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Title: WTB DAC
Post by: deuter on 9 Mar 2020, 06:29 am
Prefer a balanced dac.
Would be interested in something that’s musical and not analytical.
Could be with tube output stage or an R-2R
Title: Re: WTB DAC
Post by: mresseguie on 9 Mar 2020, 08:18 am
It might be helpful if you tell folks your budget ($100? $500? $5000? $10k?).



Title: Re: WTB DAC
Post by: Wind Chaser on 9 Mar 2020, 03:33 pm
Also it would be helpful to know what country or continent you are on, shipping overseas gets expensive.
Title: Re: WTB DAC
Post by: deuter on 9 Mar 2020, 11:45 pm
It might be helpful if you tell folks your budget ($100? $500? $5000? $10k?).

Budget: Less then 5K
Title: Re: WTB DAC
Post by: deuter on 9 Mar 2020, 11:46 pm
Also it would be helpful to know what country or continent you are on, shipping overseas gets expensive.

I'am based in Melbourne, Australia
Title: Re: WTB DAC
Post by: walkern on 10 Mar 2020, 02:42 pm
check out the balanced Pagoda from MHDT Labs.  Wonderful r-2-r dac with tube output.  I have an older non-balanced MHDT dac using a BB chip set that sounds very much like what you described... musical with nice detail but not ruthless or analytical.  They will ship to Australia relatively quickly (although the balanced versions of their dacs are built when ordered, so it may take a few days to get that done).
Title: Re: WTB DAC
Post by: jtsnead on 10 Mar 2020, 03:44 pm
I have a ifi audio pro idsd dac that has a switchable tube output stage, I just got it but I feel I am not going to use it that much, google it it has a lot of great reviews,    https://ifi-audio.com/products/pro-idsd/                     
Title: Re: WTB DAC
Post by: morganc on 10 Mar 2020, 04:13 pm
I'd recommend the Pagoda or either the Lampizator Amber or one their higher end models like the TRP model.  The Audio Mirror Dac also sounds like a winner. 
Title: Re: WTB DAC
Post by: deuter on 10 Mar 2020, 07:08 pm
I'd recommend the Pagoda or either the Lampizator Amber or one their higher end models like the TRP model.  The Audio Mirror Dac also sounds like a winner.

I used to own the Lampizator level 7 so familiar with the sound.
Does the Pagoda sound better ( more detailed ) compared to the amber?
Also Audio Mirror is fairly new as I was hoping to buy a used one to keep expenses down.
Title: Re: WTB DAC
Post by: Sense63 on 10 Mar 2020, 10:27 pm
If you could find a used Aqua La Scala, that should fit the bill.
Title: Re: WTB DAC
Post by: deuter on 11 Mar 2020, 06:52 am
If you could find a used Aqua La Scala, that should fit the bill.

Agree, hence the WTB thread.
Title: Re: WTB DAC
Post by: Ryan0348 on 13 Mar 2020, 05:54 pm
Ps audio direct stream dac. I have one and its the most analog sounding digital device ive herd.
Title: Re: WTB DAC
Post by: mhconley on 13 Mar 2020, 07:37 pm
Matrix Audio X-SABRE Pro

Martin
Title: Re: WTB DAC
Post by: deuter on 14 Mar 2020, 04:50 am
Iam looking to buy used, not necessarily recommendations.
So if you have one for sale then please pm me.
Title: Re: WTB DAC
Post by: deuter on 16 Mar 2020, 06:17 am
Found.
Title: Re: WTB DAC
Post by: Shakeydeal on 18 Mar 2020, 06:39 pm
If you are still looking, check out my Metrum Acoustics Pavane here for sale. It sounds exactly as you describe.

Shakey
Title: Re: WTB DAC
Post by: GlennDog on 22 Mar 2020, 03:02 am
Whaja find? Details plz  8)
Title: Re: WTB DAC
Post by: audioholic1976 on 24 Mar 2020, 04:23 am
To throw in my 2 cents.
I’ve tried a ton of DACs ranging from $50-$10,000 and my absolute number 1 is the Berkeley Alpha DAC Version 2.
Sound very natural, detailed and very 3 dimensional soundstage.

