be a choice for audio devices when I go into settings. I'll update the firmware later tonight, then I guess there will be a choice for selecting the DAC under audio devices.
Yes you need to use MM.
James
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I just finished reading all of the BDP-2 relevant pages. Whew! I think I understand most aspects of the BDP-2s operation. The one question that I need to resolve concerns the optional internal disk drive.
I presently have a Synology NAS which contains all of my music. I stream the music via Ethernet to a renderer which sends the music to a DAC. If the BDP-2 were to replace my renderer, what benefits would I see if I installed a 512 GB SSD versus a BDP-2 without any internal SSD installed?
Thanks
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Yes you need to use MM.
James
OK, now I got it to work. I think it sounds noticeably better through USB than through AES that I have used up to now. But then I also think DSD-S has a very high quality USB interface as pointed out by it's designer Alex Peychev.
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If the BDP-2 were to replace my renderer, what benefits would I see if I installed a 512 GB SSD versus a BDP-2 without any internal SSD installed?
The only benefit is the BDP-2 would then be entirely self-contained with no external drives attached to it.
The only downside is an SSD is more expensive than an external USB drive. And the minimal inconvenience of opening the unit to install the SSD.
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The only benefit is the BDP-2 would then be entirely self-contained with no external drives attached to it.
The only downside is an SSD is more expensive than an external USB drive. And the minimal inconvenience of opening the unit to install the SSD.
Thanks Wapiti. I would continue to use my NAS. I was thinking that the SSD would serve as a cache (or prefetch) and that perhaps there would be some sonic or efficiency benefit.
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Hi James,
I posted on the Bryston support page. My BDP-2 said it crashed. Everything runs fine. I unplugged the unit and it still says my BDP-2 crashed. How do I get rid of the notice?
Cheers,
BJ
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Hi James,
I posted on the Bryston support page. My BDP-2 said it crashed. Everything runs fine. I unplugged the unit and it still says my BDP-2 crashed. How do I get rid of the notice?
Cheers,
BJ
I think it is just a bug that Chris is fixing in the next release.
james
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I think it is just a bug that Chris is fixing in the next release.
james
Likely the artist view started building and he unit was turned off before it finnished, simply resume building it by going to the artist view.
Cheers
Chris
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Hi, All... I am a happy owner of a BDP-1, and (after I upgrade firmware to Manic Moose) I want to migrate my album storage for BDP-1 playback to an external USB SSD drive. I currently use powerline networking adapters to play back music from a NAS drive located with my router in another room. That setup is convenient and quiet, but it only reliably supports playback of files up to 16/44.1 FLAC. I expect the external USB drive to support 24/192 FLAC playback reliably.
SO, MY QUESTION IS... what would you recommend for an external USB drive using SSD storage for storing my album collection? The closer to 1.0 TB the better. Anything to watch out for?
Thanks!
Ren
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Not a chance to have wired network connection to your NAS? Will be much cheaper, I guess...
I run wired CAT 5 network cable and play 24/192 without any issues.
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Not a chance to have wired network connection to your NAS? Will be much cheaper, I guess...
I run wired CAT 5 network cable and play 24/192 without any issues.
Unfortunately, no. My router and NAS are in the bedroom closet on the second floor. My listening room (where the BDP-1 is located) is in the basement.
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SSD arn't perfect, they are filled with billions of transistors that will create electrical noise, whether or not you can hear this is up to you. Although while not in use they are more efficient, but when all those transistors fired up, a ssd generally uses more power then some of the more energy efficient hard drives like a WD. A WD 2.5" drive will typically use 350mA consistently, where SSD's typical use 700mA to 1600mA while in use.
Hard Drives have there own disadvantages aswell, typically this is audible noise, although personally this doesn't bother me as I need to hold my ear up to the drive to.... Well hear it.
As far as reliability, niether is really any better then the other. A hard drives magnets are typically the first to go and a ssd, generally the memory controller dies.
Finally you are left with price, hard drives are still all lot less expensive then SSD's, for some people that maybe a non issue.
Personally if your considering dropping $500 for a 1TB solid state drives, perhaps you should see about just having an electrician run a network cable in the wall, It could be the same amount of money and you keep the benefits of using the NAS.
Something to consider
Cheers
Chris
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Unfortunately, no. My router and NAS are in the bedroom closet on the second floor. My listening room (where the BDP-1 is located) is in the basement.
I drilled a small hole in a heating duct (I live in a very old house) and was able to run a network cable to the basement very easily.
Definitely worth the hassle, I'd recommend using at least a CAT6 cable.
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Hi folks!
I'm running into a bit of a problem with my BDP-1 (MM, S2.04). Sometimes it has a "hiccup" in the form of a short interruption in playback. This happens only with 192kHz music, never with 96kHz or any of the lower sampling rates. The interruptions are sporadic at best, sometimes only once or twice during an entire album but sometimes once or twice during each track.
They are usually closer to the beginning of the track I think and unlike with a skipping CD, they don't appear to happen at the same point in time.
I'm using a Sony 32GB flash drive.
Is it possible that the bitrate of these files is too high for BDP-1 to handle?
Does anyone have an idea what could cause this?
Cheers!
Antun
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I'm still amazed how files on a NAS (say on the third floor) can sound the same travelling via CAT5/6 cable all the way down to the basement vs. the same files on an SSD installed in the BDP-2. :scratch:
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I'm still amazed how files on a NAS (say on the third floor) can sound the same travelling via CAT5/6 cable all the way down to the basement vs. the same files on an SSD installed in the BDP-2. :scratch:
The music file is buffered in the BDP.
Tony
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Hi folks!
I'm running into a bit of a problem with my BDP-1 (MM, S2.04). Sometimes it has a "hiccup" in the form of a short interruption in playback. This happens only with 192kHz music, never with 96kHz or any of the lower sampling rates. The interruptions are sporadic at best, sometimes only once or twice during an entire album but sometimes once or twice during each track.
They are usually closer to the beginning of the track I think and unlike with a skipping CD, they don't appear to happen at the same point in time.
I'm using a Sony 32GB flash drive.
Is it possible that the bitrate of these files is too high for BDP-1 to handle?
Does anyone have an idea what could cause this?
Cheers!
Antun
A BDP-1 should handle 192khz just fine, you should try upgrading the firmware. That firmware will require the BDP placed into service mode to be updated by us. Service mode is covered on page 24 or 26 in the manic moose manual.
Cheers
Chris
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I'm still amazed how files on a NAS (say on the third floor) can sound the same travelling via CAT5/6 cable all the way down to the basement vs. the same files on an SSD installed in the BDP-2. :scratch:
What tony said
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Hi Chris,
I have BDP1 running SW S1.75 Loony loose release. Whats the latest release of SW for BDP1?
PS: I just found the dropbox web site that guides you on how to update the BDP1/2 players to the latest "Manic Moose" release. So my question to you is that is there anyway to backup my playlist and configuration and restore it back on to newly release S/W? If not will this (backup) feature be implemented on the Manic Moose release?
Regards
Chetan
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A BDP-1 should handle 192khz just fine, you should try upgrading the firmware. That firmware will require the BDP placed into service mode to be updated by us. Service mode is covered on page 24 or 26 in the manic moose manual.
Cheers
Chris
Hi Chris!
Okay, so I should place the BDP-1 in service mode and you'll do the rest? If so, please let me know when I should do that and if I'm allowed to use it while it is in service mode.
Cheers!
Antun
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What tony said
Thanks guys.
NAS still the way to go...in terms of overall flexibility and access.
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Seeing as the BCD-2 is not on the Bryston agenda for 2015 :(, I might as well start ripping my CD collection to FLAC. I will be using dBpoweramp, how do you handle file structure and cd albums with 2 or more discs.
One album folder name or 2 separate ones, folder or cover jpg?
Thanks
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That kinda depends on you want to see the files. My preference is for all songs to be in one folder, even if there are multiple discs. It'll really come down to how you have dBpoweramp name the files (and create folder) when you rip them. I love dBPoweramp's quality (its what I use), but the macro function to create file names is less than user friendly.
I cut the default macro, put it in a text editor, and then formatted it so I could readily see/understand it. Then, I'd copy it to a second text file, delete all the unnecessary spaces, then copy that back into dBpoweramp. Took some doing, but once it's done, you don't need to redo it.
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Hello everyone and Seasons Greetings
I need help as I am thoroughly confused. I need something to get music files stored on my NAS into my DAC. I have read many forum posts on this site and others and have narrowed down the choices but need help in finalising one of these.
I am currently using a laptop with Win server 2012, Audiophile Optimiser and JRiver, USB out into my DAC. Files are on a Synology NAS. Flac and Wave.
I wanted to get something better than my noisy laptop.
The price of each of these options are given below. Hope that helps you all in suggesting something.
Bryston BDP -1 - $1700
Aires - $2000
Zuma with linear PS - $2300 (APPX)
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I heard the NAD M50, Auralic Aris and Bryston BDP-1 recently.
Music was on a usb stick. NAD M50 via coax, Bryston via AES and Auralic via USB cable into the same dac (Auralic Vega). All other equipment was the same.
My observations as follows:
NAD M50: At first I liked the sound. Fairly detailed but I soon realised it was infact harsh. The top end was extended but it was almost grating with some recordings. I liked the air around the instruments but ultimately too rough and sibilant.
Bryston BDP-1: I really liked this. Excellent bottom end. In control top end. No Sibilance. Real authority to the music. Slightly warm sounding. Less air around the instruments than the NAD. IMHO clearly better than the NAD M50.
Auralic Aries: Nice top end. More detail compared to the Bryston but not brittle like the NAD. However lacked the bottom end of the bryston. Somehow music sounded a little flat compared to the Bryston.
Therefore for me the NAD is out. I liked the Bryston and also the aries even though they sound quite different. I wish the Bryston had a slightly more extended top end.
I still need to try and work out how the Auralic Aries sounds compared to a CAPS with Win server and AO. Any comments in this regard is appreciated.
Also does the firmware in the BDP-1 change the sound in anyway?
The BDP-1 I heard was running the original 0.XX firmware so not sure if newer firmwares have made any changes.
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Would anyone care to comment on the sound quality differences between the BDP-1 USB and Auraliti PK90USB?
I have been contented with my PK90 for the last couple of years. I recently tried the Auralic Aries as a possible upgrade but it doesn't seem to be compatible with my DAC. Since the PK90 works, I assume the BDP-1 USB would also be compatible, given Auraliti's involvement in it's creation. I understand the Bryston does internet radio, which the PK90 does not. Plus it does DSD. However I would only be interested in trading up if the sound quality is at least a little better.
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Re: the last 2 posters. I think you will find this thread is generally frequented by folks who own the Bryston units, and are trying to get the best performance from their equipment. I doubt you'll get much feedback regarding comparisons with other devices. I'd be happy if someone proves me wrong. Cheers, and Happy New Year.
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BrystonFan, on the naming conventions for files, I would agree with Garrett. It's a shift of mindset from spinning discs, but on my BDP-2, there's no need to separate files into disc 1, disc 2, unless such separation conveys significant information to you (for example, your favorite selection is track 2 of disc 2). Of course, you have the title of the selection, but with classical works this can sometimes be repetitive or obtuse. For BDP owners, the Bryston web app, Manic Moose, does a good job of displaying album information.
Happy listening,
Rich
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Re: the last 2 posters. I think you will find this thread is generally frequented by folks who own the Bryston units, and are trying to get the best performance from their equipment. I doubt you'll get much feedback regarding comparisons with other devices. I'd be happy if someone proves me wrong. Cheers, and Happy New Year.
I understand but wanted to add my observations of the differences between the digital transports.
My main question for the members of this forum is if the newer firmware changes the sound of the
bryston players in anyway.
I know for a fact there are changes to the sounds of the players like the Auralic aries with different firmware.
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I own BDP-1 for some time now and did now witnessed any change in sound with firmware upgrades and with different versions of mpd
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Is Tidal integration in the works?
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Is Tidal integration in the works?
Yes it is but Chris can tell you more.
james
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@ Black Orange & Ultrarunner
NAD M50 would have greater processing capability than Bryston BDP-1 due to it's powerful ARM processors compared to AMD Geode in the Bryston. It also has an integrated CD drive and host of other user-interface features. However, Bryston proved to be a more refined-sounding player. This is impossible to discriminate in a direct A-B comparison but those never really proved useful in my experience. Bryston brings out more musical involvement, not necessarily more detail or dynamics. It builds on the strengths of your existing DAC. The NAD, on the other hand, didn't strike me as such. Bryston sounded if as though it "went with the flow" intead of hand-waving "I am here!". NAD seems to draw more attention on itself with a bit of a luminance which others may percieve as greater detail resolution. Not at all I believe because not one instrument sounded more real to me because of this. It was more an impression of detail than anything else. The lack of this made Bryston a little bit smoother and effortless -sounding but regardless of this, I still believe Bryston left a greater emotional impact on me. A hair more smoothness in Emma Johnson's clariner or a thouch more roundness in the electrifying intro of John Petrucci's guitar... This is why Bryston (once again) prevailed. The guarantee and customer support were the extra few points on the Bryston's side.
In the technical sense, both NAD and Bryston are indistingushable one from another. Stereophile measurements suggest this and in fact, NAD should have a slightly quieter jitter-induced distortion but at well under -125dB, I can imagine this would be impossible to hear.
I hope this helps!
Cheers!
Antun
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Thanks for the feedback Antun. I have a pretty revealing system so I would likely hear the things you describe. The BDP-1/2 seem to get good reviews so it seems a safe bet, although taking one home and trying it will be the real test.
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@ Black Orange & Ultrarunner
NAD M50 would have greater processing capability than Bryston BDP-1 due to it's powerful ARM processors compared to AMD Geode in the Bryston. It also has an integrated CD drive and host of other user-interface features. However, Bryston proved to be a more refined-sounding player. This is impossible to discriminate in a direct A-B comparison but those never really proved useful in my experience. Bryston brings out more musical involvement, not necessarily more detail or dynamics. It builds on the strengths of your existing DAC. The NAD, on the other hand, didn't strike me as such. Bryston sounded if as though it "went with the flow" intead of hand-waving "I am here!". NAD seems to draw more attention on itself with a bit of a luminance which others may percieve as greater detail resolution. Not at all I believe because not one instrument sounded more real to me because of this. It was more an impression of detail than anything else. The lack of this made Bryston a little bit smoother and effortless -sounding but regardless of this, I still believe Bryston left a greater emotional impact on me. A hair more smoothness in Emma Johnson's clariner or a thouch more roundness in the electrifying intro of John Petrucci's guitar... This is why Bryston (once again) prevailed. The guarantee and customer support were the extra few points on the Bryston's side.
In the technical sense, both NAD and Bryston are indistingushable one from another. Stereophile measurements suggest this and in fact, NAD should have a slightly quieter jitter-induced distortion but at well under -125dB, I can imagine this would be impossible to hear.
I hope this helps!
Cheers!
Antun
Thanks Antun
I too felt that with the bryston I connected with the music better.
I am still deciding between Aries and the Bryston as I prefered the Bryston but the Aries was more extended and had more detail but just did not have that emotional impact. The bryston was brand new and not run in and also the firmware on the bryston was the outdated. Not sure if the bryston will be able to match it with newer firmware and if it is run in a bit.
regards
K
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Also very keen to find out if the BDP-1 can run Tidal.
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BrystonFan, on the naming conventions for files, I would agree with Garrett. It's a shift of mindset from spinning discs, but on my BDP-2, there's no need to separate files into disc 1, disc 2, unless such separation conveys significant information to you (for example, your favorite selection is track 2 of disc 2). Of course, you have the title of the selection, but with classical works this can sometimes be repetitive or obtuse. For BDP owners, the Bryston web app, Manic Moose, does a good job of displaying album information.
Happy listening,
Rich
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Thank you Gentlemen.
I tried ripping the latest U2 deluxe cd (2 discs) using the default dBpoweramp settings and it created 2 folders for each disc. I would like to have these in one folder for the album on the drive. I figured I would start with the Multi disc and compilation CDs in my ripping saga for future use in my BDP-2
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That's best... single CD's are comparatively easy.
The easiest solutions is to add "Disc 1" or "Disc 2" to the file name, but put them all in the same folder. This way, the files will display in order on the discs (since "Disc 1" alphabetically comes before "Disc 2"), but all in the same folder on the BDP-2. It should still display the correct metadata on the display though.
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A BDP-1 should handle 192khz just fine, you should try upgrading the firmware. That firmware will require the BDP placed into service mode to be updated by us. Service mode is covered on page 24 or 26 in the manic moose manual.
Cheers
Chris
Chris, check your PM. I read the manual and have sent you a message but got no reply from you.
Cheers!
Antun
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Hi,
I see mention in the firmware updates of a CD backup App. Is this available on the BDP-? If so, how does it functiuon.
Thank you,
David
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I am debating what hardware to buy as a digital music player / DAC. I was originally considering the Sony HAP-Z1ES, am intrigued by the new Cocktail Audio X40 as a combined solution, but my audio advisor recommends the Bryston BDP-1USB, coupled to the Bryston BDA-3 DAC when it comes out this spring.
I mostly play lossless ripped and hi-rez FLAC files (as well as some downloaded DSDs) stored on my Windows 8 PC hard drive using J River software, connected to my Oppo BDP-105 as a USB DAC, into a Bryston B135 Integrated Amp driving B&W CM-10 speakers. I also have several dozen SACDs I play using my Oppo.
I would appreciate feedback on some questions related to the Bryston solution as I ponder my decision:
1) What control software/web page would I be using on my Windows 8 Surface Pro 3 to play music on the BDP-1USB in place of the J River software? What would be the user experience relative to J River type functionality?
2) What type of USB hard drives are recommended to connect to the BDP1-USB? Separately powered? What about SSDs?
3) What file structure works best to organize my collection on the hard drive I would connect to the BDP1-USB, i.e. Artist/Album/Songs or other? Include a PDF with album art in each file folder? I have about 1800 discs/albums worth of digital material.
4) It looks like I would be able to play my SACDs using the Oppo as a transport and the BDA-3 as a DAC when it is available, correct?
5) One attraction of the Cocktail X40 is using it's HDMI out to my TV as a control display in lieu of networked software, but it would reason that the Bryston solution will be more flexible in the long run and should be sonically superior (at about twice the price). It is hard to estimate what the difference in listening experience would be between the two.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
PS: I thought I solved all this four years ago when I bought an Olive 6HD. Long sad story...
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Hi
1. You can use own Bryston control web client by entering IP address of the player in a browser. Or use an app from the store, like Chimney (http://www.windowsphone.com/sv-se/store/app/chimney/dba1be69-7eb5-403e-bbb0-f3a93c4dff7a)
2. I use separate NAS, found it most convenient
3. I use Genre\Artist\[year] Album, I am used with this structure from old days
5. Phone is much more convenient than TV
Best!
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Hi
1. You can use own Bryston control web client by entering IP address of the player in a browser. Or use an app from the store, like Chimney (http://www.windowsphone.com/sv-se/store/app/chimney/dba1be69-7eb5-403e-bbb0-f3a93c4dff7a)
2. I use separate NAS, found it most convenient
3. I use Genre\Artist\[year] Album, I am used with this structure from old days
5. Phone is much more convenient than TV
Best!
Thanks, ttsto!
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Hi,
When the BDP-2 has an installed internal harddrive inside of it, how does it exposes it to the outside world ?
Does it exposes it as a share on the ethernet network ?
SMB ? (Windows compatible network share)
Can we define users with read/write permission and users with only read permission ?
Can it be use as a small NAS ? (dedicated to music file)
Thanks!
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Can the BDP-2 output DSD over the USB?
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Can the BDP-2 output DSD over the USB?
Yes with the new MM software.
James
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Yes with the new MM software.
James
Hi James!
is Chris still around? I have sent him a message and didn't get a reply. I am experiencing some glitches with my BDP-1 when playing 24/192 FLAC. Perhaps he's on a vacation, God knows he deserves one, in which case I don't want to bother him.
Best wishes!
Antun
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Hi James!
is Chris still around? I have sent him a message and didn't get a reply. I am experiencing some glitches with my BDP-1 when playing 24/192 FLAC. Perhaps he's on a vacation, God knows he deserves one, in which case I don't want to bother him.
Best wishes!
Antun
Hi Antun
Yes he is around during the week.
james
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Hi Antun
Yes he is around during the week.
james
Okay thanks! I will give him a shout tomorrow.
Cheers!
Antun
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Okay thanks! I will give him a shout tomorrow.
Cheers!
Antun
Hi Antun,
I havn't recieved any messages from you since September of last year.... Or if that's it my apologies for missing it.
Cheers
Chris
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Hi Antun,
I havn't recieved any messages from you since September of last year.... Or if that's it my apologies for missing it.
Cheers
Chris
Hi Chris!
Curious but never mind!
If you remember, I am experiencing some glitches (interruptions) with my BDP-1 on 24/192 files. It works perfectly with everything else - 24/96 or below. You then said I should upgrade the system firmware. It is currently running MM, S2.04. I have read the instructions in the MM manual and nned you to tell me when to place the machine in it's service mode so that you can perform the upgrade remotely.
Best wishes,
Antun
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Hi Antun,
Just place it in service mode email me the servce id
crice[at]bryston[dot]com
Cheers
Chris
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Hi Antun,
Just place it in service mode email me the servce id
crice[at]bryston[dot]com
Cheers
Chris
Hi Chris!
Email sent! Please let me know if there is something I must do on my end. The BDP-1 is working even while in Service Mode so I assume it is safe to use it.
Cheers!
Antun
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Hi;
I have a question not so much for the BDP's themselves but the software people use to rip their CD's in order to play them via the BDP's.
So I think I'm going to purchase dbpoweramp this weekend to start the process of ripping my CD's which by default appears to come with both the CD ripper software as well as the music converter software. My question is do I or should I also buy the PerfectTUNES that's also offered on the website? I haven't seen people mention this so I'm not sure if it brings anything to the table for the BDP usage and/or the file playback software i.e. MPOD, Bryston-MAX etc.
Thanks
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Ooof. No idea. I love dbPoweramp, you're getting a great product.
I highly recommend you make some hard choices first though. Decide for certain what folder and file name format you want to go with. Do you want albums with disc to all be in the same folder, but include "disc 1" in the file name? Do you want to have the folder structure show which disc you have? Do you want to use the default album art, or do through and use Album Art Exchange or something else to manually select album art? Do you want all of your album art the same size (1000x1000, 600x600, etc).
None of these will affect quality, just how you use/interface with the rips.
I'd suggest you get two cd's with one artist and one disc, two cds with multiple artists and one disc, a soundtrack, and a classical disc. Rip those and see how the file names and structures work. Then, if you make any changes, you don't have to redo your whole library!
I didn't do that, and when i got about 100 discs into it, I decided I wanted to catalog stuff in a different manner. It was easier to re-rip everything than to manually rename it. So, plan ahead, then start your ripping.
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Thanks for the info. :thumb: Dang! That's a lot of stuff to consider.
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Or you could call Chris Rice to help you with dbpoweramp end of story(ONE THING) :thumb:.
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Who is Chris Rice?
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Hi all,
I'd like to know how is the internal harddrive in the BDP-2 is access thru the network ?
How can we load it with music files ?
Is it a standard "Windows Share" or do we need to FTP into it or another method ?
(Sorry for the double post, I've posted a similar question here about a week ago but didn't received any answers... If I'm on the wrong forum, please correct me.)
Thank you for your time!
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Ooof. No idea. I love dbPoweramp, you're getting a great product.
I highly recommend you make some hard choices first though. Decide for certain what folder and file name format you want to go with. Do you want albums with disc to all be in the same folder, but include "disc 1" in the file name? Do you want to have the folder structure show which disc you have? Do you want to use the default album art, or do through and use Album Art Exchange or something else to manually select album art? Do you want all of your album art the same size (1000x1000, 600x600, etc).
None of these will affect quality, just how you use/interface with the rips.
I'd suggest you get two cd's with one artist and one disc, two cds with multiple artists and one disc, a soundtrack, and a classical disc. Rip those and see how the file names and structures work. Then, if you make any changes, you don't have to redo your whole library!
I didn't do that, and when i got about 100 discs into it, I decided I wanted to catalog stuff in a different manner. It was easier to re-rip everything than to manually rename it. So, plan ahead, then start your ripping.
So I purchased the software over the weekend. Unfortuately I don't yet have an application to view the stuff in so I'm not able to tell how fussy I'm going to be about things like different sized album art like you mentioned because I could see as I was ripping some the album art file sizes differed ranging from like 300x300 up to 1000x1000. I do like that you could add multiple images like back covers etc. and take an image directly from the scanner by the looks of it. I didn't experiment with this yet though. Do you know if you can add additional images or change your default choice once the album has been ripped? I don't even know what application would be used for that.
I ripped a number of albums with minimal Flac compression i.e. the 0 setting and some with the highest i.e. 8. I'll probably do some in the uncompressed option as well. Does any of this have an impact on the end result i.e. audio qualty or is it literally just how small or large you want your files to be since in the end all of the options are lossless.
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On paper the BDP will simple work harder to decompress the pcm. If you intend on using the web interface, the BDP will make a copy of the existing cover are and resize it to 250x250 and smaller for the various views and will only use the original in the center of the default view. This will be proportional to your viewing area, although 300x300 could be a tad pixely as the default filler Bryston image is 466x466.
Cheers
Chris
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Hi all,
I'd like to know how is the internal harddrive in the BDP-2 is access thru the network ?
How can we load it with music files ?
Is it a standard "Windows Share" or do we need to FTP into it or another method ?
(Sorry for the double post, I've posted a similar question here about a week ago but didn't received any answers... If I'm on the wrong forum, please correct me.)
Thank you for your time!
The web interface portion is a little dated as it's loony loon rather then manic moose
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQjn2HSd6b8
Cheers
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@unincognito
Thanks for the link.
Most informative.
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So I purchased the software over the weekend. Unfortuately I don't yet have an application to view the stuff in so I'm not able to tell how fussy I'm going to be about things like different sized album art like you mentioned because I could see as I was ripping some the album art file sizes differed ranging from like 300x300 up to 1000x1000. I do like that you could add multiple images like back covers etc. and take an image directly from the scanner by the looks of it. I didn't experiment with this yet though. Do you know if you can add additional images or change your default choice once the album has been ripped? I don't even know what application would be used for that.
I ripped a number of albums with minimal Flac compression i.e. the 0 setting and some with the highest i.e. 8. I'll probably do some in the uncompressed option as well. Does any of this have an impact on the end result i.e. audio qualty or is it literally just how small or large you want your files to be since in the end all of the options are lossless.
WAV vs FLAC or other lossless compression sound quality has been debated in the past. I remember some series of articles in one publication where the author tested WAV vs FLAC vs FLAC converted back to WAV. For me, I can't tell any difference. I use FLAC and the default compression size that dbPoweramp sets.
I can't speak for Mac. If you're using windows, you can examine the folder/file structure just as you would any other computer data files, using the Windows Explorer. For all my album artwork, I download from www.AlbumArtExchange.com. My preferred size right now is 1000x1000, but I have no technical basis for that choice. In addition to the image size, you'll notice the file size of the image can change dramatically. One 750x750 file may be 80KB, while another may be 1.2MB. That is due to compression. Much like mp3 files, image files can be compressed and made much smaller, but you will lose some detail. The more it's compressed, the more detail is lost. I'm more concerned with the image quality than the image size. After all, most software interfaces will resize the image anyway, just as Chris said the BDP interface does.
You can then go into Windows Explorer into a folder that contains all the FLAC files from one CD. Select all the files. Right click your mouse and select "Edit ID-Tag". From there, you can remove and add album art to all of the selected files. If you wanted to add or change the album art for just one file, just select only that file.
Once you decide how you want to store your collection, it becomes a pretty smooth process. I had to write down exactly what I did though. After I ripped my existing library, it was several months before I had more discs to rip. By that time, I didn't remember exactly what I had settled on. Fortunately for me, I kept notes and was able to get back to it with little stress and relearning.
- Garrett
The author of dbPoweramp ("Spoon") was pretty responsive to posts in the forum he runs for dbPoweramp too. If you run into a problem or have a question about the software, you can try there too. https://forum.dbpoweramp.com/forumdisplay.php?9-dBpoweramp
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Thanks for the info guys.
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Does Manic Moose, MPOD, MPAD, etc. have the ability to display and scroll through various pictures for a single album? For example if I scan all pages from a typical CD booklet, can all of that be viewed?
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Does Manic Moose, MPOD, MPAD, etc. have the ability to display and scroll through various pictures for a single album? For example if I scan all pages from a typical CD booklet, can all of that be viewed?
We have considered adding the feature, but it's very low in our list of priorities
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Thanks
This saves me a lot of time and effort then as I would have done this after I finish ripping all of my CD's. I'm about half way through now. Since 99.99% of my CD's are store bought I actually have all of the liner notes that I could scan in and add to the photo sets.
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A question re the 9B SST2. I have not been able to obtain an answer to this on the Bryston Technical Support page so I will try here:
Is it possible to change the face plate (in this case from silver to black) on a do-it-yourself basis given the presence of the on/off switch and the 5 LEDs?
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A question re the 9B SST2. I have not been able to obtain an answer to this on the Bryston Technical Support page so I will try here:
Is it possible to change the face plate (in this case from silver to black) on a do-it-yourself basis given the presence of the on/off switch and the 5 LEDs?
Hi
Its not easy so would recommend factory only.
james
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Thank you, James.
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I'm trying to update BDP-1 firmware without success. Any clue? Thank
Downloading firmware filesystem
0 100% @2716
Downloading boot drivers
0 100% @2645
Downloading vmlinuz image
0 100% @2606
Running Filesystem Check: 25ab5d749f904e236e4437fc34a548da /lib/live/mount/medium/live/filesystem.new
: Filsystem Check Failed: md5 values different
Should Be:
Calculated: 25ab5d74
You should try redownloading this version of the firmware and try again
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If I use my iPod touch to control the BDP-1 through the interface, will it do all the same functions as the Bryston remote will? If so, great, if not, what will both the Touch and Bryston remote be able to control?
the remote will power a bdp off and on, i generally only recommend getting the remote if you also have our dac and one of our preamps preamp/integrated amps.
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How long does it take to update a 500 Gb hard drive with 1100 mp3 and FLAC files (16 Gb)? I am using a BDP-1 and MM 2.05 firmware. It has been updating for hours now. Using LL firmware it took only a few minutes. Any comments?
Thanks
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How long does it take to update a 500 Gb hard drive with 1100 mp3 and FLAC files (16 Gb)? I am using a BDP-1 and MM 2.05 firmware. It has been updating for hours now. Using LL firmware it took only a few minutes. Any comments?
Thanks
Hi
Should only take about 5 minutes or so.
james
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I had this problem until I read in the manual that one should power off the BDP, Reboot it and when the two little vertical lines on the bottom of the display become a solid square insert the drive. Then the U should appear and the update will run as it should.
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I sent an email to support with my service ID hoping that someone would return to me to help upgrading firmware. Absolutly no response ... and also no response on my post from Feb 14th. Very disappointed with Bryston. Poor support.
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I sent an email to support with my service ID hoping that someone would return to me to help upgrading firmware. Absolutly no response ... and also no response on my post from Feb 14th. Very disappointed with Bryston. Poor support.
Have you checked to see if your firmware has been upgraded?
Tony
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I sent an email to support with my service ID hoping that someone would return to me to help upgrading firmware. Absolutly no response ... and also no response on my post from Feb 14th. Very disappointed with Bryston. Poor support.
Sorry, but I havn't seen a thing in my inbox
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I sent an email to support with my service ID hoping that someone would return to me to help upgrading firmware. Absolutly no response ... and also no response on my post from Feb 14th. Very disappointed with Bryston. Poor support.
James Tanner usually directs people to email Mike Picket @ Bryston directly. Mike's email is mpickett@bryston.com. I'd give that a try.
Bryston's customer service is usually some of the best in the business. I understand your frustration, but don't count them out just yet.
You can also try sending James a message via this forum. I see him logged in several times a day, and he's always been very prompt about answering messages.
- Garrett
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Is it correct that the BDP-1 will only support DSD 64? Also are there plans to support higher rate DSD through the BDP-1 with a future firmware update?
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Is it correct that the BDP-1 will only support DSD 64? Also are there plans to support higher rate DSD through the BDP-1 with a future firmware update?
My BDP 2 plays DSD 128 over USB. I don't know for a fact, but can't imagine the BDP 1 would be any different providing it's running recent firmware.
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More or less about Jitter:
Some say asynchronous USB transmission is better than AES or SPDIF for jitter rejection, as the clock relies on DAC exclusively. This raises some questions:
- connection between BDP1-USB and BDA-2 is asynchronous? So this means it would be the best way to have your digital files transmitted?
- you don't need BDP-2 for better quality, and the only reason for AES and SPDIF in BDP-2 is for compatibility with other non USB DAC's. If you have BDA-2 you don't need these interfaces and you are better with BDP-1USB in terms of quality
- why there is no BDP2-USB (with better power supply and huge library)? This would be the best player in a Bryston system with BDA-2...
- maybe a little out of topic, but then all the benefit which provides BUC-1 is lost when signal is transmitted SPDIF from BUC to other DAC?
James, please share some light on these aspects, thank you
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More or less about Jitter:
Some say asynchronous USB transmission is better than AES or SPDIF for jitter rejection, as the clock relies on DAC exclusively. This raises some questions:
- connection between BDP1-USB and BDA-2 is asynchronous? So this means it would be the best way to have your digital files transmitted?
- you don't need BDP-2 for better quality, and the only reason for AES and SPDIF in BDP-2 is for compatibility with other non USB DAC's. If you have BDA-2 you don't need these interfaces and you are better with BDP-1USB in terms of quality
- why there is no BDP2-USB (with better power supply and huge library)? This would be the best player in a Bryston system with BDA-2...
- maybe a little out of topic, but then all the benefit which provides BUC-1 is lost when signal is transmitted SPDIF from BUC to other DAC?
James, please share some light on these aspects, thank you
Hi
There is still a lot of discussion abut which interface yields the most accurate digital signal transfer so I use the BDP-2 as it allows me to experiment with all 3 types.
james
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Thank you James, got the idea, seems to be an open discussion without conclusions yet.
Also related to USB, I have Chordette Qute EX USB DAC but BDP-2 doesn't recognise this device, doesn't appear in Audio Devices list as other USB DAC's do appear. Is there incompatibility with Chordette Qute EX?
http://www.chordelectronics.co.uk/products-info.asp?id=91
Again, thanks for your reply.
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Thank you James, got the idea, seems to be an open discussion without conclusions yet.
Also related to USB, I have Chordette Qute EX USB DAC but BDP-2 doesn't recognise this device, doesn't appear in Audio Devices list as other USB DAC's do appear. Is there incompatibility with Chordette Qute EX?
http://www.chordelectronics.co.uk/products-info.asp?id=91
Again, thanks for your reply.
Hi
We have not tested the Chordette but sounds like an incompatibility issue.
james
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I know this happens often because I read a previous thread. My BDP1 was affected by a black out. I read a thread about how reconnection is possible by clicking the address button down arrow to get the previous BDP1 address. That fixed the connection on both my laptops. But I have not been able to get my desktop to find the BDP1 on the Manic Moose software or Gnome Music Player.
When I input bryston-bdp-1.local it will either default to a websearch or address; or time out.
Gnome Music Player won't work on the desktop with bryston-bdp-1.local, but it works on both laptops. There is obviously some software setting in my desktop which is preventing connection with the bdp1. Am I missing something?
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replace bryston-bdp-1.local with actual ip address of the player in your browser;
you can set the IP address of BDP as static in the settings, so next time will not change
alternative, you can set up fixed IP address for BDP in your router
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Thanks for the response. Where do I get the ip address of the player from? I also have a problem where sometimes the BDP1 and other computers in the network don't display in the network map. This happens often.
And now the BDP1 and NAS Drive show on the network map. Maybe sometimes it just takes a long time to load.
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Push once down arrow from front plate of BDP1 to get the IP address
Booting time: my BDP1 is fully functional about 3 minutes. On front panel, second line, should display the square sign.
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Have Manic Moose up and running. Thanks. I now know how to find my way to BDP1 if it drops off.
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BDP-2 Audio Devices in MM
Nothing appears in Audio Devices in my BDP-2 (S2.11 2015-04-13 MPD 0.18.21) although two DACs are connected and working. The built-in Audio Device does not appear.
Any ideas?
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I was having this problem often. It is related to the Local Master Browser setting. If you are operating a NAS Drive, it is best to set the NAS Drive as the Local Master Browser. If you are using a Synology NAS Drive the setting is located in Control Panel/File Services/Advanced Settings. Enable Local Master Browser.
The problem arises if you operate a number of computers on a network. The first computer that switches on becomes the Local Master Browser by default. When that computer switches off, all devices on the network will disappear. If you then switch it on the devices on the network will not reappear, unless you switch off/on all the other devices.
The best setting is to set the NAS Drive as Local Master Browser and leave it on. It will go into idle when the computers are switched off, but as it is always on, all devices will appear on your network when you switch any computer on the network on.
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Thanks, but there is no NAS involved and only one computer.
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Hi Chris: ( BDP-2 with latest update )
Would like to try USB out to a PS Audio PWD II. Do I plug it in "hot" or must both the player and DAC be powered down first.
Thanks, Rich
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I don't think it matters. I usually simply put pre-amp on mute. I keep USB permanently plugged in and use the input selector for different inputs.
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Hi Chris: ( BDP-2 with latest update )
Would like to try USB out to a PS Audio PWD II. Do I plug it in "hot" or must both the player and DAC be powered down first.
Thanks, Rich
http://www.bryston.com/PDF/Manuals/BDP-2_MM_Manual.pdf
Please see page 15
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I don't think it matters. I usually simply put pre-amp on mute. I keep USB permanently plugged in and use the input selector for different inputs.
Sorry, misunderstood what you said. PS Audio PWD II can only be connected to BDP with co-axial outlet. BDP1 Co-axial is BNC plug, PS Audio co-axial is RCA. You will need BNC adapter for your digital cable to PS Audio DAC. Or order a digital cable with the output end BNC and the input end RCA.
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Hello, I have a 16TB RAID 5 with 1TGB usable (4 x 4TB HDs) with more than 70,000 songs now and expecting complete around 140,000. Now my question to the users is:
What is the maximum files quantity are you using/used with the BDP-1?
I want to know how this work in the real life, is the reason becasuse I ask to the users.
Thanks in advance...
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Bryston BDP-1 crowd-Which is advisable, to turn my
BDP-1 off after every use, or leave it on?
Regards!
Dane
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Hello, I have a 16GB RAID 5 with 12GB usable (4 x 4GB HDs) with more than 70,000 songs now and expecting complete around 140,000. Now my question to the users is:
What is the maximum files quantity are you using/used with the BDP-1?
I want to know how this work in the real life, is the reason becasuse I ask to the users.
Thanks in advance...
I'm in the process of re-mastering all my favourites. So I'm using 32 gig sticks, one fore electronic, one for rock, and one for pop. I'm planning on using 64 gigs for the rest of my collection. Then I want to get one large drive for back up.
I don't like going too large as I find it more cumbersome to scroll through songs. My system isn't well organized other than alphabetical and the 4 jump drives for regular use. :smoke:
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Bryston BDP-1 crowd-Which is advisable, to turn my
BDP-1 off after every use, or leave it on?
Regards!
Dane
I shut mine down every night, but on the weekend I leave it on 24/7 as well as the rest of my gear. 8)
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I'm in the process of re-mastering all my favourites. So I'm using 32 gig sticks, one fore electronic, one for rock, and one for pop. I'm planning on using 64 gigs for the rest of my collection. Then I want to get one large drive for back up.
I don't like going too large as I find it more cumbersome to scroll through songs. My system isn't well organized other than alphabetical and the 4 jump drives for regular use. :smoke:
Thank you for your feedback, at the present time I'm using a Macbook Pro 16Gb RAM plus Audirvana+ with the RAID connected using Firewire 800 to the MBP and all flow without problems to my BDA-1 through a Wireworld USB, but I want to remove the computer from middle and I have the opportunity of buy a BDP-1. My library is organized by iTunes. Do you think the BDP-1 have the power to move all this music?
PS: I corrected the size of the RAID, I wrote GB instead of TB.
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I have a 2TB hard drive that works with BDP1. I don't think the size of the drive matters. It comes down to software. My 4TB NAS Drive won't connect to BDP1, but since I only play from Flashdrives for best fidelity, the NAS drive is only used for storage.
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I have a 2TB hard drive that works with BDP1. I don't think the size of the drive matters. It comes down to software. My 4TB NAS Drive won't connect to BDP1, but since I only play from Flashdrives for best fidelity, the NAS drive is only used for storage.
Thank you for your feedback... I'm concerned about the file quantity the BDP-1 can manage without issues.
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Thank you for your feedback... I'm concerned about the file quantity the BDP-1 can manage without issues.
FWIW, I have more than 13,000 tracks on an attached USB drive with a BDP-1. I've experimented with USB Flash drives (128 GB and another 512 GB), as well as NAS (WD MyCloud). The attached USB drive is fastest for library generation (it's a powered, 7200 rpm drive).
The internal MPD playback software, and associated apps (e.g. MPad and MPDroid) work without breaking a sweat; library generation from scratch takes only a few minutes; playback is flawless. My guess is that my library could be a LOT larger with the same user experience.
