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We shall repeat our LvR demo in 2011 at the Flamingo, this time in the 27x51' Virginia City I ballroom.
Thanks for posting. We repeated the LvR demonstration in 2010 in the Lake Mead Ballroom of the Flamingo hotel with an even bigger band and more performers. This time we used a purpose-built speaker (the RM 50) which incorporated lessons learned from the 2009 show. Press and listener response was excellent.I remember the AR LvR demos from my early days in audio. The musicians back then were recorded anechoically ahead of time to avoid the Problem of the Two Acoustics. We eliminated most of the effect by room treatments (absorption) and speaker placement. We went a little farther than AR did in using vocalists and a seven piece ensemble, including piano, double bass, full percussion and (in 2010) bass drum. There was little difference between the live and recorded sound, with vocals sounding a little richer in playback due to double reverberation.We shall repeat our LvR demo in 2011 at the Flamingo, this time in the 27x51' Virginia City I ballroom. I hope you can attend, Jan 6-9.
This was the claim to fame of new AR-3a, demonstrating it's neutrality in musical reproduction. I still have all of the old catalogs from Acoustic Research and am always amazed at how advanced the product lines were. I was fortunate enough to own (new) the AR-2ax and the AR-5 speakers as well as several AR-XA turntables, which I now modify to my own ilk.I always wanted a pair of AR-3a's but at 17, a little over my head on the price. I always that they were a very neutral speaker, more so then the competing KLH or Advents of the time, however, the Dynaco A25s seemed to give it a run for the money (maybe the later version of the A25XL), but the AR had a lower bottom end.BTW, welcome to the Audiocircles.Wayner
I remember attending one of Acoustic Resrarch's Live vs Recorded demos at a Hi Fi show at the Cow Palace in San Francisco in the very early 60's. The demo was very impresive for that time. I too found myself lusting for AR3s until the reality set in that a pair exceeded my months total income as an Air Force Lieutennant includung base pay, housing allowance, and flight pay! Then later there was the day I found a Marantz dealer going out of business who was willing to sell me a new Marantz 10B tuner for $500 (which I still have and which is worth four times that). This was a sum that was far more than a months pay and which darn near caused my wife (which I still also have) to divorce me! How times have changed -- or have they? Paul
I feel very connected to Acoustic Research. My first real system was a Dynaco Pat-4, Dynaco Stereo 120, a pair of AR-2ax's and an AR-XA turntable. I also had a fairly decent Aiwa reel to reel, so I did lots of recording. I also had a Kenwood receiver that I used as a tuner and recorded lots of off-the-air music. That was the first love and the true beginnings of my path down thru the audiophile world. I later upgraded the AR-2ax's to AR-5's and traded the Dynacos for a Marantz 3300 preamp and 240 power amp. This was a killer system for it's time and I wish like hell that I still had all of the pieces.BTW, I did lots of live recordings when I was a kid (later trading that Aiwa reel to reel for a Revox) and remember how well the ARs sounded with concerts that I had recorded. Sorry to get off topic, but I had to go down memory lane for a bit.Wayner
Looks like a lot of us were AR customers back then.I had a pair of AR 4x's and then later AR 3a's. (and of course the AR turntable)Those were the halcyon days of audio.Some day I should make a list of all my old systems. They are fun to remember.In any event Our Live versus Recorded Event seems to draw a lot of attention, and good comments.I would be easier if we were selling headphones (since we wouldn't have to deal with double reverb) but we aren't.An outside venue might be an interesting and easier recording space, but with the weather in Vegas that time of year being so unpredictable it is not likely a possibility. Maybe a big tent?
There was an English folk band in the early 1970's called Heron who made a point of recording outside, in a field.They set up a microphone away from the band to pick up the sounds of the countryside - birds singing etc.. However they found that they had to tamper with the result in order to get exactly what they wanted! (This information comes from their anthology CD called 'Upon Reflection: The Dawn Anthology')
What's even more interesting is I had speaker stands virtually identical to the ones in the picture above Except they said 4x and 3a But in any event, the reason Brian does the LvsR, is because the ultimate driving goal in High End Audio is the faithful reproduction of the recorded event in "your" environment.While I know most High End Companies beleive in that goal, few would take up the challenge so directly as you once did, and Brian now does.It certainly is a challenge, and each year it gets better and better in both recording and reproducing.
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