I am selling mine for US$2,000.
It’s in mint condition.
Title: Re: WTB DAC
Post by: LordCloud on 27 Mar 2020, 04:57 am
If you're still looking, I have a modified MHDT Labs Balanced Pagoda that I'm selling.
Title: Re: WTB DAC
Post by: beeah on 27 Mar 2020, 04:11 pm
If you're still looking, I have a Brooklyn Bridge you might be interested in.
Not the Mytek, the Brooklyn Bridge.

But seriously, what did you end up getting? 
Title: Re: WTB DAC
Post by: deuter on 11 May 2020, 10:59 am
I managed to get a new Musical Paradise MP-D2 MK3 DAC with tube and USB clock upgraded and Sabre 9038Pro chips.

Really enjoying the sound. So detailed and huge sounding with holographic soundstage  without sounding digital yet maintaining the bite in instruments when it calls for.
Title: Re: WTB DAC
Post by: jtsnead on 11 May 2020, 12:08 pm
Is it this one?

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000554895341.html?src=google
Title: Re: WTB DAC
Post by: deuter on 11 May 2020, 10:45 pm
Is it this one?

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000554895341.html?src=google

That’s the one but there are more configuration options on Musical Paradise website.
Title: Re: WTB DAC
Post by: JackD on 12 May 2020, 12:20 am
jt

I wouldn't buy it from there just to save a couple of dollars.  Garry's shipping is free to the US and he stands behind it when he sells it.  And like Deuter said there are other configuration options available on his website.
Title: Re: WTB DAC
Post by: beeah on 12 May 2020, 04:56 pm
Thanks for the follow up, Deuter.  Interesting choice. 

I recently moved from Bryston BDA-1 to BDA-2, the latter using the AKM 4399.  It’s a pretty big improvement IMHO over the BDA-1’s Cirrus DAC chip.   Enough so that I am expecting a Topping D90 to be delivered today, which uses the AKM 4499.

TL;DR: I woulda gone with the AK4497 option...

Title: Re: WTB DAC
Post by: mhconley on 12 May 2020, 06:09 pm
Thanks for the follow up, Deuter.  Interesting choice. 

I recently moved from Bryston BDA-1 to BDA-2, the latter using the AKM 4399.  It’s a pretty big improvement IMHO over the BDA-1’s Cirrus DAC chip.   Enough so that I am expecting a Topping D90 to be delivered today, which uses the AKM 4499.

TL;DR: I woulda gone with the AK4497 option...

I agree with the comment that the Musical Paradise is an interesting choice. I've been drawn by the ability to swap DAC modules. I wrote Musical Paradise a couple of months ago and they said AK4499 modules would be available this summer. It would be very interesting to do a comparison between the top of the line ESS Technology (ESS9038Pro) and Asahi Kasei Microdevices (AK4499) DAC chips in the same unit.

I have a Topping DX7 Pro with the ESS9038Pro chip.

Martin
Title: Re: WTB DAC
Post by: deuter on 12 May 2020, 09:26 pm
I agree with the comment that the Musical Paradise is an interesting choice. I've been drawn by the ability to swap DAC modules. I wrote Musical Paradise a couple of months ago and they said AK4499 modules would be available this summer. It would be very interesting to do a comparison between the top of the line ESS Technology (ESS9038Pro) and Asahi Kasei Microdevices (AK4499) DAC chips in the same unit.

I have a Topping DX7 Pro with the ESS9038Pro chip.

Martin

There is more to this DAC then just the DAC chips, In fact the only reason I went with Sabre was because Garry recommended it based on my system sound signature and listening habits.
The tubed output stage and rectification  along with the upgraded USB input and not to forget cap swap options really allows one to tailor the sound.
I come from having tried some of the most expensive dacs and this one I believe is definitely on par if not better.