Quick and easy question

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irishpatrick33

Quick and easy question
« on: 24 Dec 2010, 11:24 pm »
I have an issue that needs to be solved. I am building speakers and need to test one channel by itself. I have no ability to fade my source or amp.



I know there is some way to play only one speaker and not blow the amplifier (resistor?). What value resistor do I need to use for the phantom channel?
My amp is NuFOrce Icon Amp:
Input:RCA analog maximum 2Vrms
Output: Peak power: 30W x 2 (4 Ohm)
Output power at 1% THD+N, A-weighted: 24W x 2 (4 Ohm), 18W x 2 (8 Ohm)
Gain: 22.2 dB
THD+N: 0.02%

Speaker
Dayton DAEXSFH Steered Flux High Shove Exciter 25mm:
Power handling: 15W RMS • Impedance: 8 ohms

srb

Re: Quick and easy question
« Reply #1 on: 24 Dec 2010, 11:32 pm »
While many amplifiers can be operated without a load, I'm not going to venture a guess if your NuForce is one of them.
 
You can always use a power resistor of proper resistance and sufficient power dissipation like this 8 ohm 20W power resistor
 
Steve

irishpatrick33

Re: Quick and easy question
« Reply #2 on: 24 Dec 2010, 11:46 pm »
Common sense suggested as much. But I would rather play it safe, than blow up an amp.


Thanks a million! Merry Christmas.

*Scotty*

Re: Quick and easy question
« Reply #3 on: 25 Dec 2010, 01:01 am »
You should be able to put a shorting plug into the input on the channel you don't want to use.With no signal applied at the input you won't need a dummy load on the output of the unused channel.
  You can make a shorting RCA plug by soldering a piece of wire between the center pin and the ground.
Inexpensive RCA plugs can be purchased from RadioShack,audio jewelry does not need to be used for this application.
Scotty

Listens2tubes

Re: Quick and easy question
« Reply #4 on: 31 Dec 2010, 08:09 pm »
Buy monoblocks. :lol:

Sorry :oops: I couldn't resist.

Johnny2Bad

Re: Quick and easy question
« Reply #5 on: 2 Jan 2011, 01:28 pm »
Although many amps tolerate no load well, you can never make generalizations because that is not always guaranteed. A proper power resistor across the output of the unloaded channel is always a good idea. Perhaps more importantly, you are testing the amplifier (or at least, using the amplifier to perform a test on another component). This implies you will be driving the amp with "something".


Obtain two power resistors and use them on any unloaded (not under test) channel. One per channel, 8 ohms is always a good value to use as a general rule. They will get hot ... air cooling is usually fine but not always enough. Don't touch them during or after power has been applied; burns are possible.


The power rating of the resistors is not really easy to give general answers on but if you limit testing time you may be OK. More is always better with regard to the power rating, but of course there is a cost penalty as the rating goes up. I would consider 10W as a minimum but if you can find higher rated units, get them.


It's the only way to be reasonably safe. Most people would build a test fixture to house the resistors, but if you're careful it's possible to use them naked. Re-read the part about getting hot, above.


There is often no problem with shorting inputs as Scotty suggested, but again, it's hard to generalize because this is not guaranteed in every possible configuration. Care should be taken if you don't know for sure. And a final warning ... NEVER short outputs, only inputs.


Remember the cardinal rule about electronics: components are like Aladin's Lamp, and if you rub the lamp the wrong way, the smoke will be released. It is always your goal to keep the smoke inside the lamp.

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Re: Quick and easy question
« Reply #6 on: 2 Jan 2011, 03:27 pm »
The NuFOrce Icon Amp appears to be a very modern solid state amplifier.  No well designed modern solid state amplifier requires a dummy load.

sebrof

Re: Quick and easy question
« Reply #7 on: 2 Jan 2011, 03:58 pm »
I doubt the NuForce needs a load, but couldn't he just unplug one of the CD Player inputs??

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Re: Quick and easy question
« Reply #8 on: 10 Jan 2011, 05:12 am »
You people are overthinking this. 

Hook up one or both channels' speakers.

Supply signal only to the channel you wish to test.

Aloha,

Poinz

Ericus Rex

Re: Quick and easy question
« Reply #9 on: 10 Jan 2011, 01:58 pm »
To elaborate on Poindexter's comment;  hook up both speakers but only plug in one channel's interconnect.