Manic Moose works, as well, once your library and cover art are generated; that can take a seriously long time with a larger collection. I've been downloading the BETAs as they appear and the library issues are improving.
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FWIW, I have more than 13,000 tracks on an attached USB drive with a BDP-1. I've experimented with USB Flash drives (128 GB and another 512 GB), as well as NAS (WD MyCloud). The attached USB drive is fastest for library generation (it's a powered, 7200 rpm drive).
The internal MPD playback software, and associated apps (e.g. MPad and MPDroid) work without breaking a sweat; library generation from scratch takes only a few minutes; playback is flawless. My guess is that my library could be a LOT larger with the same user experience.
Manic Moose works, as well, once your library and cover art are generated; that can take a seriously long time with a larger collection. I've been downloading the BETAs as they appear and the library issues are improving.
Thank you Krutsch, your answer is very helpful to me... I'm asking because Bryston say it can work with 30.000 files, and I have more than double...
I can understand from what you said, it depend more of the software...
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Hi James,
Is there a "compiled FAQ" or "known bug list" for the latest firmware of the BDP-2 ?
I just took possession of my BDP-2 a few weeks ago and I'd like to see if the problems/situation I am experiencing are already in the process of being adressed without posting them again...
Or just I simply dump everything here ? :D
Thanks!
Take care!
AJE
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Hi James,
Is there a "compiled FAQ" or "known bug list" for the latest firmware of the BDP-2 ?
I just took possession of my BDP-2 a few weeks ago and I'd like to see if the problems/situation I am experiencing are already in the process of being adressed without posting them again...
Or just I simply dump everything here ? :D
Thanks!
Take care!
AJE
Hi
Yes please let us know what issues you are having - so far I am not aware of any major issues with the latest software.
james
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Hi James,
Sorry if I sounded alarming... The BDP-2 works without any major issues.
The problem I'm referring to are mostly "little annoyance" or simply not properly understood on my side.
But I've just seen there's been an update I don't have (S2.14 2015-06-08). I'll update first and check if any of my concern have already been addressed.
Thank you for your prompt response.
Take care!
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Hi Guys,
Considering purchasing a dealer demo Bryston Bdp 1 and just wondering if it is coax out?
Thanks
Regards Rod
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Considering purchasing a dealer demo Bryston Bdp 1 and just wondering if it is coax out?
If it's not the currently available BDP-1USB (USB output only) but the previous BDP-1, it has an S/PDIF BNC Coaxial output and AES/EBU XLR output.
Steve
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Hi Steve,
The dealer demo is the previous model. Looks like I will have to order an xlr balanced cable.
Thank you for the clarification.
Cheers Rod
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Hi Guys,
Just ordered a Bryston Bdp 1 from my Australian dealer which is located in Melbourne. I live in Perth which is about 2000 miles away. We are a small market :).
Luckily, I was able to purchase a brand new unit but this is the older version of the Bdp 1. Hoping that it sounds great and is easy to setup. I am a clux with computers. Also bought an AES/EBU cable. Looking forward to storing my cd's in the attic.
Cheers Rod
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Hi Rod,
With the current firmware, Bryston has made operation/use of the BPD series pretty user friendly. And if you run into a hiccup, just post here!
- Garrett
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Rod
Would be worth asking the dealer to load the latest firmware before taking delivery. If it's an original BDP 1it could still be on much older firmware - so you can get started with the latest and best.
Not that's it's much hassle to do yourself, I've had no problems but apparently it can go wrong sometimes.
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Hi Guys,
Just ordered a Bryston Bdp 1 from my Australian dealer which is located in Melbourne. I live in Perth which is about 2000 miles away. We are a small market :).
Luckily, I was able to purchase a brand new unit but this is the older version of the Bdp 1. Hoping that it sounds great and is easy to setup. I am a clux with computers. Also bought an AES/EBU cable. Looking forward to storing my cd's in the attic.
Cheers Rod
Hi Rod!
The BDP-1 is every bit as good as the BDP-2 when audio quality is in question. The "new" BDP-1USB is essentially a BDP-1 without BNC and XLR output so even if the BDP-1 is an older model, it is better than the BDP-1USB. I bought the BDP-1 last year, two weeks before the company discontinued it so it is one of the very last few that were made but let me tell you, I did this with a specific purpose. The BDP-2 had features I do not need so I felt the substantial difference in ptice (1000 Euro) was not worth it for me.
You will like the BDP-1 player.
Cheers!
Antun
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Hi Guys,
Looks like I'm going to get lots of friendly help in this circle. I've been reading James Tanner's posts for years and it is such a friendly circle. One of the reasons I bought the Bryston Bdp1 is because of the back up.
I'll post when the unit arrives here in Perth. It has 2000 miles to travel to get to me.
Cheers Rod
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Hi
We have not tested the Chordette but sounds like an incompatibility issue.
james
The USB audio driver for the Chord Chordette should be included in recent Linux kernels. The Chord Chordette uses the M2Tech hiFace OEM interface and it not appear in the list of devices depending on where the units software looks for information about connected devices. I would connect the Chord Chordette via USB without any other USB device connected to the unit and try playback as it might be working properly without displaying its presence.
Jesus R
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Hi Chris: ( BDP-2 with latest update )
Would like to try USB out to a PS Audio PWD II. Do I plug it in "hot" or must both the player and DAC be powered down first.
Thanks, Rich
This is in general and not specific to this unit. Linux will automatically discover and play to most USB audio devices when hot plugged. However, there are few USB audio devices that need you to reboot the Linux operating system. One reason for this seems to be related to the fact that some units default to a particular hardware output and the order that you plug things in can makes a difference for playback. There are also some USB audio devices that require that you power cycle them before you power on the unit. As an example, this is necessary with the Mytek USB 2 input because the DAC needs to exchange a firmware with the unit on first boot up.
Jesus R
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Hi Guys,
Well I received a phone call today to inform me that the Bryston Bdp 1 is on its way from Melbourne. It should arrive before the end of the week.
Okay I exclusively use a Mac Book Pro and store my music using iTunes. I'm wondering Apple lossless is supported on the Bdp 1 and also whether I have to format the usb hard drive using FAT 32?
Thanks of your help.
Regards Rod
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Hi Guys,
Well I received a phone call today to inform me that the Bryston Bdp 1 is on its way from Melbourne. It should arrive before the end of the week.
Okay I exclusively use a Mac Book Pro and store my music using iTunes. I'm wondering Apple lossless is supported on the Bdp 1 and also whether I have to format the usb hard drive using FAT 32?
Thanks of your help.
Regards Rod
Hi Rod
Yes the BDP will support Apple Lossless.
Are you using the drive in your computer to store the music or an external drive? If external format it Fat 32 or NTSF. FAT 32 will work on a MAC or a Windows computer. Most Thumb-drives come formatted FAT32
james
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OK I got the BDP-2. It never occurred to me before to check out the weight, I always assumed it would be a light thing but it's actually rather heavy considering it's thickness. Also quite a robust power cord for a digital component. I ordered the extra long 8 foot one but didn't measure before I installed and connected to my Furman but it was just barely long enough. I'll pull it later on just to see if it's 8' and not 6'.
So I got it to see my NAS but only what seems like the 1st 300 songs ordered by artist alphabetically. There doesn't seem to be a page next for me to keep scrolling through all my content. I assume you can do that but how do I see my entire music catalog? But an even bigger problem I can't get any sound out of the unit. I can see on the web interface on my computer the song is playing and can see the song on the display. Is there a trick to get sound to output form the AES/EBU jack? The input on my SSP is properly set to the AES/EBU input. What is being output from the AES/EBU jack, I assume it's PCM?
I clicked on one icon that said "Album view has yet to be built, building view this may take a few minutes" When I click OK that message is immediately followed by a message saying "Please go into Disk Information and select a drive to be used as the scratch drive". What's that mean?
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Correction, I thought I had a song playing and just couldn't hear it but that wasn't the case the progress indicator sort of goes across as you load up the media player which fooled me. No matter what song I click on and press play the song won't play not even from the front panel. I'm clearly missing something simple.
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I just noticed in the System screen the unit is seeing 4958 songs so it knows they are there on the NAS.
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Hi
From my experience some thoughts:
0. When powering on BDP, give time to finalize all boot sequence. This is done when you see a square sign on the VFD
1. After setting the NAS, click on Update link that appears in left top corner of web interface
2. Give time to update music library. Update is running all time when on VFD display, second line, first letter is U
3. Click on the Media Player text in right top corner; this will change your view
4. on the new view, in the right panel, you should see a panel with some folders, first should be music_on_your_NAS; click on it, not on the + sign
5. this should open folders structure on your NAS, navigate by scrolling and clicking on the name of sub-folders, not on +;
6. choose your desired folder to be played by clicking on the +; on the left panel you should see tracks from that folder; click on a track and will start to play
After you get comfortable with this interface, you may create playlists
Scratch drive is a USB stick that BDP will use to create swap files and store libraries that will create if you want to create album databases
There is also simpler ways to play music that I would recommend:
- for PC: install Cantata (http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Cantata?content=147733)
- for smartphone/tablet: install a MPD player
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Thanks
I can now browse through all of the folders and files on my NAS. I can't seem to get them to play or add them to the list on the left though. I click Clear and it empties the list on the left however as soon as I choose the + next to an album or go into the album folder and click + next to a song the same 300 song list just reappears on the left. Any thoughts as to what's going on?
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hmmm...When I changed from Default view to Song View I can see what I added so that's good. It's odd though that the Default View is not properly being updated but at least I can choose items now. Still can't actually play anything though. Clicking Play does absolutely nothing.
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hmmm...When I changed from Default view to Song View I can see what I added so that's good. It's odd though that the Default View is not properly being updated but at least I can choose items now. Still can't actually play anything though. Clicking Play does absolutely nothing.
Make sure you hit UPDATE on MM interface or Refresh Cache on MPAD
james
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Hi James yeah Update is not doing anything, at least not for the list on the left. I can Clear it, then click Update then click + next to an album and the 300 songs pop back in.
I notice in the list there is a 'N' below the song I'm currently on. What does that mean? I see that on the BDP's display as well.
To simplify things I plugged in the Bryston USB stick to try and play songs directly off of that, still no luck, nothing happens, no sound at all. Besides the song and artist name I see || or N (that's beside the artist name), I'll briefly get a Loading when I click Play but other than that nothing.
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Paying really close attention after I click Play occasionally there is the Play symbol for a fraction of a second but it seems to kick into pause mode immediately. I assume that's what the || symbol I'm seeing indicates.
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Rod, have you tried unplugging the BDP and letting it sit for a minute or two? That sometimes makes things better.
Terry
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Thanks, will give that a try now.
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Thanks, will give that a try now.
Hi Rod
Where are you located?
james
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Nova Scotia
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Nova Scotia
Ok email Gary - gdayton@bryston.com - and he will help.
james
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Thanks
Unplugging, waiting a few minutes and reconnecting the power cord seems to have sorted out the issue with the list view not properly populating so that's good. Still not getting any audio as the songs just won't play. I'm going to try swapping the AES/EBU for a S/PDIF.
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Still no luck on getting files to play with the S/PDIF cable. The left hand list is still working correctly on my iPad but there does seem to be a bug when using IE 11 and Windows 8.1 as my laptop is still exhibiting the same behaviour.
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Sounds like you really need to contact Gary like James said. If anybody can figure out what's going on, he or Chris can Good luck!
Terry
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I just sent Gary and e-mail.
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Finally. I got it working. I had to go into Audio Devices and enable the BUC card. I'm now listening to some 96/24 songs. Sounding pretty good :)
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Finally. I got it working. I had to go into Audio Devices and enable the BUC card. I'm now listening to some 96/24 songs. Sounding pretty good :)
Great to hear :thumb:
james
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So does the BDP have to go through that long boot up sequence every time you toggle the power button? The power toggle seems to act more as a hard on/off switch performing a full system boot each time rather than the typical standby where a unit would be on and ready in just a couple seconds or so. It must take the better part of 60 seconds to get to the ready stage.
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So does the BDP have to go through that long boot up sequence every time you toggle the power button? The power toggle seems to act more as a hard on/off switch performing a full system boot each time rather than the typical standby where a unit would be on and ready in just a couple seconds or so. It must take the better part of 60 seconds to get to the ready stage.
HI Rod
Yes it must go through a complete start up (reboot) - I typically leave mine on unless I am away from listening for a few days.
james
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The BUC card? Would this be the new Integrated audio device James? Intriguing!
Cheers!
Antun
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The BUC card? Would this be the new Integrated audio device James? Intriguing!
Cheers!
Antun
Yes the bases for the new card.
james
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HI Rod
Yes it must go through a complete start up (reboot) - I typically leave mine on unless I am away from listening for a few days.
james
OK, thanks
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can the new audio card be installed into a BDP-1, or is it only for the 2?
thanks.
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can the new audio card be installed into a BDP-1, or is it only for the 2?
thanks.
Hi Phil
Only the 2
james
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Hi Guys,
Just received my Bryston BDP 1 today. The quality of the unit looks fantastic, especially, in comparison to some of my other gear.
From reading the setup manual it looks like the only way I can use my iPad to remotely control the BDP 1 occurs if I hard wire a cable using the ethernet connection to a wireless router. The issue I have is my wireless router is in another room and I don't really want to run a cable 30 feet.
Just wondering if there are any other options I can use to operate my iPad.
Thanks for your help.
Regards Rod
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Hi Guys,
Just received my Bryston BDP 1 today. The quality of the unit looks fantastic, especially, in comparison to some of my other gear.
From reading the setup manual it looks like the only way I can use my iPad to remotely control the BDP 1 occurs if I hard wire a cable using the ethernet connection to a wireless router. The issue I have is my wireless router is in another room and I don't really want to run a cable 30 feet.
Just wondering if there are any other options I can use to operate my iPad.
Thanks for your help.
Regards Rod
Hi Rod,
Your next best option is to use a powerline av kit
http://www.amazon.ca/Linksys-Powerline-Network-Adapter-PLEK400/dp/B006JG5S6K
They range in speed, most common are 200mbps and 500mbps
The next best solution would be a wireless bridge.
Cheers
Chris
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Hello,
Thank you for the information I'll do some research on how to make this work.
Cheers Rod
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Hi Guys,
Okay so I bought a power line network adapter which was very easy to setup and works perfectly. I'm using mPad which also has worked perfectly with the bryston usb which was supplied. I have been able to load some a couple of albums of music on this usb and it also is fine. Having problem though with the usb hard drive which had about 50 cd's of music ripped to it. The usb was recognised by the BDP 1 but after over one hour it still hadn't uploaded the music.
Any ideas?
Cheers Rod
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I've read where the initial database building can take some time, but that's usually with people who have thousands of CDs ripped. I've also read that there are some brands of drives that have comparability issues, though i don't know which. You might reply with the make/model of yours.
Computers some times have problems with devices that are plugged in (or powered on) AFTER the computer is booted up. Do you have the external drive powered up and plugged in before you power up the BDP-1?
- Garrett
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Hi Guys,
Okay so I bought a power line network adapter which was very easy to setup and works perfectly. I'm using mPad which also has worked perfectly with the bryston usb which was supplied. I have been able to load some a couple of albums of music on this usb and it also is fine. Having problem though with the usb hard drive which had about 50 cd's of music ripped to it. The usb was recognised by the BDP 1 but after over one hour it still hadn't uploaded the music.
Any ideas?
Cheers Rod
You should check disk information to ensure your USB hard drive is being recognized
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My BDP-2 does not recognize any of my three DACs (BDA-2 and two DSD capable DACs) in “Audio Devices” but this does not stop it from playing files through them (including DSD files).
What is likely to be the reason for the non-recognition?
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My BDP-2 does not recognize any of my three DACs (BDA-2 and two DSD capable DACs) in “Audio Devices” but this does not stop it from playing files through them (including DSD files).
What is likely to be the reason for the non-recognition?
Are you connecting via AES, BNC or USB? As far as I'm aware your DAC will only be listed as a separate audio device if you connect via USB. But if you are not using USB, then it's interesting you are getting DSD replay.
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The connection is USB.
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I have a question for those Bryston owners who have the the BP-26/MPS-2 Preamp/Power Supply in addition to their BDP-1 Digital Players. Have you enabled the remote trigger feature to turn your BDP-1 on or off when you turn on power to the MPS-2 power supply? The BDP-1 uses an 3.5mm 2-conductor phone jack connection for the in and out remote triggers, but the MPS-2 uses wire connectors. What have your experiences been using this?
Thanks in advance!
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You should just be able to wire I up with the correct connectors, polarity shouldn't be an issue
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Hi Guys,
I'm all up and running now after only a couple of issues which I've sorted out. The network line adapter works perfectly and is a good recommendation for customers who have a system which is not in the same room as their wifi/router.
I'm using Mpad which i find very easy to use. I only have 72 albums on the usb hard drive but these are the best recordings that I have. I can definitely hear and improvement in my system. Very happy with the Bryston BDP 1.
Cheers Rod
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Regarding your recommendation, do you use this adapter also to access files from NAS or only to manage BDP?
My experience was that such adapter was Ok to manage BDP and maybe access CD resolution files but starting with 24 bit / 96 KHz files became a bottleneck
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My experience was that such adapter was Ok to manage BDP and maybe access CD resolution files but starting with 24 bit / 96 KHz files became a bottleneck
Not sure why that would be. Even the lower end current powerline network adapters, while usually not able to get maximum throughput from their 100mbps Ethernet port, can still usually manage > 25mbps even with less than optimal powerline conditions.
An uncompressed 24/96 file has a bitrate of ~ 4.6mbps, a 24/192 file ~ 9.2mbps and a DSD64 dsf file has a bitrate of ~ 5.6mbps. I could see where a DSD256 file might have trouble depending on other network traffic and conditions.
Steve
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Maybe it have something to do with sustainability of such transfer rate or with error rates. I had similar experience with wireless bridge. Only wired connection worked in my case (I live in big apartment building with lots of electrical noise)
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Maybe it have something to do with sustainability of such transfer rate or with error rates. I had similar experience with wireless bridge. Only wired connection worked in my case (I live in big apartment building with lots of electrical noise)
I think when the tech first came to market it wasn't very good for streaming content, but the 200mb and 500mb stuff seems to be fine for streaming content. Also the connection on those things can get quite slow, sub 2Mb (assuming worst case scenario) and that is below the tolerance required for flac playback.
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I think when the tech first came to market it wasn't very good for streaming content, but the 200mb and 500mb stuff seems to be fine for streaming content. Also the connection on those things can get quite slow, sub 2Mb (assuming worst case scenario) and that is below the tolerance required for flac playback.
I have no problem with BDP-2 playing DSD128 and DXD (24/352) over power line adapters (Devolo).
Whether the SQ is as good as from local storage is another matter...
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Trying out a friends BDP-2 and I was wondering if it can use a cheap remote for the basic functions? Also, I have a world class digital cable w/ RCA terminations. Should I use an adapter on the BNC or replace w/ a quality RCA (if I buy it)?
So far I'm really impressed w/ the sound, not so much w/ the ergonomics. It just beats my transport that bested transports over 5K. My wife is sensitive to Wi-Fi so that option is out. Why couldn't they have worked w/ bluetooth? I will try to set up the ethernet option to my Macbook pro but not there yet.
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You can probably set up any remote that will record IR to work with the BDP-2 if you have the original to use. Personally, I never use the remote. I find the software interface to meet all my needs. What functions would you want on the remote that you'd not use the regular web interface for?
Also, what portion of the ergonomics do you not enjoy?
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Remember that I'm approaching this whole thing w/ the understanding I won't be using Wi-Fi so can't control the unit from a phone or tablet. Only my computer (which I understand doesn't have the best interface). Don't mind having to go to the computer (in the same room) to set up a playlist or album, but once I hit play and sit down, I want to be able to pause or go to next track. I understand you can't fast forward w/ a remote. Plus, it kinda sucks as the display is tiny and I can't see my computer screen from my listening position. These I consider to be really bad ergonomics . This piece is optimized for Wi-Fi and Wi-Fi sucks. (IMHO) I really want to figure out how to make it be somewhat practical to use. At least as easy as a CD transport.
But it does sound REALLY good!
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This piece is optimized for Wi-Fi and Wi-Fi sucks. (IMHO)
But you realize the wi-fi is only for remote control and it does not have to do with playback...
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Also, I have a world class digital cable w/ RCA terminations. Should I use an adapter on the BNC or replace w/ a quality RCA (if I buy it)?
Not sure what you mean by world class cable but I would think adding an adapter onto the end may cancel out what your quality cable is doing but I'm not sure how adapters affect cable performance. If replacing the cable you could also look into AES/EBU or even USB. Not knowing what your cable is it's possible it may be worth more than the BDP-2 where that may not have been the case with your current player. I don't know how you feel about cables being used that cost more than the gear they are attached to :) but with that in mind if you feel you need a new cable rather than simply use an adapter it might be an opportunity to scale down the cable thus the financial hit you take by possibly selling your current one doesn't prove to be so costly in the end.
I'm of the mindset to never spend more on the cable than the gear so decided against the cable I would have preferred, a Siltech Golden Eagle II and went with the Golden Ridge II. Now if the player had of been say a Moon 780D then I could have justified the Golden Eagle but that's just the way I tend to allocate my money.
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But you realize the wi-fi is only for remote control and it does not have to do with playback...
Yes, but my wife is sensitive to the effects of Wi-Fi in not a good way.
As regards my digital cable, without going into it too far, it had an impact on my system more than any other component ever did, it's that good. And yes, it did cost some $$$ but I got it used. And my current transport is a Peter Daniel minimalist wonder that I power off of 12v batteries. Plays wayyyy about it's pay grade.
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Yes, but my wife is sensitive to the effects of Wi-Fi in not a good way.
Hi
I do not want to pry but I am interested in what the issues are with Wi-Fi - first I have heard of this.
James
Bryston
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Wi-Fi is like (not the same as) cellular. It's a radiation, for lack of a better word. Like microwave radiation. Some people are sensitive to these enviormental man made whatever you want to call them. Some say they harm the physiology. They make my wife feel bad. Wi-Fi makes me feel somewhat drained ,especially if I'm physically near the router. So we hardwire all our stuff in our home. Some would say it's BS, which is fine w/ me but it is what it is.
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For "hardwired" operation of my BDP I use sometimes my PC with Cantata (http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Cantata?content=147733)as remote control
Also other device that I use hardwired is a Minix Neo X7 (http://www.amazon.com/MINIX-Quad-Android-Bluetooth-Google/dp/B00EE4LHX2); it is a mini PC with Android that transforms my TV intro a giant tablet. Can be operated with mouse and on it you can install most apps you would normally install on a tablet, so also MPD control applications like MPDroid
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Correct me if I'm wrong but when ordering new can't you specify that you want a RCA out rather than BNC on your BDP-2?
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Correct me if I'm wrong but when ordering new can't you specify that you want a RCA out rather than BNC on your BDP-2?
Hi
No you would have to use an adapter cable with RCA on one end and BNC on the other,
james
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Ah ok thanks for confirming. I could have sworn I read something somewhere recently on the forums that this was possible. I must have misread or misremembered :)
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Ah ok thanks for confirming. I could have sworn I read something somewhere recently on the forums that this was possible. I must have misread or misremembered :)
You may be thinking of the BDA DAC which offers that option ?
james
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Yeah that's probably what it was.
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Hi Guys,
Thoroughly enjoying my Bdp 1 and definitely not experiencing buyers regret. Just having a couple of minor issues which I think is related to the usb hard drive. I'm using mPad with my iPod with good results.
The issue I'm experiencing is between tracks I have an intermittent problem when I hear a moderate level pop or distortion. Any ideas what might be causing this problem?
Cheers Rod
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James:
A few people I know have issues with a BDP-2 not connecting with a PS Audio DAC via USB. The latest firmware for this DAC needs to see 5V on the VBUS line to connect (this resolves an issue where it had to be occasionally rebooted to reconnect with some computers).
Query: Does the BDP-1/2 follow the USB standard and output 5 volts on the VBUS line?
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James:
A few people I know have issues with a BDP-2 not connecting with a PS Audio DAC via USB. The latest firmware for this DAC needs to see 5V on the VBUS line to connect (this resolves an issue where it had to be occasionally rebooted to reconnect with some computers).
Query: Does the BDP-1/2 follow the USB standard and output 5 volts on the VBUS line?
Will ask engineering.
james
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James:
A few people I know have issues with a BDP-2 not connecting with a PS Audio DAC via USB. The latest firmware for this DAC needs to see 5V on the VBUS line to connect (this resolves an issue where it had to be occasionally rebooted to reconnect with some computers).
Query: Does the BDP-1/2 follow the USB standard and output 5 volts on the VBUS line?
Yes
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Hi Guys,
Thoroughly enjoying my Bdp 1 and definitely not experiencing buyers regret. Just having a couple of minor issues which I think is related to the usb hard drive. I'm using mPad with my iPod with good results.
The issue I'm experiencing is between tracks I have an intermittent problem when I hear a moderate level pop or distortion. Any ideas what might be causing this problem?
Cheers Rod
Hi.
I remember reading something similar here (http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=92231.msg959746#msg959746), maybe is related to the DAC? what firmware you have and what is your dac?
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Hi,
Thank you for the information and this could be the issue I'm experiencing. I would say though that this occurs when I'm playing a whole album where once or twice I hear a popping sound or loud distortion between tracks. I would have thought that the frequency is the same on the entire album though?
I'm also trying to figure out how to access the settings on Bryston Max but it is asking for a password. It requires a Name and password.
Firmware: S0.98 2011-04-01
My dac is an Eastern Electric Minimax Dac Plus.
Thank you for your help. The only sad thing is that when I went through my hundreds of cd's I thought it was only worthwhile to rip 72 albums as the majority were compressed and poor quality sounding.
Cheers Rod
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First, you run on very old firmware. I would strongly recommend to upgrade your firmware, maybe Bryston can help you on this. There was a link pointing to 1.75 firmware, but I can't find it...Or even upgrade for the new 2.14 firmware that is developed for BDP2. Then see if problem is there anymore
Second, you should do a health check for your usb drive; if it is as old as the firmware, maybe there are some issues there also
Maybe you can also clarify more: are this distortions random or each time for the same tracks? Also, the pops occurs in the silence between tracks of at the first seconds of a new track? I experienced distortions at beginning of new tracks in some particular conditions due to high processor usage, but not with CD quality, only with high resolution files.
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Hi,
Thanks for your help. I bought the Bryston Bdp 1 on special and presumed (older firmware) it was older stock as it is not the USB only version. The distortion occurs between the tracks and not during. I did have some problems formatting the usb hard drive so that could also be a problem.
Really I wasn't expecting it to sound as good as it does. I hope Bryston is going to be able to do some upgrades in the future as the BDP 1 is all I need.
Cheers
Rod
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I share your opinion
I also have BDP1 since 2012 and is all I need. Bryston provides firmware updates regularly and my BDP is at firmware S2.14 2015-06-08, same as for BDP2
I have large music library stored on a NAS and I use MPDroid app on my phone / Cantata on my PC as remote controls.
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Hi Guys,
I'm also trying to figure out how to access the settings on Bryston Max but it is asking for a password. It requires a Name and password. I can't access settings on Bryston Max because of this.
Thanks for your help.
Cheers Rod
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Hi Guys,
I'm also trying to figure out how to access the settings on Bryston Max but it is asking for a password. It requires a Name and password. I can't access settings on Bryston Max because of this.
Thanks for your help.
Cheers Rod
bryston in both - lower case
James
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Hi James,
Thank you for your help.
Regards
Rod
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james
can original BDP-1 be connected to USB DAC via USB cable ?
if so will connecting this way bypass sound card ? :scratch:
ed
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james
can original BDP-1 be connected to USB DAC via USB cable ?
if so will connecting this way bypass sound card ? :scratch:
ed
Hi Ed
Yes it can and that bypasses the sound card.
james
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Hello,
I recently upgraded my BDP-1 firmware to S2.16 2016-06-19, and since then the player has been periodically freezing, requiring a database refresh or reboot. I just noticed in the revision notes that the MPD version 0.19.9 included in the firmware is not compatible with the BDP-1. I'm thinking this may be the cause of the freeze issues. Can anyone advise how to revert to a previous firmware version that includes an MPD version that is compatible with BDP-1?
Many thanks in advance for your help.
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Hello,
I recently upgraded my BDP-1 firmware to S2.16 2016-06-19, and since then the player has been periodically freezing, requiring a database refresh or reboot. I just noticed in the revision notes that the MPD version 0.19.9 included in the firmware is not compatible with the BDP-1. I'm thinking this may be the cause of the freeze issues. Can anyone advise how to revert to a previous firmware version that includes an MPD version that is compatible with BDP-1?
Many thanks in advance for your help.
There are multiple versions of MPD included with the firmware, 0.19.9 is one of three. You should place he BDP into service mode and email us the service id.
Cheers
Chris
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Chris,
I just recently moved and in my previous home I had a cat5 run to the audio system
from my office where my apple computer is.
I have not done that in the new house and was wanting a quick way to get iphone
control of my bdp2, so I brought my old ethernet router into the living room, plugged it
in and hooked the bdp2 up to it, but nothing I try gets me access....
Does the ethernet router HAVE to be connected to a computer? I don't see why it would
since I'm not using anything internet based.....
Thanks
Eric
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I got it working. apparently i was connecting to the guest feature of the router and it didn't like that......
It is great to know that you don't necessarily have to string cat5 all over your attic.
Now I'm going to be looking for a super tiny ethernet router that can sit behind the bdp2.....
Maybe Bryston needs to make the future BDP wifi and bluetooth enabled.....
Chris,
I just recently moved and in my previous home I had a cat5 run to the audio system
from my office where my apple computer is.
I have not done that in the new house and was wanting a quick way to get iphone
control of my bdp2, so I brought my old ethernet router into the living room, plugged it
in and hooked the bdp2 up to it, but nothing I try gets me access....
Does the ethernet router HAVE to be connected to a computer? I don't see why it would
since I'm not using anything internet based.....
Thanks
Eric
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I got it working. apparently i was connecting to the guest feature of the router and it didn't like that......
It is great to know that you don't necessarily have to string cat5 all over your attic.
Now I'm going to be looking for a super tiny ethernet router that can sit behind the bdp2.....
Maybe Bryston needs to make the future BDP wifi and bluetooth enabled.....
You may want to use the Apple Airport Express, since you are already using an Apple computer. It is a good, small router.
https://www.apple.com/airport-express/
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I've had my BD1 now for a couple of years now and love it. I've recently experienced a problem with the cover art on a couple discs that I've never had before. I downloaded a digital album from Bandcamp and then transferred it to to my BD-1 hard drive same as I usually do. When I viewed the album (disc #1) in Mpad I noticed that it had the cover art of a different album in my collection (disc #2). I assumed that I must have copied the wrong cover art file so I deleted it, copied over the correct file, and updated the database. After doing this I was surprised that the wrong cover art was still there. I did this a couple of times with the same result. I finally deleted the cover art entirely.....not only from the folder containing disc #1, but also from disc #2 thinking that perhaps there was a link between the two folders. I updated the database again expecting not to see cover art for either album. However, I am still seeing the incorrect cover art for both disc #1 and and disc #2. I even went into the Cover Wizard for each album and selected the Local Cover Art (which is now blank), updated the database, but still with no effect.
Anyone have an idea as to what is going on?
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have you tried clearing the cover art cache?
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No I haven't. Didn't realize there was such a thing. How do I do it? BTW...really appreciate the response/help.
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Unincognito - I figured out how to clear the cache and it worked! Thank you.
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I have two questions regarding firmware updates for the BDPs.
1. In case one buys a second hand BDP is one still eligible for firmware updates?
2. Although the BDP-1 is discontinued will it continue to receive firmware updates?
Thanks in advance.
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I have two questions regarding firmware updates for the BDPs.
1. In case one buys a second hand BDP is one still eligible for firmware updates?
2. Although the BDP-1 is discontinued will it continue to receive firmware updates?
Thanks in advance.
Yes to both sir :thumb:
james
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I really need to know what's up with my BDP-2.
Have had her for perhaps 2yrs and have had to change the main board.
Have had the new sound card installed about 3 months ago.
WHY IS IT I ALWAYS HAVE TO SHUT MY BDP-2 DOWN WITHIN A WEEK EVERY TIME AT LEAST TO GET IT TO PLAY.
Everything freezes up,can't go from from one song to the next from the created playlist(EVEN REFRESHING IT).
None of the buttons (icons) work on IPad,HCP,or Manic moose,Nothing External or internal HOME HCP OR ANYTHING
Of all the times I have had to send it in for something even my audio dealer are surprised I don`t have a new one.
Christ my AV-8 has been on since 2006 24/7 and not a hick up as all my amps ect,even my BCD-1 was better.
Tryin not to BITCH,but reeeeealy.
I love my my BDP-2(when it works),
but when your in the mood for tunes and of course she Fcks up at least once a week,
I will add when I first got the BDP-2 she was plugged into a 240v 20a Torus,then I went direct to wall and finally went with a RM Surgex which has helped tremendously ,
Just want to play the music with n F K ups
then I ALWAYS have to power her down unplug the FKN cord ..................WAIT and start all over.
AM I THE ONLY ONE THAT HAS TROUBLES WITH THE BDP`S,
if that is so and nobody else seems to have troubles with the obviously I have a dud.
Tryin to behave here and I`m just tryin to ENJOY the music which gets very difficult as the F`ups are way to frequent(ONCE A WEEK if I leave the BDP-2 on 24/7
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I've only had mine since June but no issues at all. Occasionally it takes a bit of time to load up all of my songs but other than that no complaints. I certainly wouldn't leave I on 24/7 though.
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I really need to know what's up with my BDP-2.
Have had her for perhaps 2yrs and have had to change the main board.
Have had the new sound card installed about 3 months ago.
WHY IS IT I ALWAYS HAVE TO SHUT MY BDP-2 DOWN WITHIN A WEEK EVERY TIME AT LEAST TO GET IT TO PLAY.
Everything freezes up,can't go from from one song to the next from the created playlist(EVEN REFRESHING IT).
None of the buttons (icons) work on IPad,HCP,or Manic moose,Nothing External or internal HOME HCP OR ANYTHING
Of all the times I have had to send it in for something even my audio dealer are surprised I don`t have a new one.
Christ my AV-8 has been on since 2006 24/7 and not a hick up as all my amps ect,even my BCD-1 was better.
Tryin not to BITCH,but reeeeealy.
I love my my BDP-2(when it works),
but when your in the mood for tunes and of course she Fcks up at least once a week,
I will add when I first got the BDP-2 she was plugged into a 240v 20a Torus,then I went direct to wall and finally went with a RM Surgex which has helped tremendously ,
Just want to play the music with n F K ups
then I ALWAYS have to power her down unplug the FKN cord ..................WAIT and start all over.
AM I THE ONLY ONE THAT HAS TROUBLES WITH THE BDP`S,
if that is so and nobody else seems to have troubles with the obviously I have a dud.
Tryin to behave here and I`m just tryin to ENJOY the music which gets very difficult as the F`ups are way to frequent(ONCE A WEEK if I leave the BDP-2 on 24/7
Wow, quite a story, and you seem like you're actually holding back from what you would really like to say. I sympathize.
If I owned the company and read this tale of woe, I'd send you a brand new unit, no charge, and stay in contact to be sure it didn't happen again. The cost to the company is insignificant, as opposed to this very real anecdote that has a much larger negative effect.
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I really need to know what's up with my BDP-2.
Have had her for perhaps 2yrs and have had to change the main board.
Have had the new sound card installed about 3 months ago.
WHY IS IT I ALWAYS HAVE TO SHUT MY BDP-2 DOWN WITHIN A WEEK EVERY TIME AT LEAST TO GET IT TO PLAY.
Everything freezes up,can't go from from one song to the next from the created playlist(EVEN REFRESHING IT).
None of the buttons (icons) work on IPad,HCP,or Manic moose,Nothing External or internal HOME HCP OR ANYTHING
Of all the times I have had to send it in for something even my audio dealer are surprised I don`t have a new one.
Christ my AV-8 has been on since 2006 24/7 and not a hick up as all my amps ect,even my BCD-1 was better.
Tryin not to BITCH,but reeeeealy.
I love my my BDP-2(when it works),
but when your in the mood for tunes and of course she Fcks up at least once a week,
I will add when I first got the BDP-2 she was plugged into a 240v 20a Torus,then I went direct to wall and finally went with a RM Surgex which has helped tremendously ,
Just want to play the music with n F K ups
then I ALWAYS have to power her down unplug the FKN cord ..................WAIT and start all over.
AM I THE ONLY ONE THAT HAS TROUBLES WITH THE BDP`S,
if that is so and nobody else seems to have troubles with the obviously I have a dud.
Tryin to behave here and I`m just tryin to ENJOY the music which gets very difficult as the F`ups are way to frequent(ONCE A WEEK if I leave the BDP-2 on 24/7
Has the IP address been changing? Every week seems like the duration a DHCP lease time might set for.
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Chris I don't believe so,
I'll give yo a shout tomorrow.
IP address has been the same,
once a week she freezes up and have to power her down and reboot and it happens of course when were groovin with the oldies.
Maybe that it LOL.
I'll say also when you play a track..before when track is playing and the NEXT tune is up it stays where it is even 4-5 tracks later.
Before playin was playin and next was next,now she just stays on the track that is playing.
9 my time is about 10-10-30 your time,THX.
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I just acquired a BDP-1 and it works like a charm. The sound is fantastic. I bought a few Kingston 64GB USB drives and did the drag and drop in iTunes to the drive using Apple lossless format. The BDP-1 won't recognized the drive when I plug it into it???? What am I doing wrong? It shows up in red at the bottom but you can't access it.
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James,
Recently, while attempting a firmware upgrade on my Bdp-1, I have run into a lot of trouble with Manic Moose. I have emailed Chris and have posted for Unincognito without problem resolution. Today Ihave attempted to contact Chris and Unicognito without success. They are probably are very busy. Perhaps you could prod them.
Mark Bain
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James,
Recently, while attempting a firmware upgrade on my Bdp-1, I have run into a lot of trouble with Manic Moose. I have emailed Chris and have posted for Unincognito without problem resolution. Today Ihave attempted to contact Chris and Unicognito without success. They are probably are very busy. Perhaps you could prod them.
Mark Bain
Hi Mark,
will do.
james
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Cough :duh:and many more.
I thought my BDP-2 was haywire....not the case.
Since I had connect wifi for outside the BDP worked fantastic most of the summer,after that I started having a few issues(POSTED ABOVE)
Couldn't be my wifi as it worked great before so I assummed it was the BDP...NOT.
Started to trouble shoot,in house worked great......sooooooooooo I decided to connect a range extender(AMPED).
Here we go a good hour and a bit with no hick ups so far so good.
Then I would have to refresh my ipad to go to the next track as she would freeeze up....good for another half hr or so.
Chatted with Chris and probably is better to hard wire my range extender as even double pane windows will make her drop 10% or so.
So far she has been pretty good,sides shes's gettin cooler outside.
Any I'd like to apologize if I pissed any one off since it had to be the BDP and not my wifi,since it worked great before.
A little trouble shooting goes long ways which I didn't think about.
Far as the hard wire ,we'll see in the spring,so all's good.
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You might look into ethernet over power wire. You won't win any through put awards, but it's plenty fast enough for music.
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drummer mitchell,
the BDP's are wonderful units. i understand your frustration but please try to keep the tone more respectful. the Byston staff are incredibly accessible and, in my experience, offer help whenever issues arise.
for what's its worth, i turn my BDP off regularly after use, keep up with firmware updates and it works fine when I'm ready to listen again.
hope you have better luck in the future - happy listening.
TJ.
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Cough :duh:and many more.
I thought my BDP-2 was haywire....not the case.
Since I had connect wifi for outside the BDP worked fantastic most of the summer,after that I started having a few issues(POSTED ABOVE)
Couldn't be my wifi as it worked great before so I assummed it was the BDP...NOT.
Started to trouble shoot,in house worked great......sooooooooooo I decided to connect a range extender(AMPED).
Here we go a good hour and a bit with no hick ups so far so good.
Then I would have to refresh my ipad to go to the next track as she would freeeze up....good for another half hr or so.
Chatted with Chris and probably is better to hard wire my range extender as even double pane windows will make her drop 10% or so.
So far she has been pretty good,sides shes's gettin cooler outside.
Any I'd like to apologize if I pissed any one off since it had to be the BDP and not my wifi,since it worked great before.
A little trouble shooting goes long ways which I didn't think about.
Far as the hard wire ,we'll see in the spring,so all's good.
Good to hear.
2 things I did for my BDP-1 a while back.
1. Use an ethernet over power line (Netgear).
2. Use a powered USB hub for my pocket drives (500GB G-Drives) feeding ONE USB-A slot in back of BDP-1.
Am still using Loony Loon, I refuse to "upgrade" to Moose, as I've read so many glitches on other forums, incl the Bryston Support Forum.
