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Dan Banquer

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« on: 21 Nov 2003, 09:08 pm »
To All;
    For those of you interested in cable measurements please check the following link.
                        d.b.


http://www.audioasylum.com/forums/prophead/messages/6780.html

Marbles

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« Reply #1 on: 21 Nov 2003, 09:39 pm »
Dan,

"However yesterday I happened across a post on one of the newsgroups by Bruno Putzeys, Chief Engineer for Philips' Digital Systems Lab. His post read in part:

Recently I've done a collection of measurements on interconnect cables to see what I could find that would explain the sonic differences that many people, including myself, have grown accustomed to hearing."
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I have easily heard differences as well,  so it would indicate we still don't know WHAT to measure.

Since you are a non believer, just save your money and buy the cheapest POS coathangers you can.  Why do you insist on trying to make a post on this subject?

Dan Banquer

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« Reply #2 on: 21 Nov 2003, 09:48 pm »
Hi Marbles;
     I think I have already answered your question with this post.
                        d.b.


http://www.audioasylum.com/forums/prophead/messages/6783.html

_scotty_

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« Reply #3 on: 22 Nov 2003, 09:49 am »
Dan, You might purchase this book from the AES, Time Delay Spectrometry edited by John R. Prohs, Thirty-two articles of the works of Richard C. Heyser on measurement,analysis, and perception. Here is a link
http://www.aes.org/publications/anth.cfm  He was a pioneer in the field
of measuring audio systems and attempting to understand the dichotomy
between what is measured and what is perceived.

Raj

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« Reply #4 on: 22 Nov 2003, 12:07 pm »
Hi,

Perhaps cable differences aren't that large, but one thing I certainly do belive works - try removing the rca's from a cable and soldering directly to the output or input. I know it isn't practical in all cases but the differences are certainly audible, in my system anyway. It does help if your entire system is dc coupled in order to hear the change (no caps distorting the sound). I don't know if tests have been run without rca plugs, and one wonders just how much 'distortion' they introduce, probably miniscule but certainly audible.

Thanks
Raja

Hantra

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« Reply #5 on: 22 Nov 2003, 12:08 pm »
I think one of the coolest experiences I have had with cable measurements was out at Kimber.  Ray encourages us to bring other cables to measure, so we all brought a few.  Ray, and one of his engineers would stick one of our cables on this really nice color network analyzer, and they could tell us how the cable was going to sound.  It was the most amazing thing.  

They really called it like it was.  My boy Shawn had some Transparents that they measured, and they nailed the sound of that cable by looking at the measurements.  This is something that Ray stresses at his shop.  Correlating data with listening is something they all do at Kimber, and it's so scary that they can just characterize a cable that you have been listening to for months, without even hearing it.  

L8r,

B

Dan Banquer

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« Reply #6 on: 22 Nov 2003, 12:12 pm »
Hi Scotty;
      I've got a lot of books on my list, and more from Richard Heyser certainly wouldn't hurt. Bud Fried and I have talked at length about Heyser and some of the theory Heyser talks about. The way Bud is presenting it seems right on the money to me.
               d.b.

rosconey

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« Reply #7 on: 22 Nov 2003, 01:43 pm »
works been slow this past week so i played with my setup-one change was to swap my zu oxyfuel ic -replaced with 6$ rat shacks i had around-the rat shacks stay :mrgreen: the oxfuels were in my system about a year and realy liked them-but i switched speaker cables last month(groneberg quatro) and the system showed more top end detail and more clearness to the  layers, so i thought why not take 10 minutes and do the swap and then i would know the zu's were beter and it would give me the last excuse i kneed to buy some ic's with eichman bullit plugs :mrgreen:
 
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