I've been reading this thread for several weeks and I really have no idea what it is all about, but apparently there are several posters who are really into it and who enjoy posting links to stuff. But what the hell, as a nod to those posters I thought I would post some links to something other than Goth Rock and similar stuff. I may or may not listen to this stuff but what difference does that make? I have no idea what the posters are attempting to articulate or what point they are attempting to make. Since that is the case here you go for whatever it is worth. My apologies to the posters who are into Goth or similar music.