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Harpers will arrive in March/May. Not sure about the subs. Abbey will not get here until the summer.I believe they are outstanding speakers in their price range. I don't know any other speakers that has the same performance for that price. I can't afford speakers that cost many times more and I'm far from sure that they would sound much better. The multiple subwoofer approach also seem very logical to me.
...My hats off to Jason for sticking his head out and divulging the measurements that he has for all critical eyes to see/discuss/dissect/ponder about....
I orderd some in November and it is sounding like I might get them in May. I'm not sure I would have gone this route had I known it was going to take this long.
No, I have not. I took a leap of faith. I hope they are worth the wait.
Thanks guys! Yes, I've done hundreds of measurements now. I'm on my third setup since moving the subs around and this is the best yet. HolmImpulse has some excellent features that REW doesn't. If Holm continues to develop that tool it will truly be the most advanced imo. Being able to check and set the phase and delay on each sub has been invaluable. It's sounding the best it has since getting them in my room. Orso, I encourage you to start a thread on your setup, room and effort. Not only will GedLee owners learn something but everyone that decides to measure and dig deeper into proper room setup will. I don't understand why more people don't take the time to measure and at least see what they have just out of curiosity. With a bit of time and some tweaking they can make a huge improvement.
Wow! Six months of waiting with no set delivery date in sight. IMO this is poor business practice. If he has so much business, he should hire help rather than making his customers wait so long. -Roy
Roy, this is easy to say and very hard to do when you are a small businessman for many reasons.A lot of business choices revolve around 3 criteria: market size (projected sales); quality desired; finally, selling price/profit. It is hard to juggle these three. In a boutique audio business, the market is unstable and sales fluctuate wildly. It is hard to pay bills and eat when there are no sales. Quality is probably the hardest of the three when a peraon is hired to do a particular job in a field that is new to them. How many professional cabinet makers proficient in polyurethane construction do you know? The third is very tricky. People (myself included) want the higest quality at the lowest price possible. If Dr. Geddes was charging for the value of his speakers vs. the current marketplace they would easily be double the price.I can only speak for myself when it comes to this part - My business runs from no orders to unbelieveably backordered at the drop of a hat. I provide the higest value /dollar in my field that is possible while maintaining the highest quality (for an ugly black box) that I can. People buy my products for what they do, not how they look. I have run the numbers. If I hired a person to help my (legally, which is the ONLY way I would do it) my price would need to triple in order to make the same living that I am now. This is something that I cannot and would not do. Besides, when business slowed down, I would have to lay the person off and provide unemployment compensation benefits through an insurance plan. If a person is hurt on the job who do you think pays? In the coming economic climate I would have to provide healthcare. Teaching someone how to do something is a long process. Even then there is no guarantee of product quality from another persons' hand. You should try to hire competent help at what a job is worth not what the employee wants to be paid. My zoning allows me to work out of my residence as long as I do not have employees. I cannot afford to do what I do for the price I get while maintaining a manufacturing plant. Then there is security that must be dealt with as well as all of the OSHA requirements.It is easy to judge anothers' performance in any particular field of endeavor. In our industry something is either worth the investment, in the context of dollars and time involved), or it isn't. That is up to the buyer not necessarily the spectator IME.My $1.98Dave
Not saying you Dave, but this is how fly by nighters operate... just so you know.
There are crooks in every aspect of business. Remember AV123... or Enron? A majority of the high(est) quality, low volume audio retailers are one man operations just like mine. I refuse to source my products (even at 4 times the potential profit) from China. Not gonna do it!Just so you know, most of the fly by nighters had no clue as to what they were doing to begin with nor the guts to deal with the marketplace extant.I'm just sayin' >>>>>>>>>>Dave
I would never place an order with a company that requires 1/2 down and has a track record of indeterminate delivery dates. You would think that the delivery date could at least be specified to the month and if not achieved the customer would have the option of canceling the order and the deposit returned. A pair of Abbey kits are now pushing 4 grand. Somehow I get the feeling that he's pushing the price higher and higher till the orders drop off and the waiting period is stretched out to whenever. What happens if he goes under or just shuts down? Do the customers lose their deposits?I'm sure that they're great speakers but once you get to a certain level other speakers become viable options with great cabinetry to boot.-Roy
Well, I do understand your concern. However, I can also say that I've never heard anything like the GedLee system. It's no joke!If you place an order and get tired of waiting Dr. Geddes will most certainly refund your deposit. I asked before placing mine.
