Acoustic treatments

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ZooDog

Acoustic treatments
« on: 10 Mar 2004, 01:18 am »
Hi,

I've decided that before I buy any more components I want to invest in some room treatments.  I can do basically whatever I want with this room so if they are ugly that's ok.  I'm thinking I want to keep the cost <$1000.  I've checked out Eigth Nerve and they definitely seem to have some good products for the money.  I've also been loooking at RPG's website as well.  Are there any other companies that I should check out?

My room is about 14ft L x 9ft W x 8ft H.  It used to be an office so there is a cheesy drop ceiling.  I'd love some feedback.

Tim

srclose

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« Reply #1 on: 10 Mar 2004, 01:48 am »
I'm set up in an 8x10x18 room with carpet and the Eighth Nerve products made a huge difference in the quality of the sound.  Used a Room Pack Plus, and I'm experimenting with some Jon Risch bass traps and absorption panels in the back of the room.

warnerwh

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« Reply #2 on: 10 Mar 2004, 06:19 am »
Check out the LEDE,(live end dead end), method. Many recording studios and of the best audio systems like this method. You cover all the back wall behind your system and maybe a quarter of the way out on the walls and ceilings with acoustic foam. You can get foam at foambymail or http://www.foamorder.com/products.cgi?cart=b0W0t0n29193142221n6A2c1Z&item=acoustic
You can have them cut it to any size(s) you need. The thicker stuff is what you want. Be ready to be amazed. This is a major necessity of a great audio system.  Room acoustics are usually overlooked as electronics or speakers get blamed for certain things people don't like.  The room is almost as important as your speakers and will make an electronics/cable upgrade pale in comparison. Also when you do make electronic/cable upgrades you'll appreciate it much more.
After the acoustic foam a bass trap or two is usually a good idea as almost all rooms have problems in the bass region. Diy bass traps can be made fairly easily for much less than aftermarket ones cost. Brian Cheney of VMPS wrote a good article titled "A good acoustical environment". It can be found at vmps.com.  
I've done everything I've recommended myself in my living room.  Probably spent 6-700 dollars or so.  VERY worthwhile. I don't know what I was waiting for.  I'm sure you'll find others who feel the same way.  You're correct about doing the room before upgrading anything else. It's a necessity.  Do a search here and other audio forums for more info.

robertwb

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« Reply #3 on: 11 Mar 2004, 12:00 am »
I'd recommend checking out this - http://www.realtraps.com/minitraps.htm

it's one of the few I've seen that extends the effectiveness into the bass-where it's usually needed most

not real high SAF but you said that's not an issue

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« Reply #4 on: 13 Mar 2004, 04:40 am »
www.cinepanel.com

use the mirror trick to find first reflections including your cheessy ceiling put a panel there  and move on.

Mirror trick- have someone go around the perimeter of the room and you in the sweetspot and tell them when you can see your speaker ,front right then front left ec. Mark the wall where you see the speaker and move along the wall and mark again etc. This is first points of reflections. You will see improvements in sound,diaglog etc.

Have fun,

Larry

Brad V

Probably the easiest way to go and get great results
« Reply #5 on: 14 Mar 2004, 12:27 am »
email or fax your room layout to the Eight Nerve folks. They will recommend what they believe you need. I haven't heard one room, where the 8th Nerve stuff didn't make a major improvement. It is very inexpensive in comparison to many others.

mca

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« Reply #6 on: 14 Mar 2004, 05:59 pm »
In my theater room, I used the Eighth Nerve roompack on all the corners and wall seams. The sound was much better than the original untreated room. I just bought three Respond Panels from Accoustics First, put two on the side walls and one on the ceiling. This cut down on the first order reflections and took the rooms sound up another big notch.