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I have just come across this thread, and I am trying to understand why one would not just use the optical output from one's Oppo? What is the difference between doing that and de-embedding the HDMI to 2 channel optical using the Altona?
I'm the OP. And yes, most any of these ($50 Monoprice, etc) will work with the Oppo 103 to de-embed HDMi to 88k PCM (still debatable whether Oppo strips off bits to 16 or leaves them at 24) as long as you set the Oppo's SACD menu setting to PCM. Frankly, ripping them to DSD (PS3 thread of mine) and then using Audiogate to convert to PCM is a longer-term better approach cuz then you have the DSD files for later use on the BDA-2 when it goes DSD-capable...and short-term you have the ability to convert above 88k (i.e 24/176k) and knowing it is full 24 bit. More work, though.
Hi Rez Gurus, I want to find out if I can use the Sony BDPS-590 universal player to play SACDs and do the HDMI de-embedding to get the digital audio out. Will the digital output be 24 bit by 96K format? . This can play all disc formats except for DVD-A format. How does the quality compare to the Oppo players. I appreciate any information on this.
Hi Ted. First time poster here. I found this thread because I recently purchased a Bryston SP3 for my system and have been following some of their threads on AudioCircle.Here's my system: I have an OPPO BDP-103 player, a Bryston SP3 pre/pro, a Lexicon LX-7 amp, a Toshiba HD-XA2 HD player and a custom-built computer with Toslink and COAX outs (I run my own computer business). The music server is running Win7 Pro with a small SSD drive for the OS and 2 x 2TB mirrored drives for my library. I run iTunes and have ripped my entire library using AIFF.My library includes a lot of SACD and multi-ch SACDs as well as disks in DXD, xrcd, xrcd24, HDCD, UDC, LPCD45, etc. I also have many DVD-As and a few titles from AIX records.For cables I use:Computer --> SP3 : Morrow Audio DIG4 coax 1mSP3 --> LX7 : Cardas Golden Presence balanced .5mLX7 --> Elac FS:248s : Chord Carnival bi-wired 4.5mI have tested many ways of listening to the better CDs in my collection and have concluded that the best sound was through my computer using iTunes using a Morrow Audio DIG4 coax cable to my Bryston SP3. I have tried USB and Toslink, but the coax seems best. I also tried the CDs directly from the OPPO; a Mac Mini using USB; and other high-end CD players such as a Cambridge Audio Azur 840C, but the computer has always sounded the best.Now I read this thread (well, not ALL of it) and am left to wonder if I should try the MonoPrice piece to see if the sacd's will sound better than the computer (and what about all my other formats?). I'd love to get your feelings on this, and being in Canada, where would I buy the MonoPrice - from their website?Thanks.
Thanks Ted, I see what you are saying now. I didn't realize the digital out from the Oppo was restricted that way.I still feel cheated when I have a multichannel audio disc and have to dumb it down either (1) to 2 channel or (2) through a HDMI receiver's audio.Do you know of a hardware solution for multichannel?Or is it possible via ripping as documented in your other thread? (What is its title?)
Note this thread as well - http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=115419.msg1206388#new
So this new feature for my OPPO sounds interesting, but I'm not there yet. I've never heard DSD or DSF files. I'm still trying to figure out, like I said in my first post, how to use a device like the MonoPrice and will it sound better than what I'm currently listening to through my computer system with my SACDs?
I've only had my current DAC (Meitner MA-1) a short time. I do have the Monoprice de-embedder hooked to it via an Oppo BDP-83 doing 24/88.2kHz via PCM the same as I had with my old DAC (Bryston BDA-1). I am really new to DSF and DFF files. Sounds better than the de-embedder. I've also heard my system with an earlier version of my music server (I have a HAL MS-2) playing DFF files at 176.4kHz the same as you can from a computer (if you have ISO, DFF, DSF files) with my old DAC and I did think it sounded better than the de-embedder. I've had the de-embedder (in fact have a second one that I was using for a bit in a secondary basement system - have the Port-ta unit and they make the Monoprice unit. I've had the de-embedders for some time. How are you currently playing SACDs on the computer (if you are and if not you can get the files ripped from the discs)?
Well, if you are just listening to a CD layer of an SACD, I would think getting 24/88.2 from the Oppo and de-embedder is going to be an improvement. When I was using the de-embedders (with being able to decode DSD in the DAC I may eventually stick them in some spare system if I get a non-DSD DAC), I also used an upgraded power supply. For the Monoprice unit, anything that will work with the Squeezebox Touch will work. It's not a night and day different but it helps a bit. If you get the hi-rez files ripped, then you can hear higher resolution PCM from the computer.
Sounds good. Another question - why is the sound better after I ripped the CD into iTunes than directly from the OPPO's HDMI out (which would be the SACD layer) into the Bryston?
Looks like John Gatski finally did his review of HDMI embedders !!http://everythingaudionetwork.blogspot.com/2013/04/audiophile-review-hdmi-de-embedder.htmlHad not heard of the Kanex Pro unit..Todd
I've been using my Oppo direct to my amplifiers for 2 channel listening or using the Oppo's hdmi to a pre/pro for home theater. I picked up a Cherry DAC DAC and then realized the Oppo won't output sacd's digitally. I just ordered a KanexPro De-Embedder and a 1 foot hdmi. I'll report back on how it works.
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