I have been lucky. I found a used DAC4800A at The Music Room in CO. I was impressed from the beginning. It replaced my pair of Denon POA6600 amps. The difference was night and day, the improvement was miles above the Denon, or the Acurus 2003. Next 6 months were a search for another DAC amp and multiple visits to the DAC web page. Ebay had a 60V King Maraschino for sale. Negotiated a little better price, about 30 some days later I purchased a new to me demo 60V King Maraschino direct Digital Amp Co. Why? There is something magical in these Cherries, they just seem to get out of the way of music-soft or played loudly. They are there.....but not there either. Speakers are various Magnepans. Pre is either a Sherbourn PT7010A or Parasound Halo C2. A Oppo BDP 95 for SACDs etc. Not the best, not pedestrian either.