Cheers
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question for chris or james.
i listened to Tidal 'directly' through the BDP1 for the first time today....Dashboard > Applications > Tidal Beta and seemed to work fairly well - but when i switched back to the Media Player to access tracks from my external drive (as normal) i couldn't hear the music. i could see the track playing like normal, but no sound. i tried refreshing the screen a few times, but no love. i ended up doing a re-boot and could listen just fine again. i listened from Tidal again tonight and when i tried to access my library again, i got the same result - no sound. i'm running version S2.18 . sorry if you've answered this question in a previous thread..:scratch:
cheers, TJ.
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Well sully I guess you didn't read my last post did you.
My gear is on 24/7 has been for yrs and not a problem and I mean yrs.
you should maybe reread................... :roll:.
I will add I din't mean hardwire I meant the Ethernet connection :thumb:
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question for chris or james.
i listened to Tidal 'directly' through the BDP1 for the first time today....Dashboard > Applications > Tidal Beta and seemed to work fairly well - but when i switched back to the Media Player to access tracks from my external drive (as normal) i couldn't hear the music. i could see the track playing like normal, but no sound. i tried refreshing the screen a few times, but no love. i ended up doing a re-boot and could listen just fine again. i listened from Tidal again tonight and when i tried to access my library again, i got the same result - no sound. i'm running version S2.18 . sorry if you've answered this question in a previous thread..:scratch:
cheers, TJ.
Did you clear the queue in tidal?
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i'll try that next time, thanks C.
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Hi
I have been trying to update my BDP-1. All my attempts ends up with this message:-
"Downloading firmware filesystem
undefined% @undefined
Downloading boot drivers
100% @8
Downloading vmlinuz image
Running Filesystem Check: 5b13ffa02485e5da6e63020a05a92245 /lib/live/mount/medium/live/filesystem.new
:fecab6ed6f07e14f68a46972eb070c1cFilsyst em Check Failed: md5 values different
Should Be: fecab6ed6f07e14f68a46972eb070c1c
Calculated: 5b13ffa02485e5da6e63020a05a92245
You should try redownloading this version of the firmware and try again"
I am currently running S2.16 2015-06-19. Is there another way to download the firmware and use the update via a thumbdrive?
Thanks.
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Hi
I have been trying to update my BDP-1. All my attempts ends up with this message:-
"Downloading firmware filesystem
undefined% @undefined
Downloading boot drivers
100% @8
Downloading vmlinuz image
Running Filesystem Check: 5b13ffa02485e5da6e63020a05a92245 /lib/live/mount/medium/live/filesystem.new
:fecab6ed6f07e14f68a46972eb070c1cFilsyst em Check Failed: md5 values different
Should Be: fecab6ed6f07e14f68a46972eb070c1c
Calculated: 5b13ffa02485e5da6e63020a05a92245
You should try redownloading this version of the firmware and try again"
I am currently running S2.16 2015-06-19. Is there another way to download the firmware and use the update via a thumbdrive?
Thanks.
Keep in mind you need to restart the BDP between update attempts. Otherwise place the BDP into service mode and email me the service id.
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Hi Chris
It didn't work unfortunately. So sent you the service ID via email. Thanks.
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Some folks have asked for a Volume control on the BDP Manic Moose software. It has to be engaged through the "Audio Devices" tab in Dashboard if you wish to utilize it.
Trying it out this weekend.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=131739)
james
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Some folks have asked for a Volume control on the BDP Manic Moose software. It has to be engaged through the "Audio Devices" tab in Dashboard if you wish to utilize it.
Trying it out this weekend.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=131739)
james
Hi James!
Does that mean you'll be able to connect DAC's outputs (like the ones on the BDA-2) directly to a power amplifier's inputs without the need for a separate preamplifier?
How is the volume control done and does it affect the audio quality in the digital domain by bit truncation?
Cheers!
Antun
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Hi James!
Does that mean you'll be able to connect DAC's outputs (like the ones on the BDA-2) directly to a power amplifier's inputs without the need for a separate preamplifier?
How is the volume control done and does it affect the audio quality in the digital domain by bit truncation?
Cheers!
Antun
Currently it only controls the BDP or SP3 volume at this point (maybe the BDA3 DAC as you need ethernet control)) and you do loose bits as you turn the level down. For maximum performance I recommend leaving the volume fully up. It is really just a feature some people wanted for casual listening.
james
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Currently it only controls the BDP or SP3 volume at this point (maybe the BDA3 DAC as you need ethernet control)) and you do loose bits as you turn the level down. For maximum performance I recommend leaving the volume fully up. It is really just a feature some people wanted for casual listening.
james
Hi James,
yes, I agree it would be a useful feature ... a volume control *and* mute for casual listening or if a quick mute is a must.
maybe I should post the following in a different thread, but since we're talking about volume controls, I will write a related personal wish here.
I think it would be quite useful a LED on the volume control, to be manufactured and sold as an accessory, both for the BP-25 and 26 - one which could be replaced by the owner or by Bryston.
It's not a blasphemy ... music sounds better in the dark (no visual input to the brain, only acoustic input running through the Connectome [ http://tinyurl.com/kn9a9oy ])
And if someone thinks it is a blasphemy, the choice would be a regular no-LED model.
Same idea for the headphones amplifier ... 8)
Cheers,
Fernando.
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Question on cover art.
I normally use my BDP-1 with a usb hard drive directly connected, but after reading about potential benefits of a NAS I figured I would give that a go, since I already had a NAS anyway.
With Mpod app I would add the cover folder as 192.168.0.1/music/ for example and this would work fine.
But now using the NAS I have the music working fine but cannot get any cover art, what address/ value do you use ? the IP of the BDP or the NAS? or something else.
Thanks.
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Sorry if this has been covered recently; I couldn't find a related post.
I recently bought a Samsung 500GB T1 external SSD USB drive for use with my BDP-1. According to Samsung, it comes formatted as exFAT. It is my understanding that the BDP-1 needs the drive to be formatted as FAT32 or NTFS. So I formatted it as NTFS (on my Win7 machine) and copied a few folders of FLAC files to the SSD.
I played several FLAC files OK from this SSD in my office via Win7 - JRiver. However, when I went downstairs and plugged the SSD into a rear USB port on the BDP-1 there is no joy. The BDP-1 reads the volume name and displays the folder names... but won't open any of the folders or play any FLAC files. Any suggestions are welcome!
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Can I use BDP-2 to output ethernet audio to ethernet audio renderer? I think it is good to have the flexibility.
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Sorry if this has been covered recently; I couldn't find a related post.
I recently bought a Samsung 500GB T1 external SSD USB drive for use with my BDP-1. According to Samsung, it comes formatted as exFAT. It is my understanding that the BDP-1 needs the drive to be formatted as FAT32 or NTFS. So I formatted it as NTFS (on my Win7 machine) and copied a few folders of FLAC files to the SSD.
I played several FLAC files OK from this SSD in my office via Win7 - JRiver. However, when I went downstairs and plugged the SSD into a rear USB port on the BDP-1 there is no joy. The BDP-1 reads the volume name and displays the folder names... but won't open any of the folders or play any FLAC files. Any suggestions are welcome!
Hi Ren,
What version of the firmware is your BDP is running?
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Hi Ren,
What version of the firmware is your BDP is running?
It's running S2.05 2014-07-11
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I've been using the SPDIF cable with my BDP-1, and just switched this weekend to AES cable.
The AES cable seems to be have more clarity but maybe it's just louder. So does anyone know if using the AES cable adds gain and if so how many decibels. (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-music001.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)
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I've been using the SPDIF cable with my BDP-1, and just switched this weekend to AES cable.
The AES cable seems to be have more clarity but maybe it's just louder. So does anyone know if using the AES cable adds gain and if so how many decibels. (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-music001.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)
Hi
It does not add gain but it has twice the voltage swing.
james
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I have an older BDP-1 and have always used AES output from the soundcard. Has anyone compared the USB out of the BDP-1 to the AES output with respect to sound quality? Any preference?
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It's running S2.05 2014-07-11
You should upgrade to S2.20, I recently tested an exfat drive and it was fine.
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Hi
It does not add gain but it has twice the voltage swing.
james
Okay, how does that translate to what I'm hearing?
Listening to Allman Bros. Fillmore East 1970, In Memory of Elisabeth Reed, Strasborough Blues and Whipping Post as test tracks. At 8 on my volume dial I'm perceiving the music much louder. I think I would have to turn it up to 4 on dial with SPDIF to be near equivalent. The guitars also sound meaner, more raw.
So with increased clarity of AES cable I'm perceiving the music louder, twice the voltage swing allows greater dynamic range? (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-cool06.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)
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Okay, how does that translate to what I'm hearing?
Listening to Allman Bros. Fillmore East 1970, In Memory of Elisabeth Reed, Strasborough Blues and Whipping Post as test tracks. At 8 on my volume dial I'm perceiving the music much louder. I think I would have to turn it up to 4 on dial with SPDIF to be near equivalent. The guitars also sound meaner, more raw.
So with increased clarity of AES cable I'm perceiving the music louder, twice the voltage swing allows greater dynamic range? (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-cool06.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)
Hi Mag
The receiving devices just seem to like the extra voltage and of course the signal path is balanced.
james
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Hello!
I have a question regarding BDP-2. I will be moving and so will my system. But it will have to be stored in it's box for a couple of nonths till everything is taken care of. Is this a good idea? Is there something inside the BDP-2 that could fail if it's not plugged into the mains for several months? A back-up battery or something?
Thank you!
Antun
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Hi, having recently changed by broadband supplier and modem/router I am now unable to connect my BDP-1 to the home network. It is hard-wired with ethernet cable. The (static) ip address is still displayed on the front panel but no computer or tablet can access it. I have tried rebooting both router and BDP but to no effect. I was able to download flac files to a WD passport drive attached to the Bryston via the network only a couple of days ago but now the Bryston does not show as being on the network at all. I cannot use it other than via the front panel buttons. Can the Bryston be reset?
Nigel
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Hi, having recently changed by broadband supplier and modem/router I am now unable to connect my BDP-1 to the home network. It is hard-wired with ethernet cable. The (static) ip address is still displayed on the front panel but no computer or tablet can access it. I have tried rebooting both router and BDP but to no effect. I was able to download flac files to a WD passport drive attached to the Bryston via the network only a couple of days ago but now the Bryston does not show as being on the network at all. I cannot use it other than via the front panel buttons. Can the Bryston be reset?
Nigel
Hi Nigel,
have you tried resetting your network settings from the front panel controls?
Push right
Down to settings
Push right
I think reset network settings is the second option
Once this is done, check if the IP address has changed.
Cheers
Chris
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Hi Nigel,
have you tried resetting your network settings from the front panel controls?
Push right
Down to settings
Push right
I think reset network settings is the second option
Once this is done, check if the IP address has changed.
Cheers
Chris
Thanks Chris, just what I needed to know. Why is this not covered in the manual?? For others' benefit - you have to push right and down buttons simultaneously. Problem sorted.
Nigel
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It is, the last page of the manic moose manual
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It is, the last page of the manic moose manual
Something else I knew nothing about - I have some catching up to do, thanks!
Nigel
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Hi Chris,
I have some feedback on the Tidal beta on the BDP-2 S2.20 2015-11-20.
I tried it for the first time today. For the longest time, there was no sound. I finally went into the Tidal Settings to try and debug the issue. That is where I saw that I have to manually select the Playback Device. I have the BDP-2 connected to my DAC via AES and USB. For playback via MPD or bRadio, they both output simultaneously, and I can select either input on the DAC, if I want to do A-B comparisons. However, in the Tidal beta, I have to pick one output and hit Apply. In my case, it was defaulting to USB, but I was trying to play via AES.
After this, I decided to check on the A-B via Shareplay. It only worked via USB. AES would not output at all, even though the DAC showed a signal lock.
If I may ask, I have 3 questions. Why does the output need to be selected in the Tidal beta, when this is not the case with MPD and bRadio? Can Tidal be setup to act the same as the rest of the BDP-2? Do you know why the USB output is working fine with Shareplay, but AES is silent?
After writing the above, I tried the AES again in Tidal Settings. Even after pressing Apply, there was still no sound. However it works fine via MPD.
Here are some other issues that I noticed.
* The media controls at the bottom of the screen do not work
* The BBP-2 did not respond to Stop, Pause, skip track, etc. from the physical, hand-held remote
* The Play triangle next to a track does not work
* The counter for the Queue showed (0) even though there was tracks that I added to the Queue
* I loaded a Tidal curated play list in the queue. When I tried to play it, it just skipped straight down the list track by track without playing anything.
* Tried to clear the Queue with the stop square at the bottom, but it did not clear
* Using the Chrome browser on a Mac, when I try to scroll down the menu of options on the left side of the Tidal beta (i.e., What's New, Queue, Playlist, etc.), it does not scroll, even though I know there is content below the edge of the screen, because I can see the top of cutoff text
* If I hit the play triangle on a Playlist, it will add the tracks to the Queue, but will not start playing them, like it does on tidal.com
* Would it be possible to match the left side menu in the Tidal beta to the same menu on tidal.com?
In general, I did manage to get Tidal to work, after a bit of fiddling and reboots. However, it did not work as smoothly as accessing it from tidal.com via Chrome. I hope you find this feedback helpful. I look forward to the next firmware/Tidal update.
Thank you
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Hi Chris,
Any plans of adding Spotify as an app on the BDP software? Would love to listen to Spotify via my BDP-1. Cheers.
Chetan
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I have some feedback on the Tidal beta on the BDP-2 S2.20 2015-11-20.
Also, please add the triple vertical dots to select sub menus on tracks, albums, artists, etc. I was looking for Artist Radio and Track Radio. I may have missed it, but I do not see a way to play either without the triple dot menus.
Thank you
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Any plans of adding Spotify as an app on the BDP software? Would love to listen to Spotify via my BDP-1. Cheers.
It would be great to also have Pandora, Google Music, Amazon Music, and Apple music. I am not sure which ones are technically and financially possible. I know in the past you mentioned that some of the music services require a cost prohibitive licensing fee.
Thank you
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Sorry if this is elsewhere...
I tried adding my first downloaded hi-res album to my SSD in the BDP2, I see it on my pc but the Bryston software does not display it. It lists all of my BOT1 ripped CDs. The meta data looks the same as the BOT ripped data - any suggestions?
Thanks!
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I saw Chris' video - update NAS function did the trick!
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Hi Chris,
Any plans of adding Spotify as an app on the BDP software? Would love to listen to Spotify via my BDP-1. Cheers.
Chetan
Hi Chetan,
Spotify or Deezer/Deezer Elite will be next I just don't have ETA. We briefly started working on a Spotify add-on, we got as far as applying for an API key and compiling the demo code. Then we were told we have tidal, so we should focus else where. As of December there has been reconsideration from management. Although Spotify has already been started, from what I have read (briefly) Deezer is suppose to work all lot like Tidal. Although we have started Spotify, we may do Deezer first as we could potentially have it out the door "quickly". Again there isn't any ETA, but we recognized that having streaming services is a nice convient feature.
Cheers
Chris
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Also, please add the triple vertical dots to select sub menus on tracks, albums, artists, etc. I was looking for Artist Radio and Track Radio. I may have missed it, but I do not see a way to play either without the triple dot menus.
Thank you
I havn't added the radio features yet, I think those and the up and coming options are still missing
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Hi Chris,
I have some feedback on the Tidal beta on the BDP-2 S2.20 2015-11-20.
I tried it for the first time today. For the longest time, there was no sound. I finally went into the Tidal Settings to try and debug the issue. That is where I saw that I have to manually select the Playback Device. I have the BDP-2 connected to my DAC via AES and USB. For playback via MPD or bRadio, they both output simultaneously, and I can select either input on the DAC, if I want to do A-B comparisons. However, in the Tidal beta, I have to pick one output and hit Apply. In my case, it was defaulting to USB, but I was trying to play via AES.
After this, I decided to check on the A-B via Shareplay. It only worked via USB. AES would not output at all, even though the DAC showed a signal lock.
If I may ask, I have 3 questions. Why does the output need to be selected in the Tidal beta, when this is not the case with MPD and bRadio? Can Tidal be setup to act the same as the rest of the BDP-2? Do you know why the USB output is working fine with Shareplay, but AES is silent?
After writing the above, I tried the AES again in Tidal Settings. Even after pressing Apply, there was still no sound. However it works fine via MPD.
Here are some other issues that I noticed.
* The media controls at the bottom of the screen do not work
* The BBP-2 did not respond to Stop, Pause, skip track, etc. from the physical, hand-held remote
* The Play triangle next to a track does not work
* The counter for the Queue showed (0) even though there was tracks that I added to the Queue
* I loaded a Tidal curated play list in the queue. When I tried to play it, it just skipped straight down the list track by track without playing anything.
* Tried to clear the Queue with the stop square at the bottom, but it did not clear
* Using the Chrome browser on a Mac, when I try to scroll down the menu of options on the left side of the Tidal beta (i.e., What's New, Queue, Playlist, etc.), it does not scroll, even though I know there is content below the edge of the screen, because I can see the top of cutoff text
* If I hit the play triangle on a Playlist, it will add the tracks to the Queue, but will not start playing them, like it does on tidal.com
* Would it be possible to match the left side menu in the Tidal beta to the same menu on tidal.com?
In general, I did manage to get Tidal to work, after a bit of fiddling and reboots. However, it did not work as smoothly as accessing it from tidal.com via Chrome. I hope you find this feedback helpful. I look forward to the next firmware/Tidal update.
Thank you
There's all lot here, I'll take a second look at it when I get back from holiday
bRadio uses MPD for playback, you may notice the radio station appear in the mpd playlist when it plays. MPD is kind of new features in that sense, it allows you to output to multiple device simulataneously.
In tidal if you want to switch between outputs, select the output you want, click apply, if a song is playing or paused, click stop. Next song played should play through the selected output. If it doesn't go back to settings and see if the change took place.
The buttons at the bottom should function, perhaps send me a screen shot, there might be a rendering issue I'm unaware of.
I havn't added any control of tidal from the physical or IR yet, that is to come eventually
Clearing the queue currently can only be done by way of the clear button, found under a menu that can be toggled by a button in the lower right corner.
Thanks for the feedback
Cheers
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+1 for Deezer. Great streaming service.
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In tidal if you want to switch between outputs, select the output you want, click apply, if a song is playing or paused, click stop. Next song played should play through the selected output. If it doesn't go back to settings and see if the change took place.
The buttons at the bottom should function, perhaps send me a screen shot, there might be a rendering issue I'm unaware of.
Is is possible to use MPD for Tidal, so the output behaves in the same manner as bRadio and the core player? it would be nice to not worry about selecting outputs in the Tidal app.
The buttons at the bottom seem to be rendering without any issues in Firefox, Chrome, and Safari. However, the experience is faster (i.e., the interface renders faster) in Safari than it does in Firefox.
Where I was thrown off was the extra steps needed to start playing music on the BDP app. For example, if I want to play a curated Tidal playlist on tidal.com, I do the following
- Playlists
- Chose a category (e.g., Relax)
- Hover over a playlist (e.g., Tidal Relax)
- Press the play triangle and there is music - the tracks are added to the queue and they start playing at once
In the BDP app
- Moods
- Relax
- Click the play button, which turns blue, on the banner to add all lists and play, but nothing happens
- Click + on Tidal Relax -- it opens the playlist and adds the songs to the queue, but does not start playing
- Click the play button, which turns blue, on the Tidal Relax banner at the top, it adds the songs to the queue again, but does not play music
- Click the play button at the bottom for music
There are some other aspects in which the BDP Tidal app does not mirror the functionality or interface of tidal.com.
* The Stop button at the bottom was added to the BDP interface, which I have grown to like
* It would be nice to have the icons on the left side of the main menu to match those on tidal.com
* It would be nice to have the sub-menus below My Music (e.g., Create New Playlist, Playlists, Artists, etc.). I know they shown within My Music, but it nice to have them in both places.
* I cannot find a Create New Playlist button/menu
* The tidal.com curated Playlist is labeled as Moods in the BDP
* If possible, it would be nice to have tool tips pop up, when the cursor hovers over icons
The number of songs in the queue is not rendering correctly in Safari.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=134138)
Thank you
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Brystons Bot 1,.Is this a plug in and play device ? I have a Bryston BDP 2 and currently I'm just looking to playback some music until I decide on a new computer / iPad or what have you,.
Thank you ,..
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Brystons Bot 1,.Is this a plug in and play device ? I have a Bryston BDP 2 and currently I'm just looking to playback some music until I decide on a new computer / iPad or what have you,.
Thank you ,..
Hi Rip (no pun intended)
The BOT only works with the BDP-2 and it is a CD Player (using the BDP-2 as the playback device) or a CD Ripper (rips to the BDP-2).
james
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Chris,
Is there a tutorial on integrating Tidal with BDP-2?
The firmware is up to date.
Thanks
Gary
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.... and the BOT-1 works excellently with the BDP-1, too, as ripper and CD player.
docder
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Hi Chris,
I can't even figure out how to update the firmware on my BDP-1. Fantastic product though and I"m really happy with it.
Cheers Rod
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Do you guys leave your BDP-1/2 on at all times (excluding when going away for a long time)?
In Canada, it's finally starting to get cold and my audio gear is near windows and so the gear never gets too warm to touch. It's barely warm throughout winter. In summer, it's another story. Wanted to hear if you guys change your habits seasonally, or leave on 24/7/365, or turn off when not in use?
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Do you guys leave your BDP-1/2 on at all times (excluding when going away for a long time)?
I leave everything on, all the time, except for my headphone amp - it has tubes.
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I usually turn mine off every night.
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Similar location, and usually leave on unless a hot summer day (now coming to an end)
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Do you guys leave your BDP-1/2 on at all times (excluding when going away for a long time)?
In Canada, it's finally starting to get cold and my audio gear is near windows and so the gear never gets too warm to touch. It's barely warm throughout winter. In summer, it's another story. Wanted to hear if you guys change your habits seasonally, or leave on 24/7/365, or turn off when not in use?
BDP-1 on
everything else off til 1 hr before listening, especially my 14B2 which eats power when idle!
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I have everything plugged into a power conditioner which I normally leave OFF. When I am ready to listen to music, I flip one switch to tun the whole works ON. If I am listening with headphones, I will turn the 4B3c off.
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I have everything plugged into a power conditioner which I normally leave OFF. When I am ready to listen to music, I flip one switch to tun the whole works ON. If I am listening with headphones, I will turn the 4B3c off.
Does this turn on your power amp last? Could be in for some nasty "pops" if the power amp flips on before the preamp and sources..... :o
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I know what you are talking about as I had that problem with some old equipment many years ago, where you could hear loud (bad?) pops through the speaker when the power amp turned on. I don't have this problem now, as the power conditioner allows me to set a delay on the power amp so that so that it does come on last. I think that there is already a delay built into the power amp (Bryston 4B3) power-up sequence so that it always comes on last, since it does seem to take longer than the other components to go through its cycle (irrespective of the power conditioner delay).
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I've been leaving it on as well along with my class D amp. Sounds better and convenient as well. I also appreciate the green LEDs more at night. I cannot do blue anymore. As an Emotiva owner, this is overdone. They are possibly the worst along its red at killing in your eyes in darkness.
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...BDP-1 & BDA-1 on 24/7, everything else (BCD-1, BP 26, SP 2, BP 1.5, 3B SST², 875 HT) off.
al.
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Does anyone know if attached disk drives (internal or external) spin down when the BDP-x goes to sleep?
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Does anyone know if attached disk drives (internal or external) spin down when the BDP-x goes to sleep?
Not sure. My external drives are plugged into a powered hub that draws power from the wall, not from BDP-1. The drives seem silent even when playing music..... :thumb:
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Does anyone know if attached disk drives (internal or external) spin down when the BDP-x goes to sleep?
The BDP doesn't really have a traditional sleep mode, however most if not all drives do spin down after certain amount of inactivity.
Cheers
Chris
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The BDP doesn't really have a traditional sleep mode, however most if not all drives do spin down after certain amount of inactivity.
Cheers
Chris
Yes, this is what I've also found with my various external portable hard drives (Western Digital). They'll slow down quite a bit. This can be felt by touching the hard drive enclosure. Also, it can be observed when you want to resume music after a long time and it will play immediately for half a second as that was stored in the memory, but then there's a pause for about 3 seconds where the hard drive kick backs in and the music resumes.
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I have the bdp-1 USB connects to the bda2. Can anyone help how I can play the dsd file as dop. I have tried all means but doesn't work.
Thks
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Did you follow the instructions in the manic moose manual under audio device? That was my problem.
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Yes. I have followed the instructions. Put a tick beside bda2 and hit Apply. The bdp1 plays the dsd file but no sound comes out. Do I kiss anything or bda2 not support dsd.
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Yes. I have followed the instructions. Put a tick beside bda2 and hit Apply. The bdp1 plays the dsd file but no sound comes out. Do I kiss anything or bda2 not support dsd.
Hi
Contact Gary and he will help.
gdayton@bryston.com
james
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Yes. I have followed the instructions. Put a tick beside bda2 and hit Apply. The bdp1 plays the dsd file but no sound comes out. Do I kiss anything or bda2 not support dsd.
BDA-2 isn't dsd capable
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Thanks a lot. I thought BDA-2 is DOP support
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Thanks a lot. I thought BDA-2 is DOP support
Sorry, we looked into it, but an ic responsible for the ultra low jitter hinders dsd capability
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Hi,
Just started using Tidal on BDP1 connected to BDA2 via USB and AES.
I cannot get output from the AES connection, within the Tidal app on the BDP tried selecting different output options but sound only comes from USB?
Share Port (airplay) sound only comes from USB despite changing output in audio devices?
Is this normal, am I doing something wrong
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Hi,
Just started using Tidal on BDP1 connected to BDA2 via USB and AES.
I cannot get output from the AES connection, within the Tidal app on the BDP tried selecting different output options but sound only comes from USB?
Share Port (airplay) sound only comes from USB despite changing output in audio devices?
Is this normal, am I doing something wrong
In Tidal settings only take effect until the next song is played or in the case of quality (lossy vs lossless), two songs.
The 3rd party renderers default to USB if a USB dac is connected during startup.
Cheers,
Chris
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Thanks Chris for reply,
The BDP booted with Tidal settings set to "ESI Juli@ ice 1724 iec958" audio played from USB, then swapped to "ESI Juli@ice 1724" no sound nothing
With shairport how do you get usb not to be the default setting, and output to aes
Thanks, please advise
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With shairport how do you get usb not to be the default setting, and output to aes
don't have a usb dac connected when you turn the BDP on
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Thanks Chris,
Issue with Tidal not playing from AES only usb despite changing settings and playing serval songs?
Thanks
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Thanks Chris,
Issue with Tidal not playing from AES only usb despite changing settings and playing serval songs?
Thanks
That one I'll have to look into
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I'm thinking about looking around for a well priced s/h BDP-1 (having owned a BDP 2 previously) for a second system
Is the following correct about the BDP1 in relation to my experience with BDP-2:
can run the very latest version of MM software as per BDP-2
can output DSD 64 and 128 (via USB, BNC and AES?)
cannot be fitted with internal drive
can rip files from a BOT or similar proving independently powered, but not load CD into memory for replay
the lack of memory will not prevent replay of large files (e.g. .dsf) from thumbdrive?
Thanks
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I'm thinking about looking around for a well priced s/h BDP-1 (having owned a BDP 2 previously) for a second system
Is the following correct about the BDP1 in relation to my experience with BDP-2:
can run the very latest version of MM software as per BDP-2
can output DSD 64 and 128 (via USB, BNC and AES?)
cannot be fitted with internal drive
can rip files from a BOT or similar proving independently powered, but not load CD into memory for replay
the lack of memory will not prevent replay of large files (e.g. .dsf) from thumbdrive?
Thanks
The BDP-1 will work with the latest versions of Manic Moose, but support will likely get cut from Nutty Narwhal (the next release).
It will output DSD via USB only and not BNC or AES, this is a function of the new audio output device
It will play audio cd's with a BOT or USB optical drive
The size of the music file has no bearing on limitation, the number of files could effect how well the native web interface functions
Also if your unaware we have released a new unit the BDP-Pi which retails at $1295.
Cheers,
Chris
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^ Ahhh....I get it now. Alphabetic software names.
Loony Loon
Manic Moose
Nutty Narwhal (LOL, great one there)
When "O" comes next....
Ooty Owl
:thumb:
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or...
Opinionated Orangutan
Opulent Otter
Obtuse Ocelot
Ornery Oryx
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or...
Opinionated Orangutan
Opulent Otter
Obtuse Ocelot
Ornery Oryx
Only the Otter is eligible...can be found in Canada. :green:
The others are not eligible -- found only in S. America, Texas, and Africa.
(Narwhals are good -- sometimes spotted off BC coast in Pacific). :thumb:
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^ Ahhh....I get it now. Alphabetic software names.
Loony Loon
Manic Moose
Nutty Narwhal (LOL, great one there)
When "O" comes next....
Ooty Owl
:thumb:
Ornery Otter is the current plan, but as it's a version of the firmware that is 2-4 years away from existing it'll likely change
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The BDP-1 will work with the latest versions of Manic Moose, but support will likely get cut from Nutty Narwhal (the next release).
It will output DSD via USB only and not BNC or AES, this is a function of the new audio output device
It will play audio cd's with a BOT or USB optical drive
The size of the music file has no bearing on limitation, the number of files could effect how well the native web interface functions
Also if your unaware we have released a new unit the BDP-Pi which retails at $1295.
Cheers,
Chris
Thanks Chris,
As I recall, my BDP2 did output DSD over spdif, before I upgraded to the IAD, so I imagined the BDP1 would too.
Will the BDP1 rip CDs as well as replay from a BOT or similar?
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Will the BDP1 rip CDs as well as replay from a BOT or similar?
yes, we've also added an option to turn off some of analyzing tools to speed up the process of ripping significantly on the BDP-1
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Hi, I am new to the forum, I have a Bryston BDP-1 USB I have updated it to the latest firmware, I have it connected to the home network and it detects the nas sygnology I have and also the hard disks connected in USB and when I Plays a CD does not end because it is blocked and I have to turn it off and on again, you can help me, m sorry for my English,
Greetings.
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I'm trying to get into the Admin settings for my BDP-1 and I don't remember what the login or password is. Is there a default I can try. I'ts been a very long time since I got in and wanted to update my firmware.
My build is Loony Loon 0.16.6
Thanks,
Mike
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you could try:
bryston
and
bryston
all lower case
David
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you could try:
bryston
and
bryston
all lower case
David
Works! Thanks!
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I learnt with pleasant surprise from this thread that the BDP-1 is capable of playing DSD files. I tried to play one of my DSD64 files but the MPD shows the BDP-1 outputs DSD352 and DAC (Auralic Vega) stutters. Foobar in my computer correctly identifies the file as DSD64 and plays it without any problem. Could you advise what I am doing wrong? Thank you very much.
Another thing I would like to consult with other users and experts from Bryston. The manual for BDP-2 says all its digital outputs may be used simultaneously. The manual for BDP-1 says nothing in this respect. In my experience the simultaneous use of both RCA and XLR digital outputs on my BDP-1 (to different DACs) leads to serious deterioration of both whereas simultaneous use of the USB and either SPDIF or AES/EBU outputs is without problem. I have no experience with the BDP-2. Could you concur to my findings as correct? Are the outputs supposed to behave like this? Thank you.
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Futher to my previous post and problems with DSD playback. The DAC also signals it is getting DSD352 input signal.
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Sorry for confusion, the DSD problem solved. I just did my homework and learnt that USB output must be ticked in the Devices Audio Settings and applied. I am even more happy with my BDP-1 now.
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Sorry for confusion, the DSD problem solved. I just did my homework and learnt that USB output must be ticked in the Devices Audio Settings and applied. I am even more happy with my BDP-1 now.
Great - glad you got it sorted.
james
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I have currently moved my BDP-1 into another location in the house where there is no ethernet connection and the network powerline adapters won't work either. However, the wifi is still solid. I was wondering if someone could link me to a simple and cheap wireless to ethernet output device that's preferably available at BestBuy.ca or Canada Computers. Any particular model that people had good experience with? Thanks.
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Did you have either powerline adapter plugged directly into a wall outlet or through powerbar, power isolator or something else?
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Up to now I used it with a Powerline adapter that was plugged directly into the wall and it worked fine. In the new location, I'm running around 60 feet of power cables from the wall, with around 4-5 different power cables extending into the next. So far I haven't even bothered putting the Powerline adapter into the end of 5 different power bars. I might try it and see if works, but I doubt it, given the number of connections it's running through and more importantly if that grid even connects up with the initial wall.
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James And Chris when are you guys going to implement Spotify app on Manic Moose? Its been about 3 years ago that you guys said you would consider this in Manic Moose build? Why is it we have only one choice Tidal as the only music streaming service app on the BDP's ? Is there a third party application we can use to listen to Spotify on my BDP-1 if Bryston is not interested in developing one?
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The BDP-1 will work with the latest versions of Manic Moose, but support will likely get cut from Nutty Narwhal (the next release).
I realize you have to end software development on products at some point, but as a new owner of a used BDP1 I have an interest in seeing things progress (forever).
Have you thought about grabbing an intern from the computer science department at your local university? A good intern programmer may be able to continue to handle debugging and glitches. Interns work for the experience, you'll (potentially) increase customer satisfaction (already pretty high, I'm sure), and you may even find some fantastic new employees!
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I realize you have to end software development on products at some point, but as a new owner of a used BDP1 I have an interest in seeing things progress (forever).
Have you thought about grabbing an intern from the computer science department at your local university? A good intern programmer may be able to continue to handle debugging and glitches. Interns work for the experience, you'll (potentially) increase customer satisfaction (already pretty high, I'm sure), and you may even find some fantastic new employees!
Chris is terrific. :thumb:
And hiring may not be within budget, which is tight in most specialty fields.
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Honestly though, I'd even PAY for a better interface for the BDP's. I love the sound quality, but I REALLY want something that is equally easy to use on a cell phone as it is a tablet or my computer.
Sonos has done a great job. Roon isn't too bad either.
I think it'd be great if the BDP series continued to include the web interface, but you could optionally obtain a better one, ideally that allowed you to stream other services too (Spotify, etc.) I KNOW the BDP is overkill for the quality of streaming audio, but sometimes I just want Pandora in the background to pick songs for me. It'd be GREAT if I just had ONE source for ALL my listening needs.
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It'd be GREAT if I just had ONE source for ALL my listening needs.
That would be the death of the audio industry.....
Once I tasted champagne, I don't settle for tap water. :green:
Cheers
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Honestly though, I'd even PAY for a better interface for the BDP's. I love the sound quality, but I REALLY want something that is equally easy to use on a cell phone as it is a tablet or my computer.
...
Soundirok is roughly $2 on the app store. It is a better interface for the BDP and it works great on my iPhone (also for Android).
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The BDP-1 will work with the latest versions of Manic Moose, but support will likely get cut from Nutty Narwhal (the next release).
It will output DSD via USB only and not BNC or AES, this is a function of the new audio output device
It will play audio cd's with a BOT or USB optical drive
The size of the music file has no bearing on limitation, the number of files could effect how well the native web interface functions
Also if your unaware we have released a new unit the BDP-Pi which retails at $1295.
Cheers,
Chris
Is there going to be a feature list so those of us with a BDP-1 can make a decision to upgrade? Are there going to be any more upgrades to Manic Moose? Anything to help with planning would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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I would just sit tight, we have put a bit of pause on nutty narwhal as we may keep the manic moose web GUI for nutty narwhal. We are currently evaluating a new manic moose web design for library management (which is on a very temporary pause while we make sure S2.32 is solid as a rock) before we resume work. Nutty narwhal won't be released until 2018.
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I would just sit tight, we have put a bit of pause on nutty narwhal as we may keep the manic moose web GUI for nutty narwhal. We are currently evaluating a new manic moose web design for library management (which is on a very temporary pause while we make sure S2.32 is solid as a rock) before we resume work. Nutty narwhal won't be released until 2018.
Chris,
Thanks for looping me in.
Mike
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I was wondering if you guys have compared the CPU vs. I/O usage on BDP-1 and/or BDP-2 when playing FLAC vs. WAV?
Reference: http://thewelltemperedcomputer.com/KB/WAV-FLAC.htm
"What happens if you play WAV?
A codec will interpret the content, translating it to raw PCM.
As the content is almost identical to raw PCM, this codec has almost nothing to do so have very little impact on CPU use.
However, as the file is uncompressed, you do have a lot of I/O
What happens if you play FLAC?
Exactly the same, a codec will interpret the content, translating it to raw PCM.
However, as the audio is compressed, it must be unpacked. This requires more CPU.
The file is about half size compared with WAV, so I/O is substantially reduced."
Aside from metadata support, I was wondering which format would make more sense for playback from the computer's standpoint with reference to the above except and how memory playback works in the BDP-1 and BDP-2? I noticed that my flash drive was active pretty much all the time with both formats.
Just curious. :thumb:
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From my perspective, the only thing that matters is whether SQ is degraded if CPU usage increases during the "unpacking" of FLAC.
To my ears, and in my system's BDP-1/BDA-1, the answer is no, for both 44/16 and 96/24.
So I use FLAC -- takes up less memory on my drives.
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From my perspective, the only thing that matters is whether SQ is degraded if CPU usage increases during the "unpacking" of FLAC.
To my ears, and in my system's BDP-1/BDA-1, the answer is no, for both 44/16 and 96/24.
So I use FLAC -- takes up less memory on my drives.
Yeah, that's what I used to think as well. Now I think the reality might be more complicated and that the results could differ based on the specs of the machine. I remember reading that the kind of noise FLAC created was more broadband, asymmetric and stable, whereas WAV had peaks or something like that. This can apparently create different patterns of jitter or noise. In Audirvana Plus, I can visually confirm that WAV decoding is near instantaneous. FLAC is just a little behind. Although, the I/O of WAV might be something to consider.
I have been doing more blind listening tests on the Mac (Audirvana Plus) and the BDP-1 and it's been eye-opening. I've also been observing how the CPU responds when seeking tracks quickly or changing tracks in both WAV and FLAC and how that impacts the next few seconds. This of course becomes important if you're jumping back and forth between FLAC and WAV in short intervals. For long uninterrupted playback, both formats seem to be stable in CPU load. This is on the BDP-1.
I have asked this type of question before from a personal standpoint. This time it was more from an academic standpoint. The blind listening tests have also been providing another important dimension in how the system sounds when playing uninterrupted. So just a typical Saturday. :lol:
EDIT: Also, I wonder if the DAC has any effect in this at all.
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^ The BDA-1 has, as far as practicality goes, nearly zero jitter. The human auditory threshold for detecting jitter is around 2000 ns or so (theoretically not real-world listening conds), not even close to the picoseconds as spec'ed in the BDA-1. So, I wouldn't worry.
Take a Valium and enjoy the music, my Friend....FLAC or WAV. :thumb:
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In the last 3 days of blind testing, I definitely improved. Yesterday I was close to 100% on Audirvana Plus. It's easier to do it there rather than running on BDP-1. Although, the results hold up there as well. I kinda figured out why I was off in the first day of blind testing. It was actually because in some tracks I preferred the FLAC over the WAV, but in others it was WAV.
The other thing I did was record which tracks I got wrong in blind testing. If the assumption was that the better sounding track was WAV each time, then you should get WAV each time. After a few trials, I noticed the ones that I got right were always the same ones, and the ones that I got wrong was also consistent. The bottom line of the first line was that I was actually not getting right and wrong all over the place. My preference for each track remained relatively same.
For myself, I have found the differences in how FLAC sounds against WAV. As of now, this change in sound actually holds up across all music. It took awhile to get there and blind testing forces you to learn new things.
WAV - The vocals and music sounds bigger and more 3D. The bass also has more bloom.
FLAC - Sounds more accurate and controlled from top to bottom.
They both sound great on my system, different, but still great. Haven't made up my mind on which version I like more or which is actually the more accurate. Perhaps a CD player. :lol:
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Can't see the music folders after updating to S2.32 and MDP 0.19.2. The "playlist" is visible as is a folder. There is an additional folder that doesn't seem to open, just indicates "loading," but nothing happens.
Went to "settings" icon and checked off "show hidden folders." The music folders now appear in red but cannot be accessed.
I checked the manual but didn't find a solution.
Thanks for any suggestions.
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^ The BDA-1 has, as far as practicality goes, nearly zero jitter. The human auditory threshold for detecting jitter is around 2000 ns or so (theoretically not real-world listening conds), not even close to the picoseconds as spec'ed in the BDA-1. So, I wouldn't worry.
Take a Valium and enjoy the music, my Friend....FLAC or WAV. :thumb:
I believe its 200 NS
james
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I believe its 200 NS
james
I stand corrected. Even smaller. Still thousand-fold higher than the picoseconds jitter of BDA-x. :thumb:
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WAV - The vocals and music sounds bigger and more 3D. The bass also has more bloom.
FLAC - Sounds more accurate and controlled from top to bottom.
They both sound great on my system, different, but still great. Haven't made up my mind on which version I like more or which is actually the more accurate. Perhaps a CD player. :lol:
Interesting observations. Both are lossless, so you should be able to convert WAV into FLAC and keep both for your fav tracks. Mood dependent listening. Seems like FLAC is more neutral and transparent. Solid state.
WAV may appeal more to the tube fans.
Cheers
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Interesting observations. Both are lossless, so you should be able to convert WAV into FLAC and keep both for your fav tracks. Mood dependent listening. Seems like FLAC is more neutral and transparent. Solid state.
