SP 3.0?

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Re: SP 3.0?
« Reply #1260 on: 10 Nov 2011, 05:10 pm »
I understand what you mean, and still disagree. A little, if I might...

There are services my Macbook can deliver, and the Bdp doesn't do. For that I want to connect my Macbook through its usb output to a higher then 16/48 receptacle on the BDA. If only it were because of the other inputs being used already. I have the choice of optical to slink out and in on the BDA, but even if I had another spare one, the USB apparently seems to be the preferred connection over optical.

Eg I stream www.digitalconcerthall.com from my macbook to the tvset/bda. Al sorts of connection possibilities , but the sound optical out usb would be best. As would some other computer related streaming services the BDP just doesn't excel in, because it's design was not meant for that. (I don't complain about that, just to be sure) (would love vTuner though....)


Hope you will consider, when available and possible..

Thanks Marius


Sure if the chips become available  - but existence of the BDP-1 really negates the need for the BDA USB.

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« Reply #1261 on: 10 Nov 2011, 09:30 pm »
Sure if the chips become available

Uhm... they are.

but existence of the BDP-1 really negates the need for the BDA USB.

In the case of the BDP, yes. But maybe people also want to have options open for other possibilities.
So I strongly disagree there.

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« Reply #1262 on: 10 Nov 2011, 10:42 pm »
Uhm... they are.

In the case of the BDP, yes. But maybe people also want to have options open for other possibilities.
So I strongly disagree there.

OK we agree to disagree :thumb:

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« Reply #1263 on: 12 Nov 2011, 06:25 am »
Now that the fun of setting everything up and doing a CD/SACD marathon is over - Does anyone know what the USB plug is for? Will eventual firmware updates make the SP3 a file player?

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« Reply #1264 on: 12 Nov 2011, 11:47 am »
Now that the fun of setting everything up and doing a CD/SACD marathon is over - Does anyone know what the USB plug is for? Will eventual firmware updates make the SP3 a file player?

Hi assafi

The USB is for playback from a computer - it is modular so future updates will be possible. 

James

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Re: SP 3.0?
« Reply #1265 on: 15 Nov 2011, 10:26 pm »
Great news guys, heard today that my SP3 has made it over to the UK and is ready for collection, I can't make tomorrow, roll on Thursday :thumb:

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« Reply #1266 on: 16 Nov 2011, 12:55 am »
Vipers,

Long time!  Hope alls well.  I'm really eager to hear what you think about the SP3. 
I may find myself in a position to consider one next year.  Oooh oooh ooooooh.

Kyri

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« Reply #1267 on: 16 Nov 2011, 03:14 pm »
Hi Folks,

I have a PDF of the new SP3 brouchure - email me at jamestanner@bryston.com if you want a copy :thumb:

james
« Last Edit: 16 Nov 2011, 05:22 pm by James Tanner »

Vipers

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« Reply #1268 on: 16 Nov 2011, 10:23 pm »
Vipers,

Long time!  Hope alls well.  I'm really eager to hear what you think about the SP3. 
I may find myself in a position to consider one next year.  Oooh oooh ooooooh.

Kyri

Hey Kyri,

All good thanks, don't worry, I'll be posting my thoughts on the SP3, just try and stop me :) bear with me though, as to start with I'm only going to hook it up for 2ch, need to sort all the cabling out for Multi Channel, looking forward to trying the BDP-1 direct into the SP3 aswell, compared to going through the BDA-1.

Just ordered another Oppo 95 aswell, after selling my first one, so I'll be keen to try the analogues from the Oppo compared to HDMI into the SP3, luckily I've got next week of work, looks like I'm going to be busy.

Right, time to take the new SP3 brochure to bed, just to read I should add :oops: in readyness for the big day tomorrow :thumb:

Marius

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« Reply #1269 on: 17 Nov 2011, 02:52 pm »
o dear, I quess Santa is too late this year....SP3 looking gorgeous!

(you might have to spellcheck:  "playback equipment must surpasses the parameters of even
the most demanding high resolution software available." and "UNIQUE APPROACH
he SP-3 is first and foremost an AUDIO product.")


James, contemplating this next Buy....Could you please indicate which (if any) would be the most significant features I'd miss in the SP3 compared to my current setup of bp26/bda1/10bsub. Is the sub crossover just as flexible? I really need that for the Quad Esl's.

