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Tom, thanks for this thread. I just downloaded a copy of the room layout .pdf, and I'm off to another circle to start a thread regarding speaker size/room size/show speakers. . .).One quick question Tom (all?). When critiquing the rooms/speakers at the show and making a statement like, "if I had a large room, I would. . .", or "if I had a small room, I would. . . .", where roughly are we drawing the lines between large and small rooms, just to make sure folks are on the same page when discussing.By the way, as a warning to everyone, I did a yahoo search for the RMAF web site (didn't try google to see if the same applies), and something funky is going on, because it is trying to autodirect to some junk shopping web site (or some other spam/virus/malware link), I think. If you copy/paste the URLs direct into a browser, the pages load fine, though.Cheers!
I had never heard of the Kaiser Kawero speakers, so I googled the name and people has had these speakers as best of show previously at the 2009 RMAF. There are also some rave reviews from the magazines on it. The inner components are the very expensive Duelund capacitors. The speakers are $66K. If I won the lottery, that might be the ones I buy. Small in stature so they would fit in a smaller sized room. Kaiser had the black version at the show, but here is a pic of the wooden ones. They look like a million dollars even in black.I give these speakers the top craftsman award. Just another high craft product from Germany.
Second the differences between the so called best of the best is a very narrow avenue. charlesSMA
Worst SystemThe first day at the show, I heard a lot of the worst. I had to be very careful so I did not get a splitting headache. That was how bad it was. But many systems got much better.Drum roll please.Levinson-JBLWhy? This actually could have been the best but I never went back. I walked into the room on Saturday, and a young guy was streaming on the computer, TV Theme songs. What? Gilligan's Island, Green Acres. Sure, that was the best I ever heard those but c'mon. Those are low rez recordings, can't the young guy hear that? No excuse!The winner, worst system there.
Back in 2008-RMAF....Kaiser Kawero speakers with Master Sound electronics...their best showing....sound was excellent....large room...tube amps.http://www.stereophile.com/rmaf2008/101208international/index.htmlBack then....they were $50,000.00. Price has gone up a bit.... They were good this year as well....in a smaller room.
Best bang for the bucks-tieGR Research room-If I had a big room, this would be the system I would go with, but since I don't, the next would be-Earo SpeakersSingle driver, no crossover, class D amp, balanced inputs. Just hook a Remote powered Dac with balanced outputs and there you have it. These are the $38000 with 8 inch driver, $18,000 for the pair with 5 inch driver.Fastest system at the show: Aero SpeakersAgain, no crossover and self powered ampThe $18K system, if not snobby enough for your friends, just add the two $13K power cables from Nordost. That should do it.Here is their website.http://www.earo-us.com/Earo_Home.htmlThese just missed my top choice by a hair. The company had no room treatment, no power conditioner, and no extravagant power cords, only stock. They were very natural sounding on piano and female voice. They were using the Antelope Gold Dac and was getting magical music.
Tom, the DAC in the picture is a Wyred4Sound DAC2. Why do you say they were using an Antelope Gold DAC?
That's one speaker on my short list that I would like to hear, I know of individuals who have replaced their MBL 101E's with them which to me peaks my interest because I own a pair. I know of an individual who preferred them over many others that he auditioned in his home including Wilson Alexandra 2.
"Worst System" seems a bit unfair here. "Worst choice in program material" - Definitely! Could have sounded mahvelous with some other tunage.
Ted, you caught me. The pic is from another show. I thought it was much netter than anything I took. I wanted everyone to see the Ferrari red speakers in all their glory. They did use this DAC at the Newport Beach show, but was using the Zodiac Gold at RMAF.
when pez, tyson and others complain about not being able to play their own music at RMAF, i wish they could have been in the focal room with me last year. some guy in a crowd of about 30 of us listening to the big EM's decided he wanted to hear what he called "a really bad recording to hear how they (focals) could handle it". so we had to sit through a garage recording of his friend's band who were as bad as you think they were. ridiculous. not like this guy was going to pull out $250K and buy them if he liked it. some manufacturer here had the best response: you should come with a lot of music and allow the crowd to pick out what they like. but yeah, gilligan's island would probably suck (although one room last year played a jazzy version of sesame street's theme and it was effin cool).
AHH! Well, glad they upgraded then.
when pez, tyson and others complain about not being able to play their own music at RMAF, i wish they could have been in the focal room with me last year...
Getting back to Mr. Hsu, do you know if he was using one or two subs? Every year that man gets rave reviews using his subs along with inexpensive stuff he picks up at the local Best Buy as kind of an afterthought. I'm not much of a bass freak but he's really onto something and has been for quite some time.
Well, that is what my wife said, I was acting like a 12 year old.Thanks Pez for inviting me to post. I do apologize to all the other AC'er's about being a party pooper. Paul invited me to the evening get together, but my wife and I was very worn out. Plus we were visiting my daughter and grandkids in Denver, they had just moved there last year. There was just too much going on.
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