WAV may appeal more to the tube fans.
Cheers
Yeah, all my albums that I have collected and ripped are in FLAC. That's considered my archive/backup as it takes up less space and has metadata that works on all systems. WAV also holds all this info and appears identical as FLAC on Audirvana Plus for example. I also use FLAC for playback depending on which floor that particular drive ends up. The WAV thing was something that I had given a shot about a year back because of my experiences in the past. So I have copies of both. Batch conversion on a fast computer takes few minutes for a 100+ albums. A whole album in about 5-10 seconds top.
Disclaimer: For the people reading along, all my conversion includes check, so all copies are identical. There are some people that believe files get worse after conversion or repeated conversion. I believe in no such thing. I have done null tests and they always match. All lossless formats are identical in what they store.
It's only in playback where I have found differences. To eliminate this problem, I use memory playback systems, but for some reason it's still there. I have done blind tests to eliminate chances of placebo or any biases. It genuinely becomes noticeable after a few hours/days of testing. A learning curve, just as with anything.
Going back to listening preferences, to others that may want to try this, I would suggest consuming entire albums in just one format for an extended period of time. When you switch over to the FLAC versions, you might feel a difference in the presence. I think in blind ABX comparisons, most people might actually end up picking FLAC as it comes off crisper and thus detailed. Although, WAV might come out on top in long listening sessions. There's something about the sound that makes it sound like WAV is completely unrestricted and not holding back. FLAC sounds like it's more polite and reserved while polished.
Perhaps: FLAC for micro, WAV for macro.
CM, Going by your habits, I think WAV will do you some good :wink:
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Yeah, all my albums that I have collected and ripped are in FLAC. That's considered my archive/backup as it takes up less space and has metadata that works on all systems. WAV also holds all this info and appears identical as FLAC on Audirvana Plus for example. I also use FLAC for playback depending on which floor that particular drive ends up. The WAV thing was something that I had given a shot about a year back because of my experiences in the past. So I have copies of both. Batch conversion on a fast computer takes few minutes for a 100+ albums. A whole album in about 5-10 seconds top.
Disclaimer: For the people reading along, all my conversion includes check, so all copies are identical. There are some people that believe files get worse after conversion or repeated conversion. I believe in no such thing. I have done null tests and they always match. All lossless formats are identical in what they store.
It's only in playback where I have found differences. To eliminate this problem, I use memory playback systems, but for some reason it's still there. I have done blind tests to eliminate chances of placebo or any biases. It genuinely becomes noticeable after a few hours/days of testing. A learning curve, just as with anything.
Going back to listening preferences, to others that may want to try this, I would suggest consuming entire albums in just one format for an extended period of time. When you switch over to the FLAC versions, you might feel a difference in the presence. I think in blind ABX comparisons, most people might actually end up picking FLAC as it comes off crisper and thus detailed. Although, WAV might come out on top in long listening sessions. There's something about the sound that makes it sound like WAV is completely unrestricted and not holding back. FLAC sounds like it's more polite and reserved while polished.
Perhaps: FLAC for micro, WAV for macro.
CM, Going by your habits, I think WAV will do you some good. A solid week or two of WAV. :wink:
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I'm a detail, micro freak. So FLAC. :thumb:
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NVM, got it working
simple format issue
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Can't see the music folders after updating to S2.32 and MDP 0.19.2. The "playlist" is visible as is a folder. There is an additional folder that doesn't seem to open, just indicates "loading," but nothing happens.
Went to "settings" icon and checked off "show hidden folders." The music folders now appear in red but cannot be accessed.
I checked the manual but didn't find a solution.
Thanks for any suggestions.
Have you tried updating the database yet?
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Have you tried updating the database yet?
Thanks, Chris. Eventually, yes, and the updating worked (I had assumed that rebooting the device would start an update and did that a few times).
The update did take a very long time (seemed to not be working at first).
Thanks for continuing to fit the code into the BDP-1. Where is the best place to get information on the new features?
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The readme file that appears before installing firmware updates
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Thanks, Chris. Eventually, yes, and the updating worked (I had assumed that rebooting the device would start an update and did that a few times).
The update did take a very long time (seemed to not be working at first).
Thanks for continuing to fit the code into the BDP-1. Where is the best place to get information on the new features?
Chris,
Yes, thank you very much for continuing to fit updates into the BDP-1.
Mike
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I have a BDP-1 till the new BDP-3 is here (yes good service from the importer), but I have a lot of music and I just reordered the HDD. Now the player doesn't work anymore and the text UPDATE is blue. Do I have to wait with playing till this text isn't blue anymore? I can play but after a few minutes the whle player doesn't do anything anymore. I just reboot the machine but still doesn't load all the directories of the HDD.
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I have a BDP-1 till the new BDP-3 is here (yes good service from the importer), but I have a lot of music and I just reordered the HDD. Now the player doesn't work anymore and the text UPDATE is blue. Do I have to wait with playing till this text isn't blue anymore? I can play but after a few minutes the whle player doesn't do anything anymore. I just reboot the machine but still doesn't load all the directories of the HDD.
Hi
Yes wait till it fully updates and the light goes off.
james
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Yes wait till it fully updates and the light goes off.
You mean the text "UPDATE" has to be white again? It's also normal that this takes more then 30 minutes for 1TB of data on a 2TB HDD?
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You mean the text "UPDATE" has to be white again? It's also normal that this takes more then 30 minutes for 1TB of data on a 2TB HDD?
The BDP-1 is very slow.
james
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Thanks for your quick reply. :thumb: :thumb:
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Well I waited the whole night but the BDP-1 doesn't come back anymore (well it starts). After I go to Mediaplayer and want to select the HDD the machine stops working. Is it possible that the HDD is to large? I asked this because I have this problems after changing everything on the HDD (I put the music in different directories) and put the data over the 1TB, before it was around the 900GB.
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Hi
Your hdd is not too big , the bdp1 can handle them at least up to 4 tb... got several of them working fine here.
Did you reset the DB? Manic Moose requires a specific order of commands. Changing a complete DB would be done best deleting the former dB first.
Cheers Marius
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Did you reset the DB? Manic Moose requires a specific order of commands. Changing a complete DB would be done best deleting the former dB first.
Not sure if I did this. What commands do I have to give and where do I have to do this?
What I did:
- press update waiting till the color returns to white, this never happend it stays blue after 8 hours. When I tried to do something in Manic Moose it hangs, I had to restart the BDP-1.
- I also have done a reboot.
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Not sure if I did this. What commands do I have to give and where do I have to do this?
What I did:
- press update waiting till the color returns to white, this never happend it stays blue after 8 hours. When I tried to do something in Manic Moose it hangs, I had to restart the BDP-1.
- I also have done a reboot.
You have to reset the DB, click save and reboot. Not at my BDP now, but find the button somewhere in the Mediaplayer settings.
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There is one option but I didn't use this because I don't know what is all does (and because the machine isn't mine) and that function is:
Reset To Factory: Resets all settings to factory default and clears the library
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There is one option but I didn't use this because I don't know what is all does (and because the machine isn't mine) and that function is:
admittedly it is not very well documented, and i can't find the manual on Brystons website right now, only the Pi... In my dl'd manual resetting the DB isn't mentioned.
But here goes:
clicking the gear icon of media Player settings:
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=158869)
gives an option to click Reset DB and Save.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=158870)
Do that, (click Reset DB) restart ((I think the BDP does that automatically, if not click reboot in System), and let the BDP update its library.
Might take awhile, (large library, small memory BDP1) but still, only 1 tb shouldn't take all day ;)
Cheers,
Marius
btw that same window offers the option of enabling the Bryston DB. Don't do that! It is not compatible with the BDP1 and large libraries.
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Thanks I will do this when I'm at home. I let you know if this was the solution.
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No this didn't help. What I saw was also very strange, because after I reset the DB and saved it and started up again and updated, it stills say that my thumb drive is in it. But the only drive that is connected is my HDD.
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No this didn't help. What I saw was also very strange, because after I reset the DB and saved it and started up again and updated, it stills say that my thumb drive is in it. But the only drive that is connected is my HDD.
Try starting it up with NO drives attached - when it is finished starting then attach the drive.
james
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Ok I just did it, it's now updating. I can play but after 5 minutes the player starts to stotter and stops playing.
This is how the menu looks like, it's in a weird alphabetic order:
(http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a582/SkynetLego/Bryston/DSC_0086_zpshcrf555d.jpg) (http://s1285.photobucket.com/user/SkynetLego/media/Bryston/DSC_0086_zpshcrf555d.jpg.html)
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Or this happens loading.... and then the player doesn't do anything anymore:
(http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a582/SkynetLego/Bryston/Bryston-BDP-1_hanging_zpsj5uv83sa.png) (http://s1285.photobucket.com/user/SkynetLego/media/Bryston/Bryston-BDP-1_hanging_zpsj5uv83sa.png.html)
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Ok, I still trying everything and I just emptied the cache and the BDP-1 started up out of it self. Now after playing 3 songs it's hanging again.
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I plugged out the HDD and plugged in my 128GB thumb drive and it works alright. It looks like that when updating the HDD something went wrong and kills everything. The strange thing is that I can't see anything back in the log files.
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Ok I think either there is a corrupt file on the drive or the drive requires too much power from the BDP USB port.
if you have a drive with an external power supply you should try that.
james
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if you have a drive with an external power supply you should try that.
It's a HDD with an own power supply.
Ok I think either there is a corrupt file on the drive or the drive requires too much power from the BDP USB port.
When I do a control check in Windows on the HDD nothing is wrong.
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Might be something wrong with the motherboard.
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It's a HDD with an own power supply.
When I do a control check in Windows on the HDD nothing is wrong.
You should place the BDP into service mode and email us the server id, this type of issue it would also be best to call us so we can look at the unit remotely while its reading in the contents of the drive as well.
Cheers,
Chris
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You should place the BDP into service mode and email us the server id, this type of issue it would also be best to call us so we can look at the unit remotely while its reading in the contents of the drive as well.
That is maybe possible but 1 it's a loaner and 2 I don't live in Canada but in The Netherlands and we have a slight time difference.
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Not sure, but it sounds you don't let the BDP finish updating before you start playing and using the MM interface. When updating the recordings DB the BDP has too little memory left to be able to do anything else really, let alone play without stuttering or distortion. Let it finish completely, and then see what happens. A minor nuisance it is, but after that you will be able to play anything very smoothly.
Alphabetical issues are also known. Let the BDP/MM do their work first.
Cheers,
Marius
Ok I just did it, it's now updating. I can play but after 5 minutes the player starts to stotter and stops playing.
This is how the menu looks like, it's in a weird alphabetic order:
(http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a582/SkynetLego/Bryston/DSC_0086_zpshcrf555d.jpg) (http://s1285.photobucket.com/user/SkynetLego/media/Bryston/DSC_0086_zpshcrf555d.jpg.html)
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Not sure, but it sounds you don't let the BDP finish updating before you start playing and using the MM interface.
I tried this the other night but in the morning it was still updating (so after 8 hours it was still not finished).
But I will do the following this evening:
- 1) Empty the cache
- 2) I do a reset DB without any USB HDD connected to it.
- 3) Save and restart, still without any USB HDD connected to the BDP-1.
- 4) Connect the self powered HDD, go to sleep and see what happend the next morning.
I let you know tommorow.
Already thanks.
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seems to be the right order ;)
be sure to disable the auto update on startup option. It will require an extra click for updating the database manually, but it will make the BDP startup quicker, and prevent an automatic update of anything causing issues before you realize you have them in the first place :( . Sounds a little cryptic maybe. Just a matter of being in control rather than handing it over...
Cheers,
Marius
I tried this the other night but in the morning it was still updating (so after 8 hours it was still not finished).
But I will do the following this evening:
- 1) Empty the cache
- 2) I do a reset DB without any USB HDD connected to it.
- 3) Save and restart, still without any USB HDD connected to the BDP-1.
- 4) Connect the self powered HDD, go to sleep and see what happend the next morning.
I let you know tommorow.
Already thanks.
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I tried this the other night but in the morning it was still updating (so after 8 hours it was still not finished).
But I will do the following this evening:
- 1) Empty the cache
- 2) I do a reset DB without any USB HDD connected to it.
- 3) Save and restart, still without any USB HDD connected to the BDP-1.
- 4) Connect the self powered HDD, go to sleep and see what happend the next morning.
I let you know tommorow.
Already thanks.
Sorry, I don't see the point of resetting, saving, and restarting, if there's nothing attached externally. Does MM have a permanent memory that can op without attachments? (I use Loony Loon for perfectly smooth ops).
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Sorry, I don't see the point of resetting, saving, and restarting, if there's nothing attached externally. Does MM have a permanent memory that can op without attachments? (I use Loony Loon for perfectly smooth ops).
depends on where you're coming from, but when its from a not working bdp1, a corrupt DB, or a different DB form a previous owner/user, as it seems to be the case here, it is best to be sure you start with a fresh and empty BDP/DB.
remnants of old allover the place, so deleting, saving and updating to an empty BDP seems best.
Marius
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Got it. Thx.
Unplugging the power cord should do it. Whenever I have a power failure here, I have to restart and it reloads everything into DB. Takes a while with 2 powered USB drives!
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Got it. Thx.
Unplugging the power cord should do it. Whenever I have a power failure here, I have to restart and it reloads everything into DB. Takes a while with 2 powered USB drives!
Best example for the need to disable the auto update feature I mentioned above... no reason to reload/update the entire dB after a power failure is there?
Cheers Marius
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Cutting out the power would, I presume, erase the memory and require a reboot/update. As another example, whenever I disconnect a portable drive to add new music from my desktop, I power down first, detach, and then power up AFTER the updated drive is reattached. If I try this without powering down to standby, it will not recognize the reattached drive until I reboot the power.
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Cutting out the power would, I presume, erase the memory and require a reboot/update. As another example, whenever I disconnect a portable drive to add new music from my desktop, I power down first, detach, and then power up AFTER the updated drive is reattached. If I try this without powering down to standby, it will not recognize the reattached drive until I reboot the power.
as always, ymmv.
cutting power might erase ram, but wont necessarily require a full update of all drives attached.
i never disconnect drives for adding music, always do that over the network. (unless were talking full db transfers, or changing HDD's etc etc)
And, as for a special request of yours truly and many others, Chris added the separate folder update option a long time ago, so you won't have to update the full db for a single album :thumb: :thumb:
since the BDP is a computer essentially, your way of handling usb drives seems the only appropriate way indeed. Or you could eject them in the drives settings. I think :?
Anyways, careful handling is always time well spent.
Cheerio,
Marius
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Finally it works. I have done a lot of things. I renamed the HDD and I deleted all the vob files on it (don't know why they where on it but they where, music movies)
I did all the steps I told you to do and now it's working.
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A question for the TIDAL / BDP-1 users. I find it very slow to get started - as long as 10minutes. Once started it is better but still sluggish.
My network performance is generally very good - sufficient to drive HD TV and multiple devices.
Is this a function of the BDP-1 or are there tips to improve.
Thanks
Terry
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Finally it works. I have done a lot of things. I renamed the HDD and I deleted all the vob files on it (don't know why they where on it but they where, music movies)
I did all the steps I told you to do and now it's working.
Cool. Now start enjoying and please let us in on your listening experience. Happy BDP-ing!
Cheers,
Marius
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Cool. Now start enjoying and please let us in on your listening experience. Happy BDP-ing!
Thanks.
It's sounds great. :thumb: :thumb:
It works fine, one little thing and that 's if I copy music over the network to the HDD that's connected to the BDP-1, the network connection is lossed after a while.
The BDP-1 is saying that it doesn't have an network anymore. The rest of my network stills works.
BUT the BDP-1 is the only device that is linked by a homeplug to the network and when I unplug it and plug it in again, everything works fine again.
So I don't know if it is the BDP-1 or the homeplug.
I don't do any copying anymore over the network to HDD in connected to the BDP-1.
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^ Is your unit on Moose?
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Is your unit on Moose?
Yes, it's playing mostly music when I'm doing this. But I also have tried it without playing music. Moose is always on I don't think you can turn this off?
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Yes, it's playing mostly music when I'm doing this. But I also have tried it without playing music. Moose is always on I don't think you can turn this off?
No, it's software. You can, of course, update it or even uninstall it :icon_twisted:
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Ok but how can I get the BDP-1 then to work? There must be some app/program to make the BDP-1 work?
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BUT the BDP-1 is the only device that is linked by a homeplug to the network and when I unplug it and plug it in again, everything works fine again.
IIRC, I've had that same problem with the homeplug system. That's the one where it plugs into the wall and uses the electrical wires?
If you have a spare Ethernet hub or switch around you could try plugging the Ethernet out from the homeplug into that and plug the BDP into the hub/switch. That could stabilize things a bit.
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I picked up a BDP-1 recently and absolutely love it. A music server that acts like a CD player is a novel experience for me.
I am sending it music from MinimServer (http://minimserver.com) and controlling it with Linn Kazoo (https://www.linn.co.uk/software) on my iPad with upmpdcli (https://www.lesbonscomptes.com/upmpdcli/upmpdcli.html) acting as a go-between for minimserver and Kazoo.
I do have one question. Is the front screen customizable/configurable? Right now it shows Artist on the first line and HTTP stuff on the second line. It''d be better if it could show Artist and Album.
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Ok but how can I get the BDP-1 then to work? There must be some app/program to make the BDP-1 work?
I must be misunderstanding you. The app that I use is MPad from iTunes app store. It's discontinued. Another one is Bryston's own interface from your desktop.
Get in touch with Chris Rice if you have any trouble with these.
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Yes, it's playing mostly music when I'm doing this. But I also have tried it without playing music. Moose is always on I don't think you can turn this off?
Manic Moose is the BDP's operating system. You cant turn this off. You can turn various option on or off within MM. the BDP is a server. You also need client software to command the server.
You can do that from a web browser connecting to the BDP (bryston-bdp-1.local or its ip address)
You can also do that through dedicated apps like Mpad/Mpod/Soundirok using the MPD transport, (widely considered having the best audio quality, free), using the Roon ready transport (considered having the best user interface, expensive, privacy considerations ) or several other apps using other transport services available in the MM settings options.
As always Your mileage may vary..
Hope this helps,
Marius
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I picked up a BDP-1 recently and absolutely love it. A music server that acts like a CD player is a novel experience for me.
I am sending it music from MinimServer (http://minimserver.com) and controlling it with Linn Kazoo (https://www.linn.co.uk/software) on my iPad with upmpdcli (https://www.lesbonscomptes.com/upmpdcli/upmpdcli.html) acting as a go-between for minimserver and Kazoo.
How did you set that up? Did you manually install upmpdcli on the BDP-1?
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How did you set that up? Did you manually install upmpdcli on the BDP-1?
I have a "home-made" NAS powered by an old MacBook Pro running linux. I installed upmpdcli and minim server on there. Although it doesn't matter where upmpdcli is running.
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I played some music off a thumb drive on my BDP-1. Nice! It also displayed artist/album correctly on the front panel. Wish I could configure it to do that for HTTP streams. No value to me that second line that says "HTTP".
I do have a question. How does one do a factory reset on a BDP-1? There's some cruft from the previous owner I'd like to clear out.
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I played some music off a thumb drive on my BDP-1. Nice! It also displayed artist/album correctly on the front panel. Wish I could configure it to do that for HTTP streams. No value to me that second line that says "HTTP".
I do have a question. How does one do a factory reset on a BDP-1? There's some cruft from the previous owner I'd like to clear out.
Go into the "System" tab and click on "Reset To Factory". That's it.
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I played some music off a thumb drive on my BDP-1. Nice! It also displayed artist/album correctly on the front panel. Wish I could configure it to do that for HTTP streams. No value to me that second line that says "HTTP".
I do have a question. How does one do a factory reset on a BDP-1? There's some cruft from the previous owner I'd like to clear out.
Honestly, it's how the BDP-1 sounds best.
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Honestly, it's how the BDP-1 sounds best.
I was listening to Glenn Gould's 1982 Goldberg Variations needledropped from LP. Sounded fabulous!
Even over the network the BDP-1 bests my turntable (admittedly, my preamp digitizes everything so...).
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I was listening to Glenn Gould's 1982 Goldberg Variations needledropped from LP. Sounded fabulous!
Even over the network the BDP-1 bests my turntable (admittedly, my preamp digitizes everything so...).
I do that, as well. I have a Bel Canto DAC/digital pre-amp that I plug in the analog output from my phono stage; it's for convenience, but I wonder if I am losing something not directly cabling into my headphone amp.
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So, what are we using now to control a bdp with an ipad or iphone? Now that Mpad is no longer updated or useable.
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I use Manic Moose on iPad. I'm not into the loop of what new apps are good these days.
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I use Manic Moose on iPad. I'm not into the loop of what new apps are good these days.
Thanks, i guess for $7.00 there is Soundirok at the App store.
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Thanks, i guess for $7.00 there is Soundirok at the App store.
Thanks. I've seen it mentioned here frequently. I'll look into it if I move the BDP-1 to my main rig. Right now the BDP-1 is used on the desktop rig, so I have an iMac in front of me to use Manic Moose.
The only problem I have is that I cannot add more than 300 songs to the list. I tried changing it from the settings in Manic Moose and altering the MPD Version number, but it does nothing and remains at 300. The capacity of 300 isn't a big deal, but rather which 300 gets added. For example, I have a few compilation playlists of over 800 and whenever I click add to the playlist, it will always add the first 300. If I wanted to automatically add tracks 301-600, there isn't a way I am aware of. I can only add them manually one at a time.
If anyone at Bryston has a solution, that'd be helpful.
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you should make sure you have the newest firmware installed, some previous releases have broken this feature in the past, as far as I am aware S2.32 and S2.33 are working correctly
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Hi James & Bryston team,
My BDP-1 (s/n 221) with software R02.0 2010-10-19 keeps getting Error 09 / 190.
Please help.
Thank you,
Klao
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Hi James & Bryston team,
My BDP-1 (s/n 221) with software R02.0 2010-10-19 keeps getting Error 09 / 190.
Please help.
Thank you,
Klao
Hi Klao
09 means the system board is not responding - it would need to be serviced.
james
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Hi Klao
09 means the system board is not responding - it would need to be serviced.
james
:cry:
Thanks, James.
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Bryston BDP-1 + Tidal app
I have subscribed to Tidal and am presently surprised by the choice and sound quality offered. Probably I am doing something incorrectly with the Bryston's Tidal app, admittedly still in its Beta version. When I choose search in order to see an overview of available albums, such as, say, Eric Clapton or similar, I always get exactly 10 albums shown, not a single more. When I search through the Tidal app on my Nexus 10, I easily and almost instantly get tens and tens available albums. However, I definitely prefer to use MPD and the Tidal app in Bryston and, not the BDP-1 set as DLNA renderer. What am I doing wrong?
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Perhaps I should add that I have the newest firmware S2.32 installed.
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Perhaps I should add that I have the newest firmware S2.32 installed.
There should be an icon to load all the albums (a plus)
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Yes, of course, the icon is there but clicking on it produces no effect - I have only ten items in each playlist, artists, albums and tracks sections and pressing on 'show all' does not change anything in either of them
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Yes, of course, the icon is there but clicking on it produces no effect - I have only ten items in each playlist, artists, albums and tracks sections and pressing on 'show all' does not change anything in either of them
It appears to be functional, you could place the bdp into service mode and email me the service id. which browser/device are you using with the BDP?
Cheers,
Chris
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Hi Chris,
I found the way how to make it work. Sorry for bothering you and thank you.
M.
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Hi,
I am now considering adding Tidal as a streaming solution to the BDP-1. I have conducted some testing over the weekend and here's my results and queries.
I have tried Tidal Hifi using Shairplay, Shairport and the Tidal application, all available from the BDP-1 upgraded at 2.34. Playback went through a BDA-1. :D
On the UI perspective, I used an iPhone and an iPad to control the Tidal app. The iPhone is less than ideal to perform this task as the UI is very limited. iPad is easier to use. Native Tidal app used over Shairplay and Shaiport provides more eye candies than the app available from the BDP-1 app menu but something I can live with.
Using the Shairplay and Shairport player from the BDP-1 gave some promising results but none of the songs played without some kind of breaks during playback. There's also some buffering happening between the songs. I suspected my network speed and quality but had to rule it out after trying the Tidal app directly from the BDP-1. The sound quality (SQ) is very good but a bit on the thin side, grainy and less convincing than the regular CD or MPD ripped file. This statement must be revisited as I don't have any reference of the masters dropped on Tidal.
When Tidal is used directly from the BSP-1 app menu, the first song seems buffered, at least part of it, prior to playback. SQ seems better than Shairplay or Shairport. One way of describing it will be more solid. Another statement that needs to be revisited. I never encountered any choppyness or breakout during a song playback. End of song #1 , the BDP-1 is then buffering the second song. A few seconds delay and than song# 2 is playing flawlessly. The gap issue is a real annoyance when listening to albums like Dark side of the moon and other...
I read on the web that app like Roon will overcome the issue. Roon is a pricey solution as I also have to add a PC, MAC or a NAS to the hifi kit. My original decision on acquiring the BDP-1 and BDA-1 was specifically based on the requirement of NOT having additional PC or MAC as part of the file playback solution. I am perfectly fine with leaving an HDD or SSD connected to the BDP- USB port. will go for a NAS if I have no choice.
I understand that the BDP-1 went through a lot of f/w iterations over the years and the product really evolved as a music server platform. Designed to playback music files at first, it was then capable of playing files from a NAS environment and now the web streaming environment.
My question today is, will it be possible for the BDP-1 to playback gapless songs from the Tidal app in the near future? If not, is it a limitation issue that can be overcome with a BDP2 or would required the use such as Roon and NAS?
Thanks!
Daniel
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Hi Daniel,
The BDP-1 uses a different TIDAL queuing system from the BDP-2,3 and Pi due to the limited amount of memory available and although the gapless playback was broken for a time in those units it has been fixed and are now gapless (there was some discussion on the manic moose thread from a few months ago).
We are also currently developing and about to release (as a testing build) TIDAL integration into the the Media Players Artist view which uses MPD, not sure how well the BDP-1 will fair though.
Cheers,
Chris
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Chris:
I'm using a Bluesound Node in the headphone system and would like to use the BDP as a NAS. The drives in the BDP show as share folders so it seems like it should work. Would it be OK to copy the M3U playlists from the USER / playlists folder to one of the attached drives so the Node can index them?
Rich
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Chris:
I'm using a Bluesound Node in the headphone system and would like to use the BDP as a NAS. The drives in the BDP show as share folders so it seems like it should work. Would it be OK to copy the M3U playlists from the USER / playlists folder to one of the attached drives so the Node can index them?
Rich
I've never tried it, but i see no reason why it would be a problem
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Chris:
Copied the M3U playlists to the internal drive % Updated. The Node did not index them. Maybe because when I look at them in MM they are RED. :?: The Node sees the album covers ( which are also red ) due to the fact that the embedded tag art is what Bluesound uses.
Rich
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I think this last update has screwed me.
I use Linn Kazoo to control MPD on the BDP-1. Before the last update, I could hit stop on the remote, do some stuff, then hit play and the last song being played would be restarted.
Since the update, when I hit stop the playlist gets cleared <grrr>. Is there anything in that update that would explain this new, undesirable, behavior?
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Please correct me if I am wrong:
BDP-1 was not able to stream Tidal natively (actually no streaming services at all before) but now it can after the FW upgrade?
Although BDP-1 can stream Tidal, it has stability issues because of limited amount of memory?
I will ONLY use the BDP-1 for Tidal-HIFI streaming. Would this eliminate the limited memory issue since I will not use other sources?
Also, my DAC does not have USB and BNC. Is using RCA/BNC adapter would degrade the sound in anyway?
Thanks.
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I think this last update has screwed me.
I use Linn Kazoo to control MPD on the BDP-1. Before the last update, I could hit stop on the remote, do some stuff, then hit play and the last song being played would be restarted.
Since the update, when I hit stop the playlist gets cleared <grrr>. Is there anything in that update that would explain this new, undesirable, behavior?
in the most recent update no, but the BDP is suppose to clear its playlist if the stop command is given while the player is stopped, but that's been around for years i think.
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Please correct me if I am wrong:
BDP-1 was not able to stream Tidal natively (actually no streaming services at all before) but now it can after the FW upgrade?
Although BDP-1 can stream Tidal, it has stability issues because of limited amount of memory?
I will ONLY use the BDP-1 for Tidal-HIFI streaming. Would this eliminate the limited memory issue since I will not use other sources?
Also, my DAC does not have USB and BNC. Is using RCA/BNC adapter would degrade the sound in anyway?
Thanks.
In a very limited fashion, lossy works well and i was using my BDP-1 for about a month testings the latest beta's (S2.35) which includes integrating TIDAL into the media player interface. The new method of streaming is very picky on the lossless setting, but i found it worked really will with the BDP-1. There are couple of things that need to be met, my music library was only 2000 songs (very small), my internet connection isn't half bad for the country(40x15) and i'm the only one using it.
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in the most recent update no, but the BDP is suppose to clear its playlist if the stop command is given while the player is stopped, but that's been around for years i think.
Thanks for the reply! So it must be that a "double stop" was being sent.
The player has returned to stopping and not clearing the list.
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Just received Gary Dayton's e-mail about the new Moose update for BDP-x. Quoting:
"Now we have a universal tool to scan your network and generate links for every BDP on your network "
Does this mean Bryston can potentially "see" all other devices (desktops, laptops, etc) on my home network while I use my BDP-1/-2?
Privacy issues.... :duh: :scratch:
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Just received Gary Dayton's e-mail about the new Moose update for BDP-x. Quoting:
"Now we have a universal tool to scan your network and generate links for every BDP on your network "
Does this mean Bryston can potentially "see" all other devices (desktops, laptops, etc) on my home network while I use my BDP-1/-2?
Privacy issues.... :duh: :scratch:
No, we simply log when BDP's checks for firmware updates and use these logs to figure which units are yours when you use mybryston.com
Also if your that concerned about privacy you may want to consider cancelling your internet subscription and phones data plan.
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^ Thanks. I have a good firewall against viruses etc., so won't be cancelling anything.
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Just received Gary Dayton's e-mail about the new Moose update for BDP-x.
I too received this e-mail. After updating to 2.36, which seemed to be successful, after a next boot i received a error message 09. Also after trying to boot several times, after disconnecting a flashdrive i used as scratch drive, the error persisted. I see that my BDA-2 initially got a 48k LOCK so Linux seems to be starting. What to do? My system had 2.34 before the update and everything worked fine!
Hope to hear from you soon!
Regards, Gerard
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I too received this e-mail. After updating to 2.36, which seemed to be successful, after a next boot i received a error message 09. Also after trying to boot several times, after disconnecting a flashdrive i used as scratch drive, the error persisted. I see that my BDA-2 initially got a 48k LOCK so Linux seems to be starting. What to do? My system had 2.34 before the update and everything worked fine!
Hope to hear from you soon!
Regards, Gerard
Hi
Try disconnecting all drives then boot up.
james
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Hi
Try disconnecting all drives then boot up.
james
Thank you for quick reply. I have a 1TB SSD disk installed internally. Should i disconnect that too?
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that's a new one, firewall against viruses ;)
Still, the new my.bryston.com relies on an open internet connection, and my VPN causes it to not work, since my IP is replaced and thus hidden? Opening up the VPN is something i'm hesitant to do, especially if it's allowing external parties to browse my LAN....
http://support.bryston.com/site/?firmware (http://support.bryston.com/site/?firmware) wil remain in my favorites list, for checking for updates. Or I let the BDP itself have a look. Unless one has the router use a vpn connection, the BDP is on an open line of course. Maybe Chris could add the option of using a VPN connection?
Cheers,
Marius
^ Thanks. I have a good firewall against viruses etc., so won't be cancelling anything.
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Hi
Try disconnecting all drives then boot up.
james
After disconnecting USB-drive I also opened my BDP-2 and disconnected the internal SSD too. But again error code 09. My display shows this:
BDP2 000246 ERROR 09
R03.0 2012-11-27 166
What to do next?
Regards, Gerard
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Gerard: I'm sorry to hear of your troubles. I haven't (don't plan to) "upgraded" to the latest version. On my BDP-1, I resisted upping Loony Loon for 5 yrs. As long as it worked, .....I hope you get this resolved. As I'm not into cover art and the trimmings, I'm very happy with the SQ of playback as is.
Marius: I know, firewall against viruses is a misnomer. :lol:
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Thanks Pete for your compassion. I normally use MPad/Mpod but now it is discontinued at the next iOS release i thought i give MM2.36 a try. Also to get rid of the error message that BDP-2 has no internet connection caused by upgrading to MM2.34.... If i knew this would happen i never would have started with the last 2 update cycles. :duh:
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After disconnecting USB-drive I also opened my BDP-2 and disconnected the internal SSD too. But again error code 09. My display shows this:
BDP2 000246 ERROR 09
R03.0 2012-11-27 166
What to do next?
Regards, Gerard
Hi Gerard,
Does your BDP have the original ESI Juli@ audio device (white circuit board) or the new Bryston IAD? Is the DAC receiving signal (lock) at any point before the error 09 message appears?
Chris
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Yes I have the new IAD and yes my BDA-2 receive the 48k LOCK. So Linux is started. I think it can only be the CF that is corrupted. But i do not know what this caused this, just by upgrading.....
One thing i noticed though: directly after the (succesful) update my BDP-2 was OK and i wanted to activate Music Scraper and i got the message: "To enable Bryston API user space must use ext, Check Disk Information".
I did shut-down my BDP-2 and after removal of my Scratch USB stick (i thought this was the culprit), i rebooted and then the error 09 occurred....
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Hi Chris, should i re-flash my CF-card with the file "firmware20140430.bin" i used previously for upgrading to MM (but then through update firmware within BDP-2)?
Can i use the older Win32DiskImager for that on my Windows 10 computer?
And how can i change the fat32 format to ext needed for Bryston API user space to work?
Hope to hear from you soon!
Regards, Gerard
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you use win disk imager, but with this file after its been unzipped
http://vps96186.vps.ovh.ca/files/manicmoose/manicmoose.img.zip
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Thanks, i will try to re-flash with your img file.
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Hi Chris, I re-flashed the CF-card with the manicmoose.img. Insert it again and left my internal SSD disconnected.
But again the ERROR 09. The number below this errorcode is now 172 instead of 166, whatever that means.
I'am becoming a little desperate now. :wtf: is the matter here?????? :bawl:
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Might be worth checking the serial cable if you havn't already. Otherwise the unit might require servicing, mike (mpickett@bryston.com) can setup the RMA.
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I checked all cables and i think they are fine. It is unlikely that a cable is the cause. The unit worked fine for months with MM 2.34. I also did not open the unit for months so why should a cable now create problems!!!
Chris, of course I thank you for your quick help, but I am very disappointed that an update procedure can cause the unit to malfunction and that it even requires servicing!!! :icon_surprised: :?
I live in the Netherlands, Europe. So it will take a while to send it to Bryston. I find it difficult to accept that I will not be able to play music from my SSD for weeks and perhaps more than a month because of a failed software update!!! :thumbdown:
Do I have to send an email to Mike to start the procedure?
Regards, Gerard
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I live in the Netherlands, Europe.
I also live in the Netherlands, just send it to Mafico and maybe you can bring it yourself (they are in Bergschenhoek, Zuid Holland, dat is bij Rotterdam). My SP2 was out of order and they repaired it within a week, but I brought and picked it up myself.
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I also live in the Netherlands, just send it to Mafico and maybe you can bring it yourself (they are in Bergschenhoek, Zuid Holland, dat is bij Rotterdam). My SP2 was out of order and they repaired it within a week, but I brought and picked it up myself.
Hi thanks for trying to reassure me. But I live in Alkmaar, that's long way from Mafico. I had to take my BDA-2 once for service years ago and it took 3 weeks to get it returned...
But, yeah, shit happens, that's life :sad: I hope Bryston will help me promptly...
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Hi thanks for trying to reassure me. But I live in Alkmaar, that's long way from Mafico. I had to take my BDA-2 once for service years ago and it took 3 weeks to get it returned...
But, yeah, shit happens, that's life :sad: I hope Bryston will help me promptly...
Well, what can we say. I recognize your sentiments about the past.
But since Hein van der Klaauw took charge of Bryston at Mafico's thing have changed much for the better. Give him a call (though he's very occupied with this weekends X-fi show in Veldhoven) and im sure you'll be offered wonderful service!
Also, never underestimate Chris, and always follow his suggestions. Even if you don't like or understand it, if he says to check the serial cable, do so. You never know why Chris might find it reasonable to suspect it being the culprit for your issue...
Cheers, (also from the Netherlands ;) )
Marius
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Nice to see such a supportive community here on this thread, and in friendly Netherlands too, not surprised. I hope Gerard can have his unit fixed soon. As for Chris.....he helped me quite a while back on more than one occasion, by very fast email interactions, to get my BDP up and running for iPad control etc. Nothing like what Gerard is going thru, but still needed help and Chris did the job for me.
cheers
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Hein van der Klaauw
He is the man. :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
He did a lot for me when I ordered the BDP-3 and BDA-3. He gave me a BDP-1 and BDA-2 for the time I had to wait. I can tell you I had to wait a few months (yeah an early adapter ;-) ), but no problem for them at Mafico :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
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Thanks guys for all your support! By your comments I feel less alone out here without my music... :wink:
Also nice to see all you Bryston users in the Netherlands. I thought i was almost the only one here with just one dealer for the whole country that used to be not very 2 channel-audio minded....
I know Chris is also very supportive, so no complaints here! I tried everything he suggested, and more, at least three times to get the BDP-2 working again but the damned thing just comes back with the Error 9 message....
I am waiting for Mike Prickett to answer my mail for a RMA.
I will try to contact Hein van der Klaauw (he is new to me, was about 4 years ago I was last at Mafico) and see what can be done. I also go to the X-fi audio show in Veldhoven on Sunday, so perhaps i will meet him there!
Thanks guys again for your support!
Kind regards, Gerard
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Might be worth checking the serial cable if you havn't already. Otherwise the unit might require servicing, mike (mpickett@bryston.com) can setup the RMA.
Chris, do you know if Mike is on holiday or otherwise not available? I have send him several messages but until now no responds.
Hope to hear from you.
Regard, Gerard
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Reply to Gerard's problem:
Some time back, I had a similar problem after a firmware update on my BDP2.
I tried many things and eventually found that the system would not boot with any disks (either internal or external) connected. Disconnecting the external and internal disks allowed the BDP to boot. I had to get it to clear the database and run it's indexing to completion. Once it was happy booting and rebooting, I could re-connect the disks and it then behaved.
I think what was happening is that the boot process was taking too long and the monitoring board had decided there was a problem, shutdown the processor and displayed the error message. Removing the disks shortened the boot time, getting in before the monitor intervened.
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Reply to Gerard's problem:
Some time back, I had a similar problem after a firmware update on my BDP2.
I tried many things and eventually found that the system would not boot with any disks (either internal or external) connected. Disconnecting the external and internal disks allowed the BDP to boot. I had to get it to clear the database and run it's indexing to completion. Once it was happy booting and rebooting, I could re-connect the disks and it then behaved.
I think what was happening is that the boot process was taking too long and the monitoring board had decided there was a problem, shutdown the processor and displayed the error message. Removing the disks shortened the boot time, getting in before the monitor intervened.
Thanks for you suggestion. Indeed James also suggested that I should disconnect all drivers. I did remove both the internal SSD and flashdrive I used for scratch drive. But even without any disk the error 09 stayed, so the boot process could not be completed...
I returned my BDP-2 to the distributor in the Netherlands (Mafico) today.
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Update on the BDP-2 malfunction after MM update:
Last Sunday I visited the X-fi audio show in Veldhoven and the distributor Mafico was also present with an all Bryston demo. Sounded very good! :thumb:
I took my broken BDP-2 with me and Hein van der Klaauw of Mafico was so kind to take the unit after the show with him to Mafico for servicing! They tested it Tuesday and found out that there was a malfunction of the motherboard! Cause unknown! Also no further specifics what the defect was, but after installing a complete new motherboard the unit worked again. Everything was tested next day and night and all worked well! I hope to have it returned around this weekend!
So it remains a mystery how this is related to the MM update. Perhaps it was just a coincidence that the malfunction of the system board occurred right after the update??? How knows. For me, I still do not understand how the motherboard was broken spontaneously. Little bit worried if this could happen again...
My unit is about 4 years old and Mafico have repaired it under warranty so luckily no extra costs for me! I’m grateful for the way Hein of Mafico has handled and solved the problem! Thumbs up! :thumb: :thankyou:
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Gerard, That's great news, glad you are satisfied. It is indeed bizarre that the MB failure occurred right after the update. What version of MM is your BDP-2 on right now? the orig version before update?
cheers
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Software updates don't physically break motherboards. If it needed a new motherboard, I'd call that a fluke.
It IS possible that the software update resulted in using a portion of the RAM that wasn't used before, where a flaw already existed.
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I’m grateful for the way Hein of Mafico has handled and solved the problem! Thumbs up! :thumb: :thankyou:
I told you :thumb:
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Hi,
I’m using BDP-II with new Bryston IAD,together with BDA-3 & Denon DCD SX-1. However after I’ve updated the latest firmware on the early October, I found the the Denon SX-1 no longer support DSD files played by BDP-2（USB Connection）. While the BDA-3 remains normal; on the other hand I’ve tried to connect Denon DCD DX-1 with other DSD Capable Media Players as well as Computer (JRiver), the Denon DCD SX-1 remains normal with DSD Playback.
