Yes, the Watt Puppy 8s was one of my reference comparisons when choosing speakers before settling on the 5SEs, certainly they have many qualities but I never felt relaxed listening to them even over a couple of hours in comfortable dealer's showroom. Driving home both times I just felt that I'd never really got into the music, hard to put my finger on exactly but I found myself admiring more than loving their sound, regardless of amps and front ends used. Music is very personal, I suppose, but that reaction told me to pass on making any effort to obtain a pair for myself. The Vons, on the other hand, do make listening to music very pleasurable, which for me is the number one reason to own them.