This thing is insane...

Laundrew · « **Reply #20 on:** 30 Aug 2009, 07:14 pm »

Thank you very much SF

Be well...

vegasdave · « **Reply #21 on:** 30 Aug 2009, 08:16 pm »

Quote from: alexone on 30 Aug 2009, 11:58 am

Quote from: vegasdave on 29 Aug 2009, 07:48 pm
Yeah, those are a new model for the US and Canada. It's supposed to be better quality and sound than the Studio L series. I personally can't say as I haven't heard them (or seen them "in the flesh") yet.

I'd say they'd sound great. If what I'm using is of any indication.

Can you audition them?

Dave,

i auditioned a pair of LS60 speakers and was impressed about the clean sound. i never payed much attention to (JBL) Horn speakers but now i guess i have to...
the LS80 are the bigger ones and therefore a deeper bass can be expected?! the dealer where i auditioned the LS60 said that he can order a brandnew pair of LS80 and i could safe another 600 euros!!! so they would be 2600 euros (pair) insted of 3200 euros. sounds like a big deal for me...but i am not experienced enough with this type of speaker so i just don't know what to do

al.

Yeah, you'll probably get more bass. You can get the 4348s from Kenrick Sound in Tokyo, Japan... although those might be too expensive for you.

vegasdave · « **Reply #22 on:** 30 Aug 2009, 08:17 pm »

Quote from: Laundrew on 30 Aug 2009, 04:03 pm

http://hometheaterreview.com/jbl-project-array-1400-array-loudspeaker/

A quick review on the JBL 1400 Project Array.

Be well...

I've seen that. Also they have a review on the Everests.

Laundrew · « **Reply #23 on:** 4 Sep 2009, 04:26 am »

I have never realized that a piano (of all instruments) would be so difficult to reproduce. The notes sound so much richer and vibrant on the new system. It is amazing at how much of the music you never heard before.

On a side bar, I ordered my first SACD box set "Dead Can Dance," which is produced in Japan. It should arrive around the same time as my SACD player is scheduled to arrive. I am very curious about the level of quality of this Japanese re-master.

Be well...

Mag · « **Reply #24 on:** 4 Sep 2009, 06:01 am »

As good as Bryston amps are there is still something about piano that I don't think a stereo can reproduce. I was walking through a lobby of a hospital and I heard a piano playing. I knew instantly it was a real piano and I looked around to find where the piano was to verify. Now I can't say for sure without a stereo there playing side by side, that it wouldn't be equal in realism to the piano. What I believe the difference is, is a multiple point source from the piano with each note. The human ear can differentiat the different arrival times of each note. Whereas a piano played on a stereo would be just a 2 point sources, the speakers.

Another instrument that might be just as tough to reproduce right on a stereo, is the harp. I was listening to a song where I could discern a harp go up and down the scale. I wasn't aware this was a harp intrument before I got my 3B SST/2.

I only listened to two sacd so far. The first was Shania Twain-Up which I consider to be one of the best sacd I've heard. Anyway I usually only play four songs on this disc and skip over the rest. I found that even these songs that I skip over were palitable. It also gave this sacd another dimension in multi-channel, that was very pleasing to listen to.

The second sacd which I also have in concert dts. I still preferred the dts version as to my ears had better transparency and harmonics. This isn't to say dts is superior to sacd just that the mixing or transfer was better with the dts. So it's all realitive sacd sounds better but so does everything else.

Laundrew · « **Reply #25 on:** 4 Sep 2009, 01:22 pm »

Interesting observation Mag - I must see if I can track down some Harp music aa

Be well...

Laundrew · « **Reply #26 on:** 5 Sep 2009, 04:59 am »

Well, today marks the first full week with the new system, the SACD player has not arrived as of yet

One thing that struck me today is that I have been listening to music at much lower volume levels than my previous system - something about big amplifiers easily filling a room with great sound. I finally got a handle on not letting the volume levels creep up unexpectantly

Be well...

Mag · « **Reply #27 on:** 5 Sep 2009, 01:36 pm »

Initially when I added the 3B SST/2 to my system I would raise the volume 3 or 4 notches past my normal volume range as my perception of loudness changed. After two weeks though I've adjusted to the difference in the highs and I find that I am lowering the volume 3 or 4 notches.

I still like to play concert recordings at concert levels 92 to 95 decibels. Last night I was playing the BCD-1 restored version of Emerson, Lake & Palmer- Show that Never Ends. My God, I'm probably the only person who has heard this concert like the night it was recorded. Anyway there is a pretty good piano piece on Karn Evil 9 part II. I'm wondering if you set a stereo system up in a public place if you would be able to fool the majority of the people who walk by. That they think they are hearing a real piano? I think if you had it hidden behind a blanket or installed it in a piano itself it would fool people, not having a visual clue to bias their response.

