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Any comments on the vapor cirrus speakers? Are they as good as they are touted to be?
Nice try but your statement makes no sense. Klaus is a German American and, unlike the Chinese knock-offs, he liscensed the Symphonic designs. The Chinese just rip off designs with no regard for intellectual property. Klaus could have made his stuff (or had someone else make it) in China for less money but he knew the quality would not have been up to his standards. I salute Odyssey!
Tyson - But still, OTL amps. No one should use OTL's, for anything, ever. IMO. Mike Galusha, you are the exception that proves the rule.
Lowther roomSo we were coaxed into coming into this room. Listening to dsotm on vinyl. Imaging is pretty damn good. It's more than pretty damn good it's very phenomenally excellently great. (running out of steam and adjectives can you tell) it can sound pretty shouty at times, but never erring in maintaining integrity. I've got somewhat mixed feelings about this sound I guess. Tyson - Finally, a single driver speaker I like!!!!! Oh, wait... Seriously though, I did not like this system from the 1st row and gladly gave up the sweet spot to Pez. But then a funny thing happened. In the 2nd row the sound just gelled and lost the stridency I heard from the front row. Ah, now we are talking! Good imaging, bass, and soundstage. I'm still not a lowther guy, but I gotta give props when a room works, and this one did
This room is beautiful. The XA diamonds are amazingly sculpted and definitely grab your attention when you walk in the room. I looks like what I imagine audioohile heaven would look like when you walk in. Ironically they are playing very angelic choral music and it sounds wonderful. Great soundstage, but not so sure about the imagining as the piece they are playing is very disperse sounding. Thus for I do enjoy what I'm hearing. We are listening to our music now. (remember this is LIVE coverage folks!!!)Sibelius sounds seductive, but not quite as woodsy as I have heard it sound on other setups. Great dynamics thus far. I like the balance of theses speakers not tipped up, not bottom heavy but just right. Ani sounds wonderful! Wow great detail to vocals very focused soundstage and imaging. Very anchored I love it and want more of it!!! Great back up vocals separation. This is truly a great system. Possibly top spot with the TAD room? Great dynamics on the Mahler!!! Wow. These speakers are the real deal head to toe. I have nothing remotely negative to say about them. Tool has great head banging qualities. Great bass great slam, just fucking awesome. 10 out of 10 performance in the same category of the TAD room. Phenomenal. Tyson - Jesus Christ! Ceramic midrange drivers? Diamond tweeters? I HATE those types of drivers. How the hell did I let Pez talk me into going into this room?Wait a minute... This sounds, uhm, kinda good. Oh, no, that's not right, it sounds very good. No, that's not right either. It sounds AMAZING. F'ing AMAZING. Holy crap! I have listened to a sh!tload of speakers using accuton ceramic drivers and they ALL sucked, bad. But not these. These pull of the crazy trick of absolute transparency and killer dynamics (as all accutons do), but coupled with a smooth, seductive, non fatiguing sound. What? Crap! I now have to change my assumptions about how these types of drivers can sound. I hate when that happens. This room is at least as good as the TAD room (but in a different way). Tied, IMO for best sounding room at RMAF this year, so far.
Sorry for the abysmal can jam coverage guys. We didn't spend very much time there unfortunately. We are now listening to the Ayon/avm system. It's pretty rockin!!! I'm not so hot on the way the system is balanced but it has a pretty high groove factor none the less. Crazy looking speakers. you can definitely tell they are horn loaded they have quite a bit of dynamics. And image quite well. But again the balance is very very dry and really lacks body. Tyson - crazy good dynamics on this system, maybe the best dynamics of any speaker at the show. No, scratch that, they had THE best dynamics of any speaker here, so far. But they also had ear piercing treble that crushed any enjoyment I might have derived from this system.
TeresonicThis the first full range driver room we've been in. I have to say I really like the way see speakers sound. They are natural, and full. As with most fullrangers they lack treble definition and bass fundamentals, but overall what is there is nice and well defined. The mid bass is very good and vocals are excellent. Imaging is very nice!!! Focused and solid. Love the look of the amp. Tyson - Not bad for a single driver speaker. Good pace, good extension, awesome cabinet work (they are like pieces of art). But my personal bias is that single driver speakers should be banished to the same rung of hell that OTL amps occupy. Perhaps I'm not the best person to comment on rooms like this....
Redwine audioThis room sound remarkably balanced on the sibilieus. The violin sounds sweet and seductive. Wow, not t eying to be over bassy almost like they were balanced before just turning them on. Great soundstage and imaging on the ani difranco track. I'm really likening this little setup. Emotional and well balanced. Another set of speakers that disappear nicely. If you are at RMAF you need to check this room out for sure. Now in to mahler. On the Mahker they do admirably and dynamics, but are not going to win award for gut punching visceral bass. Tool from outside of the sweet spot sounds very energetic and confident. My head is bobbing, that's a good thing! Any way great room. Tyson - Quiet. Very Quiet. Spooky Quiet!! Noise floor? WHAT noise floor? 3 things Red Wine did right that other manufacturers should sit up and take notice of - 1st, speakers are appropriately sized to the room. 2nd, they are pulled well out, away from the walls. 3rd, room treatments on the side walls. Kudos to getting the fundamentals right!Sound? OK not too surprising - they were coherent, precise, punchy, and had a great soundstage. Deeeeep bass was missing on the Mahler, but the mid and upper bass was great on Tool. Overall, quite a good room. And Vinnie is one of the coolest people we talked to today
Deqx...Tyson - I will tell you guys a secret. Pez secretly thinks the DEQX guys sabotaged the non-corrected Gallo's to make the corrected demo more impressive. I think he's full of sh!t. But I'm a former DEQX owner so I'm clearly biased Seriously though, the switch between corrected passive gallos and non-corrected passive gallos was incredibly obvious to everyone in the room except for the deaf 70 year old dude hogging the sweet spot. He actually said he could not hear the difference. I think he needs a different hobby.And the difference between the passive Gallo's and the fully active Tikandi speakers? Not even in the same ball park. I'm seriously considering buying a DEQX again...
Audio artistry/parts express
Wharfdale/parasound/quadThis room is a lower budget room. The sound is pretty good, there isn't a lot of focus to the soundstage or image. Totally this setup is good. However there isn't anything that is making me want to really like this setup. At the same time there isn't anything that makes me want to hate it either. Dynamics are pretty run of the mill for this price range and bass slam is just barely good. I keep going back to the imaging on this setup, it's just not solid enough to feel 'hifi'.Tyson - what can you say when the guy running the room is clearly better and more classy than the sound coming from the speakers? Tough spot. Great peeps in this room, but only average sound.
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