That’s why I came to the conclusion that there is something wrong with the latest BDP-2 firmware.
What can I do? Or is there a newer BDP-2 firmware to solve this issue?
Please let me know...
Thanks for your concerns...
Peter Ip
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=169478)
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You don't have the checkbox next to your denon checked to indicate that its DSD capable. Once checked and saved you should see DSD enabled next to it like you do with the bda-3.
Chris
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Thanks for your fast response and help...
The audio setting has changed for unknown reason, but it works now...
Thanks!
Peter
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Hi guys
I'm having a problem with my bdp1 saving playlists. It saves them but sometimes just for one day sometimes for several days
Just started doing this a week ago. I started making small temporary lists just to see if it would save them, didn't work. I do shut it off every night. I've tried refreshing cache, update database, unplugging power. All my music is there and accessible just won't save a playlist
Any suggestions would be appreciated
Thanks
Robin
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Hi guys
I'm having a problem with my bdp1 saving playlists. It saves them but sometimes just for one day sometimes for several days
Just started doing this a week ago. I started making small temporary lists just to see if it would save them, didn't work. I do shut it off every night. I've tried refreshing cache, update database, unplugging power. All my music is there and accessible just won't save a playlist
Any suggestions would be appreciated
Thanks
Robin
Which version of the firmware is installed on the BDP? Can you check Disk Information to see what file system the user partition is using, fat or ext?
Chris
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hi Chris
s1.75 2014-05-01
NTFS I think my drives used to be fat 32
I did some backing up of drives and my computer apparently defaulted to NTFS and it doesn't give me an option of fat 32
it seems to be losing files and playlists each time I update or add music files
thanks
Robin
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You could try a factory reset, but the loony loon user space isn't as resilient as the one found in manic moose. Upgrading to manic moose would be the better option, I'll leave a link at the bottom of the page.
http://support.bryston.com/downloads/BDP/BDP%20Manic%20Moose%20Update.pdf
Chris
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hi Chris - curious of the approximate date of the firmware update - at the link above? TJ
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thanks Chris
if I do the update will I still be able to use mpad ?
Robin
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hi Chris - curious of the approximate date of the firmware update - at the link above? TJ
Not really sure what your asking, the link above describes installing manic moose. The latest official release of manic moose is S2.36 and was released last month.
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thanks Chris
if I do the update will I still be able to use mpad ?
Robin
Updating the bdp's zfirmware has no effect on mpad.
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Not really sure what your asking, the link above describes installing manic moose. The latest official release of manic moose is S2.36 and was released last month.
Thanks Chris.
TJ
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Hi Chris
I.ve been trying to download the manic moose update for my bdp1 all morning
I keep getting a firmware update failure
it looks like when I save the firmware link you posted all I'm getting is the instructions on how to do it
I can open it and look at the files but can't save it anywhere
sorry .... not much of a computer guy
Robin
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Hello everyone!
Any help with my issue is greatly appreciated.
After a power outage in my area, my trusty and beloved BDP-1 (serial 000125) refuses to boot and only produces the 09 error code.
The player syncs with the BDA-1 for a while during each boot process.
There are no local drives - only Ethernet connection - and the software is (or was before the incident) a recent version of MM.
One strange thing is the the SW version is now shown as 2010-10-19 which I believe was the very first version available.
The serial cable has been cleaned and reinstalled, and all other cables and also the flash card have been checked for looseness.
Are there any ideas about what I can do next to get it going?
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Hello everyone!
Any help with my issue is greatly appreciated.
After a power outage in my area, my trusty and beloved BDP-1 (serial 000125) refuses to boot and only produces the 09 error code.
The player syncs with the BDA-1 for a while during each boot process.
There are no local drives - only Ethernet connection - and the software is (or was before the incident) a recent version of MM.
One strange thing is the the SW version is now shown as 2010-10-19 which I believe was the very first version available.
The serial cable has been cleaned and reinstalled, and all other cables and also the flash card have been checked for looseness.
Are there any ideas about what I can do next to get it going?
The temporary lock between the DAC and the Player would indicate that the Linux system and mainboard are functioning correctly. Assuming you've checked the correct cable (grey ribbon cable) then its not likely said cable either and either the serial has failed on the mainboard or the serial to uart chip has failed. I'd recommend getting in contact with us to have the unit serviced, you can contact via phone or email.
http://bryston.com/pages/contact.html
Chris
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Great, will do!
Thank you Chris.
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hi chris - is it possible to switch between MPD and Roon (in the BDP1) without going into "Services" to manually toggle?
thanks!
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hi chris - is it possible to switch between MPD and Roon (in the BDP1) without going into "Services" to manually toggle?
thanks!
+1
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(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=174142)
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I don't know what the other person meant. I was thinking from the BDP-1's display itself.
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thanks Chris. I see that drop down..with the option of playing Roon or MPD.
But, is it possible to switch between Roon and MPD without manually instructing the BDP to change modes? So....one could listen to Roon...then play a track from MPD seamlessly?
I recall one time last year or so...i was able to do this. But maybe i was dreaming...? :scratch:
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thanks Chris. I see that drop down..with the option of playing Roon or MPD.
But, is it possible to switch between Roon and MPD without manually instructing the BDP to change modes? So....one could listen to Roon...then play a track from MPD seamlessly?
I recall one time last year or so...i was able to do this. But maybe i was dreaming...? :scratch:
Hi
I will let Chris answer but because they are totally different operating systems (MPD and RAAT) I do not think that is possible. :scratch:
james
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thanks JT
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...i updated my BDP-1 to the latest firmware. it now seems to take only 300 titles as a maximum. before i did the update i could easily load 1000 of songs in a playlist.
anyone any idea?
thanks,
al.
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...i updated my BDP-1 to the latest firmware. it now seems to take only 300 titles as a maximum. before i did the update i could easily load 1000 of songs in a playlist.
anyone any idea?
thanks,
al.
Hi Al
There is a setting on the Dashboard where you type in the number of songs you want in a playlist. Remember to reboot after you change the setting.
james
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...thanks, James. i knew that i was doing wrong something :thumb:
al.
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hi, James or Chris or anyone who knows...
my BDP-1 plays absolutely nothing anymore?!? i just tried a few different usb sticks yesterday and the BDP stopped to accept them?! turned the unit on and off with no results.
no access via laptop or iphone7 as well.
helpless here...
al.
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hi, James or Chris or anyone who knows...
my BDP-1 plays absolutely nothing anymore?!? i just tried a few different usb sticks yesterday and the BDP stopped to accept them?! turned the unit on and off with no results.
no access via laptop or iphone7 as well.
helpless here...
al.
...anyone?
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...anyone?
Hi
Its a Chris question but try Factory Reset and see if that helps.
james
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hi, James or Chris or anyone who knows...
my BDP-1 plays absolutely nothing anymore?!? i just tried a few different usb sticks yesterday and the BDP stopped to accept them?! turned the unit on and off with no results.
no access via laptop or iphone7 as well.
helpless here...
al.
Does the front of the bdp show the BDP’s network interface as being offline?
http://support.bryston.com/downloads/BDP/Manic%20Moose%20Manual.pdf
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hi, Chris!
not really sure what you mean...but in either case - what should i do?
thanks,
al.
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...Chris, i disconnected the lan cable from the player. with good results as it started to play :D
but when i plugged the cable back in and tried to get access via iphone...it stopped again to play :scratch:
al.
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hi, Chris!
not really sure what you mean...but in either case - what should i do?
thanks,
al.
Is the manual I linked above unclear?
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Is the manual I linked above unclear?
...maybe i should read it again.
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Chris,
the IP adress is gone :o
instead the display shows the following:
Bryston BDP-1
eth0 00:0d:b9:0d:d5:e8
still no access via iphone and/or laptop
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Chris,
the IP adress is gone :o
instead the display shows the following:
Bryston BDP-1
eth0 00:0d:b9:0d:d5:e8
still no access via iphone and/or laptop
Hi Al
It sounds like you are not connected to the network. Will let Chris wade in.
james
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Chris,
the IP adress is gone :o
instead the display shows the following:
Bryston BDP-1
eth0 00:0d:b9:0d:d5:e8
still no access via iphone and/or laptop
please push the down arrow button, it should either declare eth0 as offline or give you an ip address.
Chris
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you are correct, Chris. by pushing the arrow button down it says eth0 offline.
i should check the ethernet connection, right?? :icon_lol:
al.
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Yes, there should be two lit LED's, one on either side of the Ethernet cable on the back of the BDP.
Chris
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...ok, BDP-1 is working fine again.
thank you Chris and James. Bryston's customer service is great! what a company!! :thumb:
al.
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I've been trying to get Tidal working again on my BDP1 with little success. There seem to be various ways of accessing, none us which are working satisfactorily for me:
in the Tidal application if I open an album I can play an individual track OK (after a long wait) but the play button which I presume is for the whole album at foot of screen does nothing.
In Media Player Artist view, I get Tidal albums when I search, but each track only plays for 30s (I am logged in OK)
At the foot of the right hand pane in the main media player screen there is a Tidal option, it very neatly displays my Tidal favourites, but again does nothing if I hit "+" to add selection to playlist.
Am I doing something stupidly wrong, or is the BDP1 not really compatible with Tidal?
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Please place the bdp into service mode and email me the service id.
http://support.bryston.com/downloads/BDP/Manic%20Moose%20Manual.pdf
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Please place the bdp into service mode and email me the service id.
http://support.bryston.com/downloads/BDP/Manic%20Moose%20Manual.pdf
Thanks, but I reverted to 2.36 stable and it seems Ok now. Is the combo of 2.37 and Tidal to be avoided on BDP1?
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Where you using the TIDAL app found under applications or TIDAL within the Media Player? I've found TIDAL within media player to be the best experience so far on the BDP-1.
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Where you using the TIDAL app found under applications or TIDAL within the Media Player? I've found TIDAL within media player to be the best experience so far on the BDP-1.
With 2.37 I couldn't get anything Tidal to work remotely satisfactorily. With 2.36 I'd agree that Artist view under media player works better than the Tidal app. Is 2.37 not good with Tidal on BDP1? If so, a pity, as I liked some of the changes in 2.37.
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I havn’t experienced any issues with TIDAL playback using S2.37 on my BDP-1, atleast relative to the old TIDAL app anyways. Considering the BDP-1 never had streaming in mind, let alone lossless streaming and the limited hardware, I would say it works quite well. Lossy streaming should play without issue and lossless will sometimes have some stuttering at the beginning of playback. As far as I am aware this is combination of the limited hardware and if a network bottlenecks during initial buffering.
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I havn’t experienced any issues with TIDAL playback using S2.37 on my BDP-1, atleast relative to the old TIDAL app anyways. Considering the BDP-1 never had streaming in mind, let alone lossless streaming and the limited hardware, I would say it works quite well. Lossy streaming should play without issue and lossless will sometimes have some stuttering at the beginning of playback. As far as I am aware this is combination of the limited hardware and if a network bottlenecks during initial buffering.
I like 2.37 so I moved back to it from 2.36. At first all seemed well, but now I am back to the odd phenomenon, when using Tidal favourites within media player, that first track plays for c 30 secs then the second track for 10 secs then playback stops. Seems OK using the Tidal app though.
As far as I can see there are 3 options for Tidal replay on the BDP:
Use the app
Searching for Tidal content using Artist view
Using Tidal option in right hand pane of default view.
As a matter of interest, is the BDP doing something different in each of the above (i.e. do last 2 use MPD)?
In theory, I like the last option as it gives fast access to favourites, set up elsewhere.
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As an update, I tried 2.36 and 2.37 back to back with Tidal today.
In 2.36 Tidal seems to work fine both in the app and in media player artist view.
In 2.37 works OK in the app, but, in media player both via artist view and tidal favourites in default view, the first track of an album plays for c.30 secs, then jumps to second track which plays for c.10 secs then playback stops.
A pity as I really like the function of favourite tidal albums in default view (much quicker to navigate than in app).
It also looks to me that the Tidal catalogue number is no longer displayed in 2.37 playback.
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Recently I got a Meitner MA-1v2 DAC connected to my BDP-2. MA-1v2 is capable of max native DSD128.
In the Audio device screen of the BDP-2 I see: "USB DAC with XMOS xCORE U8" connected via my WW platinum 7 USB.
When I play DSD64 files to my DAC it is identified by Meitner DAC as a DXD352 format instead DSD64. Does this mean that the BDP-2 is converting the native DSD64 into PCM? How to let BDP-2 know that it can send native DSD?
Help appreciated!
Regards, Gerard
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Considering the BDP-1 never had streaming in mind, let alone lossless streaming and the limited hardware, I would say it works quite well.
I couldn't agree more with this. I've been using Roon/Tidal with my BDP-1 for about 2 years and the performance of the BDP-1 has been stellar. No major issues at all. Super impressed with how Bryston managed to adapt the BDP-1 to emerging streaming services. Great product.
T
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Recently I got a Meitner MA-1v2 DAC connected to my BDP-2. MA-1v2 is capable of max native DSD128.
In the Audio device screen of the BDP-2 I see: "USB DAC with XMOS xCORE U8" connected via my WW platinum 7 USB.
When I play DSD64 files to my DAC it is identified by Meitner DAC as a DXD352 format instead DSD64. Does this mean that the BDP-2 is converting the native DSD64 into PCM? How to let BDP-2 know that it can send native DSD?
Help appreciated!
Regards, Gerard
Its probably DSD wrapped in a PCM cover. Its still DSD. You can read about if you google it.
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Recently I got a Meitner MA-1v2 DAC connected to my BDP-2. MA-1v2 is capable of max native DSD128.
In the Audio device screen of the BDP-2 I see: "USB DAC with XMOS xCORE U8" connected via my WW platinum 7 USB.
When I play DSD64 files to my DAC it is identified by Meitner DAC as a DXD352 format instead DSD64. Does this mean that the BDP-2 is converting the native DSD64 into PCM? How to let BDP-2 know that it can send native DSD?
Help appreciated!
Regards, Gerard
please see the audio devices section of the manic moose manual on how to enable dsd
http://support.bryston.com/downloads/BDP/Manic%20Moose%20Manual.pdf
chris
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please see the audio devices section of the manic moose manual on how to enable dsd
http://support.bryston.com/downloads/BDP/Manic%20Moose%20Manual.pdf
chris
Thanks Chris, indeed i had not checked the box to enable DSD... :duh: Now it works fine and the DAC identifies the data as DSD64. And also DSD128 files are recognized! :thumb: Thanks again!
Regards, Gerard
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Thanks Chris, indeed i had not checked the box to enable DSD... :duh: Now it works fine and the DAC identifies the data as DSD64. And also DSD128 files are recognized! :thumb: Thanks again!
Regards, Gerard
Cool beans!
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Cool beans!
Glad I was wrong. :lol:
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Problem on BDP-II NAS (Synology DS-718+) Setup...
I recently purchased a Synology DS-718+, with HDD (10TB) placed on HDD1, HDD2 kept empty.
The HiRes Files were placed on “music” folder, then have about 20 sub-folders like HDtracks, Opus etc...
The HiRes Audio Files are behind the sub-folders.
When I go to NAS setup page, I find that after entering the correct Username & Password, errors occurred when I press “Next”.
The “Share” folder appears to be “1” instead of “music”, when I continue to press the sub-folder, it appears to be “Incorrect Credentials” & a message somewhat like “permission denies”, the BDP-II stop responds & got stuck on the NAS setup page.
May I know the reasons why & what can I do to make BDP-2 possible to read Synology NAS HiRes files?
Thanks...
PS:
I’m sure that all the setup of DS-718+ are correct. And I’ve successfully connect several NAS to BDP-II previously
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Are you selecting an the Synologies AFP or SMB file sharing service?
Chris
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Hi Chris,
SMB...
Devices found which are related to Synology NAS is SYNOLOGYDS718.local (SMB/AFP) & SYNOLOGYDS718 (SMB/AFP)
In fact I’ve been tried both...
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=179125)
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Hope U can help me resolve the issue...
Thanks...
Peter Ip
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You'll want to connect via SMB, have you tried connecting from your Mac or PC to the synology using file sharing?
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Sorry for I missed your message...
No problem on reading the files of Synology NAS connecting with PC as well as Mac...
And the Synology NAS appears on the network device column whenever it was “on”...
Moreover I’ve tried plenty of media apps/software, mostly easy connect with the Synology NAS.
Except BDP-II...
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In addition, I found that the BDP-II doesn’t skip to the next track after the current track.
I need to play track to track manually when playing an album or a playlist...
I don’t know when, but mostly these 3 days...
Really don’t know why...
:? :? :?
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In addition, I found that the BDP-II doesn’t skip to the next track after the current track.
I need to play track to track manually when playing an album or a playlist...
I don’t know when, but mostly these 3 days...
Really don’t know why...
:? :? :?
Reinstall your firmware version. That and rebooting normally solves these minor glitches.
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There is an option in the BDP-x accessible ONLY from the front panel that specifies that files are to be played SINGLE: ON/OFF. Somewhere in the BDP manual (I think near the end where it shows all the front panel controls) you can find out how to change it. Sorry, I can't be more specific, but I am on the road right now and can't check my own BDP or the manual.
BTW, I know about this option because Chris Rice told me how to fix it when I had the same problem last year. I can't guarantee that this is the cause of you issue, but my problem was similar to yours and changing this parameter resolved it.
Good luck.
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Pundamilla & gbaby,
Many Thanks...
I’ll try Pundamilla’s suggestion later...
If issue still exists, I’ll consider to reset the BDP-II to factory setting...
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There is an option in the BDP-x accessible ONLY from the front panel that specifies that files are to be played SINGLE: ON/OFF. Somewhere in the BDP manual (I think near the end where it shows all the front panel controls) you can find out how to change it. Sorry, I can't be more specific, but I am on the road right now and can't check my own BDP or the manual.
BTW, I know about this option because Chris Rice told me how to fix it when I had the same problem last year. I can't guarantee that this is the cause of you issue, but my problem was similar to yours and changing this parameter resolved it.
Good luck.
Thanks this method works...
Can be done on “Virtual Front Panel”...
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Any BDP-2 users know how to set the “NAS Setting” when connecting to Synology DS718+ or DS918+ ?
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I have a question, can the BDP-2 (or 3) output the audio stream over the Ethernet connection or is it only used for firmware updates and for finding the locations of source files (i.e. on a NAS)?
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Any BDP-2 users know how to set the “NAS Setting” when connecting to Synology DS718+ or DS918+ ?
I have a DS415play, it's been a while since I've been in the setup menu in the BDP-2 but I believe I had to enter the IP then the file share my music was on, then I had to enter the user name/password for the Synology.
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Taking a BDP-1USB for a spin as the first stage in a (potential) root-and-branch upgrade of my digital source. Working in Roon Ready Mode (as a committed Roon user). Attracted to the Bryston for its hi-fi form factor, rather than a series of odd little boxes and power supplies - as well as the potential to drive a high end USB DAC.
First time around the unit seems to have forgotten its Roon Ready status when it went into standby - and defaulted back to USB. Is this a firmware thing? Don’t want to update the firmware until I actually own it.
A comment - I’m having a bit of a “can I be hearing this?” reaction. Running into a Meridian Explorer 2 (yes - something of a mismatch, but people underestimate this giant killer of a DAC at their peril) I expected an uplift to be sure (from a Raspberry Pi with standard PSU). I expected a stable, quieter digital signal may have some effect on the sound, as well as the BDP effectively also acting as an improved power supply for the DAC. But oh my goodness! I’m trying to fight any expectation bias - which may be a factor, of course. The sound is identifiably the same - but smoother and with greater texture. Spatial cues seem to be transformed. Quite a performance. I can’t see this going back at the end of the trial.
Second question - may be a daft one - I was looking at the Chord Qutest DAC as a (possible) second part of my digital progression. It gets power through a 5V DC micro USB connection. Could this possibly be supplied by the BDP, or is it too much?
Many thanks,
Malcolm, Roon (and new Bryston) fan in England.
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Taking a BDP-1USB for a spin as the first stage in a (potential) root-and-branch upgrade of my digital source. Working in Roon Ready Mode (as a committed Roon user). Attracted to the Bryston for its hi-fi form factor, rather than a series of odd little boxes and power supplies - as well as the potential to drive a high end USB DAC.
First time around the unit seems to have forgotten its Roon Ready status when it went into standby - and defaulted back to USB. Is this a firmware thing? Don’t want to update the firmware until I actually own it.
A comment - I’m having a bit of a “can I be hearing this?” reaction. Running into a Meridian Explorer 2 (yes - something of a mismatch, but people underestimate this giant killer of a DAC at their peril) I expected an uplift to be sure (from a Raspberry Pi with standard PSU). I expected a stable, quieter digital signal may have some effect on the sound, as well as the BDP effectively also acting as an improved power supply for the DAC. But oh my goodness! I’m trying to fight any expectation bias - which may be a factor, of course. The sound is identifiably the same - but smoother and with greater texture. Spatial cues seem to be transformed. Quite a performance. I can’t see this going back at the end of the trial.
Second question - may be a daft one - I was looking at the Chord Qutest DAC as a (possible) second part of my digital progression. It gets power through a 5V DC micro USB connection. Could this possibly be supplied by the BDP, or is it too much?
Many thanks,
Malcolm, Roon (and new Bryston) fan in England.
Welcome to the club! :thumb:
You could try the bottom rear USB port as it has the most power. [At that price point, I'd also recommend Crane Song Solaris. Excellent reviews and measurements against other top flagship professional DACs from Benchmark, Mytek, Forrsell, Dangerous Music, Burl, RME, and Apogee.]
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Welcome to the club! :thumb:
You could try the bottom rear USB port as it has the most power. [At that price point, I'd also recommend Crane Song Solaris. Excellent reviews and measurements against other top flagship professional DACs from Benchmark, Mytek, Forrsell, Dangerous Music, Burl, RME, and Apogee.]
Thanks. The Chord is an example for now - I’m hoping to audition many DACs once I get that far. :D
I think I have found the answer to my other question. It seems to take a minute or two to boot-up / settle down and restart Roon Ready mode coming out of standby. I think I was a little over-eager.
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It seems to take a minute or two to boot-up / settle down and restart Roon Ready mode coming out of standby. I think I was a little over-eager.
I find my BDP-1 to sound better if I leave it on all the time.
I am also astonished at the improvement it made. Wouldn't have thought it possible.
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I have a question, can the BDP-2 (or 3) output the audio stream over the Ethernet connection or is it only used for firmware updates and for finding the locations of source files (i.e. on a NAS)?
For control and music selections via mobile device.
cheers
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I have my BDP2 connected to my SP3 using AES output and I have the BDP2 connected to my BDA3 using the coaxial output. I also have my BDP2 connected to the SP3 using USB. However, recently, I discovered I can no longer switch between USB and AES on the SP3. It is either one or the other, but before, I could use either. I am sure its a setting on the BDP2, but I have not changed anything; it just stopped working. Any help?
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I have my BDP2 connected to my SP3 using AES output and I have the BDP2 connected to my BDA3 using the coaxial output. I also have my BDP2 connected to the SP3 using USB. However, recently, I discovered I can no longer switch between USB and AES on the SP3. It is either one or the other, but before, I could use either. I am sure its a setting on the BDP2, but I have not changed anything; it just stopped working. Any help?
Hi,
What method or what are you using to control playback on the BDP? Only the MPD service is capable of playing audio back to multiple devices simultaneously.
Chris
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Hi,
What method or what are you using to control playback on the BDP? Only the MPD service is capable of playing audio back to multiple devices simultaneously.
Chris
I only use MPD. But for some reason, I can no longer switch my SP3 and get sound from the AES input on the SP3 and then switch to USB. I switch to USB sometimes when the bass is to heavy on AES.
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I only use MPD. But for some reason, I can no longer switch my SP3 and get sound from the AES input on the SP3 and then switch to USB. I switch to USB sometimes when the bass is to heavy on AES.
If you place the BDP into service mode and email me the service id we can take a look remotely to make sure the BDP is behaving or if not whats missing.
http://support.bryston.com/downloads/BDP/Manic%20Moose%20Manual.pdf
Chris
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BDP-2 S2.36 2017-12-18
Chris:
Why are some of the albums not generating the small album art: bdp_front_44 and bdp_front_250? This effects the thumb images on Rigelian.
Thanks. Rich
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Roon / DSD - DoP sorted. Playing be-yoo-ti-fully now with the Chord Qutest. Panic over! :duh: :lol: :thumb:
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BDP-2 S2.36 2017-12-18
Chris:
Why are some of the albums not generating the small album art: bdp_front_44 and bdp_front_250? This effects the thumb images on Rigelian.
Thanks. Rich
If you place the BDP into service mode and email me the service id we can take a look remotely to make sure the BDP is behaving or if not whats missing.
http://support.bryston.com/downloads/BDP/Manic%20Moose%20Manual.pdf
Please wait till next Tuesday when I’m back from holiday.
Chris
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Chris:
While in Services I noticed MEM:98.8. Might that have something to do with small art not being generated. If that's the case how do I free up some memory?
Also what does SWAP:OFF mean?
Sorry. I sent an email by mistake. Guess I should read your whole post! Will do again Tuesday.
Thanks. Rich
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Chris:
In regards to the small art not being generated and how it effects Rigelian, I am now testing Rigelian v1.2.3 ( beta ) and all the art now shows including the thumbs in the Playlists screen. So it looks as though Berrie is not using the small art files.
I will still send you a Service No. on Tuesday so you can look to see why the small art is not being generated; This mostly is an issue with the drive bdp_512_2 where all the new stuff resides.
Thanks. Rich
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After six months of not using my BDP-1 due to the freeze / lock up issue constantly happening within minutes of a boot up, I decided to give it another go, it took about 50 power cycles off/on to actually get it to boot without a 09 code error, I updated the firmware (it was running the latest one anyway), I checked the system log and it reports the below, is this related to why BDP-1 tend to lock up, or was a reasonable explanation ever found? It would be great to actually use my BDP-1 again to listen to music.
[ 45.791024] EXT4-fs (sda2): mounting ext3 file system using the ext4 subsystem
[ 45.952004] EXT4-fs (sda2): recovery complete
[ 45.969498] EXT4-fs (sda2): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts: (null)
[ 46.105596] fuse init (API version 7.23)
[ 46.211217] aufs au_warn_loopback:122:loop1[2458]: you may want to try another patch for loopback file on squashfs(0x73717368) branch
[ 46.283972] aufs test_add:305:mount[2459]: uid/gid/perm /bin/mnt 0/0/0755, 0/0/01777
[ 46.308652] FAT-fs (sdb1): utf8 is not a recommended IO charset for FAT filesystems, filesystem will be case sensitive!
[ 46.491962] FAT-fs (sdb1): Volume was not properly unmounted. Some data may be corrupt. Please run fsck.
[ 47.079628] FAT-fs (sdc1): utf8 is not a recommended IO charset for FAT filesystems, filesystem will be case sensitive!
[ 47.180639] FAT-fs (sdc1): Volume was not properly unmounted. Some data may be corrupt. Please run fsck.
[ 52.390475] aufs test_add:305:mount[3496]: uid/gid/perm /www/mnt 0/0/0755, 0/0/01777
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Speaking purely as a Unix veteran and not so much a BDP expert having a volume that does not fsck is not a good thing. It can lead to all sorts of funny behavior.
Maybe you can make a new card for the BDP and install that? I've had almost no problems with my BDP-1 and looking for fsck in my dmesg output finds nothing.
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Speaking purely as a Unix veteran and not so much a BDP expert having a volume that does not fsck is not a good thing. It can lead to all sorts of funny behavior.
Maybe you can make a new card for the BDP and install that? I've had almost no problems with my BDP-1 and looking for fsck in my dmesg output finds nothing.
Thanks for your feedback. This is actually a second CF, as the problem has occurred before, so I manually got another card and went through the process outlined in the updating firmware - when things go wrong - to create.a brand new card and load new firmware from blank.
However, after what you have said I will try again, and see if the same message comes up.
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device sda is your internal cf card with linux firmware and sdb/sdc are USB drives that your likely using for music. If both these drives are bus powered it could be they are drawing to much current, you could try powering on the BDP with neither or just one of the drives attached.
Chris
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Hi folks-
i have a BDP2 operating as a roon endpoint.
my current wiring layout is:
Modem/non wifi Router > Airport Extreme >wired connection to a) Melco N1A as NAS b) BDP2 and c) laptop running Roon core with audiophile optimizer.
i wanted to try:
Modem/Router > Cisco switch (not managed) > a) airport extreme b) NAS c) BDP 2 d) laptop so as to bypass the Airport Extreme for all wired stuff (which is everything dealing with music data).
The bryston wouldn't see an ethernet connection even though the lights were running on the back, and in particular it showed ethX (both 1 and 2) down and not having received an IP of any sort. I do know that Airport Extreme is giving out NAT addresses and the Modem/Router (and thus this Cisco router) is not giving out NAT addresses. When I plugged the bryston into the Airport Extreme, it would announce EthX up and receive a NAT address. no problem. not that this worked to make sound, but all other devices (laptop, Melco) could receive addresses as doled out via the Modem/Router.
Does this seem normal? Not that i got it working in any manner, but I can't even diagnose if I can't get the BDP2 an IP address.
Any thoughts or suggestions? What am I missing? I am no networking expert :D
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I'm not sure how you have the rest of your gear configured, but it sounds like you might be double NAT'd which isn't ideal if you are, but not likely causing this problem. What colour is the LED/Light on the front of the airport extreme?
Chris
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I'm not sure how you have the rest of your gear configured, but it sounds like you might be double NAT'd which isn't ideal if you are, but not likely causing this problem. What colour is the LED/Light on the front of the airport extreme?
Chris
my reply was obviously moderated into nothingness, but i have found out more, and all is well in the house of BDP2.
i had to clarify with my cable provider what i'd signed up for. i knew i had stipulated i didn't need built in wifi from them. well, as it turns out, what i'm not paying for, and therefore don't have is: a. wifi service through their modem and b. router functionality.
it looks like the modem will still dole out addresses to 2 or 3 clients, so i believe what happened is the bryston didn't get an IP address because the modem just won't give them out.
i think i confirmed this by trying it again, and this time, my Roon server laptop couldn't get connected and the BDP2 got a (weird) IP address.
so, essentialy my router is my airport extreme. which is why it works great when i put the switch after the airport.
thanks for your time on this in any case. the BDP 2 is wonderful.
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Hi people,
Excuse me if this has already been covered but could you guys let me know what speed do you get while transferring files through your wireless network?
I am getting between 1-3 Mbps which I think is rather poor. Is there a way to make the transfer speed faster?
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BDP-2 S2.38 218-10-22
Chris:
Added a thumb drive with a small amount of music to a front USB port. The music indexed and plays, but the drive does not show in the Bryston network folder.
Wanted to test SMB using a Sonic Transporter i5. Just wanted to index a small amount of music just to see what the share name should be, hence the small thumb drive. Unlike BlueSound ( who finds shares for you ) the Sonic Transporter wants you to enter the share name. Looking at the BlueSound Share list does not show the thumb drive either.
How do I get the thumb drive to show in the Bryston network folder?
Thanks. Rich
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Shares are only created when the bdp is powered on and when the samba service is restarted.
Chris
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Odd issue with my BDP 1. I've had the player for a few months now and I love it. All my gear is plugged into isolation transformers, one for digital and one for analog.
After a day or so of playing, it started to make noise. It sounded like static popping and electronic squealing in both channels. After some trial and error, I tracked it to the Bryston. If I turned it off when it started to make noise, the noise would dissipate. The rest of the stereo was still on , volume untouched. Thinking maybe it did not like being plugged into a balanced isolation transformer, I moved to my regular isolation transformer. All was well for a week or so, then it started up again. I then plugged the Bryston into the wall and it was fine again. Yesterday, after it had been working fine day in day out for 2 months, I thought to try it again in the transformer.
Sure enough a few hours in it starts to make the noise again. Plugged it back into the wall and all is well. And yes all is on 1 circuit. I am wondering if this is a grounding issue and can it be solved?
Thanks,
any help would be appreciated
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Hi All,
I was wondering if with the BDP2 or BDP3's tablet application it is possible to view the .pdf booklets of my purchased album saved in the folder.
thanks!
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Hi All,
I was wondering if with the BDP2 or BDP3's tablet application it is possible to view the .pdf booklets of my purchased album saved in the folder.
thanks!
If you have the Bryston DB enabled then Media Player will will link pdf's to the default view and the albums in the artist view if they are available. on the default view you see a blue line across the bottom of the cover art in the centre of the page and on the artist view each album has a menu and if a booklet is available it will have an item in the menu called booklet. Also enabling the music scrapper will check the musicbrainz database for booklets as well, there are aren't many but its picked up a few for my library.
Chris
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thank you!
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If you have the Bryston DB enabled then Media Player will will link pdf's to the default view and the albums in the artist view if they are available. on the default view you see a blue line across the bottom of the cover art in the centre of the page and on the artist view each album has a menu and if a booklet is available it will have an item in the menu called booklet. Also enabling the music scrapper will check the musicbrainz database for booklets as well, there are aren't many but its picked up a few for my library.
Chris
Really!? Is this only on a computer, or on a cell phone too? I found that under 2.38 I couldn't even display the back side of an LP cover (it can be done in 2.36). As for Musicbrainz -- I've ripped thousands of CDs with Foobar 2000 -- mostly classical music, but also some pop/rock/jazz -- and not a single item has ever gotten a hit in Musicbrainz.
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In the default view its part of the artist index feature introduced with S2.38
http://vps96186.vps.ovh.ca/docs/whatsnew/manicmoose/2.38/index.html
In the artist view it was introduced in S2.36
http://vps96186.vps.ovh.ca/docs/whatsnew/manicmoose/2.36/index.html
Chris
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I'm in the process of installing an internal SSD into my BDP-2. I have the SSD partitioned as FAT32 with 220Gb in a primary partition volume labeled LIBRARY and 10Gb in a logical partition volume labelled SCRATCH, intended for the scratch drive. The music library works fine. And I'm seeing some album art. Volume names and sizes look fine in MiniTool Patition Wizard.
Problem: Manic Moose - Disk Information reports the volume size for SCRATCH as NaN. What did I do wrong? How do I fix this?
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I answered my own question.
I changed the partition from Logical to Primary, and the NaN problem went away.
Now I just need to figure out how to get Read/Write access to a drive from Windows. When I try to delete a file, it says I need to have permission, but I don't see any way to submit any credentials. (I have the same problem with an external USB drive)
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More details on my question:
How do I get Read/Write access to a USB drive connected to a BDP-2 from Windows.
I have A USB connected SSD drive partitioned as FAT32 with 220Gb in a primary partition volume labeled LIBRARY and 10Gb in a logical partition volume labelled SCRATCH, registered as the scratch drive. The music library works fine.
But I can only write to the drive when I disconnect it from the BDP and connect it to my Windows PC
When I navigate over the network from my Windows PC to the drive connected to the BDP, I'm asked for a User ID and password, which I enter. Then when I try to copy a file from Windows to the BDP or delete a file on the BDP, it says I need to have permission, but I don't see any way to submit any additional credentials. How do I grant myself permission?
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To be honest sounds like a configuration issue on the NAS, but if you want to place the BDP into service mode and email me the service ID along with any needed credentials for the BDP to connect to the NAS we can take a look remotely. Service mode and my email address can be found in the manic moose manual (page 24), linked below.
http://support.bryston.com/downloads/BDP/Manic%20Moose%20Manual.pdf
Chris
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Hello!
I have a few questions regarding high-res support on the BDP pkatform. I have a BDP-2 but I assume this applies to all models. My questions are as follows:
1. Is BDP still limited to DSD128 (5.6 MHz) and if so, what is the limiting factor - hardware or software?
2. What is the maximum sampling rate suššprted by the BDP with factory installed BUC-board through it's AES/EBU and COAXIAL output?
3. In relation to question number 2 (not to be repeating myself), how about the USB output?
4. A few years ago when BDP-2 became available, I read there is an optional connector bracket that can be attached to the rear panel and provide 2 additional USB ports just by removing the plate cover withheld by 2 screws and replacing it with this bracket. If you look at the BDP-2 from behind, this plate cover is located on the far left. Have I understood this correctly and is this bracket available from Bryston? I ssume this bracket is connected to the main computer board inside.
5. What purpose does the HDMI port on the BDP-3 serve? Is this an audio interface or a video interface to connect to a monitor?
6. With respect to USB connection to outboard DACs, is it limited to Bryston DACs only or does it work with any DAC with a USB input? I assume the DAC has to be a USB class 2.0 compliant. I am sorry if I have missed this bit of information but it would perhaps be a good idea to have a list of compatible DACs on your website. It would be impossible to test them all but some forum members might be of assistance in providing some information.
Thanks for your time!
Cheers!
Antun
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Anyone?
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Hello!
I have a few questions regarding high-res support on the BDP pkatform. I have a BDP-2 but I assume this applies to all models. My questions are as follows:
1. Is BDP still limited to DSD128 (5.6 MHz) and if so, what is the limiting factor - hardware or software?
2. What is the maximum sampling rate suššprted by the BDP with factory installed BUC-board through it's AES/EBU and COAXIAL output?
3. In relation to question number 2 (not to be repeating myself), how about the USB output?
4. A few years ago when BDP-2 became available, I read there is an optional connector bracket that can be attached to the rear panel and provide 2 additional USB ports just by removing the plate cover withheld by 2 screws and replacing it with this bracket. If you look at the BDP-2 from behind, this plate cover is located on the far left. Have I understood this correctly and is this bracket available from Bryston? I ssume this bracket is connected to the main computer board inside.
5. What purpose does the HDMI port on the BDP-3 serve? Is this an audio interface or a video interface to connect to a monitor?
6. With respect to USB connection to outboard DACs, is it limited to Bryston DACs only or does it work with any DAC with a USB input? I assume the DAC has to be a USB class 2.0 compliant. I am sorry if I have missed this bit of information but it would perhaps be a good idea to have a list of compatible DACs on your website. It would be impossible to test them all but some forum members might be of assistance in providing some information.
Thanks for your time!
Cheers!
Antun
As far as I am aware there is no limitation on sample rate of pcm or dsd on a USB interface. We've only been able to test up to DSD128 because we haven't had a USB DAC that supports higher then this via DoP to test with. Our own DSD capable DAC the BDA-3 only supports up to DSD128 via DoP and only DSD256 via the native DSD protocol. Native DSD support for the BDA-3 and other Bryston DACs are planned for the next major release, but there really hasn't been a big push for it. We've been focused on improving the user interface and streaming services.
192khz 24bit is the maximum supported
As per the first answer I don't think there is anything technically limiting it but the USB DAC it self, but we've only tested with what our DACs are capable of doing.
The plan was to offer a USB 3.0 option, but in the early days it required newer firmware, which we did eventually release (manic moose with 3.16 kernel(I think)). By the time we got there it really wasn't being asked for and ended up not really ever going anywhere. Although now that we carry the needed parts for the BDP3 I may investigate what needs to be done to bring it to the bdp2 as well. Maybe follow up with me in Monday?
It acts as both, we don't really recommend it for audio, it will go up to pcm 192khz, but the quality of the interface is inferior to the digital spdif and usb interfaces. It should also produce an image showing the currently playing tracks cover art along with the track name, artist and album.
That is correct, the bdp's (all of them except maybe the bdp-pi) should work with most any standard USB audio class 2 DACs. We've only ever tested with our own DACs and occasionally a customer or dealer will send us a DAC to test with, but I'm not sure if we have a list. We've even added an advance audio settings page to our audio device settings page to help change any irregular settings that the Linux firmware might not just do with certain 3rd party DAC manufacturers that don't test with Linux.
Hope this answers your questions
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As far as I am aware there is no limitation on sample rate of pcm or dsd on a USB interface. We've only been able to test up to DSD128 because we haven't had a USB DAC that supports higher then this via DoP to test with. Our own DSD capable DAC the BDA-3 only supports up to DSD128 via DoP and only DSD256 via the native DSD protocol. Native DSD support for the BDA-3 and other Bryston DACs are planned for the next major release, but there really hasn't been a big push for it. We've been focused on improving the user interface and streaming services.
192khz 24bit is the maximum supported
As per the first answer I don't think there is anything technically limiting it but the USB DAC it self, but we've only tested with what our DACs are capable of doing.
The plan was to offer a USB 3.0 option, but in the early days it required newer firmware, which we did eventually release (manic moose with 3.16 kernel(I think)). By the time we got there it really wasn't being asked for and ended up not really ever going anywhere. Although now that we carry the needed parts for the BDP3 I may investigate what needs to be done to bring it to the bdp2 as well. Maybe follow up with me in Monday?
It acts as both, we don't really recommend it for audio, it will go up to pcm 192khz, but the quality of the interface is inferior to the digital spdif and usb interfaces. It should also produce an image showing the currently playing tracks cover art along with the track name, artist and album.
