How much would you pay SOMEONE ELSE to RIP your CD's?

SlushPuppy · « **Reply #20 on:** 11 Feb 2009, 07:47 pm »

I wonder what the costs would be to ship, let's say 1000 CD's both ways with insurance?

Knowing how FedEx and UPS normally treat packages, I wouldn't trust normal channels to ship my CD collection.

About 20% of my collection is no longer in print and the prices of collectible discs have skyrocketed lately. No way I would take the risk.

Rashiki · « **Reply #21 on:** 11 Feb 2009, 07:52 pm »

I wouldn't pay for a ripping service. To me, the hassle of shipping all of my discs would far outweigh the work in ripping them myself.

-Rob

SlushPuppy · « **Reply #22 on:** 11 Feb 2009, 07:55 pm »

Quote from: Rashiki on 11 Feb 2009, 07:52 pm

I wouldn't pay for a ripping service. To me, the hassle of shipping all of my discs would far outweigh the work in ripping them myself.

-Rob

Exactly

Cacophonix · « **Reply #23 on:** 11 Feb 2009, 07:58 pm »

Its painfully simple to rip your CDs. Can't imagine anyone paying money for this.

Dan Driscoll · « **Reply #24 on:** 11 Feb 2009, 08:11 pm »

Quote from: Cacophonix on 11 Feb 2009, 07:58 pm

Its painfully simple to rip your CDs. Can't imagine anyone paying money for this.

With my work schedule and other projects it would probably have taken me a couple of months to rip everything myself. Tirade did it in less than 2 weeks, complete with tagging and cover art. I consider it money well spent.

woodsyi · « **Reply #25 on:** 11 Feb 2009, 08:13 pm »

It all depends on available time and money.

mcullinan · « **Reply #26 on:** 11 Feb 2009, 08:20 pm »

I think it was said best here:
http://dl.audiko.net/dynamic/ready/751/751006/Animal-House-Zero-point-Zero.mp3
Mike

BobM · « **Reply #27 on:** 11 Feb 2009, 08:43 pm »

Hey - anyone out of work right now? Could be a way to kill some time, make some money and help out budding computer audiophiles.

Bob in St. Louis · « **Reply #28 on:** 11 Feb 2009, 08:48 pm »

Robin comes to mind.

BradJudy · « **Reply #29 on:** 11 Feb 2009, 09:01 pm »

I believe Tirade also used a system alluded to in this thread, he had a list of CDs he had already ripped and if your CDs were on that list, you didn't have to mail them to him. He would just pull the copy he had archived from a prior customer. With FLAC files averaging something like 300MB per CD, one could archive 3,000 CDs on a single 1TB drive, providing a good sized library to pull from for future customers. I think he was doing it as a side gig in the evenings, so his turn-around time varied.

As noted, one could probably do a decent local service if you lived in a major metropolitan area. It saves on all of the shipping costs and risks.

Hmmm....I'm an out of work computer audio guy, maybe I should be beating the bushes for local folks who want some ripping done.

sts9fan · « **Reply #30 on:** 11 Feb 2009, 09:08 pm »

So he was storing the cds he rips? Thats not legal

low.pfile · « **Reply #31 on:** 11 Feb 2009, 09:20 pm »

The price that I would accept for ripping wouldn't allow the business to make money.

Based on the proposed $1.50 per, my 600 CDs would be $900 . Already mentioned is the shipping for discs and hdd. Even if I had 3x the number of CDs I would just take my time to do it myself.

itunes makes ripping super simple. and as jeffD stated, it's just a matter of multitasking.

a local service in the bay area is about $1.25 per CD.

BradJudy · « **Reply #32 on:** 11 Feb 2009, 09:23 pm »

Quote from: sts9fan on 11 Feb 2009, 09:08 pm

So he was storing the cds he rips? Thats not legal

If he wasn't using them himself, I expect the legality can be justified as providing a data backup as a service to his customers who could request a new copy if they ever lost theirs. I don't expect that data backup services in general have any particular rights to the intellectual property they store - that right is the responsibility of their customer. However, providing copies to future customers without seeing their CD in person may not have been legal.

Dan Driscoll · « **Reply #33 on:** 12 Feb 2009, 03:48 pm »

Quote from: BradJudy on 11 Feb 2009, 09:23 pm

However, providing copies to future customers without seeing their CD in person may not have been legal.

Tirade did/does require that the customer send their CDs to him, as proof of ownership. That satisfies the legal requirements.

BobM · « **Reply #34 on:** 12 Feb 2009, 05:39 pm »

So, if you already have a ripped copy of "Hotel California" in storage, then all you need do is see the next persons CD, then use the stored version for them without having to rip it all again. I'd say that was a pretty smary business model - saving time and effort. You just build a bigger and bigger library over time and only have to rip the new ones you don't have stored already. Extra work up front, little work as you grow and all for the same per CD cost to the end user.

BradJudy · « **Reply #35 on:** 12 Feb 2009, 06:11 pm »

Quote from: Dan Driscoll on 12 Feb 2009, 03:48 pm

Tirade did/does require that the customer send their CDs to him, as proof of ownership. That satisfies the legal requirements.

That's good to know. I think that approach logically meets the needs of copyright protection, although I'll chalk it up as one of many things that are yet to actually be tested in court. In short, I think it meets the spirit of the law, but I don't know the letter of the law well enough to say much about that.

bunnyma357 · « **Reply #36 on:** 12 Feb 2009, 06:12 pm »

This is the remastering of "Something" from Abbey Road, so the drawback I'd be concerned about is you might be that you send a 1983 or 1987 copy to get ripped and end up with a 2000 Clipped Audio version on your drive if that's the version that got ripped by the vendor first.

I'd rather stick with doing it myself.

Jim C

Link to Wikipedia Loudness Wars Page (where the waveforms came from):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war

BradJudy · « **Reply #37 on:** 12 Feb 2009, 06:57 pm »

Quote from: bunnyma357 on 12 Feb 2009, 06:12 pm

This is the remastering of "Something" from Abbey Road, so the drawback I'd be concerned about is you might be that you send a 1983 or 1987 copy to get ripped and end up with a 2000 Clipped Audio version on your drive if that's the version that got ripped by the vendor first.

I'd rather stick with doing it myself.

It's fairly easy for someone who knows what they are doing to recognize different versions of an album and make sure their customers get the right thing. Plus, no one is saying that a service MUST work in the way given in some examples here, just that it COULD be a way for such a service to operate more efficiently.

bunnyma357 · « **Reply #38 on:** 12 Feb 2009, 07:17 pm »

I know that some people would do it right and make sure it was the right version, but there are plenty that would just go by a list and see what CD's you have and copy the files from their library. Just something that if I were going to have a service rip them, I'd want spelled out. And my guess is the cheaper the service the more likely you'd get the version in their library, they might even view it as doing you a favor, since you might pick up bonus tracks, but lose quality on the mastering.

I think before there was all the automatic tagging options when ripping yourself, this would have been a much more valuable service, now it just doesn't seem worth the headache to me.

Jim C

Bob in St. Louis · « **Reply #39 on:** 12 Feb 2009, 07:24 pm »

I'm still patiently waiting for someone to take my offer to personally pick up, rip, and deliver their collection for $4 a disc.

Minimum collection size dependant on distance I have to travel from St. Louis which is geographically centered in the middle of North America for your convenience, and cost savings.

Bob - Rip Master