SP 3.0?

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Re: SP 3.0?
« Reply #1160 on: 25 Sep 2011, 08:39 pm »
James,

Are you going to make blue LEDs a possibility on the SP3.0 (black 17"), to match the rest of my Bryston gear? Also if you are, will the display be blue as well or would that remain green?

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Yes Blue is available.

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« Reply #1161 on: 26 Sep 2011, 03:32 am »
I'll be using an Oppo 93 as my only digital source for my SP3 when it arrives.  For $500 it is an unbeliveable bargain.  I'm actually considering purchasing another Oppo 93 as a backup unit.  A truely universal player that also outputs 192/24 over the USB drive. 

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John



John,

i believe that the SP3's usb input accepts 'only' up to 48/16 signals. it would be interesting to know if 192/24 is doable later as an update...

al.

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« Reply #1162 on: 26 Sep 2011, 03:44 am »
I'll be using an Oppo 93 as my only digital source for my SP3 when it arrives.  A truely universal player that also outputs 192/24 over the USB drive.

i believe that the SP3's usb input accepts 'only' up to 48/16 signals. it would be interesting to know if 192/24 is doable later as an update...

I don't know about the SP3.0's USB input, but the Oppo BDP-93 doesn't have a USB output.  It has USB and eSATA ports that can read and play files from an attached drive, then output over HDMI or S/PDIF.
 
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« Reply #1163 on: 27 Sep 2011, 02:42 pm »
Folks,

the SP3's manual is ready to read at Bryston's website!!! :thumb:

al.

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« Reply #1164 on: 27 Sep 2011, 04:24 pm »
James,

Am I correct in stating that the SP-3 cannot adjust the L/R balance of 2-channel analog inputs?  In other words, if I connect the balanced analog outputs of my BDA-1 into the balanced analog inputs of the SP-3, can I adjust the L/R balance of the output?  Unlike the SP-2, the SP-3 doesn't have an analog balance control.

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« Reply #1165 on: 27 Sep 2011, 05:43 pm »
Hi James, very glad to see the 3.0 is in production.

ANy news concerning the SP 1.7 trade-in program?
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« Reply #1166 on: 27 Sep 2011, 06:18 pm »
James,

Am I correct in stating that the SP-3 cannot adjust the L/R balance of 2-channel analog inputs?  In other words, if I connect the balanced analog outputs of my BDA-1 into the balanced analog inputs of the SP-3, can I adjust the L/R balance of the output?  Unlike the SP-2, the SP-3 doesn't have an analog balance control.

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Hi Gary,

You can adjust the left and right trim levels using the front panel menu.  In 1/2 DB steps.

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« Reply #1167 on: 27 Sep 2011, 06:20 pm »
Hi James, very glad to see the 3.0 is in production.

ANy news concerning the SP 1.7 trade-in program?
Thanks
Luke

Hi Luke,

Yes we are looking at that now and will be offering a trade in credit depending on the version of the processor - (SP1, SP-1.7 and SP-2)

james

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« Reply #1168 on: 27 Sep 2011, 06:52 pm »
Hi Gary,

You can adjust the left and right trim levels using the front panel menu.  In 1/2 DB steps.

james

James, wouldn't that just adjust the balance for digital inputs?  Doesn't the 2-channel bypass mode 'bypass' the digital circuitry?

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« Reply #1169 on: 27 Sep 2011, 08:11 pm »
James, wouldn't that just adjust the balance for digital inputs?  Doesn't the 2-channel bypass mode 'bypass' the digital circuitry?

Gary

Everything goes through the new volume control.

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« Reply #1170 on: 27 Sep 2011, 08:19 pm »
Everything goes through the new volume control.

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...then the new volume control is completely digital?

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« Reply #1171 on: 27 Sep 2011, 08:49 pm »


...then the new volume control is completely digital?

al.

Its a new design - called a ladder resistor network  - super clean and extremely low distortion.

james

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« Reply #1172 on: 27 Sep 2011, 11:42 pm »
Its a new design - called a ladder resistor network  - super clean and extremely low distortion.

james

And for those who are not so technically versed (like me  :dunno: )....here is the wikipedia def:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resistor_ladder

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« Reply #1173 on: 27 Sep 2011, 11:55 pm »
Folks,

the SP3's manual is ready to read at Bryston's website!!! :thumb:

al.

Thanks for the info on the manual.  I read the manual this evening and have a couple of questions for James:

1) How does one assign HDMI inputs?  The manual specifies the Optical and SPDIF, but I do not see HDMI being metioned.  For example, can DVD be assigned to HDMI4?
 
2) Is there any special configuration for decoding of 5.1 SACD?  I assume I need to just set my Oppo player to PCM and I should be okay.  Am I correct?

Thanks,

John

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« Reply #1174 on: 28 Sep 2011, 12:12 am »
Hi John

The 8 HDMI inputs line up with the 8 front panel source buttons

No special decoding it will handle SACD as 88.2.

James

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« Reply #1175 on: 28 Sep 2011, 12:32 am »
Thanks James, time to put my BP26 in the classifieds I feel.

You might want to hold on to your BP26.  The SP-3 doesn't appear to have a true analog bypass mode.  Analog signals are apparently run through the SP-3's digital circuitry.  If one is using a BDA-1 the signal goes from digital to analog to digital to analog.  I would think the BDP-1 would sound better with a direct digital signal to the SP-3 rather than running it through a BDA-1.  At least with a direct digital connection you would have only one digital to analog conversion.

James, did you say that the BDP-1 sounded better when connected to a BDA-1 rather than directly to the SP-3?

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« Reply #1176 on: 28 Sep 2011, 12:37 am »
You might want to hold on to your BP26.  The SP-3 doesn't appear to have a true analog bypass mode.  Analog signals are apparently run through the SP-3's digital circuitry.  If one is using a BDA-1 the signal goes from digital to analog to digital to analog.  I would think the BDP-1 would sound better with a direct digital signal to the SP-3 rather than running it through a BDA-1.  At least with a direct digital connection you would have only one digital to analog conversion.

James, did you say that the BDP-1 sounded better when connected to a BDA-1 rather than directly to the SP-3?

Gary L

The BP26 and the SP-3 sound very close in analog bypass but I think the BDP sounds better through the BDA-1 with high resolution files.

James

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« Reply #1177 on: 28 Sep 2011, 03:04 am »
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Analog signals are apparently run through the SP-3's digital circuitry.

Where do you read that?

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« Reply #1178 on: 28 Sep 2011, 03:34 am »
Where do you read that?

Everything runs through the new volume control, something James referred to as a ladder resistor network.  Sounds digital to me, so all analog inputs must be converted to digital then back to analog.

This is a major drawback for me.  I was anxiously waiting for the release of the SP-3 with it's HDMI inputs and balanced XLR analog inputs.  But if the balanced XLR inputs are converted to digital for processing then I think I might just stick with my SP-2.

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« Reply #1179 on: 28 Sep 2011, 04:04 am »
Everything runs through the new volume control, something James referred to as a ladder resistor network.  Sounds digital to me, so all analog inputs must be converted to digital then back to analog.

This is a major drawback for me.  I was anxiously waiting for the release of the SP-3 with it's HDMI inputs and balanced XLR analog inputs.  But if the balanced XLR inputs are converted to digital for processing then I think I might just stick with my SP-2.

James can correct me if I am wrong but my understanding is that a ladder resistor network just means that the volume control is implemented through an integrated circuit (IC) rather than a potentiometer.  Only analog signals will go through the volume control.  I see nothing in the user manual to indicate that an analog signal would be converted to digital and then back to analog.  I would be very surprised if that was happening.

Tony