That is correct, the bdp's (all of them except maybe the bdp-pi) should work with most any standard USB audio class 2 DACs. We've only ever tested with our own DACs and occasionally a customer or dealer will send us a DAC to test with, but I'm not sure if we have a list. We've even added an advance audio settings page to our audio device settings page to help change any irregular settings that the Linux firmware might not just do with certain 3rd party DAC manufacturers that don't test with Linux.
Hope this answers your questions
Hi Chris!
Yes, thank you, it is very helpful!
Okay, I will follow up with you on Monday on the additional rear USB ports.
Cheers!
Antun
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The plan was to offer a USB 3.0 option, but in the early days it required newer firmware, which we did eventually release (manic moose with 3.16 kernel(I think)). By the time we got there it really wasn't being asked for and ended up not really ever going anywhere. Although now that we carry the needed parts for the BDP3 I may investigate what needs to be done to bring it to the bdp2 as well. Maybe follow up with me in Monday?
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Hi Chris!
Did you have time to investigate whether this is applicable to BDP-2 perhaps?
Cheers!
Antun
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So yesterday I decided to use my Galaxy S9 to control my BDP-2 for the 1st time but was surprised to see an incredibly minimalist and primitive interface, not at all like I see on my PC and iPad. I could not find the dashboard nor could I find Artist view to easily and visually scroll through my artists and albums. All I could find was the search screen for attempting to locate music.
Am I doing something wrong?
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What's the URL to enable the enhanced dashboard that shows all of the album art?
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OK, I found the media player in Android on my Samsung S9. Wow, was that buried. The Media Player heading you see when the app initially loads doesn't work, it wasn't until I accidentally hit the Virtual Control Panel option under settings that I saw both the Dashboard and Media player buttons. I clicked on Media Player there and it loaded with all of the visualization and options I'm accustomed to seeing on my PC and iPad.
I clicked on Dashboard and it loads the view I see when I launch the BDP page but it does not contain the album artwork hence my question above asking for the URL that triggers the V2 Dashboard as I thought you needed to do that in order to see the album art. I was able to find the URL's in the Manic Moose thread on page 98 but they don't work for me. They contain bryston-bdp-2.local which simply does not work on my S9, the phone does not recognize the name thus can't find the player. I ran into a similar issue when trying to connect to the player initially. It wasn't until I came across the mybryston URL in the BDP-3 documentation that I was able to use that to connect to the player. Is there anyway I can leverage that to get the dashboard to display the artwork like it does on my PC and iPad?
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Hi Chris!
Did you have time to investigate whether this is applicable to BDP-2 perhaps?
Cheers!
Antun
It’s on my radar I just need to submit the paper work to get a retail price, it’ll probably be around $200-$300 for one rear facing USB 3.0 port.
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They contain bryston-bdp-2.local which simply does not work on my S9
You’ll need to replace bryston-bdp-2.local with the up address assigned to your bdp, you can get the up address by pushing the down arrow button on the front of the unit.
Chris
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You’ll need to replace bryston-bdp-2.local with the up address assigned to your bdp, you can get the up address by pushing the down arrow button on the front of the unit.
Chris
Thanks
So just to make sure there is no confusion I able able to control the BDP from my cell phone it's just that I'm trying to get the V2 dashboard to engage so I can see all of my albums there vs having to go over into artist View in media player. This is already working correctly on my iPad via Chrome and Safari and on my Windows laptop via Chrome, Edge and IE.
So when following the below instructions:
enable the version 2 dashboard issue the below command in terminal prompt
php -f /bin/chgsettings.php system dashboard 2
To revert back to the original use this command
php -f /bin/chgsettings.php system dashboard 1
Alternativly using a web browser use the following two url's
http://bryston-bdp-2.local/mpd/chgsettings.php?p=system&v=dashboard&s=2
http://bryston-bdp-2.local/mpd/chgsettings.php?p=system&v=dashboard&s=1
If I go to:
http://##.###.##.##/mpd/chgsettings.php?p=system&v=dashboard&s=2
That should turn on the v2 dashboard and show all of my album covers?
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Neither of the provided URLs work for me. I have no idea what a V2 dashboard is, so I was hoping one of these would give me a clue. I have a BDP-pi. MM v.2.36 for Android cell phone is ridden by bugs. MM v.2.38 is worse, since it's prone to degenerating into displays of hex-code and garbage. I had to have Gary Dayton reinstall v.2.36 for me, since its bugs are at least manageable. If there's an alternative interface, I'm interested in seeing it.
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The notion of a version 2 dashboard has always been a bit of a mystery to me, too.
I have a BDP-1 and not a BDP-2, would it still work in that case? When I have replaced BDP-2 with BDP-1 in the provided url nothing happens.
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If I remember correctly when I did this on my iPad and PC nothing will happen when you go to the URL, it acts as a switch to flip dashboard modes. In order to see the effect you had to then load up the interface and go to dashboard at which time you would see all of your albums displayed with their artwork (if you enabled the 1st URL), the 2nd URL switched the dashboard back.
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Thanks, Rod. Ah, I see it all now, pictures everywhere.
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It’s on my radar I just need to submit the paper work to get a retail price, it’ll probably be around $200-$300 for one rear facing USB 3.0 port.
Hi Chris!
Okay, thanks!
Would I be able to install it myself or would it require sending the machine in?
Cheers!
Antun
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BDP-2 S2.40 2019-04-08
Chris:
Moved the BDP-2 to another loacation in the LAN. When I did so the IP Address must have changed because the Moose would not open. Looked in my router settings for "bryston-bdp-2". It was there under Online Devices with a different IP Address. Tried to reserve the IP Address to the former one used before the move at which point got the message "IP Address used by another device".
Looking under Offline Devices in the router settings I found a device called localhost with a MAC address different by only the last character. The Reserved IP address for that Offline Device was the old IP used before the BDP was moved. Changed the URL in all my devices to the new IP Address for the Online Devices / bryston-bdp-2.
What is localhost? Could it be one of the Dashboard / Services server settings which I am no longer using?
Thanks. Rich
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BDP-2 S2.40 2019-04-08
Chris:
Moved the BDP-2 to another loacation in the LAN. When I did so the IP Address must have changed because the Moose would not open. Looked in my router settings for "bryston-bdp-2". It was there under Online Devices with a different IP Address. Tried to reserve the IP Address to the former one used before the move at which point got the message "IP Address used by another device".
Looking under Offline Devices in the router settings I found a device called localhost with a MAC address different by only the last character. The Reserved IP address for that Offline Device was the old IP used before the BDP was moved. Changed the URL in all my devices to the new IP Address for the Online Devices / bryston-bdp-2.
What is localhost? Could it be one of the Dashboard / Services server settings which I am no longer using?
Thanks. Rich
Hi Rich,
The BDP-2 has two network interfaces, sounds like you're using the other network interface which would have a different mac address and the difference would be the very last value. Try just switching the network cable between the Ethernet interfaces and restart the BDP.
Chris
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Chris:
Thanks for the prompt reply. Yes. When I moved the BDP I plugged into the other Ethernet port. All is well now.
Thanks. Rich
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Hi
I received a BDP-1 yesterday to link up with a PS Audio Stellar Gain Cell DAC. I was under the impression that it could connect via USB but after a lot of rebooting, etc. It fails to connect. In MM under output devices it does not see the DAC only spdif and AES outputs. I have ordered a bnc adapter to use with a digital rca I have lying around but ideally I would still like the option to use the USB.
I’ve looked through most of the 72 pages and there has been some mention of this, wondering if it’s a compatibility issue but if anyone has any ideas? It is running the latest firmware.
Greg
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I have just purchased a used bdp1. I will get it on Friday. So excited as I have been using a refurbished Laptop from like 2010 (which I hate) via usb to my M2Tech Young MK1. My question is, I have read it is a good idea to do a factory reset to get a from scratch version of the bdp when buying used. Will this erase the version of the bdp to an older version? I am not the best with computers. I have no idea what the current version is on the bdp, but if it is a newer version, I would rather not erase it and have to update the player. I am a little apprehensive about upgrading as I see so many people have problems when upgrading. Thanks
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Hi
I received a BDP-1 yesterday to link up with a PS Audio Stellar Gain Cell DAC. I was under the impression that it could connect via USB but after a lot of rebooting, etc. It fails to connect. In MM under output devices it does not see the DAC only spdif and AES outputs. I have ordered a bnc adapter to use with a digital rca I have lying around but ideally I would still like the option to use the USB.
I’ve looked through most of the 72 pages and there has been some mention of this, wondering if it’s a compatibility issue but if anyone has any ideas? It is running the latest firmware.
Greg
Hello Greg,
Have you tried connecting the DAC to different USB ports on the BDP?
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Hi
Just reverted back to my laptop via USB and it looks the issue may be my two week old DAC as it now cannot see that either so there you go. I will be getting a spare USB lead later just to check it’s not that before calling the supplying dealer and embarrassing myself.....much rather do that on a forum ;)
Thanks
Greg
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Let's hope it is the USB cable, a lot easier that way. I usually keep a punch of them handy just in case I muck one up. Post back on how it goes when you have a chance.
I have used a good range of DACs with a BDP-1 and all have been successful. All the USB ports should feed a DAC but there have been times when I have had to move a DAC from one USB port to other before it was recognised.
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Let's hope it is the USB cable, a lot easier that way. I usually keep a punch of them handy just in case I muck one up. Post back on how it goes when you have a chance.
I have used a good range of DACs with a BDP-1 and all have been successful. All the USB ports should feed a DAC but there have been times when I have had to move a DAC from one USB port to other before it was recognised.
Well, this is getting stranger. BDP-1 now recognises the DAC in the audio devices along with the aes and spdif. Only issue now is that it refuses to play anything, I would press play and the song would hold on pause. If I revert to spdif it plays fine. I have disabled both aes and spdif leaving USB only ticked so there should be no conflict but this makes no difference.
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When USB DAC is showing in Audio Devices is it red? If so, you need to activate the Restart button beneath the list of devices.
The enable tick refers to the device's ability to play DSD - see Manic Moose Manual [Firmware Users Manual] p15.
Do you have MPD running or is playback set to Roon or in rendering mode? Playback modes are selectable in Dashboard - Services. It is when using MDP that both USB and SPDIF/AES are available at the same time. In other playback modes only one of USB or SPDIF/AES transmits. I think this depends on which the BDP recognises first when you power up.
Chris/Incognito is the expert on this. Perhaps he will respond.
Hope this helps.
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Also, what are you attempting to playback? Is it a local file? Tidal? Qobuz? Local file would be best at this stage. On the BDP-1 Tidal/Qobuz can take a moment to load up.
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Ah, forget that last question. I see you have had good playback from SPDIF.
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When USB DAC is showing in Audio Devices is it red? If so, you need to activate the Restart button beneath the list of devices.
The enable tick refers to the device's ability to play DSD - see Manic Moose Manual [Firmware Users Manual] p15.
Do you have MPD running or is playback set to Roon or in rendering mode? Playback modes are selectable in Dashboard - Services. It is when using MDP that both USB and SPDIF/AES are available at the same time. In other playback modes only one of USB or SPDIF/AES transmits. I think this depends on which the BDP recognises first when you power up.
Chris/Incognito is the expert on this. Perhaps he will respond.
Hope this helps.
A couple of times it showed red and I did restart but mostly white
I have been using mpd trying both local and Tidal
Yes, both are available when mdp is being used, thankfully no Roon, that would asking too much at the moment lol!
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This is odd. When an audio file is playing you should be getting the audio through all three outputs at the same time. You should have audio going to the DAC via USB as well as SPDIF. Is there a way of isolating the USB input/output of the DAC? Disconnect the SPDIF cable from the BDP to DAC - is USB input then active to/from DAC?
It can be a bit of a puzzle at first to get this right, I remember a few puzzled headaches until it all became obvious.
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This is odd. When an audio file is playing you should be getting the audio through all three outputs at the same time. You should have audio going to the DAC via USB as well as SPDIF. Is there a way of isolating the USB input/output of the DAC? Disconnect the SPDIF cable from the BDP to DAC - is USB input then active to/from DAC?
It can be a bit of a puzzle at first to get this right, I remember a few puzzled headaches until it all became obvious.
Well it looks like I may have the solution. When reverting back to my laptop the DAC did not initially see it until I rebooted the DAC. It seems that the plug and play element of the USB input has gone a bit haywire. I even tried to reinstall the USB driver onto the laptop but, again, I had to reboot the DAC to get the driver installed
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I have just purchased a used bdp1. ... I would rather not erase it and have to update the player. I am a little apprehensive about upgrading as I see so many people have problems when upgrading. Thanks
Congrats, my BDP-1 is one of the jewels of my system.
I also got it used and did the whole reset thing. It was pretty painless and the upgrade process is also very painless.
Only thing to be concerned about (at a very very very low level) is the card that holds the software. Support here has been great so rely on it.
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I have just purchased a used bdp1. I will get it on Friday. So excited as I have been using a refurbished Laptop from like 2010 (which I hate) via usb to my M2Tech Young MK1. My question is, I have read it is a good idea to do a factory reset to get a from scratch version of the bdp when buying used. Will this erase the version of the bdp to an older version? I am not the best with computers. I have no idea what the current version is on the bdp, but if it is a newer version, I would rather not erase it and have to update the player. I am a little apprehensive about upgrading as I see so many people have problems when upgrading. Thanks
When I purchased a used BDP the MPD was full of references to the previous owners files but once I attached my own drives, reset the data base and restarted the BDP a couple of times, all the previous owners info disappeared. I did not do a factory reset.
Updating firmware is an easy task. Select Update Firmware in Dashboard and click Update.
You can check your currently installed firmware in Dashboard/System - it is the top line in the right hand information box
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When I purchased a used BDP the MPD was full of references to the previous owners files but once I attached my own drives, reset the data base and restarted the BDP a couple of times, all the previous owners info disappeared. I did not do a factory reset.
Updating firmware is an easy task. Select Update Firmware in Dashboard and click Update.
You can check your currently installed firmware in Dashboard/System - it is the top line in the right hand information box
Have to admit that I was expecting it to be a pain to setup for some reason but, in truth, my issues lay elsewhere. Firmware update was really easy, I was lucky and bought from a dealer who cleared any references to the previous owner for me.
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Is there a limit on the size of a singular or multiple NAS drive ('X' TB?) that the BDP-1 can read and add? I have the Bryston database disabled. I am only asking if there's a limit on how many files/folders can be added to Manic Moose's sidebar folder view. Thanks!
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Is there a limit on the size of a singular or multiple NAS drive ('X' TB?) that the BDP-1 can read and add? I have the Bryston database disabled. I am only asking if there's a limit on how many files/folders can be added to Manic Moose's sidebar folder view. Thanks!
^ Anyone? Will there be a problem with say a 6TB or 8TB, maybe 10TB?
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^ Anyone? Will there be a problem with say a 6TB or 8TB, maybe 10TB?
The side bar is only a data base, a list, so it is not a matter of if the scratch disk is large enough to hold the data base listing? I have an internal 2 TB SSD that is used as scratch disc and for music file storage. I must have 4 or 5 TB from all attached storage [included a NAS] referenced in the DB, with a few hundred albums storage on the SSD itself, and the used capacity is only a few percent.
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The side bar is only a data base, a list, so it is not a matter of if the scratch disk is large enough to hold the data base listing? I have an internal 2 TB SSD that is used as scratch disc and for music file storage. I must have 4 or 5 TB from all attached storage [included a NAS] referenced in the DB, with a few hundred albums storage on the SSD itself, and the used capacity is only a few percent.
The internal would indicate a BDP-2/3, right? Their limitations should be higher than the BDP-1.
Yeah, I just wanted to get a confirmation for my peace of mind that it was fine with a BDP-1.
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I've only had the BPD-3 a few weeks, before that a BDP-1 on which I used flash drives [32/64GB] as scratch discs for the database including a NAS of 4GB. The NAS loaded to the database but I didn't really make use of it as the NAS was only in the DB for a few weeks before I moved to the BDP-3.
More advice from others needed, I think. It has been very quiet here on the Bryston forum of late.
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Yeah, I'm hoping James or Chris will give provide some advice before I start doing things.
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Yeah, I'm hoping James or Chris will give provide some advice before I start doing things.
Hi Zoom
I do not think it will be a problem but I will check with Chris Rice.
james
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^ Anyone? Will there be a problem with say a 6TB or 8TB, maybe 10TB?
There is no limitation relative to drive size, the limitation is relative to the number of tracks. The BDP-1 with the bryston dB disabled is about 100,000 tracks, but becomes more difficult and it’s reaction time slows at around 50,000 tracks (I think, it’s been awhile since I’ve been asked this question and my BDP-1 is connected to a library of 7,000 songs + TIDAL and QOBUZ). Hope this helps.
Chris
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There is no limitation relative to drive size, the limitation is relative to the number of tracks. The BDP-1 with the bryston dB disabled is about 100,000 tracks, but becomes more difficult and it’s reaction time slows at around 50,000 tracks (I think, it’s been awhile since I’ve been asked this question and my BDP-1 is connected to a library of 7,000 songs + TIDAL and QOBUZ). Hope this helps.
Chris
Thank you. Is that limitation due to CPU and/or the scratch disc or the SD card inside the BDP-1, i.e. can the limit be extended?
Do you know the max limits for BDP-2 and BDP-3 and where they start slowing down? Thanks!
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The side bar is only a data base, a list, so it is not a matter of if the scratch disk is large enough to hold the data base listing? I have an internal 2 TB SSD that is used as scratch disc and for music file storage. I must have 4 or 5 TB from all attached storage [included a NAS] referenced in the DB, with a few hundred albums storage on the SSD itself, and the used capacity is only a few percent.
I am currently using a Synology NAS woth (2) 10tB 'RED' drives. There's no issue regarding my ROON accessing it and sending the target song to my Bryston Pi. I'be also used Bryston's cataloging App and it streams from the NAS just fine (though I don't like the App much... maybe I'm spoiled from using Roon).
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Recently, I decided to try out Tidal Streaming, which is far better than I had imagined. Thus far, I've only been able to use my PC for it because my BDP-1 keeps reporting "incorrect username or password", even though I've entered the identical credentials in the BDP-1 as I'm using for the PC. For giggles, I've copied and pasted the username and password from the Settings page in the BDP-1 to my PC for logging in and it was successful. What could the issue be?
This is the build my BDP-1 is using:
S2.40 2019-05-10
Build: Manic Moose
MPD: 0.17.6 NEWS
Kernel: 3.16-0.bpo.2-486
Copyright Bryston Ltd. 2010
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Recently, I decided to try out Tidal Streaming, which is far better than I had imagined. Thus far, I've only been able to use my PC for it because my BDP-1 keeps reporting "incorrect username or password", even though I've entered the identical credentials in the BDP-1 as I'm using for the PC. For giggles, I've copied and pasted the username and password from the Settings page in the BDP-1 to my PC for logging in and it was successful. What could the issue be?
This is the build my BDP-1 is using:
S2.40 2019-05-10
Build: Manic Moose
MPD: 0.17.6 NEWS
Kernel: 3.16-0.bpo.2-486
Copyright Bryston Ltd. 2010
If you place the BDP into service mode and email us the service id we can take a look remotely. It's likely a character you've used in your username or password we didn't consider/test that your using and should be pretty simple to fix.
http://support.bryston.com/downloads/BDP/Manic%20Moose%20Manual.pdf
Chris
Chris
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If you place the BDP into service mode and email us the service id we can take a look remotely. It's likely a character you've used in your username or password we didn't consider/test that your using and should be pretty simple to fix.
http://support.bryston.com/downloads/BDP/Manic%20Moose%20Manual.pdf
Chris
Ah, makes sense - I guess I should have thought of that. I changed my password to something without any special characters and the BDP-1 logged in without issue. As Tidal is just a streaming service, I had no need of using such a complex password. Consider the issue successfully resolved and me a happy customer. The BDP-1 has been an impressively stable device that continues to put a smile on my face. Thanks for the help! :thumb:
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would you mind posting which special characters you used so we can still resolve the bug for future customers who might come across it?
Chris
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I wouldn't mind at all - aside from a mixture of upper/lower case and numbers, I used only one special character - $.
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would you mind posting which special characters you used so we can still resolve the bug for future customers who might come across it?
Chris
FYI Devialet had restrictions on characters in router passwords. Not uncommon issue.
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Yup. I had the same issue with $ a while back. I was just about to chime in when I saw the reply from Chris.
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Quick thoughts on the sound quality of Tidal on the BDP-1?
Looking to make a jump from Mac mini with Audirvana > Jitterbug > M2Tech HiFace2 > Signal Cable SPDIF cable > BDA-1
Thinking it'd be a good upgrade?
Thanks,
Evan
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Good evening!
I have been using my BDP-1/BDA-1 combo almost daily and very happily since they were was introduced.
What a brilliant investment that was!
Nowadays the BDP-1 serves as a DLNA renderer for a Synology NAS which runs the DS Audio application.
I switched to this setup when my music library outgrew the limit set by the memory available in the player.
This setup works very well indeed most of the time, but there is an issue:
- every other day the BDP is no longer recognised as an available player. The solution is to either reboot it or toggle the Renderer service off and on and then wait a little while.
But why does this happen? The other DLNA renderers in my network do not seem to display the same behaviour.
Do anyone know of a way to keep the BDP permanently "online" so to speak?
Grateful for any advice on this question!
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Hi there,
Try going in to your router settings and assigning your BDP a static IP address on your network.
I found that this kept everything connected and reachable more than the default settings.
Evan
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Evan,
thank you, this sounds like a good idea. I try it for a while now to see how it works.
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Hello,
I've sett the display of my BDP2 (with IAD) to go off after 10 sec. Recently it does go off for just a moment and then on again, repeatedly. In this status the commands from the fascia are not responding, until with up / left I enter the settings and reconfigure the display off again. Each time I restart the player it does the same.
I've put the display off.
I've run the latest updates systematically.
Any hints?
Kind regards,
Vlad
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Hi all,
In manic moose how to delete the song in the Favorites playlist created with the star besides the player controls at the top of media player.
Thank you.
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Hi there,
Try going in to your router settings and assigning your BDP a static IP address on your network.
I found that this kept everything connected and reachable more than the default settings.
Evan
This definitely solved the problem. The BDP-1 has been accessible and ready to play ever since I made the switch 12 days ago. Thanks again.
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Hello,
I've sett the display of my BDP2 (with IAD) to go off after 10 sec.
I am very curious how you set the display to go off after 10s ??? I have also a BDP-2 with IAD.
Regards, Gerard
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Press up arrow and left arrow at the same time.
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Nice! Thanks! :)
Are there other hidden features not mentioned in the manual for the BDP-2?
Regards, Gerard
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If you have the Bryston DB enabled then Media Player will will link pdf's to the default view and the albums in the artist view if they are available. on the default view you see a blue line across the bottom of the cover art in the centre of the page and on the artist view each album has a menu and if a booklet is available it will have an item in the menu called booklet. Also enabling the music scrapper will check the musicbrainz database for booklets as well, there are aren't many but its picked up a few for my library.
Chris
the booklets show up under Artist View but there is no "blue line" across the bottom of the cover art to click on for the booklet.
this is the same on win 10, ipad, and mac OS 10.13.6
edit:
just found out that if you double click or tap on the cover art then you will see a blue bar with tabs across the top of the cover art
-- however there is no tab for booklet even though the pdf file is there.
bdp2 S2.42 2019-12-02
any ideas?
thanks
David
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Hi all,
I just installed the firmware update (S2.42 2019-12-02) for my BDP-2 and see that there have been some previous firmware updates that include being able to stream Radio Paradise.
My question is: How do I actually get to stream Radio Paradise?
I've gone into the Rock dropdowns on bRadio and have not been able to find Radio Paradise.
Any help you can give is greatly appreciated.
Thanks. Jerry
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Manic Moose (S2.XX) introduced support for exFat and is the ideal filesystem if you want to be able to move your drive from device to device; including the BDP, PC's and Macs. Fat32 can be used to create partitions as large as 2TB, the BDP will do it; but exFat is still the superior file system to NTFS and Fat32 for this application, in my opinion.
Chris
^^^^
The USB formating is interesting, I have just bought two pendrives a 128GB and 64GB to start putting my music on and under Windows 7 you only have the options of NTFS and exFAT. I would really like the option to push and pull files from the drive. James will exFAT become supported or the ability to push to NTFS?
Has anyone experimented with using a utility to force FAT32 onto a larger drive?
Cheers
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Hi all,
I just installed the firmware update (S2.42 2019-12-02) for my BDP-2 and see that there have been some previous firmware updates that include being able to stream Radio Paradise.
My question is: How do I actually get to stream Radio Paradise?
I've gone into the Rock dropdowns on bRadio and have not been able to find Radio Paradise.
Any help you can give is greatly appreciated.
Thanks. Jerry
Media Player now has a radio streaming option found in the default view (under music library) that currently includes bRadio (shoutcast) stations and Radio Paradise lossless.
Chris
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the booklets show up under Artist View but there is no "blue line" across the bottom of the cover art to click on for the booklet.
this is the same on win 10, ipad, and mac OS 10.13.6
edit:
just found out that if you double click or tap on the cover art then you will see a blue bar with tabs across the top of the cover art
-- however there is no tab for booklet even though the pdf file is there.
bdp2 S2.42 2019-12-02
any ideas?
thanks
David
Not sure, could be a bug that's preventing the firmware from realizing the pdf exists. Could you place the unit into service mode and email us the service id along with an album exhibiting the problem?
http://support.bryston.com/downloads/BDP/Manic%20Moose%20Manual.pdf
Chris
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Hi Chris,
Sorry to raise another issue with the update. i have noticed another "anomaly" since the latest firmware update: I cannot see the button to get to the Dashboard. Also, the volume adjustment slider appears to be unresponsive (in light of the hit that creates on the resolution, maybe that isn't such a bad thing!). I am using a Mac and have tried three different browsers that all show the same behaviour. :cry:
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Hi
Dashboard appears OK on my Macair, pc win10 and ipad
bdp-2
David
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Hi Chris,
Sorry to raise another issue with the update. i have noticed another "anomaly" since the latest firmware update: I cannot see the button to get to the Dashboard. Also, the volume adjustment slider appears to be unresponsive (in light of the hit that creates on the resolution, maybe that isn't such a bad thing!). I am using a Mac and have tried three different browsers that all show the same behaviour. :cry:
I'll check the volume slider Monday, we moved the back to dashboard button to the lower left corner when the volume slider is enabled. This was a change made for the BDA-3.14. In the mean time you could try clearing your cache if you haven't already.
Chris
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Media Player now has a radio streaming option found in the default view (under music library) that currently includes bRadio (shoutcast) stations and Radio Paradise lossless.
Chris
Hi Chris,
Thanks much! Upon reading your message and still not seeing it (I was looking for Radio Paradise under the "Dashboard/bRadio/Rock" area), I was convinced it was something I was doing wrong (which was correct). I did not realize that it is actually located in the "Media Player/Add Files/Radio" area.
I've found it and my wife and I are very grateful. We both love Radio Paradise and love that it is an included option to listen to with my BDP-2 player (which I love too by the way).
Thanks much and have a safe, wonderful holiday season!
Jerry
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Please excuse my stupid BDP-1 question. I recently purchased a used unit. I was under the impression I could control it remotely with my Android phone. I have internet cell service but no wifi, no wired internet. Am I destined to 'use the buttons'?
Thanks much.
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Please excuse my stupid BDP-1 question. I recently purchased a used unit. I was under the impression I could control it remotely with my Android phone. I have internet cell service but no wifi, no wired internet. Am I destined to 'use the buttons'?
Thanks much.
Hi Offthegrid (love the name).
You need wifi to use the remote GUI in the BDP-1. The best way if you want to be off the grid is to use what I call the 'man cave option' - which is to buy a cheap router and connect it directly to the BDP-1.
Its what I do at audio shows. You will not have access to streaming radio stations or music sources like Qobuz and Tidal etc though because the router is not connected to the internet.
james
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Hi James:
Thanks much for the prompt reply.
If you would, please recommend a cheap router and describe how I would implement. I'm new to this streaming thing, mainly a 2 channel SACD guy.
And I am truly off the grid, microhydro with lots of clean dedicated audio power ☺
Paul
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Hi James:
Thanks much for the prompt reply.
If you would, please recommend a cheap router and describe how I would implement. I'm new to this streaming thing, mainly a 2 channel SACD guy.
And I am truly off the grid, microhydro with lots of clean dedicated audio power ☺
Paul
Hi Paul
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=202315)
Setting Up A Dedicated Router With Bryston BDP Digital Player
Set-up Instructions if you do not have a “Local Home Network” or simply wish to operate your Bryston BDP Digital Player as an isolated system from other surrounding local networks.
1. Plug in your Router to a power source
2. Plug the Ethernet cable into one of the (RJ45) ‘LAN OUTLETS’ on the rear of the router (NOT THE WAN OR INTERNET INLET) - usually there is only one ‘Wan’ inlet and 4-5 grouped ‘LAN’ outlets present on most routers.
3. Plug the other end of the Ethernet cable into the Ethernet input on the rear of the BDP Digital Player
4. Turn on the BDP Digital Player (will take about a minute or two to fully boot-up)
5. Open up the WEB-BROWSER on your interface (iPhone, iPad, iTouch, Computer etc.) and enter the IP Address of the attached router.
6. The Bryston Web-Interface will show up and you can select the Bryston interface.
7. The Bryston web-browser will load showing what content is present on the Bryston BDP-1 NOTE: If your wireless connection between the BDP and the Wireless Device (Computer, iPad, iPhone, iTouch etc.) does not connect then you may have to configure your router per the manufacturers instructions.You configure your router by connecting your router to yourcomputer and follow the manufacturers instruction in the router manual to make sure the ‘Wireless Option’ is configured and activated.
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Hey Guys...
Curious as if your able to stream "Master" quality music on tidal through your BDP? I understand your login credentials are made on the BDP user settings via web interface for tidal and or Roon and technically you should playback "Master" quality streams on tidal. I noticed that some devices do not support "Master" quality
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=202654)
.
feedback would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
A.P.A
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Hey Guys...
Curious as if your able to stream "Master" quality music on tidal through your BDP? I understand your login credentials are made on the BDP user settings via web interface for tidal and or Roon and technically you should playback "Master" quality streams on tidal. I noticed that some devices do not support "Master" quality
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=202654)
.
feedback would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
A.P.A
I was reading the thread on (Rookie questions about BDP2 and Pi ) and answers my question sated above.
Thanks James for the answer.
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Hi again James:
I'm trying to use my android phone, Mpdroid and a router to control my BDP1.
When I try to connect I get: connection to mpd-server failed. Strangely, I can see the music files behind the error message but can't access them.
I set both the host and streaming host to 192.168.0.100 and port and streaming port are the default numbers. I set a password. The router is connected to the ethernet port on the bdp1.
The phone connects with the router.
Help please!
Paul
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Hi again James:
I'm trying to use my android phone, Mpdroid and a router to control my BDP1.
When I try to connect I get: connection to mpd-server failed. Strangely, I can see the music files behind the error message but can't access them.
I set both the host and streaming host to 192.168.0.100 and port and streaming port are the default numbers. I set a password. The router is connected to the ethernet port on the bdp1.
The phone connects with the router.
Hi,
I use MPdroid with a BDP3. This has been a regular occurrence for a while. I hold the icon until app options appear. Select app info. Select force stop. The app reboots and works after that.
Bob
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Thanks Bob. Tried the force stop. Also reinstalled. Slightly different error and no playlist behind it:
Failed to connect to localhost/:1 (port 6600) : isConnection failed: ECONNREFUSED
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Hi again James:
I'm trying to use my android phone, Mpdroid and a router to control my BDP1.
When I try to connect I get: connection to mpd-server failed. Strangely, I can see the music files behind the error message but can't access them.
I set both the host and streaming host to 192.168.0.100 and port and streaming port are the default numbers. I set a password. The router is connected to the ethernet port on the bdp1.
The phone connects with the router.
Help please!
Paul
The password field should be left empty and for good measure you might want to reset your network settings on the BDP, you can use the menu on the front of the BDP to do this.
http://support.bryston.com/downloads/BDP/Manic%20Moose%20Manual.pdf
Then setup mpdroid again using the ip address assigned to the BDP
Chris
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Bingo. Thanks much for the advice.
Is there a way to create a playlist via mpdroid. There seems to be a designated screen but no create option. As it is, I can play music only from an album or a genre.
Thanks again Chris.
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To create a playlist in MPdroid:
1. select songs and add to queue
2.in screen where songs are listed tap on three dots in right hand corner
3. select save
4. select new playlist
5. type in name for new playlist
6. click ok
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Bingo. Thanks much for the advice.
Is there a way to create a playlist via mpdroid. There seems to be a designated screen but no create option. As it is, I can play music only from an album or a genre.
Thanks again Chris.
Quit being lazy and read the manual. :lol:
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I do not subscribe to Tidal, but when I perform a search of my library Tidal results are displayed along with my library results.
I am uninterested in what may, or may not, be available on Tidal.
Is there a way to exclude the Tidal results?
Thanks
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I do not subscribe to Tidal, but when I perform a search of my library Tidal results are displayed along with my library results.
I am uninterested in what may, or may not, be available on Tidal.
Is there a way to exclude the Tidal results?
Thanks
Sorry, no
They do appear after the artists that do exist in your music library
Chris
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Yes, the Tidal results do appear after those in my library, and they are clearly labeled as Tidal.
Thank you!
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Hi James / Chris!
Could you please tell me exactly which manufacturer and model of motherboard is used in the BDP-2?
If you don't know, can you please check with your engineer, if this is even possible during this time?
Best wishes,
Antun
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Hi James / Chris!
Could you please tell me exactly which manufacturer and model of motherboard is used in the BDP-2?
If you don't know, can you please check with your engineer, if this is even possible during this time?
Best wishes,
Antun
Hi Antun
Thats a Chris question for sure.
james
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It’s a custom version of a board from ibase, MI-890, single core version. The original version is discontinued, if you need a replacement we can sell you one if your bop is no longer under warranty.
Chris
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It’s a custom version of a board from ibase, MI-890, single core version. The original version is discontinued, if you need a replacement we can sell you one if your bop is no longer under warranty.
Chris
Thank you Chris!
I was just thinking it could come in handy to have a replacement in case anything happens as the BDP-3 upgrade is a little pricey for me at the moment.
How much is the BDP-2 board?
Also, in what way is it custom? In other words, how does it differ from the standard 'computer' board?
Thank you!
Antun
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Hi James / Chris,
I have issue with my Tidal as the latest firmware S2.42 2020-04-15 have removed the tidal app from application section.
Using the tidal function within media player mode, it could not load my artist collection under my collection section.
Is it the issue with the firmware, or there is a limit to no. Of artists in my collection? I could load the albums And tracks within my collection which is more in numbers. So it is a very strange bug.
I am still using the bdp-2 with bda-3 in my setup.
Thanks!
Mr. Leong.
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Hi James / Chris,
I have issue with my Tidal as the latest firmware S2.42 2020-04-15 have removed the tidal app from application section.
Using the tidal function within media player mode, it could not load my artist collection under my collection section.
Is it the issue with the firmware, or there is a limit to no. Of artists in my collection? I could load the albums And tracks within my collection which is more in numbers. So it is a very strange bug.
I am still using the bdp-2 with bda-3 in my setup.
Thanks!
Mr. Leong.
Hello,
That's quite odd, if you place the BDP into service mode and email me the service id I can take a look remotely.
http://support.bryston.com/downloads/BDP/Manic%20Moose%20Manual.pdf
Chris
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Thank you Chris!
I was just thinking it could come in handy to have a replacement in case anything happens as the BDP-3 upgrade is a little pricey for me at the moment.
How much is the BDP-2 board?
Also, in what way is it custom? In other words, how does it differ from the standard 'computer' board?
Thank you!
Antun
Honestly I'm not sure if this would be any cheaper as because those boards where customized for us they had a much higher price tag per board then the board used in the BDP-3 main board. I'll see if Mike Picket can investigate a solution for you, he deals with the cost of repair and parts.
Chris
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Hello,
That's quite odd, if you place the BDP into service mode and email me the service id I can take a look remotely.
http://support.bryston.com/downloads/BDP/Manic%20Moose%20Manual.pdf
Chris
Thanks Chris! I have emailed the service id to crice@bryston.com.
I will leave the bdp2 on for you to check.
Mr. Leong
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Honestly I'm not sure if this would be any cheaper as because those boards where customized for us they had a much higher price tag per board then the board used in the BDP-3 main board. I'll see if Mike Picket can investigate a solution for you, he deals with the cost of repair and parts.
Chris
Okay, please ask Mike and let me know.
Thank you Chris!
Cheers,
Antun
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Hello,
That's quite odd, if you place the BDP into service mode and email me the service id I can take a look remotely.
http://support.bryston.com/downloads/BDP/Manic%20Moose%20Manual.pdf
Chris
Thank you so much Chris!
You have fixed the issue with the new firmware update!!!
Thumbsup!
Mr. Leong
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Hey Chris, I have a question about the display of languages. For instance, my BDP-1 displays Enn Átti Loki Fleiri Börn as Enn ?tti Loki Fleiri B?rn, yet it displays song titles like Hel, jag vet mig väntar correctly. It doesn't even have a problem with the title of the latter's album name - Faþir. On the other hand, with the former, it just displays the title, while with the latter (different artist) it displays the complete route ahead of the title. It really wigs out with Russian. :lol: Obviously, this is not a serious issue nor is this a complaint, just a curiosity. All of my music ripped from CDs is in WAV format with very spotty metadata, so feel free to point the blame finger at me. :slap:
S2.42 2020-04-15
Build: Manic Moose
MPD: 0.19.21
Kernel: 3.16-0.bpo.2-486
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Hey Chris, I have a question about the display of languages. For instance, my BDP-1 displays Enn Átti Loki Fleiri Börn as Enn ?tti Loki Fleiri B?rn, yet it displays song titles like Hel, jag vet mig väntar correctly. It doesn't even have a problem with the title of the latter's album name - Faþir. On the other hand, with the former, it just displays the title, while with the latter (different artist) it displays the complete route ahead of the title. It really wigs out with Russian. :lol: Obviously, this is not a serious issue nor is this a complaint, just a curiosity. All of my music ripped from CDs is in WAV format with very spotty metadata, so feel free to point the blame finger at me. :slap:
S2.42 2020-04-15
Build: Manic Moose
MPD: 0.19.21
Kernel: 3.16-0.bpo.2-486
That's hard to say, BDP's have difficulties picking up tag data from WAV files to begin with and accented characters need to be formatted at utf-8. Part of the problem could also be at some point I think I got so tired of WAV files being difficult I may have just made the title the file name due to some wierd problem. If you place your unit into service mode and email or pm me the service id I can take a look remotely.
Chris
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Hey Chris, I have a question about the display of languages. For instance, my BDP-1 displays Enn Átti Loki Fleiri Börn as Enn ?tti Loki Fleiri B?rn, yet it displays song titles like Hel, jag vet mig väntar correctly. It doesn't even have a problem with the title of the latter's album name - Faþir. On the other hand, with the former, it just displays the title, while with the latter (different artist) it displays the complete route ahead of the title. It really wigs out with Russian. :lol: Obviously, this is not a serious issue nor is this a complaint, just a curiosity. All of my music ripped from CDs is in WAV format with very spotty metadata, so feel free to point the blame finger at me. :slap:
S2.42 2020-04-15
Build: Manic Moose
MPD: 0.19.21
Kernel: 3.16-0.bpo.2-486
If you use dbpoweramp, you get all cover art importing wav files.
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Hi Chris!
I have a few questions regarding my BDP-2 player.
1. What is the model number of the button-type backup battery on the motherboard?
2. Can I purchase a spare motherboard and the front panel PCB which includes the display and the button arrangement and how much do they cost?
3. Are the parts under count (2) user-replaceable?
4. When you look at the BDP-2 from the rear, there is a provision on the far left side that's covered with a metal rectangular piece held by two screws, presumably for additional USB ports. Is this an option then and how would these additional USB ports be connected to the motherboard inside the BDP-2?
5. Can the part under count (4) be installed by the user and how much does the part cost?
6. What is the maximum capacity for the internal disk drive? Can I use both conventional HDD and SSD?
Thank you for your time!
Cheers,
Antun
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1) Cell battery should be CR2032. It is on the BDP-1 at least.
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Hi Chris!
I have a few questions regarding my BDP-2 player.
1. What is the model number of the button-type backup battery on the motherboard?
2. Can I purchase a spare motherboard and the front panel PCB which includes the display and the button arrangement and how much do they cost?
3. Are the parts under count (2) user-replaceable?
4. When you look at the BDP-2 from the rear, there is a provision on the far left side that's covered with a metal rectangular piece held by two screws, presumably for additional USB ports. Is this an option then and how would these additional USB ports be connected to the motherboard inside the BDP-2?
5. Can the part under count (4) be installed by the user and how much does the part cost?
6. What is the maximum capacity for the internal disk drive? Can I use both conventional HDD and SSD?
Thank you for your time!
Cheers,
Antun
The battery should be a CR2032, but it should also be etched into the battery itself. There really isn't anything stopping any one from replacing there mainboard, there's no soldering involved and cables connected to and from the board are removable.
As far as the cost goes you'll need to email us, it won't be cheap though as those boards where custom made for us and make up roughly 30% of the original cost of the unit.
http://old.bryston.com/pages/contact.html
i wouldn't install anything larger then 2TB in a BDP-2, larger drives may work but there could be boot compatibility issues.
