[John Casler]

In the interests of assisting all fledgling audiophiles suffering from today's economic conditions I have assembled a VMPS based Stimulus Package.

Many are finding it hard to get into the hobby, and some are downsizing; this package fits both goals.

It has the simplicity of having but two items:

1) The 626jr SDE @ $1774



* Spiral Ribbon Tweeter (dehorned)
* Standard Neopanel Midrange Driver
* 6.5" poly/mica woofer 20oz magnet 4 layer VC
* Oak Cabinet
* SR71 Cabinet Damping
* CDWG - Constant Directivity Wave Guide
* Fully equalized DIGITAL x-over (D-OXO)
* Digilog bridge
* Power Handling 200W
* 8 Ohms, 90 dB/1W/1m


2) The  VERY COOL  aa Dared DV-6C @ $695



Max Output POWER: 6*65W(4Ω)
INPUT: AUX
5.1 input:Front(L),Front(R),Surround(L),Surround(R),Centre,Sub-woof
Output Mode:(5.1),(5.0),(2.1),Stereo
Master Volume: -60db～60db
FREQUENCY RESPONSE: 20-22KHz
DISTORTION:≤1% (55W 1KHZ 4Ω)
SIGNAL TO NOISE RATIO: ≥88dB
INPUT IMPEDANCE:47KΩ
SIZE: L350 X W190 X H150 mm
WEIGHT: 6.0Kgs/set
TUBES USED:6N2x3

All one needs add to the above system is a "Digital" source to the D-OXO and you have one of most economical (and cool looking) audiophile systems available.  For nearfield listening, it would be VERY hard to beat.

Total MSRP is $2496 plus shipping.

Please e-mail me for Intro-Package price.

[John Casler]

The little DARED integrated amp I reference above is reviewed in this months "ENJOY the MUSIC.COM".

Anyone looking for info on it or how it would perform can look here:

http://www.enjoythemusic.com/magazine/equipment/0809/dared_dv_6c.htm

[John Casler]

Also, if you are looking for a slightly lower "budget" performance system the following would be just a touch lower on the scale:

Pair 626jr = $975
Dared DV-6C = $695
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$1640 msrp

The Price Performance factor here is "off the Charts"

[simon wagstaff]

Looks good but I am a little confused. I am not quite sure I understand the digilog bridge. I would expect with the external digital crossover you would require 4 channels of amplification?

just curious.

[Housteau]

Looks good but I am a little confused. I am not quite sure I understand the digilog bridge. I would expect with the external digital crossover you would require 4 channels of amplification?

On my V-60s the external digital crossover is just used as a two way to separate the mids from the mid-bass.  The highs are crossed over from the mids by using the passive crossover.  To do this a cable (the digilog) is connected going from the direct input to the mids on the speaker, over to the midrange input on the passive crossover.  The highs are then taken out from the passive unit and connected to the speaker.

[John Casler]

Looks good but I am a little confused. I am not quite sure I understand the digilog bridge. I would expect with the external digital crossover you would require 4 channels of amplification?

just curious.

Yes as Dave (Housteau) posted the "digilog" makes the system a 2 way, binding the tweeter and Neopanel.

It can however be ordered with 3 pair of binding posts to do the 3 way.

Brian felt that many might find "biamping" more easily perfromed than "triamping".

[PLMONROE]

It can however be ordered with 3 pair of binding posts to do the 3 way.

Brian felt that many might find "biamping" more easily perfromed than "triamping".

My V-60"s were ordered with the extra binding post which permits triamping. Limited experiments with this set up indicate little improveent in sound with the added complexity and expense of another amp, speaker cables, interconnects, etc. Brian was very wise (as usual) in assuming that this feature would not be widely implemented.

Paul

[PLMONROE]

BTW John, how would this be as a stimulus package? I would think that a pair of 626jr's  or better yet RM-30's, biamped with a Nu-Force or Bryston amp on the bottom and one of Dared's 300B tube amps on the top would sound like a MILLION BUCKS!   

Paul

[simon wagstaff]

Jut to be sure I understand. In this package the Dared would run the top end and you would be using your own amp for the bottom?  I didn't understand if the Dared was supposed to be able to run the whole set up, and I am guessing that it can't but just wanted to understand.

thanks!

[srb]

Total MSRP is $2496 plus shipping.