Then I played Heart- Live in Seattle in 5.0 dts. I swear the sound is like sitting in the front row seats at the actual concert. I finished the night with Porcupine Tree- Arriving Somewhere Not Here, in dts at concert level. Another you are there recorded performance.

Laundrew · « **Reply #28 on:** 5 Sep 2009, 08:36 pm »

I had a little bit of a chuckle earlier today. My wife's favourite time of the year is Christmas. I was typing away on the computer and she wanted to update her Christmas shopping list. "hon," she said and inquired what I would like for Christmas?

I replied, "a pair of JBL K2s would be nice"

I hear pencil scratching on her Christmas list

. "What color would you like?" she asked.

"Doesn't matter dear, any color will do."

That will make it a little easier, she smiles and leaves the room all happy.

I have a nice little snicker to myself

then I realize... won't I look like an arse if a pair of K2s wind up under the tree

vegasdave · « **Reply #29 on:** 5 Sep 2009, 08:57 pm »

Well, if she can afford them, why not?

Laundrew · « **Reply #30 on:** 5 Sep 2009, 09:44 pm »

ian.ameline · « **Reply #31 on:** 5 Sep 2009, 11:13 pm »

You mean the S9900? Those are around 44K, right? And you'll need a couple of 28Bs to drive them too. Or perhaps 2 7Bs for each (bi-amped) with a 10b crossover.

Laundrew · « **Reply #32 on:** 6 Sep 2009, 12:20 am »

Quote from: ian.ameline on 5 Sep 2009, 11:13 pm

You mean the S9900? Those are around 44K, right? And you'll need a couple of 28Bs to drive them too. Or perhaps 2 7Bs for each (bi-amped) with a 10b crossover.

Yes, the JBL K2 S9800 - I think that they would be an awesome match with the 28Bs. Yes, the list price is around $40K in Canada.

Be well...

Laundrew · « **Reply #33 on:** 6 Sep 2009, 02:44 am »

Quote from: ian.ameline on 5 Sep 2009, 11:13 pm

You mean the S9900? Those are around 44K, right? And you'll need a couple of 28Bs to drive them too. Or perhaps 2 7Bs for each (bi-amped) with a 10b crossover.

post scriptum,

What is a "10b" crossover

James Tanner · « **Reply #34 on:** 6 Sep 2009, 03:43 am »

Quote from: Laundrew on 6 Sep 2009, 02:44 am

Quote from: ian.ameline on 5 Sep 2009, 11:13 pm
You mean the S9900? Those are around 44K, right? And you'll need a couple of 28Bs to drive them too. Or perhaps 2 7Bs for each (bi-amped) with a 10b crossover.

post scriptum,

What is a "10b" crossover

http://www.bryston.com/crossel.html

Laundrew · « **Reply #35 on:** 6 Sep 2009, 04:04 am »

Thank you James

Laundrew · « **Reply #36 on:** 8 Sep 2009, 10:39 pm »

Well I have literally cycled over 100 CDs in my new system at this time. Surprisingly, I have only experience one poorly recorded CD. I would of thought that I would of experienced more than one questionably recorded CD during this run. A lot of my CDs that I enjoy are not really produced for large market runs - I guess that they are not very popular with the mainstream.

The CD that surprised me the most for poor audio quality was Boston, Third Stage. This really caught me off guard because it sounded pretty good on my previous system. There was just "no life" in this CD at all and I am curious if this is a result of poor dynamic range in the CD - truly an "ear opener."

vegasdave · « **Reply #37 on:** 9 Sep 2009, 01:41 am »

Quote from: Laundrew on 8 Sep 2009, 10:39 pm

The CD that surprised me the most for poor audio quality was Boston, Third Stage. This really caught me off guard because it sounded pretty good on my previous system. There was just "no life" in this CD at all and I am curious if this is a result of poor dynamic range in the CD - truly an "ear opener."

It's probably the cd. One thing I noticed about Bryston equipment is it is very "truthful" in its sound. It will "tell you like it is." It doesn't make everything bad like a lot of high end systems, and it doesn't color the sound like a lot of high end systems.

Laundrew · « **Reply #38 on:** 9 Sep 2009, 09:14 pm »

Quote from: vegasdave on 9 Sep 2009, 01:41 am

Quote from: Laundrew on 8 Sep 2009, 10:39 pm
The CD that surprised me the most for poor audio quality was Boston, Third Stage. This really caught me off guard because it sounded pretty good on my previous system. There was just "no life" in this CD at all and I am curious if this is a result of poor dynamic range in the CD - truly an "ear opener."

It's probably the cd. One thing I noticed about Bryston equipment is it is very "truthful" in its sound. It will "tell you like it is." It doesn't make everything bad like a lot of high end systems, and it doesn't color the sound like a lot of high end systems.

I wonder if the "sound" of this CD will further degrade with the addition new CD player - should be interesting

vegasdave · « **Reply #39 on:** 9 Sep 2009, 09:59 pm »

Well, there's only 1 way to find out...play it!