Chris
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1) Cell battery should be CR2032. It is on the BDP-1 at least.
Thanks mate!
Cheers,
Antun
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The battery should be a CR2032, but it should also be etched into the battery itself. There really isn't anything stopping any one from replacing there mainboard, there's no soldering involved and cables connected to and from the board are removable.
As far as the cost goes you'll need to email us, it won't be cheap though as those boards where custom made for us and make up roughly 30% of the original cost of the unit.
http://old.bryston.com/pages/contact.html
i wouldn't install anything larger then 2TB in a BDP-2, larger drives may work but there could be boot compatibility issues.
Chris
Thanks Chris!
OK, I will send you guys an email about the pricing.
Can you please tell me about the provision on the rear paenl? Is it a usable expansion port for USB or some othr type of a connection?
Cheers,
Antun
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Thanks Chris!
OK, I will send you guys an email about the pricing.
Can you please tell me about the provision on the rear paenl? Is it a usable expansion port for USB or some othr type of a connection?
Cheers,
Antun
We were going to release a USB 3.0 option once the software was updated to take advantage of it, but then we never released the upgrade kit. Then years later someone asked us about it and because the BDP-3 uses a USB 3.0 board that's compatible with the BDP-2 I put together a upgrade kit, passed the info to management and then it never went anywhere. If your interested you could try ordering one, but it could prove difficult and confusing, but apparently its worked before and lead to Bryston offering dress panels in both black and silver and not just black.
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=213525)
Chris
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i wouldn't install anything larger then 2TB in a BDP-2, larger drives may work but there could be boot compatibility issues.
Chris
Hey Chris, does this recommendation apply only to an internal drive or is there a limit on total connected storage?
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Error
Bryston DB disk full
What does this mean? According to Disk Information, I have a 932G internal disk drive with 358G free. (/dev/sdb1) and a 4 TB external drive. I have been using this for several years now and have never seen the bright red error message banner.
I had tried to put a 16GB USB flash drive in the rear (configured as vfat) and set it up as a SCRATCH disk, but it is "Writeable: ro", so I suppose it is useless. (What good is a scratch drive that you can't write to?). How can I make the flash drive r/w and if I do that and make it a SCRATCH drive, will that solve my "Bryston DB disk full" error? Up until now the utilization of the flash drive has been 3.5G out of 16G and stays constant at that after I define it as a SCRATCH disk. What is being stored there if the BDP cannot write to that drive? :scratch: :scratch: :scratch:
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Hi
I am David and this is my first post on this forum.
When I log onto the Dashboard from my PC I get a message "Device PMCNAS01 not connecting for unknown reason"
I am not aware of anything failing to work.
Can you tell me what this is about and what if anything I should do about it.
Thx
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Hi
I am David and this is my first post on this forum.
When I log onto the Dashboard from my PC I get a message "Device PMCNAS01 not connecting for unknown reason"
I am not aware of anything failing to work.
Can you tell me what this is about and what if anything I should do about it.
Thx
It means your BDP has been configured to connect to a NAS and the BDP is unable to establish a connection with it. If you bought the unit second it could be an old entry.
Chris
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Thank you Chris
I have no NAS - will have to work out how to unset that.
Guessed it couldn't be anything too serious
David
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Did you check NAS Setup settings page?
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Need your help. Sorry if this is long
I have a bdp 2, which has been running quite fine until recently. What happened is I replaced my router/network device at home and now none of my devices can connect to the bdp :scratch:
If I manually push "restart network services" it briefly appears - both in the mpd program that I use (rigelian) and a web interface, but only for some 10 seconds and then disappears..
The BDP is plugged in ethernet port (my router app "sees" a "wired client", so I'm sure that the connection is actual in place)
checked the IP address - both the player and the router show the same IP, but neither my MacBook nor any of the iOS devices discover the player.
the software version is S2.42 2019-12.02
What am I doing wrong? what can I do?
Thank you!
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Did you check NAS Setup settings page?
I removed the (non existent) NAS and the error message has gone. :thumb:
However I have another issue. The SSD (internal to the BDP 2) does not show up in the Network Tab
of Windows Explorer on my Win7 PC. :(
Not sure if it was there before the change.
The routing is rather convoluted: PC - Firewall/VPN Server - Switch - Access Point - BDP 2.
The connection works ok in that I can use the PC to initiate tracks from the SSD - connect internet radio etc.
So my new issue is how to copy new music from my PC to the SSD? :duh:
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Need your help. Sorry if this is long
I have a bdp 2, which has been running quite fine until recently. What happened is I replaced my router/network device at home and now none of my devices can connect to the bdp :scratch:
If I manually push "restart network services" it briefly appears - both in the mpd program that I use (rigelian) and a web interface, but only for some 10 seconds and then disappears..
The BDP is plugged in ethernet port (my router app "sees" a "wired client", so I'm sure that the connection is actual in place)
checked the IP address - both the player and the router show the same IP, but neither my MacBook nor any of the iOS devices discover the player.
the software version is S2.42 2019-12.02
What am I doing wrong? what can I do?
Thank you!
Have you tried to reset rather then restart the network settings or perform a factory reset?
Chris
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I removed the (non existent) NAS and the error message has gone. :thumb:
However I have another issue. The SSD (internal to the BDP 2) does not show up in the Network Tab
of Windows Explorer on my Win7 PC. :(
Not sure if it was there before the change.
The routing is rather convoluted: PC - Firewall/VPN Server - Switch - Access Point - BDP 2.
The connection works ok in that I can use the PC to initiate tracks from the SSD - connect internet radio etc.
So my new issue is how to copy new music from my PC to the SSD? :duh:
Have you tried connecting to the BDP by specifying the IP address?
\\<bdps ip address>\
Chris
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Have you tried connecting to the BDP by specifying the IP address?
\\<bdps ip address>\
Chris
Sorry if I am being dense here.
Yes I can connect to the MM dashboard using my internet browser and the IP address but how do I get from there to copying music?
David
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Hi Bryston People,
I don't know why a TIDAL playlist would show song info and art for some artists (Duran Duran/Roxy Music/etc) and nothing for other artists (Blue Monday song...artist not shown). Plus the song titles are numeric garbage!
I have a BDP-1 with updated firmware S2.44.
Tidal is on lossless.
MPD settings allow for Bryston DB, scraping etc
Reboot the system.
Nothing amiss when I check playlists using tidal app on laptop.
I searched Audio Circle for a similar issue and solution before asking.
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=215568)
Any help would be helpful!
Thanks,
Richard
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Sorry if I am being dense here.
Yes I can connect to the MM dashboard using my internet browser and the IP address but how do I get from there to copying music?
David
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=215587)
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Very sorry but whatever you are trying to get me to do - I cannot get to work
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=215589)
Other devices on my network are available.
If I type the ip address in the top line - then Internet Explorer is launched and I am at The Dashboard
At a loss as to what I am supposed to be doing
Addendum
I have found that a second Win 7 PC on the network can "see" the BDP 2 in Windows Explorer and so I can copy music from it.
My main PC can see everything except the Bryston.
So go figure !!!
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I know at one stage Microsoft released a version of Windows 10 that couldn’t see old Samba based connections and you had to get in and change some settings in Windows. I can’t remember the details and you say you’re using Windows 7 but maybe there is a related update that caused this in Windows 7 as well.
I’m sure this is a Microsoft issue.
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Have you tried to reset rather then restart the network settings or perform a factory reset?
Chris
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=215815)
I did now, but I’d required some fast typing before the BDP disappears from the web interface
It stood some time with the U symbol on (I assume it did reset to factory settings) after that the symbol changes to full square/dot and the interface is as on the picture. It’s not responding to any actions through the web interface, but responds just fine to its own onboard controls and plays music just fine
I can still see it as wired client through the router interface showing IP and MAC
Can I try anything else? Thank you!
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Have you tried to reset rather then restart the network settings or perform a factory reset?
Chris
May be this is the indication of a problem?
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=215834)
But it’s still unclear why the player does become visible/discoverable albeit for a very short time
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*WHEW* First post ! Been a while since I was last on any message boards, looks like the antispam features have advanced abit..
Hi ! Audiophile from Canada (Alberta) and am looking for a helpful hint (not allowed to search posts yet and was only able to jump through a few dozen pages looking for help - before joining).
Bryston BDP-2 latest firmware [for the sake of simplicity, presume the following has been done: boot/reboot/reset to factory/pwr on/pwr off/single 128gb usb key(worked AOK a few months ago, the last time I had this out with a teac DAC and headphones)/control via mac/firefox/ipad/safari is "ok"] - if this is of note, everything unplugged on boot up BDP chirps 1 time. with a USB and P6 in 3 times..
I have just purchased a Parasound P6 to use with the BDP-2 (as a DAC/2.1 pre/decent phono stage etc), they ar not playing nice.
The challenge:
When I plug the Parasound into the BDP-2, the dashboard updates seeing the P6 - "Parasound - USB Audio (DSD Enabled)" with a second entry below "Parasound - USB Audio #1 (DSD Enabled)", great news!
luck of the draw if MPD stays active for a few seconds then just shuts down or is completely inactive (I have powered up BDP first, P6 first with no predictable change).
With mpd down although the USB disk with music is visible in disk information, player does not have access to it.
Twice I have been able to rapidly select a track and have 1 sec of music release befor MPD gets grumpy.
Direction is appreciated,
THANK YOU!!
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May be this is the indication of a problem?
But it’s still unclear why the player does become visible/discoverable albeit for a very short time
The BDP-2 has two network connections, so it's normal that one of them would be down.
Using the down arrow button on the from of the unit you can check the status of the network interfaces and should tell you if both interfaces are down or if one if the interfaces is still reporting an IP address.
Chris
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*WHEW* First post ! Been a while since I was last on any message boards, looks like the antispam features have advanced abit..
Hi ! Audiophile from Canada (Alberta) and am looking for a helpful hint (not allowed to search posts yet and was only able to jump through a few dozen pages looking for help - before joining).
Bryston BDP-2 latest firmware [for the sake of simplicity, presume the following has been done: boot/reboot/reset to factory/pwr on/pwr off/single 128gb usb key(worked AOK a few months ago, the last time I had this out with a teac DAC and headphones)/control via mac/firefox/ipad/safari is "ok"] - if this is of note, everything unplugged on boot up BDP chirps 1 time. with a USB and P6 in 3 times..
I have just purchased a Parasound P6 to use with the BDP-2 (as a DAC/2.1 pre/decent phono stage etc), they ar not playing nice.
The challenge:
When I plug the Parasound into the BDP-2, the dashboard updates seeing the P6 - "Parasound - USB Audio (DSD Enabled)" with a second entry below "Parasound - USB Audio #1 (DSD Enabled)", great news!
luck of the draw if MPD stays active for a few seconds then just shuts down or is completely inactive (I have powered up BDP first, P6 first with no predictable change).
With mpd down although the USB disk with music is visible in disk information, player does not have access to it.
Twice I have been able to rapidly select a track and have 1 sec of music release befor MPD gets grumpy.
Direction is appreciated,
THANK YOU!!
Hi,
Is your music stored on a usb drive?
Each input has a button labeled either enable or disable to either enable or disable the interface and as your dac is displaying two interfaces it could be you need to disable one of the two.
Chris
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Hi,
Is your music stored on a usb drive?
Each input has a button labeled either enable or disable to either enable or disable the interface and as your dac is displaying two interfaces it could be you need to disable one of the two.
Chris
Afternoon, thank you for the quick response.
-Music is stored on a USB (at my fathers recommendation/who has a BDP-2 as well) I have un-mounted and re-mounted the USB key in multiple ports.
-Under "Audio Devices" clicking the Enable/Disable or unmarking the check box only results in it being re-enabled automatically.
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Afternoon, thank you for the quick response.
-Music is stored on a USB (at my fathers recommendation/who has a BDP-2 as well) I have un-mounted and re-mounted the USB key in multiple ports.
-Under "Audio Devices" clicking the Enable/Disable or unmarking the check box only results in it being re-enabled automatically.
UPDATE
USB installed in back of BDP-2, stopped and started MPD manually; I now have access to music in the player AND we have playback.
Playback is interspersed with short .5 sec burst of static, randomly. (multiple compressed formats, flac, wav tested so far with various file sizes. I have not dared any of my DSD or high bit rate PCM files yet)
Thanks again for any help!
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The BDP-2 has two network connections, so it's normal that one of them would be down.
Using the down arrow button on the from of the unit you can check the status of the network interfaces and should tell you if both interfaces are down or if one if the interfaces is still reporting an IP address.
Chris
Both of them are showing as “down”
Also when I scroll with the down button both eth0 and eth1 show “offline”
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UPDATE
USB installed in back of BDP-2, stopped and started MPD manually; I now have access to music in the player AND we have playback.
Playback is interspersed with short .5 sec burst of static, randomly. (multiple compressed formats, flac, wav tested so far with various file sizes. I have not dared any of my DSD or high bit rate PCM files yet)
Thanks again for any help!
UPDATE 2: SOLVED (with learning!)
Everything is working smoothly. For good measure I reformatted my USB keys and recopied the music across. My 128GB is installed rear lower, beside the output to the Parasound P6 - this configuration has proved perfectly stable for the past 4 days with multiple on/off cycles.
One little note; I lost visibility to a second (64GB) USB key with mostly DSD albums, I may have inadvertently clicked it as a swap disk? When checking it on my WIN10 PC I noticed a file named mpdignore.
Deleting this file and the swap files, brought the disk into view with all files intact once remounted to the BDP-2.
Thank you all!
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Good day,
i’ve encountered the following problem on bryston bdp-1: when i’m trying to change the track it takes from 3 to 6 minutes until it starts playing, at the same time tracks in the queue play without delay. Another roon endpoints in the same network and roon core do not have such problems. I suppose the key is some settings in bryston or its firmware etc. I’m not very experienced in this, could you guys please help ?
just to clarify - problem occurs in tidal, local files switch without delay.
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Hey Chris,
Ltns...
sorry if this has been answered before, but I am getting back to investigating my BDP1 (or do I need a BDP3...?) and see this
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=217413)
when I click on the Find out whats new? in the frontend which links to http://vps96186.vps.ovh.ca/docs/whatsnew/manicmoose/2.44/
just a minor glitch, but, well, its on the front page ;-)
cheers,
Marius
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Hi. Hoping for some advice on getting Tidal working again on my BDP1. I had been using it successfully a couple of years ago but for whatever reason am having a hard time now. I do notice that the login is now from the media player. I have the latest update installed. The BDP1 says I am logged into Tidal but when I try to load Tidal music songs I repeatedly get this message “ Tidal, OAuth access token missing”. Tried finding something on this site but difficult since I am not allowed to search (need more than 3 posts). Thxs for any help you can give me. Bill B
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Yup I am having the same issue too with BDP-1 with the latest firmware. Logged into Tidal no problem but I get this message “ Tidal, OAuth access token missing” whne trying to play.
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Hi
Chris is aware of the issue with the BDP-1 (its starting to run at its limit with all these new features) and he is trying to come up with a solution.
james
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Thxs for update. If Chris cannot find a solution, guidance on going back to an older software version would be helpful.
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Greetings Bryston Team - and Happy New Year:
I've had a BDP-2 for several years now, works wonderfully. Especially enjoy playing high-res files (96 and 192) from a connected external HD, from there data go to my Schiit Yggdrasil DAC which dutifully makes an audible click and changes sampling rate indicator lights when high-res files are sent over.
For Christmas, I got a subscription to TIDAL HiFi, was indeed able to login to TIDAL account in Manic Moose and play MQA files through the BDP-2.
BUT - on they Manic Moose player, it shows that MQA files are being streamed to my DAC at 44 / 16, and DAC indicators agree.
I was a little surprised by that, thought MQA files were supposed to be higher resolution?
If someone (Chris / Jim? ) could please explain how the BDP's handle MQA audio that would be great, in particular it would be interesting to know what happens when a streamer / DAC can't "unfold" the MQA file - does the interface just signal the Tidal service not to bother with high-res and to just send over a 44/16 file instead?
Or is there something happening in the BDP (or MPD) software that results in what looks like down sampling from the MQA (Master) level files?
Thanks!
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Greetings Bryston Team - and Happy New Year:
I've had a BDP-2 for several years now, works wonderfully. Especially enjoy playing high-res files (96 and 192) from a connected external HD, from there data go to my Schiit Yggdrasil DAC which dutifully makes an audible click and changes sampling rate indicator lights when high-res files are sent over.
For Christmas, I got a subscription to TIDAL HiFi, was indeed able to login to TIDAL account in Manic Moose and play MQA files through the BDP-2.
BUT - on they Manic Moose player, it shows that MQA files are being streamed to my DAC at 44 / 16, and DAC indicators agree.
I was a little surprised by that, thought MQA files were supposed to be higher resolution?
If someone (Chris / Jim? ) could please explain how the BDP's handle MQA audio that would be great, in particular it would be interesting to know what happens when a streamer / DAC can't "unfold" the MQA file - does the interface just signal the Tidal service not to bother with high-res and to just send over a 44/16 file instead?
Or is there something happening in the BDP (or MPD) software that results in what looks like down sampling from the MQA (Master) level files?
Thanks!
That's not how MQA functions, MQA files are cd quality files containing "folded" data and if you play them on a device that supports "unfolding" them you get either 96khz sample rate (done locally within a software package) or 192khz sample if unfolded a second time using software embedded within a DAC (for example a USB interface). Currently we don't support any MQA "unfolding" at any level and I don't for see the companies policy changing anytime soon. To answer your question, any Bryston player or DAC simply plays them in there native cd quality format without performing any "unfolding".
Chris
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Thank you Chris, this is very helpful. Very much appreciated.
There are many descriptions of how MQA "works" out there (some conflicting) yours was very lucid, especially with regards to the BDP-2.
Just so I'm 100% clear here, when streaming with a device that doesn't perform either of the two "unfolds" of an MQA file (like the BDP-2), the "masters" file and the Tidal "HIFI" version would be expected to sound the about the same?
Apologies for my curiosity, am an electrical engineer by training, but new to streaming audio.
CD
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Hi Chris,
please let me ask about the MPD versioning.
I am using Home Assistant's MPD integration (https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/mpd/) to have a media_player card show the device and its (now available) album art. Unfortunately, using the BDP-1 and highest version 0.19.21, this isn't possible, as it seems MPD supports album art only since 0.21? see: https://github.com/mopidy/mopidy-mpd/issues/17#issuecomment-597529447
Is this something we can expect Bryston to do, update the MPD to a more modern version? After all, 0.19.21 is over 4 years old....
this is a Home Assistant community post I did on the subject: https://community.home-assistant.io/t/how-to-get-the-new-m-usic-p-layer-d-aemon-image-to-appear/265301
and an issue in the GitHub: https://github.com/home-assistant/core/issues/44931
please have a look?
It would really be cool to be able to show the perfect view of the BDP in Home Assistant, and even better control it. We can already issue play/pause/stop command, and load stored playlists.
Thanks!
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Thank you Chris, this is very helpful. Very much appreciated.
There are many descriptions of how MQA "works" out there (some conflicting) yours was very lucid, especially with regards to the BDP-2.
Just so I'm 100% clear here, when streaming with a device that doesn't perform either of the two "unfolds" of an MQA file (like the BDP-2), the "masters" file and the Tidal "HIFI" version would be expected to sound the about the same?
Apologies for my curiosity, am an electrical engineer by training, but new to streaming audio.
CD
I can't say for sure if its the exact same file because of how TIDAL functions and this might be a better question to ask them. With that said it is the same sample and bit rate and thus they should sound the same.
Chris
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Hi Chris,
please let me ask about the MPD versioning.
I am using Home Assistant's MPD integration (https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/mpd/) to have a media_player card show the device and its (now available) album art. Unfortunately, using the BDP-1 and highest version 0.19.21, this isn't possible, as it seems MPD supports album art only since 0.21? see: https://github.com/mopidy/mopidy-mpd/issues/17#issuecomment-597529447
Is this something we can expect Bryston to do, update the MPD to a more modern version? After all, 0.19.21 is over 4 years old....
this is a Home Assistant community post I did on the subject: https://community.home-assistant.io/t/how-to-get-the-new-m-usic-p-layer-d-aemon-image-to-appear/265301
and an issue in the GitHub: https://github.com/home-assistant/core/issues/44931
please have a look?
It would really be cool to be able to show the perfect view of the BDP in Home Assistant, and even better control it. We can already issue play/pause/stop command, and load stored playlists.
Thanks!
All I can say is MPD won't be updated till Manic Moose is replaced with its successor and Im not sure when that will be.
Chris
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All I can say is MPD won't be updated till Manic Moose is replaced with its successor and Im not sure when that will be.
Chris
Aww that's too bad really. Couldn't this be done in some experimental beta version at all? Or would it cause the need for a complete rewrite of the MM interface. Guess I kinda hoped it to only add some extra functionality without interfering with the current firmware, since it is an external library, and we already have the choice between versions.
Updating this 4 year old should be somewhere high on a priority wishlist... ?
thx.
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Aww that's too bad really. Couldn't this be done in some experimental beta version at all? Or would it cause the need for a complete rewrite of the MM interface. Guess I kinda hoped it to only add some extra functionality without interfering with the current firmware, since it is an external library, and we already have the choice between versions.
Updating this 4 year old should be somewhere high on a priority wishlist... ?
thx.
Did you get a BDP-2? Some BDP-1's are over a decade old.
Chris
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Did you get a BDP-2? Some BDP-1's are over a decade old.
Chris
Nope, still on a Bdp-1 which indeed has been around for some time now;-)
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Couple quick questions, I know the newest BDP i.e BDP-3 is Roon Ready but are the older units also Roon Ready?
If a surround sound processor is also Roon Ready would that essentially mean there would be no need for using the BDP at all in that setup? For example my current SSP is most definitely not Roon Ready, it was purchased back in 2006 :) and also the reason for me purchasing a BDP-2 a number of years ago so that I could stream from my ripped CD's and purchased digital files on my NAS because the old SSP did not have these features. This was also before I purchased an Oppo BDP-205. However, it's also a guarantee that when I replace the SSP this year whatever SSP I get will be Roon Ready so I'm thinking wouldn't that make the BDP-2 and Oppo BDP-205 essentially obsolete for digital streaming devices?
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Hi all,
Would like to know if you some of you is using an SSD digital drive with a BDP-1 player, if yes what drive do you use. I am now using a WD HDD 500 GM drive but would like to replace it with a SSD one as it is getting old (8 years) and fear that it dies someday. Thanks
Gilles
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Hi all,
Would like to know if you some of you is using an SSD digital drive with a BDP-1 player, if yes what drive do you use. I am now using a WD HDD 500 GM drive but would like to replace it with a SSD one as it is getting old (8 years) and fear that it dies someday. Thanks
Gilles
Don't have an internal drive in the BDP-2 but generally, for reliability and value I've been going for Crucial MX500. It's a premium SSD, though not enterprise, so the TBW is good, which we don't care about here. It also has DRAM so the writes will be fast if you're the impatient sort. :wink: Any drive will do really, since you have everything backed up, of course, so a failure will only be a nuisance. It's not like SQ can be affected since the BDP caches the data, if memory serves.
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Don't have an internal drive in the BDP-2 but generally, for reliability and value I've been going for Crucial MX500. It's a premium SSD, though not enterprise, so the TBW is good, which we don't care about here. It also has DRAM so the writes will be fast if you're the impatient sort. :wink: Any drive will do really, since you have everything backed up, of course, so a failure will only be a nuisance. It's not like SQ can be affected since the BDP caches the data, if memory serves.
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Yeah MX500 and 860 Evo are the best SSDs for 2.5" SATA with the 860 Evo being even better. I went with 860 Evo for two of my computers because of their speed in all kinds of test as well as highest TBW in that class. For music storage, that ability in either won't really matter but these are the safest sata SSD drives out there. Regardless, as you have said the music should still be backed up.
The 860 Evo retails for more than MX500, but during big sales, the 860 Evo can actually be cheaper than MX500 since it has in-store presence like Best Buy, unlike the Crucial which is primarily online. MX500 can be had for reasonable prices almost at anytime throughout the year. The 860 Evo are best left for annual sales like Black Friday or Boxing Day. I don't buy or recommend anything outside of these two drives if performance and reliability are paramount.
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I have some folders my BDP-2 will not recognize and include in its database of music. I run "update" after adding music to my attached USB hard drive. Most folders are added to the existing database, but some are not.
I am unable to discern anything different about these folders. There are no special characters, the file names are no longer than others. The scratch drive and the music drive have plenty of room.
Media player sees the music in these folders. They music is properly identified, but cover art is not displayed. If clicked on, music currently playing stops but the music clicked on does not play. The folder.jpg album art is in the folder, but the BDP versions of the album art typically added by running "update" do not exist.
What can I do to get these folders recognized by my BDP?
Ideas? Things to look for?
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I'm having a, perhaps, related problem.
The tracks in one album are not showing up in the database as being associated with that album. Instead they are showing up on my BDP in the track listing for a different album.
The directory structure in my library is each album is in a separate folder. The correct files show up in each folder.
Apparently, the database uses some other indicator than filename and folder name for how to associate files.
I use the exactly the same directory structure for a PC running JRiver and it gets it right.
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Media player sees the music in these folders. They music is properly identified, but cover art is not displayed. If clicked on, music currently playing stops but the music clicked on does not play. The folder.jpg album art is in the folder, but the BDP versions of the album art typically added by running "update" do not exist.
Hi Wapiti, I have a very similar issue. I have the BDP-3 though... but I have about 4 music folders that won't have the cover art recognized. I have scrubbed the metadata to the nth degree with a third party metadata editor to ensure all metadata including artwork is where it should be. But in the BDP when I updated the music folder it does not show cover art. When I click into the folder and get to the album folder the artwork appears at this level!. Looking at the files I see the Bryston DB jpeg files (3 versions).
The artist folders that have the problem are: Chubby Checker, Cat Stevens, Go-Go's, and B-52's. All of the other artists have the exact same metadata format and Bryston DB files and the art work works flawlessly. It just doesn't make sense.
Chris any insights or advice?
Cheers,
Richard
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I determined the cause of my issue (album and tracks identified by the BDP, no album art, when clicked on the music does not play).
The folders, files, and art were all as usual.
The issue was that I had included a subfolder for each of the problematic music folders in which I placed the cue file created while ripping.
I deleted the subfolders, deleting the cue files. Upon updating my BDP-2 all cover art was recognized and the tracks will now play once clicked on.
The BDP-2 did not like the cue files in the subfolders.
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Does anyone know how to stream Apple music directly to the BDP3 without using Apple TV?
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Does anyone know how to stream Apple music directly to the BDP3 without using Apple TV?
I think the only way would be to use shairport-sync with airplay.
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I think the only way would be to use shairport-sync with airplay.
Thank you Chris. I will try it tonight.
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What controls the order tracks are listed in?
My files are named <track no.> <track name>, so the tracks always appear in the correct order in windows when listed alphabetically. In album view, in some folders, the tracks appear in a different order. The track order provides a convenient, zero effort, implied playlist when the order is right. It's inconvenient for classical pieces to have movements interleaved with other works.
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Hello, I own a BDP-1 USB and have been using it for several years. Now I have a problem because when I put it into operation in Roon mode it works for me for a minute the BDP1 appears in Roon and after a while the BDP1 of roon disappears and it remains blocked, the buttons do not go and it does not allow access through its IP . Can you help me.
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Hi,
Do you know if there is any compatibility issue between BDP-2 and DAC Matrix X Sabre Pro ?
Thank you
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I think the only way would be to use shairport-sync with airplay.
I have tried shariport-syn. What is suppose to happen next? I still cannot get airplay through the BDP-3.
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Hi everyone! I am considering the BDP-2 to replace my Cd player with an Audio Note DAC 1.1 Signature.
I don't have an ethernet connection in my listening room and wish to use the front buttons.
I see from the specs that the front screen only supports two rows of 23 characters...may I know your opinion, is the BDP-2 usable without an internet connection?
I have checked my library and some album names are quite long...I wonder how the bryston handles long names in the front screen? Are the names trimmed or it is possible to see the whole folder and file name?
Thank in advance for the help. Cheers.
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Hi everyone! I am considering the BDP-2 to replace my Cd player with an Audio Note DAC 1.1 Signature.
I don't have an ethernet connection in my listening room and wish to use the front buttons.
I see from the specs that the front screen only supports two rows of 23 characters...may I know your opinion, is the BDP-2 usable without an internet connection?
I have checked my library and some album names are quite long...I wonder how the bryston handles long names in the front screen? Are the names trimmed or it is possible to see the whole folder and file name?
Thank in advance for the help. Cheers.
Hi
I would not recommend using the front display for anything other than monitoring or looking for IP address etc.
james
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Hi James,
thank you for your super quick reply.
May I know if it still possible to purchase the mini wireless dongle?
Regards
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Hi James,
thank you for your super quick reply.
May I know if it still possible to purchase the mini wireless dongle?
Regards
Hi
Yes the dongle is available
james
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Hi James,
How do I get help?
My BDP-1 is stuck on sorting music into Bryston DB:6%.
I can't play music anymore...
Thanks
Peter
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Hi James,
How do I get help?
My BDP-1 is stuck on sorting music into Bryston DB:6%.
I can't play music anymore...
Thanks
Peter
OK - email Adam at atanner@bryston.com and see if he can help.
james
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I just picked up a BDP-2 and its working great but I was hoping to be able to transfer music to it from my computer over the network. I cannot see the BDP-2 on my network though but I can access the webpage and control it. Is there something special I need to do? Thanks in advance!
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I just picked up a BDP-2 and its working great but I was hoping to be able to transfer music to it from my computer over the network. I cannot see the BDP-2 on my network though but I can access the webpage and control it. Is there something special I need to do? Thanks in advance!
HI
Please email Adam at - atanner@bryston.com
james
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https://support.wdc.com/knowledgebase/answer.aspx?ID=20736
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I have updated to firmware S.2.44 on my BDP-1， and started to get pop up messages of lost connection from time to time. Not sure if the machine is too old to run the new firmware? Should I downgrade the firmware to a lower version, and how?
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Hi
Chris may want to add more but it is just a new feature that warns you if you loose a connection. If it resets after a second or so all is well.
james
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I have updated to firmware S.2.44 on my BDP-1， and started to get pop up messages of lost connection from time to time. Not sure if the machine is too old to run the new firmware? Should I downgrade the firmware to a lower version, and how?
The feedback is new, so its possible this condition was occurring without your knowledge before applying the update. If its occurring once in a while its likely just a momentary wireless drop which is some what normal. If its occurring consistently then there might either be a problem or you've stumbled upon a software bug that we haven't seen.
Chris
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Hi Chris. I have the same problem with my BDP-3 when using my cellphone's web browser... and it's occurring consistently. (not occuring when using my laptop).
Francois
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The feedback is new, so its possible this condition was occurring without your knowledge before applying the update. If its occurring once in a while its likely just a momentary wireless drop which is some what normal. If its occurring consistently then there might either be a problem or you've stumbled upon a software bug that we haven't seen.
Chris
James, Chris, thank you both. The message is indeed momentary, and I do not notice it affect playback.
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Having connection issues with my Bryston BDP1. Noticed in the FAQ circle that a few others has had similar problems that I an encountering. I get the connection than lose it. This appear to be occurring just recently after I installed the new firmware.
I did get the cable company to send me a new modem, replaced the ethernet cable with a new one and no change.
Did reach out to Bryston support via their web page but no response.
Did people who had issues get a resolution??
Any input would be great.
thanks
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I still have the lost connection message. Must exit application and open it back to "resolve" the problem.
Francois
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=232441)
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When I lose the connection, BDP1 loses the IP address, a can't open the bryston player on the computer or the app
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Hi,
Have you tried replacing your ethernet cable from the modem to the bryston bdp1? I did this and it appears to be work now. I had the exact same issue as you.
Cheers Rod
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Yes I did that, no change.
Think I'll have to call bryston next week
Thanks
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Contact Chris - crice@bryston.com
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I've been using the BDP-2 with latest version of Manic Moose for years, but have never been able to get Artist View working. Because of this I just use Default View, and dig through the folders. I previously used external apps like Rigelian and MPad, but would really like to use the Bryston native interface.
When I select Artist View (after enabling Bryston DB), Save, Reset DB and Reboot, I always get the message:
"Unable to find MPD (tag_cache) database file". I have a scratch file set up on my direct-connected WD Passport USB drive.
Does anyone know how to resolve this issue?
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For any interested Jazzgroove.org Premium hi-res subscribers, I wrote a guide on how to play Jazzgroove hi-res URL streams on the BDP:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vSZ6dlEmdHYiGEyYc0E73RnhGhg3Pwwjfdex8-K46LYWq5WZN7dGtqoe4pXPbDcrg/pub
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Hello!
This one is for Chris and anyone who feels like they can answer my questions.
They are mostly about using the BDP-2 with an SSD:
1. What is the fastest solution:
- an internal SATA drive,
- an external SATA drive connected to the eSATA connector in the rear,
- an external USB drive?
2. Which generation of SATA is available in the BDP-2 and is the machine capable of utilizing this protocol to the fullest or is it limited by it's system bus?
3. Are there any specific SSD makes and models that work better than others with the BDP-2 and which one and what size would you recommend?
4. Considering an upgrade from a BDP-2 to BDP-3 costs 1.500 USD, is it possible to buy a replacement BDP-2 motherboard in case I need a new one in the future and how much does it cost?
Thanks a lot!
Antun
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Hello!
This one is for Chris and anyone who feels like they can answer my questions.
They are mostly about using the BDP-2 with an SSD:
1. What is the fastest solution:
- an internal SATA drive,
- an external SATA drive connected to the eSATA connector in the rear,
- an external USB drive?
2. Which generation of SATA is available in the BDP-2 and is the machine capable of utilizing this protocol to the fullest or is it limited by it's system bus?
3. Are there any specific SSD makes and models that work better than others with the BDP-2 and which one and what size would you recommend?
4. Considering an upgrade from a BDP-2 to BDP-3 costs 1.500 USD, is it possible to buy a replacement BDP-2 motherboard in case I need a new one in the future and how much does it cost?
Thanks a lot!
Antun
Anyone please?
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I spoke with Chris Rice about storage quite a ways back and as I recall, he said there is nothing slow enough to have any impact whatsoever, presumably meaning an old 5400 RPM mobile drive. He also wasn't recommending mounting it internally just because in the event of failure, replacing it would be a lot more bother that way, meaning that there is no performance gain to be had. (Of course, if we did listening "tests" I can pretty much guarantee that you and I would both hear a difference, but it's an artifact of human brain function, which is why we are well advised to trust the Bryston folks about these things.) SATA drives conform to a set of standards so no matching with systems is required for compatibility reasons.
On another occasion, I also spoke with Chris Russell about the scary prospect of a major board failure in my BDP-2 and he said they do have people who can do board level repairs, so when they finally run out of replacements, it will not necessarily be the end of the unit. I also know a reputable company in Toronto who does this kind of repair so it's not out of the question to use these devices for a long time. They use an industrial grade board that should be built to last anyway.
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INTERNAL:
Samsung EVO (860 or 870) or Crucial MX500 if you need 500GB/1TB/2TB. I have Samsung EVO's in my NUC and iMac. Love them. Very reliable and have done many TBs of writes and rewrites.
The Samsung QVO are a level below the above two, but definitely would consider them for music storage if you need higher capacity like 4TB or even 2TB.
External USB SSDs:
Samsung T5. Their 2TB had a strong sale this past Black Friday. This is the one to get as its plenty fast for this usage, cheap, and consumes little power and stays cool. Very reliable.
(Having said that, NAS for SQ.) :no_speak:
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Hello!
This one is for Chris and anyone who feels like they can answer my questions.
They are mostly about using the BDP-2 with an SSD:
1. What is the fastest solution:
- an internal SATA drive,
- an external SATA drive connected to the eSATA connector in the rear,
- an external USB drive?
2. Which generation of SATA is available in the BDP-2 and is the machine capable of utilizing this protocol to the fullest or is it limited by it's system bus?
3. Are there any specific SSD makes and models that work better than others with the BDP-2 and which one and what size would you recommend?
4. Considering an upgrade from a BDP-2 to BDP-3 costs 1.500 USD, is it possible to buy a replacement BDP-2 motherboard in case I need a new one in the future and how much does it cost?
Thanks a lot!
Antun
Hi Antun,
Sorry for not being as active as I use to be on this forum, been pretty busy these days.
1. There really shouldn't be any measurable difference between any three of those methods of communication. If there is then its likely just bad luck with a selected drive, cable, or mainboard in your BDP OR as Jozsef pointed out the human factor.
2. SATAIII (i believe still the latest version) has been around since 2008 which predates even the BDP-1's release. There have been updates to the protocol, but nothing that should effect read performance.
3. Not particularly, customers have had good luck with the samsung 800 series, but anything should work. If its a BDP-2 I typically suggest keeping the drive capacity at or under 2TB.
4. You'd have to email us for a quote, but i think we can accommodate that request
Hope this helps,
Chris
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(Of course, if we did listening "tests" I can pretty much guarantee that you and I would both hear a difference, but it's an artifact of human brain function,\
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Yes I did that, no change.
Think I'll have to call bryston next week
Thanks
Did you end up calling and/or solving your issue? :scratch: I’m able to play to the BDP-2 via roon app yet recently became unable to get the native control app to load in a browser (chrome, mozilla, edge, safari, opera). Ideas welcome.
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I spoke with Chris Rice about storage quite a ways back and as I recall, he said there is nothing slow enough to have any impact whatsoever, presumably meaning an old 5400 RPM mobile drive. He also wasn't recommending mounting it internally just because in the event of failure, replacing it would be a lot more bother that way, meaning that there is no performance gain to be had. (Of course, if we did listening "tests" I can pretty much guarantee that you and I would both hear a difference, but it's an artifact of human brain function, which is why we are well advised to trust the Bryston folks about these things.) SATA drives conform to a set of standards so no matching with systems is required for compatibility reasons.
On another occasion, I also spoke with Chris Russell about the scary prospect of a major board failure in my BDP-2 and he said they do have people who can do board level repairs, so when they finally run out of replacements, it will not necessarily be the end of the unit. I also know a reputable company in Toronto who does this kind of repair so it's not out of the question to use these devices for a long time. They use an industrial grade board that should be built to last anyway.
Thank you Jozsef! An excellent information! I completely agree with your point on the 'audible' differences. In fact, you'll rarely find a bigger skeptic than me when it comes to those things! ;)
Cheers - Antun
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INTERNAL:
Samsung EVO (860 or 870) or Crucial MX500 if you need 500GB/1TB/2TB. I have Samsung EVO's in my NUC and iMac. Love them. Very reliable and have done many TBs of writes and rewrites.
The Samsung QVO are a level below the above two, but definitely would consider them for music storage if you need higher capacity like 4TB or even 2TB.
External USB SSDs:
Samsung T5. Their 2TB had a strong sale this past Black Friday. This is the one to get as its plenty fast for this usage, cheap, and consumes little power and stays cool. Very reliable.
(Having said that, NAS for SQ.) :no_speak:
Thank you for the recommendation, zoom25! Much appreciated! As you suggested, I will have a look at the Samsung offerings and report back. I think I might have seen some Samsung ones in computer stores.
Speaking of which, the number of these stores has seen a dramatic decline and it seems like there are no dedicated stores and that the stores now sell all kinds of things that have nothing to do with computers so the personnel there have very little knowledge about the things they're selling. It's a sad state of affairs I think.
Cheers - Antun
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Hi Antun,
Sorry for not being as active as I use to be on this forum, been pretty busy these days.
1. There really shouldn't be any measurable difference between any three of those methods of communication. If there is then its likely just bad luck with a selected drive, cable, or mainboard in your BDP OR as Jozsef pointed out the human factor.
2. SATAIII (i believe still the latest version) has been around since 2008 which predates even the BDP-1's release. There have been updates to the protocol, but nothing that should effect read performance.
3. Not particularly, customers have had good luck with the samsung 800 series, but anything should work. If its a BDP-2 I typically suggest keeping the drive capacity at or under 2TB.
4. You'd have to email us for a quote, but i think we can accommodate that request
Hope this helps,
Chris
Hi Chris! No need to apologise, it is perfectly understandable. Thank you for taking the time to answer my questions.
It is good to know that any SSD, be it internal or external, should work the same, more or less. I think a 1TB drive would be more than enough for my needs so basically the only question that remains is the SSD brand and model number which will inevitably depend on availability in my area as well as the price. Zoom25 and you have kindly suggested to look at the Samsung offerings so naturally that is what I will look at first.
Can you please tell me two more things:
1) I have had problems with the front panel board as some of the cursor buttons stopped working. The problem was resolved thanks to Mr. Russel's intervention who, displeased with my distributor, had a new machine sent directly to me, from Canada to Croatia. A first class gentleman, if you ask me. Anyway, Can this front panel board (I don't know whether it also includers the VFD) be ordered as a spare part as well as the motherboard?
2) Whom should I contact to get a quote for these parts and can they be purchased directly from Bryston or do I need to go through the distributor?
Many thanks for your help!