Thanks, and congrats with this great new sibling.

Marius





Hi Folks,

I have a PDF of the new SP3 brouchure - email me at jamestanner@bryston.com if you want a copy :thumb:

james

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« Reply #1270 on: 17 Nov 2011, 04:53 pm »
MEMO: To All Bryston Customers
SUBJECT: SP3 Customer Response

DATE:  November 2011

SP-3 Customer Response

“Hi James,

It's been about four and a half years since I placed my order for an SP-2. I can still remember, despite my old age, how excited I was waiting for it to arrive.  I had been using a Denon receiver for my preamp/processor and I just knew the SP-2 was going to be a major improvement, the answer to all of the problems with my system.  My expectations were really high.

Unfortunately, those expectations were never met.  It is true that the SP-2 improved the sound of my system, but not to the degree that I had hoped. The Denon receiver was their reference receiver at the time, so maybe my expectations were too unreasonable.  I was convinced that any issues I might have had with my system were not related to my preamp/processor.

So it goes that when I placed my order for an SP-3, I wasn't looking for, or expecting, major improvements in the sound of my system.  In fact, I wasn't expecting it to sound much different at all.  I justified the added cost on my desire to have the convenience of HDMI inputs and the corresponding reduction in the mass of cables required for connecting my equipment to my SP-2. 

I was, however, anxious to see if I could improve the sound of my 2-channel listening with the balanced inputs on the SP-3.  James, the difference is unreal.  Can balanced inputs really improve the sound that much?  Maybe I should have invested in a BP26 a long time ago.  I thought of doing so on many occasions.  I could have even drug out my Linn Sondek LP-12 turntable that's been stashed in my closet for about ten years.  I haven't had a phono preamp since selling my Naim equipment in the early 2000's.

Back to the sound.  The background noise, almost nonexistent before, or so I thought, just got substantially quieter.  The soundstage substantially deeper.  I am hearing inner detail that I have never heard before.  The entire audio spectrum sounds cleaner and more pronounced.  Surely this improvement goes beyond the benefits of using balanced inputs. By the way, my cabling is basically the same, Kimber Kable KS-1016's with RCA's vs. Kimber Kable KS-1116's with XLR's.

I'm sure others will see major improvements in the audio from video sources as well.  I don't try to critique the audio from video sources like I do audio sources.  I was content with the audio from the analog outs of my Oppo BDP-95.  I'm sure the SP-3 will be just as satisfying, if not more so, with the HDMI connection.  Again, I love the convenience of HDMI for video sources. 

Access to menu settings is much improved as well, making setup a breeze. The much larger display helps in this regard.  I really like the large display of the volume setting which takes up all four lines of the display when changing the volume.  I sit about 15 feet from my equipment, yet I can easily see the volume setting on the display. 

I had posted concerns about the lack of an analog balance control on the SP-3.  My room is not a perfect rectangle, so having the ability to adjust the left/right balance of my analog sources is critical.  You had indicated that I could do so in the trim settings.  I still don't quite understand how trim settings can be made in bypass mode, but they work wonderfully. Actually much better than the old analog balance control.

I'm still hoping that Bryston will eventually maximize use of the network connection by releasing an app that allows for control of the SP-3 over the Internet.  Wishful thinking probably. 

Congratulations on the release of this outstanding product.  I have no doubt that the reviews of the SP-3 will be much better than the reviews were for the SP-2.  Not that the SP-2 reviews were bad, but the SP-3 really is a special product.”

Sincerely,
Gary Listen

Vipers

Re: SP 3.0?
« Reply #1271 on: 18 Nov 2011, 01:09 pm »
Hi James,

Got my SP3  :thumb:

Unfortunately I haven't had time to open the box yet, got family staying :cry:

I've been looking through the online manual though and just wanted to check with you how best to hook my kit up via XLR, would the following be OK?

Balanced inputs 1 & 2 for the BDA-1 and BCD-1
Balanced AUX for my Linn Uphorik Phono Stage

Does this mean that I can't run 2 subwoofers though?

Can't wait to get my teeth stuck in :)

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« Reply #1272 on: 18 Nov 2011, 01:23 pm »
Hi James,

Got my SP3  :thumb:

Unfortunately I haven't had time to open the box yet, got family staying :cry:

I've been looking through the online manual though and just wanted to check with you how best to hook my kit up via XLR, would the following be OK?