$2469 ? ($1774 + $695)
 

Jut to be sure I understand. In this package the Dared would run the top end and you would be using your own amp for the bottom?  I didn't understand if the Dared was supposed to be able to run the whole set up, and I am guessing that it can't but just wanted to understand.

The Dared DV-6C is a 6-channel amplifier.  (But I can't believe it has spring-loaded speaker connections!)
 
Steve

[simon wagstaff]

The Dared is a 6 channel amp!  I understand now, sorry for not paying attention.  Just to cause trouble though then two channel would go unused because the SDE is only 4 channel, and perhaps with a mono sub output? so, two channels go to the neo panels and tweeter (via the digilogue crossover) and two channels go to the woofers.

I seem to recall from another thread that the DQX will only output 4 channels, or am I wrong on that a well?

Seems to be my day (or two) for being wrong.

I have just moved into a smaller room and am exploring options. Much as I would really like a set of RM30 I think my room is just too small. A 626 package with the DQX might be just the ticket. I have a AVA U70 that I would use for the panel and tweeters and a Pass aleph 30 for the woofers (probably not enough power, but just maybe as I don't really crank it up) I would plan on crossing that over using my Pioneer VX59i receiver's crossover at 80 hz to a pair of VMPS smaller subs.

that would do it, right?

thanks!

[John Casler]

BTW John, how would this be as a stimulus package? I would think that a pair of 626jr's  or better yet RM-30's, biamped with a Nu-Force or Bryston amp on the bottom and one of Dared's 300B tube amps on the top would sound like a MILLION BUCKS!   

Paul

Hi Paul,

Yes, we have those available also.  The 6 channel however was just the least expensive option, and makes a nice little package.  The others get a "little" pricier.

[John Casler]

The Dared is a 6 channel amp!  I understand now, sorry for not paying attention.  Just to cause trouble though then two channel would go unused because the SDE is only 4 channel, and perhaps with a mono sub output? so, two channels go to the neo panels and tweeter (via the digilogue crossover) and two channels go to the woofers.

On the Dared you can use as many channels as you want up to 6.

I seem to recall from another thread that the DQX will only output 4 channels, or am I wrong on that a well?

The D-OXO can be programed for either 4, or 6 channels.

Seems to be my day (or two) for being wrong.

I have just moved into a smaller room and am exploring options. Much as I would really like a set of RM30 I think my room is just too small. A 626 package with the DQX might be just the ticket. I have a AVA U70 that I would use for the panel and tweeters and a Pass aleph 30 for the woofers (probably not enough power, but just maybe as I don't really crank it up) I would plan on crossing that over using my Pioneer VX59i receiver's crossover at 80 hz to a pair of VMPS smaller subs.

that would do it, right?

thanks!

That would certainly do it.

[Housteau]

I seem to recall from another thread that the DQX will only output 4 channels, or am I wrong on that a well?

I was wrongly under this impression as well early on, but as John mentioned you are able to make use out of all 6 outputs.  I am using channels 3 & 4 for the low bass (crossover @ 66Hz) going to the VLAs.  I had been using the internal crossovers built into the mono Dayton bass amps supplied with the subs and running the full frequency spectrum out of those channels.  I am now using the power of the DCX and its crossovers for a better blend to the mid-bass of the V60.

[simon wagstaff]

Well then, that muddies the waters for me. I had thought to avoid the RM30 because I would have trouble integrating the woofers of the RM30 with my pair of smaller VMPS subs. If I can run the RM30 as full range as follows:

Tweeter and neo panels: AVA U70
Midrange:  Pass Aleph 30
Woofers: 250 watt sony amp

Using all six channels of the DQX

Then use the crossover in my receiver to support the subs, run the RM30 full range.

Does this work?

So I am back to the same question, 626 or RM30?

Still have a bit of time to think about it.

[John Casler]

Well then, that muddies the waters for me. I had thought to avoid the RM30 because I would have trouble integrating the woofers of the RM30 with my pair of smaller VMPS subs. If I can run the RM30 as full range as follows:

Tweeter and neo panels: AVA U70
Midrange:  Pass Aleph 30
Woofers: 250 watt sony amp

Using all six channels of the DQX

Then use the crossover in my receiver to support the subs, run the RM30 full range.

Does this work?

So I am back to the same question, 626 or RM30?

Still have a bit of time to think about it.

That will certainly work.  It would work best with the RM30C.