Cheers - Antun
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1) I have had problems with the front panel board as some of the cursor buttons stopped working. The problem was resolved thanks to Mr. Russel's intervention who, displeased with my distributor, had a new machine sent directly to me, from Canada to Croatia. A first class gentleman, if you ask me. Anyway, Can this front panel board (I don't know whether it also includers the VFD) be ordered as a spare part as well as the motherboard?
2) Whom should I contact to get a quote for these parts and can they be purchased directly from Bryston or do I need to go through the distributor?
Yah i don't see why not. It would be Mike that would ultimately handle the quote and getting those parts to you, but if you email me I can give him the a list of part numbers to quote
crice[at]bryston[dot]com
Chris
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Hi Chris! No need to apologise, it is perfectly understandable. Thank you for taking the time to answer my questions.
It is good to know that any SSD, be it internal or external, should work the same, more or less. I think a 1TB drive would be more than enough for my needs so basically the only question that remains is the SSD brand and model number which will inevitably depend on availability in my area as well as the price. Zoom25 and you have kindly suggested to look at the Samsung offerings so naturally that is what I will look at first.
Since you only need 1TB, let me make this very easy for you. Get the Samsung 870 EVO. This is the best of the bunch. The 870 EVO and Crucial MX500 (slightly lower than 870 in both specs and retail price) are really good drives and perform amazingly even for OS drives. I've used my Samsung EVO's without a hitch and written hundreds of TBs data worth. Do not touch the Samsung QVO. Forget about it. The Crucial has a slightly lower retail price than the Crucial. Both of these drives go on sale, but the Samsung EVO gets the stronger sale and is available everywhere and you can actually find this for cheaper. This is the best one to get. Put it in once and forget about it. Highly reliable.
If you decide to go with an external SDD, your best options are: Samsung T5, T7, and (my new favourite) Sandisk Extreme V2.
This is THE article to read to understand where all these drives stack up: https://www.anandtech.com/show/16120/sandisk-extreme-portable-ssd-v2-and-wd-my-passport-ssd-2020-review
The Samsung T5 (older, cheaper, 500MB/s) and T7 (newer, slightly more expensive, 1000MB/s) are both proven options. The Samsungs in comparison to the rest run cool and consume little power during standby. Samsung is really good when it comes to temperature and power consumption. The Samsung externals also saw amazing sale prices this past Black Friday and during holidays.
However, these Samsung drives are somewhat older and there are better drives out there now. The new Sandisk Extreme V2 (non-pro version) beats the Samsung and the rest of the current 1000MB/s drives on the market overall. I use one for video editing and it was definitely worth the premium. For Bryston BDP use, you're not really going to notice any difference between the three. You'll only notice a difference when transferring lots of data to the drive initially. The Sandisk has the best sustained speeds (as noted in the article) which I can confirm and highest peak. I've also used the Sandisk Extreme V2 with the BDP-1 and it works perfectly (as should the T5 and T7 which are cheaper). I think the T5 on a sale price is the best option.
The Samsung (for internal) are truly excellent. However, look into Samsung warranty and Croatia. I've seen issues with Samsung warranties and how they are applied when it comes to drives and which party (store/place of purchase or Samsung) is responsible. Although, I think this issue is only limited to Canada. Double check for Croatia.
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Yah i don't see why not. It would be Mike that would ultimately handle the quote and getting those parts to you, but if you email me I can give him the a list of part numbers to quote
crice[at]bryston[dot]com
Chris
Thank you, Chris! E-mail sent your way!
Cheers - Antun
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Since you only need 1TB, let me make this very easy for you. Get the Samsung 870 EVO. This is the best of the bunch. The 870 EVO and Crucial MX500 (slightly lower than 870 in both specs and retail price) are really good drives and perform amazingly even for OS drives. I've used my Samsung EVO's without a hitch and written hundreds of TBs data worth. Do not touch the Samsung QVO. Forget about it. The Crucial has a slightly lower retail price than the Crucial. Both of these drives go on sale, but the Samsung EVO gets the stronger sale and is available everywhere and you can actually find this for cheaper. This is the best one to get. Put it in once and forget about it. Highly reliable.
If you decide to go with an external SDD, your best options are: Samsung T5, T7, and (my new favourite) Sandisk Extreme V2.
This is THE article to read to understand where all these drives stack up: https://www.anandtech.com/show/16120/sandisk-extreme-portable-ssd-v2-and-wd-my-passport-ssd-2020-review
The Samsung T5 (older, cheaper, 500MB/s) and T7 (newer, slightly more expensive, 1000MB/s) are both proven options. The Samsungs in comparison to the rest run cool and consume little power during standby. Samsung is really good when it comes to temperature and power consumption. The Samsung externals also saw amazing sale prices this past Black Friday and during holidays.
However, these Samsung drives are somewhat older and there are better drives out there now. The new Sandisk Extreme V2 (non-pro version) beats the Samsung and the rest of the current 1000MB/s drives on the market overall. I use one for video editing and it was definitely worth the premium. For Bryston BDP use, you're not really going to notice any difference between the three. You'll only notice a difference when transferring lots of data to the drive initially. The Sandisk has the best sustained speeds (as noted in the article) which I can confirm and highest peak. I've also used the Sandisk Extreme V2 with the BDP-1 and it works perfectly (as should the T5 and T7 which are cheaper). I think the T5 on a sale price is the best option.
The Samsung (for internal) are truly excellent. However, look into Samsung warranty and Croatia. I've seen issues with Samsung warranties and how they are applied when it comes to drives and which party (store/place of purchase or Samsung) is responsible. Although, I think this issue is only limited to Canada. Double check for Croatia.
Hi zoom25!
Thank you so much for a most informative post! You're quite a gentleman! Also, I am quite impressed that you know I live in Croatia. I rarely hide anything but it's amazing to me that people actually read what I write.
I read the article you suggested and found some interested contenders in my area. I typically try to buy from stores that actually 'exist' because they're less likely to disappear when you have to claim warranty. You know, the kind where you come around the following month only to find a pizzeria where the store used to stand.
In any case, this is how much some of these drives cost here:
1. Samsung 870 EVO 1TB, 5 year warranty - 976 HRK (130 €)
2. Crucial MX500 1TB, 5 year warranty - 807 HRK (108 €)
3. Crucial BX500 1TB, 3 year warranty - 721 HRK (96 €)
4. Kingston A400 960GB, 3 year warranty - 759 HRK (101 €)
The Samsung is likely the best one but it is also the most expensive one. I now know that there are different 'levels' of SSDs and that 'SSD is not an SSD'. In the case of these drives, the Crucial BX500 and Kingston A400 do not have a DRAM apparently which, if I understood this right, is basically a buffer (like computer RAM, of a sort) and allows for quicker access times. In fact, some fellow (I actually quite like his videos) specifically spoke against buying a non-DRAM SSD.
I must say, this is confusing a bit because my brother who assembles my PCs for me, just informed me that my "old" CAD workstation we just renewed does in fact use two Crusial BX500 drives running in "RAID 1" array. And according to the online source, this one should be slow. Interesting.
In any case, how do you feel about these drives taking into account the price? I know, the prices are high but they have always been high in Europe and they will only get higher.
Thanks again mate!
Cheers - Antun
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Hi zoom25!
Thank you so much for a most informative post! You're quite a gentleman! Also, I am quite impressed that you know I live in Croatia. I rarely hide anything but it's amazing to me that people actually read what I write.
I read the article you suggested and found some interested contenders in my area. I typically try to buy from stores that actually 'exist' because they're less likely to disappear when you have to claim warranty. You know, the kind where you come around the following month only to find a pizzeria where the store used to stand.
In any case, this is how much some of these drives cost here:
1. Samsung 870 EVO 1TB, 5 year warranty - 976 HRK (130 €)
2. Crucial MX500 1TB, 5 year warranty - 807 HRK (108 €)
3. Crucial BX500 1TB, 3 year warranty - 721 HRK (96 €)
4. Kingston A400 960GB, 3 year warranty - 759 HRK (101 €)
The Samsung is likely the best one but it is also the most expensive one. I now know that there are different 'levels' of SSDs and that 'SSD is not an SSD'. In the case of these drives, the Crucial BX500 and Kingston A400 do not have a DRAM apparently which, if I understood this right, is basically a buffer (like computer RAM, of a sort) and allows for quicker access times. In fact, some fellow (I actually quite like his videos) specifically spoke against buying a non-DRAM SSD.
I must say, this is confusing a bit because my brother who assembles my PCs for me, just informed me that my "old" CAD workstation we just renewed does in fact use two Crusial BX500 drives running in "RAID 1" array. And according to the online source, this one should be slow. Interesting.
In any case, how do you feel about these drives taking into account the price? I know, the prices are high but they have always been high in Europe and they will only get higher.
Thanks again mate!
Cheers - Antun
Hi Antun, for your strict purpose of using it internally with only the BDP's CPU and its gigabit interface, you won't really be noticing any differences. For myself, I have to always take these things into account with photo or video editing with huge data rates, as each project can often balloon to X00GB+. I'm constantly reading and writing lots of data on my drives, so I need something that is both reliable long term with a high TBW (Terabytes Written) and fast enough in real time that it doesn't cause any lags or get sagged down after a while due to a poor buffer. For those purposes, I use NVMe drives both externally and internally. Those are rated for 2500+MB/s.
For basic audio playback, all of those drives should work fine, but I'd only feel comfortable going with the Crucial MX500 and the Samsung 870 EVO (if you can find the older 860 EVO for cheaper - get it. That's also still better than the MX500. I have 2 of those). I use and recommend these 2 drives for SATA exclusively to all my friends and family whenever doing builds. I also buy RAM from Crucial for my NUCs and Macs. Never had an issue myself or with any friend/family's builds.
You can maybe save a few bucks by going for the cheaper Kingston or BX500, but I'd personally still go for the MX500 or EVO for the peace of mind. These are the highest performing, and more importantly, the most reliable drives on the market.
You should obviously read up and ask around to feel confident about your decision, but I'm just letting you know that if I needed another SATA SSD, I wouldn't even be considering the A400 or BX500. It'd only be between the MX500 and Samsung EVO. The MX500 and Evo do offer a higher 5 year warranty in comparison to the 3 years of the other two, however there's less chances of you even needing to use the warranty in the first place with the Samsung and MX500 because of their class leading reliability. I have read mixed things about the A400
Between the MX500 and Samsung EVO, as I previously told you and you found out for yourself, the EVO has a higher retail price than the MX500 but also does perform a bit better than the MX500. However, both of these drives are on my "peace of mind" list and I would have no issues going for the MX500 if I needed a drive right away and the Samsung wasn't on sale and the price difference was too much. Not sure about Croatia, but here in US and Canada, whenever the Samsungs do go on sale (especially big ones like Black Friday), they actually get very steep discounts. They can actually be had for as cheap or cheaper than other lower class drives.
With the prices you listed, I wouldn't even be considering the BX500 or A400. The MX500 is easily worth the 7-12 € difference. I 100% recommend that drive if you can't find the Samsung on sale and you need a SSD soon. :thumb:
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Now that we enjoyed our free trial with tidal, they have conveniently rolled me in for hi fi plus. So now my question is anyone have information on how to play the higher resolution stuff through the BDP-1 so far so good…
Just hoping to hear the HI RES !
Using simple manic moose on I pad.
Cheers
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Hi James and Chris:
I don't have a question, I just wanted to say Thank You for all the hours of enjoyment I've experienced with my BDP-1 and BDA-2.
I've had a BDP-1 since October 2012 and it has performed flawlessly. All I wanted was a digital transport that would function exactly like a CD transport, but would open up the possibility of using high res files. I know that's exactly what you designed the BDP-1 to be, so it became my first Bryston purchase.
I finally replaced the BDP-1 with a BDP-2 this week in order to listen to .dsd files. I have some .dsd and .dsf downloads but I have also acquired a few dozen SACDs. I plan to figure out how to rip the SACDs to digital files (strictly for my own use, of course).
That means I also need to upgrade my BDA-2 to a BDA-3. For now, I'm using a NuPrime DAC-9 as a stopgap so I'm already enjoying .dsf from the BDP-2. But I also have a Sony SACD player with an HDMI output that will mate with the BDA-3 once I get it.
I have a Bryston 4B3 power amp too, and I doubt I will ever feel a need to upgrade it.
I wanted to pass along my gratitude and let you both know how excited I am about continuing to advance in my audiophile journey, using Bryston's truly excellent gear. I know the BDP-1 is an outdated product even though it still delivers wonderfully on its original promise. Now that I have finally replaced mine, this seemed like a suitable time to pass along my thanks. :beer:
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Hi James and Chris:
I don't have a question, I just wanted to say Thank You for all the hours of enjoyment I've experienced with my BDP-1 and BDA-2.
I've had a BDP-1 since October 2012 and it has performed flawlessly. All I wanted was a digital transport that would function exactly like a CD transport, but would open up the possibility of using high res files. I know that's exactly what you designed the BDP-1 to be, so it became my first Bryston purchase.
I finally replaced the BDP-1 with a BDP-2 this week in order to listen to .dsd files. I have some .dsd and .dsf downloads but I have also acquired a few dozen SACDs. I plan to figure out how to rip the SACDs to digital files (strictly for my own use, of course).
That means I also need to upgrade my BDA-2 to a BDA-3. For now, I'm using a NuPrime DAC-9 as a stopgap so I'm already enjoying .dsf from the BDP-2. But I also have a Sony SACD player with an HDMI output that will mate with the BDA-3 once I get it.
I have a Bryston 4B3 power amp too, and I doubt I will ever feel a need to upgrade it.
I wanted to pass along my gratitude and let you both know how excited I am about continuing to advance in my audiophile journey, using Bryston's truly excellent gear. I know the BDP-1 is an outdated product even though it still delivers wonderfully on its original promise. Now that I have finally replaced mine, this seemed like a suitable time to pass along my thanks. :beer:
Well thank you sir - its great to know that people are getting enjoyment from our products. :thumb:
james
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I moved myself introduce here for more frequently member visit.
Hello James and audiocircle member
My name is Hien and from Vietnam. Fell in love with Bryston gears for years since I've owned 4B-SST, BP-26, BDP-1USB then here have you a question.
Will BDP-1/2/3 be firmware updated to compatible with an AVB networking?
Thanks for reading.
Hien
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I moved myself introduce here for more frequently member visit.
Hello James and audiocircle member
My name is Hien and from Vietnam. Fell in love with Bryston gears for years since I've owned 4B-SST, BP-26, BDP-1USB then here have you a question.
Will BDP-1/2/3 be firmware updated to compatible with an AVB networking?
Thanks for reading.
Hien
Hi Hein - no plans for AVB
james
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Hello,
I can't get my BDP-2 to get any further than "Initializing...." It just says its Stopped.
I've tried 10 times, shutting down then starting up, the same thing happens repeatedly.
Thanks, Brad
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Hello,
I can't get my BDP-2 to get any further than "Initializing...." It just says its Stopped.
I've tried 10 times, shutting down then starting up, the same thing happens repeatedly.
Thanks, Brad
Hi Brad,
Please check out this article,
http://support.bryston.com/downloads/BDP/Error%2009.pdf
Chris
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Hi Chris,
Thank you but I don’t see an error message. Just “Stopped”. This has just started to occur out of the blue after 2+ years of flawless operation in my BDP-2.
Regards, Brad
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Hello all, and a warm greeting to James and Chris.
I am a longtime user of the BDP-1, and aside from a few small issues over the years -- that Chris always readily helped me deal with -- the player has brought me countless hours of musical joy.
As my digital music collection has expanded, it has become a chore to deal with swapping in different hard drives directly to the BDP-1. So I just bought and set up a Synology DS920+ NAS and installed Plex. I'm not finding it easy to locate instructions on how to connect the BDP-1 to the NAS, though I am sure it has been discussed and is probably easy. If someone can point me to a tutorial or previous post, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks.
Thom
Baltimore MD USA
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S2.45 2022-05-26 Windows 10
Chris:
I replaced an external drive with a larger one. It shows in Manic Moose, but not in Network/BRYSTON-BDP-2. The Screenshots explain it better.
Thanks for any help. Rich
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chris:
Resolved the above issue with a power down & unplug ( not sure the unplug was necessary ). The Drive500 folder now shows.
Probably should have done this first after the drive was plugged in.
Thanks again. Rich :duh:
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Hi folks! I often get a “FILE 7” message when I reboot my BDP-2. Can anyone tell me what it means?
I don’t recall ever seeing the message until I installed a new internal SSD drive: Intel D3-S4510 960 GB SATA. Now i regularly get that message, or sometimes “FILE 4”, any time I have to shutdown my gear and reboot.
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chris:
Resolved the above issue with a power down & unplug ( not sure the unplug was necessary ). The Drive500 folder now shows.
Probably should have done this first after the drive was plugged in.
Thanks again. Rich :duh:
Thats one way to rebuild the shares file, alternatively you can stop and then start the samba service found in the services settings page.
Chris
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Hello all, and a warm greeting to James and Chris.
I am a longtime user of the BDP-1, and aside from a few small issues over the years -- that Chris always readily helped me deal with -- the player has brought me countless hours of musical joy.
As my digital music collection has expanded, it has become a chore to deal with swapping in different hard drives directly to the BDP-1. So I just bought and set up a Synology DS920+ NAS and installed Plex. I'm not finding it easy to locate instructions on how to connect the BDP-1 to the NAS, though I am sure it has been discussed and is probably easy. If someone can point me to a tutorial or previous post, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks.
Thom
Baltimore MD USA
Hi Thom,
You'll likely need to enable SMB v1 support on your synology NAS before it will work, but once you've done that you should be able to use the NAS setup settings page to configure your BDP to talk to your NAS. Linked below is the Manic Moose manual which briefly discusses how to configure the BDP to use a network share.
http://support.bryston.com/downloads/BDP/Manic%20Moose%20Manual.pdf
Chris
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You'll likely need to enable SMB v1 support
Is there no plan to implement SMB2 in MM? I ask because can no longer access my BDP-1 over IP from my Windows 10 machine, which is where I download all of my digital music. In spite of my prior ignorance of the issue, I will not reenable SMB1 on my Windows machine due to security concerns:
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/storage/file-server/troubleshoot/smbv1-not-installed-by-default-in-windows
https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/storage-at-microsoft/stop-using-smb1/ba-p/425858
Bandcamp is my primary source of music, and having to physically move an external drive between one device and another to listen to new music is antediluvian. I love my BDP-1, but its utility has greatly diminished as a result of this limitation.
Any updates or alternative suggestions are welcome.
Cheers,
Joe
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Aloha James and Chris!
I bought the early version of BDP-1 and BDA-1, maybe around 2010, and got a Bryston thumb drive as a gift for the early buyers. I'm not using the BDP-1 since 2012 and after a decade I fired it up yesterday but it was showing an error code. But it was gone when I replaced the MB battery. Now it is up and running and sounding nice after a decade!!
However, I failed to upgrade the firmware, now it's S2.06 2014-10-07 - Manic Moose. MPD: 0.18.6 Kernel:3.12-0.bpo.1-486.
After clicking "Update" it shows"Starting Firmware Upgrade" but no activity after that.
Please let me know how to update the firmware.
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HI - email Adam - atanner@brsyton.com
james
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Hi,
I just acquired another BDP-1. I actually enjoy them and the overall sound quality better most of the midline stuff out there. I have a couple fo quick questions and have been searching for answers, but no luck or I did not search hard enough
1. The CF card, does installing a larger CF card have any advantages? Speed, storage,....
2. Scratch Disk, again does size matter and once installed is there anything else that has to be done?
3. How do i remove old drives from the memory. When i go to media player still thinking there are old unplugged drives there?
Thank you again in advance
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Hi, I have a BDP-1 that continually freezes with the lateness firmware dated Oct 03,2022. I have not experienced any problems with previous firmware update. Would rollback my unit with an older version firmware helps? Has anyone encounter the same issue as me?
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Hi Chris - email Adam - atanner@bryston.com
james
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no feedback
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Chris - can you send me your email please - jamestanner@bryston.com
james
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Thanks Adam & Chris help to solve the hang up problem by service mode. My BDP-1 is running in Roon Ready mode healthily now. Thanks a lot.
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Hi James,
I put in an email to support, but pinging here too. Odd problem with by BDP-2. In seems to operate correctly in all respects but will not play a song. It will cue songs up correctly, and all other buttons seem to act correctly, but it literally will not start to play the song (clock remains at zero seconds, as opposed to playing but have a subsequent signal issue). Same problem whether operating MPD or using front panel. I have made sure firmware is updated and restarted.
Thanks
Matt
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I had this happen just a couple of weeks ago. Unplugging it for 30 seconds was not effective but ten or fifteen minutes did the trick and it's been working correctly ever since. They do like to have power free from glitches but I don't now recall precisely what sorts of anomalies effect them.
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Thank you for that tip! I did try unplugging for a while, but not very long. I have been making system changes lately that maybe caused a glitch.
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Hi, posting here a problem and solution I found related to NAS not being discovered
I own BDP1 and music is stored on QNAP NAS TS451A. Recently I upgraded the firmware of the NAS (many versions) to 5.01 and following this BDP1 was not able to access the music shared folder, sometime showing this error:
failed to connect:mount error(95): Operation not supported Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g. man mount.cifs)
sudo mount -t cifs -o username='xxxxxxx',password='xxxxxxxx',uid=106 "\\\\1xx.1xx.xx.xx\\Music" "/media/Music_on_MediaCenter.local" 2>&1
Looking how to solve it I found reference that it may with a older version of SMB protocol and indeed, my NAS had a setting to allow discovery only via SMB3 and SMB2.
When I changed it to SMB1 NAS setup worked and I can enjoy music again.
I wanted to share this with technical staff from Bryston, maybe they will consider upgrading the SMB protocol, and with any of you who had / will have similar problem
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Hello members! What is the purpose of the 5vdc bus from psu board to the main board on BDP-1/2/3?
I lifted this bus then it seems I have better audio quality when streaming Qobuz/Tidal on my BDP-1.
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Help!!
My BDP-1 sat in its box for several years. I just fired it up. It updated to 2.45 right away and I thought off to the races.
Not so fast
My BDP-1 sees my hard disk but doesn't see any content.
Can anyone help?
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My BDP-1 sees my hard disk but doesn't see any content.
Go to your MM dashboard. What services are enabled?
http://bryston-bdp-1/bryston/settings/services.php
I think you will need to enable UPNP CLIENT for it to work this way.
Also see the post above yours regarding NAS discovery and SMB/CIFS version 1.
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Hello members! What is the purpose of the 5vdc bus from psu board to the main board on BDP-1/2/3?
I lifted this bus then it seems I have better audio quality when streaming Qobuz/Tidal on my BDP-1.
You might not notice but your motherboard is probably failing POST now. Just a guess but it probably supplies 5V to the USB ports, so those may not be working, among other features.
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Help!!
My BDP-1 sat in its box for several years. I just fired it up. It updated to 2.45 right away and I thought off to the races.
Not so fast
My BDP-1 sees my hard disk but doesn't see any content.
Can anyone help?
The USB ports can only put out 500mA of current. A spinning HDD will require more than that. If you insist on connecting the drive that way, you will need to power it externally.
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Update. BDP-1 still not working.
To recap what I've tried.
Long story.
My, early, BDP-1 sat in its box for a few years. Recently got it out and connected. It updated to S2.45 seamlessly.
I’m on MPD 17.6.
BDA-1 showed 48K and Lock.
Then problems started.
Initially connected a WD 1TB hard drive in the rear port. The BDP-1 saw the drive, but nothing on it.
Put an album on a SanDisk 512GB flash drive and connected to the front.
Saw the drive and the songs, wouldn’t play them; play button wouldn’t work.
Put a song on a SanDisk 512MB flash drive. BDP-1 couldn’t see it.
Gave up for a day.
Went back and then I got the Error 09.
Opened it up, checked connections and they seemed fine. Gave them a push anyway.
Replaced the battery.
Hooked it up again and no Error 09!
Not so fast.
BDP-1 sees the drive, the album and the songs. Still won’t play.
The play button on the BDP-1 doesn’t do anything. The virtual front panel on my iPhone is the same.
Any thoughts?
Here is the menu progression:
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Please e-mail Adam on this - atanner@bryston.com
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Adam got it working again!
Need to reflash the CF card.
Thanks Adam and James
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Help, I have a problem with the BDP1 USB, as a rule when I turn on the BDP1 I get error 05. I turn it off and turn it back on and error 09 appears. I have to turn it off and on several times until the errors disappear but since yesterday error 09 always appears. and every time I turn it on I keep getting error 09.
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A question regarding these media players and the state of the A/V market at the moment.
It seems that a lot of stereo preamps and home theater products (receivers and SSP's) released these days now have network connectivity and from what I can tell a lot appear to be able to access home networks just like the BDP players can for locating and playing back music files. I'm not sure how many have built-in in-house created media browsing interfaces allowing the viewing of album cover art, filtering, searching, etc. like Bryston created with Manic Moose however if they don't I see many have support for Apple Airplay, Chromecast, Spotify, Bluetooth, Roon, etc. I'll admit as I don't use any of those services I'm not sure which if any or all support local files or everything has to be streamed and you can't own actual files sitting on a PC or NAS for example and expect it to be played back by these services. If at least some of these services support local file playback are we not then in the middle of the demise of the dedicated music player such as the BDP's? If the preamps, receivers and SSP's can access our local media then there would be no need for the BDP's, am I correct? As to continue to use them if your preamp, receiver or SSP has this ability that then is adding an extra step for no reason in the signal path i.e. having the BDP grab the local file and then the BDP is connected to the preamp, receiver or SSP for final playback. In that scenario I can't see how the BDP could be adding quality over simply having the preamp, receiver or SSP grab and playback the file from the network. Am I missing something here regarding the continued relevance of a dedicated music player in this type of environment??
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I think you are correct Rod - less and less need for dedicated players.
I use my Ipad a lot as a player and my BR-20 with the Pi4 as the streamer.
I download a lot of files from Qobuz and use a NAS for music I feel is important for me long-term.
best
james
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Can you pls share with us which playback software you use on your iPad to play the music? Also, what is the sequence the files pass through - is it streamer to iPad to BR-20?
Thanks
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Can you pls share with us which playback software you use on your iPad to play the music? Also, what is the sequence the files pass through - is it streamer to iPad to BR-20?
Thanks
Hi Twiga - I use the iPad with a C to USB connected wire to the USB input on my BR-20 DAC. You can also Stream to the BR-20 from the iPad as well.
james
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Hi
I corrected my BDP-1 09 error by changing the cr2032 internal battery
Help, I have a problem with the BDP1 USB, as a rule when I turn on the BDP1 I get error 05. I turn it off and turn it back on and error 09 appears. I have to turn it off and on several times until the errors disappear but since yesterday error 09 always appears. and every time I turn it on I keep getting error 09.
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Thank you very much for your response.
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i understand the BDP1 is old tech and support is diminishing, still like to use it for convince, but it has started to give me issues. Wanted to follow up with the group seee if anyone has faced these and if there are work arounds.
The unit no longer wanted to connect my NAS (QNAP) It does see it and find it, but cannot find any of the shares. (No pull down for it). Using SMB, even tried setting nas to SMB1, as per another post. No luck
Tidal, really does not want to play any songs. Tries, then skips over them to go to the next song. Keeps doing this until it hits the end of the playlist.
Any advice would be appreciated.
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I am unable to access my Bryston BDP-2 via my web browser. Before I shut the BDP down, it was accessible. When I booted it up again, no can do.
The MAC address is correct, verified by checking it against the number on the BDP display.
Via Finder, I can view the SSD drive installed in my BDP. So I _know_ the BDP is connected to the internet, it's just that the site won't open in my browser.
I need to restart MPD in order to turn the USB device on--but of course, I can't access the dashboard. So this problem has rendered the BDP effectively useless.
The issue may be that my browser identifies the site as "not secure." But I am unable to do anything about it.
This has been a recurrent issue for me: sometimes the site will become accessible hours or days later. I can't continue to tolerate this problem. I love my BDP-2 / BDA-3 combo but maybe it's time to sell the BDP.
If anyone has a better option for me to consider, please help me out. I am very discouraged.
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The issue may be that my browser identifies the site as "not secure." But I am unable to do anything about it.
Hey, we're going to get this sorted out. I also have a BDP-2 and nothing is going to stand in the way of me using it. I just verified that I can use the device on my Mac. Which MacOS version are you using and which web browser? In my experience, the simple logins that Bryston has provided don't always work for me so I generally just get the local IP from the BDP front panel and then type it into the address bar in the web browser. I have never had occasion to think about the MAC address. Don't even think of giving up unless you can move to a BDP-3. This would be faster when scanning for new tracks and so forth but would not sound different.
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Hey, we're going to get this sorted out. I also have a BDP-2 and nothing is going to stand in the way of me using it. I just verified that I can use the device on my Mac. Which MacOS version are you using and which web browser? In my experience, the simple logins that Bryston has provided don't always work for me so I generally just get the local IP from the BDP front panel and then type it into the address bar in the web browser. I have never had occasion to think about the MAC address. Don't even think of giving up unless you can move to a BDP-3. This would be faster when scanning for new tracks and so forth but would not sound different.
Hey, Jozsef, thanks for the encouragement. I’m expecting a call from Bryston to see if we can get it sorted out.
It’s strictly a browser issue. I downloaded the Rigelian app and it can ‘see’ the BDP-2. I can also move files to the BDP-2 via Finder. So I’m definitely connected to the internet.
But I still get a blank page on the browser—any browser. I usually use Safari but I’ve also tried Chrome, Firefox, and even Explorer (yuck).
Now that I can build a playlist and access basic features through Rigelian, I’m using my BDP-2 again. But I can’t use the USB input because I need to access the dashboard, then go to audio devices, and tick the appropriate box. Rigelian doesn’t access that part of the BDP-2 system.
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Hi - please email Chris on this - crice@bryston.com
james
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Hi there
I've got, what seems to me, a strange problem with my BPD-2. It wasn't responding to the web interface so I went to reboot it and saw the message 'Please insert a USB drive with at least 400mb available'. Wasn't expecting that. I tried rebooting it and after the boot up sequence got the same message. Prior to that a screen very briefly flashed up saying 'Repartitioning internal flash' .
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I've tried rebooting with a suitable freshly formatted usb thumb drive plugged in, and also rebooting and plugging in the same usb thumb drive. Nothing seems to get me off the 'Please insert a USB drive with at least 400mb available' screen.
Has anybody got any ideas what's going on here? this seems to have sprung out of nowhere with no 'provocation'.
Thanks in advance for any help or ideas
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Recently developed a 09 error when booting my bdp-2 which disappeared if I disconnected my ssd. I have removed the drive and copied all my music files to an external hard drive. (Yes I should have backed up before now!!) The ssd is now connected externally by USB. All music appears to be present and no 09 error. The suggestion from tech support (thanks) is that the ssd has corrupted Linux system files and should be re-formatted before being placed back into the bdp-2 with the music being copied back from my backups.
I am hesitant to do this because if the backups have not worked I am totally screwed. I was wondering if there was any way in which the corrupted Linux files could be recovered/replaced whilst leaving my music intact? I must add that my knowledge of matters Linux is totally zero.
It did also occur to me that this may be warning that the drive may be on its way out and I should invest in a new one
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Good news, Bryston support was able to resolve the issue I described earlier. I’ve been using the BDP-2 for a couple of weeks since then without a hiccup.
Bryston had me use the front panel of the BDP-2 to reset something in the settings. (I’m reluctant to go into details—I don’t want to be responsible for anyone messing with the settings based on my second-hand info.)
Once that was done, the BDP-2 rebooted. It was then immediately recognized by my browsers again, both on my MacBook Pro and on my iPad.
Kudos to Bryston! :thumb: It would have put a serious damper on my Christmas vacation if I couldn’t listen to music.
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This seemed the best circle even though the device at issue is a BDP3 I just acquired. I am familiar with use of the BDP1 and BDP2. This BDP3 is connected to my LAN and is behaving correctly as a LAN-connected device in every way ...except "BDP has no internet connection." So it will not update firmware, or log in to Tidal, etc. It will play data from my NAS, and all the configuration options appear to be normal, just no "internet connection." Luckily, I have a BDP2 and it is working fine. Both BDPs are on the same router, look the same in the router interface utility, and look the same in the BDP settings. But will not communicate outside the LAN.
Thanks for any help.
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Matt - email Chris on this - crice@bryston.com
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A new problem for me.
With my BDP-2, I cannot log in to Tidal. The Media Player screen SAYS I am logged in, but I get no lists or service, and the Settings show "Not logged in." I cannot force the BDP to present the Tidal login screen. It will present "Log in to Tidal," and when I click that, it will not go the login screen; it will be tell me I am logged in, as if holding a cookie that thinks I am logged in. I am using a Chromebook. I have powered down the CHromebook, reset the BDP2 to factory, left the BDP2 unplugged for 10 or 20 seconds, and no matter what, when I attempt to log in to Tidal, it tells me I already am (and none of my Tidal functionality is working of course).
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Recently developed a 09 error when booting my bdp-2 which disappeared if I disconnected my ssd. I have removed the drive and copied all my music files to an external hard drive. (Yes I should have backed up before now!!) The ssd is now connected externally by USB. All music appears to be present and no 09 error. The suggestion from tech support (thanks) is that the ssd has corrupted Linux system files and should be re-formatted before being placed back into the bdp-2 with the music being copied back from my backups.
I am hesitant to do this because if the backups have not worked I am totally screwed. I was wondering if there was any way in which the corrupted Linux files could be recovered/replaced whilst leaving my music intact? I must add that my knowledge of matters Linux is totally zero.
It did also occur to me that this may be warning that the drive may be on its way out and I should invest in a new one
My last encounter with Error 09 was solved by replacing the CR2032 coin cell on the motherboard. The Linux system files are on a CF card and not on your storage drive so we may be dealing with a misunderstanding somewhere. It still wouldn't hurt to copy your music files in case some sort of file system corruption occurred on the SSD somehow. I'm not a programmer so unfortunately, I can't speculate on the cause or nature of your issue. If you're still having trouble, email Adam, atanner@bryston.com and see what he says. He's a smart fellow. :)
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i understand the BDP1 is old tech and support is diminishing, still like to use it for convince, but it has started to give me issues. Wanted to follow up with the group seee if anyone has faced these and if there are work arounds.
The unit no longer wanted to connect my NAS (QNAP) It does see it and find it, but cannot find any of the shares. (No pull down for it). Using SMB, even tried setting nas to SMB1, as per another post. No luck
Tidal, really does not want to play any songs. Tries, then skips over them to go to the next song. Keeps doing this until it hits the end of the playlist.
Any advice would be appreciated.
While I have not had those issues, I can tell you that the BDP-1 has not lost any features as a result of firmware updates. It should work at least as well as new with the latest Manic Moose version. I've only ever used an external drive and USB flash drives rather than a NAS or anything more elaborate so I can't comment on those. My guess is that you do not have a hardware failure but it's only a guess. I would email Adam at atanner@bryston.com and see what he says.
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Just upgraded my Allo Digione Signature to a BDP-2 (2017 build). I used my Allo exclusively for Qobuz streaming with BubbleUPNP.
I would like to do the same with the BDP-2, but am unable to figure out how to configure the BDP to boot into DLNA Renderer mode.
Can I use a startup script to automatically enable it?
Additionally, are there features I could disable to speed up the boot process?
My Allo was powered on 24/7. I am using the trigger from my SP-3 to toggle it off/on.
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A new problem for me.
With my BDP-2, I cannot log in to Tidal. The Media Player screen SAYS I am logged in, but I get no lists or service, and the Settings show "Not logged in." I cannot force the BDP to present the Tidal login screen. It will present "Log in to Tidal," and when I click that, it will not go the login screen; it will be tell me I am logged in, as if holding a cookie that thinks I am logged in. I am using a Chromebook. I have powered down the CHromebook, reset the BDP2 to factory, left the BDP2 unplugged for 10 or 20 seconds, and no matter what, when I attempt to log in to Tidal, it tells me I already am (and none of my Tidal functionality is working of course).
This suggestion may be something you have already thought of — but I would log out of Tidal, since it says you’re logged in. Then you should have the option of logging back in, and MAYBE that will resolve the issue you’re stuck with.
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New BDP-3 owner here. I installed an SSD on the internal SATA port and can play the files on it. I really like the user interface and the ability to store the files internally.
Does anyone know how to transfer files from a USB drive plugged into the BDP-3 to the internal SSD? The USB drive is recognized and can play files. But here doesn't seem to be option in the UI to copy files. I prefer keeping all my music on the internal SSD. If there's a way to get to the Linux command line, I know how to copy files.
Thanks for any advise!
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on Win10 with Putty I can ssh into my BDP-2 by entering the IP address
displayed on the web UI (mybryston.com) on port 22. username is bryston, same
for password. df command to list mounted drives. I also have installed an internal
SSD and can read off all my folders and flac files. I have not tried copying over from
another USB drive.
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Thanks inglisd! I was able to SSH into my BDP-3 and poke around.
The directory where the music on my internally-mounted SSD is /media/Music. Fortunately, this directory is readable and writable by all, so we are good to move/add/copy files in and out.
If you insert a flash drive on one of the external ports it will show up as "/media/Samsung-USB" or something similar based on the flash drive manufacturer. I ran a USB3 extension cable from one of the rear USB3 ports to get easy access to USB3. The two ports on the front of the BDP-3 are only USB2 and too slow to transfer files.
If a user has some experience with the linux command line, moving files on/off the flash drive to the internal SSD is easy.
I backed up all the files on the internal SSD to another drive via rsync in case the internal drive goes bad or the BDP-3 stops working. I'll post more on that later.
Remember to unmount the flash drive via the MM system interface. We can't mount/unmount anything without root account access, and we don't know that (yet).
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Hi all,
Will replace my Bdp-1 with a Bdp-3, is there a way to copy my playlist from the 1 to the Bdp-3. Thanks
Gilles
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I have the BDP-1 and BDA-1 combo and was wondering if the BDP-1 can be used as a USB/SPDIF converter? Maybe I am crazy but seems I read an article one time where someone was using it that way. I ask because I want to to play Tidal via my PC rather than using the manic moose interface through the BDP-1. I currently have my PC directly connected to the BDA's USB input, but of course this way it's limited to 44.1 and 48kHz data. Is there a way to send the signal from the PC's USB to the BDP-1 and then to the BDA (by coax or AES) to utilize the resolution support up to 192k on the BDA-1? Or will I just need to look into an a separate DAC/SPDIF converter? Thanks!
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I have the BDP-1 and BDA-1 combo and was wondering if the BDP-1 can be used as a USB/SPDIF converter? Maybe I am crazy but seems I read an article one time where someone was using it that way. I ask because I want to to play Tidal via my PC rather than using the manic moose interface through the BDP-1. I currently have my PC directly connected to the BDA's USB input, but of course this way it's limited to 44.1 and 48kHz data. Is there a way to send the signal from the PC's USB to the BDP-1 and then to the BDA (by coax or AES) to utilize the resolution support up to 192k on the BDA-1? Or will I just need to look into an a separate DAC/SPDIF converter? Thanks!
Hi!
I do not think that is possible. With custom software for the BDP-1, perhaps, but it is questionable how reliable it would be or if it would even work.
The most elegant way to go around ait is to use a USB-S/PDIF convertor like you suggested.
Though not asynchronous, the USB interface on the BDA-1 is rather good so don't expect major improvements, especially with streaming services.
Cheers - Antun
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Hi and thanks to James and Chris.
Thanks for setting up this Thread.
A good place for legacy product users to share information. The bryston gear just keeps on going and going doing what it should and given that ... this forum is a good place for users to share experiences.
Rob
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I have a BDP-3 and I'm trying to compare USB and SPDIF output to my Benchmark DAC3. I have both devices enabled as shown below, but I can only get sound from the SPDIF connection if I unplug the USB cable and enable SPDIF only. I've tried powering down both units, unplugging the BDP-3, but no luck. Is it possible to get output from both the USB and SPDIF at the same time?
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=269448)
Or, does anyone have strong opinions for USB vs SPDIF? Thanks for any help!
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Works on mine with the same settings, as long as you’re playing a rate compatible with spdif. I tested with a regular 44k file.
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I'm trying to play a compatible file. SPDIF plays fine with the USB detached up to 192kHz on the Benchmark DAC. Could it matter which BDP-3 USB port I use?
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Hi Folks - a place to ask and answer more technical and operational based questions on the BDP-1 Digital Player
james
Back to the dongle question.
I have a BDP-1, replaced by a BR20, that I would like to move to another system. That is inaccessible for wired Ethernet.
There are now many WIFI to Ethernet adapters.
Will they work with a BDP-1?
Thanks
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any wifi extender with an ethernet port that you then wire to the BDP should work
as long as your main router and the extender can establish a good wireless connection.
Buy one on amazon and if it doesn't work return it.
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Heed help. I have 2 BDP-1 units. One works fine with either of my 2 hard drives. The other used to work the same but now it only partially loads and then won’t continue. When I go into the connected drives section and hit update it says: cannot create file directory. USB thumb drives seem to work.
Thank you
Marc
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Heed help. I have 2 BDP-1 units. One works fine with either of my 2 hard drives. The other used to work the same but now it only partially loads and then won’t continue. When I go into the connected drives section and hit update it says: cannot create file directory. USB thumb drives seem to work.
Thank you
Marc
I would email Adam Tanner, atanner@bryston.com
I'm sure he will take care of you.