Balanced inputs 1 & 2 for the BDA-1 and BCD-1
Balanced AUX for my Linn Uphorik Phono Stage

Does this mean that I can't run 2 subwoofers though?

Can't wait to get my teeth stuck in :)

Great - hope you like it - have you heard an SP-3 yet in the store?

There are only 2 sets of analog balanced inputs -the Aux are balanced OUT connectors.

James

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« Reply #1273 on: 18 Nov 2011, 03:44 pm »
Just a quick note before I get to work.  I have had the SP-3 hooked up for 1 day and I must say that anyone that cannot hear the difference between the OPPO and the SP-3 should get your ears checked.  I was expecting it to sound like the SP-2 and maybe a little better.  I really purchased for the HDMI in's & out's.  What I heard after  turning it on   & going through the menu was not the SP-2, and not just a little better, but allot better! 
What I did find a little lacking in detail was the manual.  But a quick e-mail to Mike Pickett, and a quick answer back was all it took to explain my questions.
All I can say is, believe the good reviews you are hearing as they are in my opinion,  correct!  Thanks Bryston!

Vipers

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« Reply #1274 on: 18 Nov 2011, 07:42 pm »
All I can say is, believe the good reviews you are hearing as they are in my opinion,  correct!  Thanks Bryston!
Thanks for the feedback ralph1950, you've got me more than a little excited :drool: I'll hopefully have my SP3 hooked up over the weekend, it can't come quick enough.

Vipers

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« Reply #1275 on: 18 Nov 2011, 07:49 pm »
Great - hope you like it - have you heard an SP-3 yet in the store?

There are only 2 sets of analog balanced inputs -the Aux are balanced OUT connectors.

James

Hi James,

No, I haven't heard it at all yet, I'm hoping to have mine hooked up for 2ch over the weekend, got to wait for my XLR's to be delivered before hooking up for Multi Channel, I've ordered the Star Wars Blu Rays in anticipation :)

Regarding the inputs, I guess my best bet then is to have my 2 favourite sources, BDP-1 and Vinyl, hooked up using the 2 balanced inputs and the BCD-1, which gets very little use now tbh, hooked up via single ended?

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« Reply #1276 on: 18 Nov 2011, 08:11 pm »
Hi James,

No, I haven't heard it at all yet, I'm hoping to have mine hooked up for 2ch over the weekend, got to wait for my XLR's to be delivered before hooking up for Multi Channel, I've ordered the Star Wars Blu Rays in anticipation :)

Regarding the inputs, I guess my best bet then is to have my 2 favourite sources, BDP-1 and Vinyl, hooked up using the 2 balanced inputs and the BCD-1, which gets very little use now tbh, hooked up via single ended?

Yes or use the digital COAX out on the CD player to the CD digital COAX in on the SP3.

james

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« Reply #1277 on: 18 Nov 2011, 11:08 pm »
Yes or use the digital COAX out on the CD player to the CD digital COAX in on the SP3.

james

Thanks James, or I suppose digital into the BDA-1? in theory would you say that the Dacs in the SP3 should outperform the Dacs in in the BCD-1? Does the SP3 use the same or similar Crystal Dacs?

Thanks,

GaryArthur

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« Reply #1278 on: 19 Nov 2011, 01:21 am »

got to wait for my XLR's to be delivered before hooking up for Multi Channel, I've ordered the Star Wars Blu Rays in anticipation :)


I would be very interested in hearing your impressions of the Star Wars Blu Rays through your system.

Note that the Star Wars Blu Rays are in 6.1 surround sound and do not have a 5.1 option in English. Many Blu Ray players including the OPPO's do not handle 6.1 properly (I have both the OPPO BDP-93 and 95). The rear channels should have the same mono rear channel sound but with the OPPO's the sound comes from only one speaker and is not in balance. If your system is 5.1 then the rear channel would either just drop out or be folded into your back channels. Just giving you something to look for so you know it's not a Bryston SP 3.0 problem if your running in 7.1. with a 6.1 disc.

Gary

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« Reply #1279 on: 19 Nov 2011, 02:02 am »
Thanks James, or I suppose digital into the BDA-1? in theory would you say that the Dacs in the SP3 should outperform the Dacs in in the BCD-1? Does the SP3 use the same or similar Crystal Dacs?

Thanks,

No I would expect you will prefer the sound of the CD player through the analog outputs.

james