[Lak]

In my system (http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?vdone&1041994460&openfrom&1&4#1) I use a pair of the Bybee Quantum Force filters on the end of my interconnect going into my monoblocks (best location on my system). A second pair is used at the end of my interconnect going into my preamp from my DAC (second best use). I also have the Quantum Force Speaker filters in use.
This evening I took each Bybee Quantum Force pair out one at a time and carefully listened, then I did the same listening test putting each pair back in while critically listening.
I heard no roll-off of the highs in my system; however, I have never used the Bybee filters on a power cord. The Quantum Force filter on my digital cable did not achieve any performance gain.
What I did hear was the following:
Without the filters in use, my system sounded dull and flat. With the filters in, the system sounded extremely detailed, transparent and vibrant/lifelike.
Best Regards,
Lak

[john curl]

For the record, I did NOT design the CEC transport.  I have never used one.   I only design some products for Parasound.  I am a consultant and I choose what I want to work on.

[lonewolfny42]

"Without the filters in use, my system sounded dull and flat. With the filters in, the system sounded extremely detailed, transparent and vibrant/lifelike."
Best Regards,
Lak
   When I tried the Bybee's (were part of the Bolder Mensa Audition pack),the best sound I got was when the Bybee's were placed on my Krell amp inputs. Better detail in the sound. And I did move them around in the system !

[satfrat]

Please don't second-guess Bob and my opinion on Bybees...

                  I hope I didn`t upset you John, I didn`t mean anything other than the fact that you two have often disagreed and us innocent bystanders are left to make our own guesses as to whats been said. But I do want to give you a BIG THANK YOU for the further indepth explanation on your first post and the insight on the actual Bybee makeup, within acceptable parameters of course. Your further posts were the best informative information on Bybee`s that I`ve read in quite some time. I agree with allot of what you say and the only place that I haven`t found any appreciable gains have been in the analog IC`s. But other than that, VERY application both audio & video that I`ve tried Bybee`s have achieved remarkable improvements in my system. I`ve leveled off at 21 system Bybee`s and I THINK I`m done for the time being all tho I could use another Ridge Street Digital Link w/Bybee`s for my DVD player so`s to save me yanking the one I have off my satellite receiver. Maybe I`ll get just 1 more credit card? Regards, Robin

[lonewolfny42]

" Maybe I`ll get just 1 more credit card?  Regards, Robin "  Ah !  I can see the bankers now $$$       " Robin wants more credit"       $$$

[satfrat]

" Maybe I`ll get just 1 more credit card?  Regards, Robin "  Ah !  I can see the bankers now $$$       " Robin wants more credit"       $$$

                                                                                                                                 That all be the bankers running me ass down for they money!  Regards, Robin

[john curl]

For the record, I did NOT design the CEC transport.  I have never used one.   I only design some products for Parasound.  I am a consultant and I choose what I want to work on.

[Xi-Trum]

Ah!, the excitement of glare...

That's something I discovered early when learning about line filtration: glare IS exciting!

Not exactly!  

Sure, Bybee filter removed the harshness/glare from the sound.  But that wasn't the end of it.  In MY system, minute transient details were also lost.  Also lost were micro dynamics.  Bass seemed to lack the punch it once had.  Vocals seemed not as rich.  You'd get a warm and "fuzzy" (or "soft" if you like to call it that   ) sound.  The overall effect (as I perveived it) was that a thin veil had been casted on the sound.  All these added up to make the sound less lively.

Having said all that, I do like its warmer and sweeter tonality.  

[John Casler]

They do work with AC, and the newer parts are different than the DC parts first made many decades ago for submarines, and are most probably made today in some form different than what Jack Bybee sells.
...

Yesterday I received a new Power Isolator and Balancer hybrid, with Bybees in the "power line" before the isolator or the transformer.

Although I have only had a limited amount of time to listen, the two improvements seem to be in "realism" and "depth and texture".

Now I would be hard pressed to say that the Bybees were responible for the improvement, since the isolator and transformer were also added in the device, but the results are rather signifcant in the area of realism.

I haven't had a chance to see what it did to the RM40 but with the 626Rs the difference was immediate and pleasing.

Oh and the system also included two new Power Cords.

So after I assess the overall improvement, I will probably post a "review" in the commercial "Marketplace" since I also became a dealer of these products.

But in any event, I am looking forward to seeing if there is a "burn in" period or if it sounds the same from day one.  If it doesn't get any better, I'll be perfectly happy.

[Psychicanimal]

In MY system, minute transient details were also lost.  Also lost were micro dynamics.  Bass seemed to lack the punch it once had.  Vocals seemed not as rich.  

Smurf:

As I understand, you only tried a digital cable with a Bybee soldered to it.  If so, then you have not explored Bybees in different parts of your system, as Lak and others had done.  I talked to Lak last night and he told me he did not like Bybees in the digital out, but that he likes them in other places.  His $4.5K Dodson DAC has a built in Bybee.  Go figure...

[Xi-Trum]

As I understand, you only tried a digital cable with a Bybee soldered to it.

Actually, the Bybee filters were used on a pair of M80 ICs.  I did not try them anywhere else.  All my comments on them should be taken in that context.  Perhaps they are more suitable in other places.  I'm certainly open to that.

[Tyson]

I never really like the Bybee's on the M80's (which are fine just cryo'd, that's how I have mine in my HT), now, on the Nitro's, thats a whole 'nother story - the bybees sound GREAT on the Nitro's. . .

[Lak]

"Sure, Bybee filter removed the harshness/glare from the sound. But that wasn't the end of it. In MY system, minute transient details were also lost. Also lost were micro dynamics. Bass seemed to lack the punch it once had. Vocals seemed not as rich. You'd get a warm and "fuzzy" (or "soft" if you like to call it that  ) sound. The overall effect (as I perveived it) was that a thin veil had been casted on the sound. All these added up to make the sound less lively".


In my system when I put the Bybee line filters back IN it sounded like a veil had been removed. Better bass and bass punch, better details and micro dynamics etc.
Perhapes it's system dependent!

[Bwanagreg]

I added Cryotweaks speaker bybees to my Omega TS-1s Monday, and immediately noticed less glare, more depth, and more detail in the sense that distinct sounds are more separated in "space" and therefore easier to distinguish from each other. Well-recorded cymbals sound much more realistic. Listener fatigue has been reduced. Amazing. The ony initial downside was a tilt in the balance toward the high end, but that began to wear off with only few hours of break-in and after 10 hours is gone as far as I can tell.
 
Last night I added ferrite rings to all of the power cords in my system. It was like I had a tone control, and was dialing the treble down and the bass up (I placed them right next to the component). This weekend I will systematically remove some of them to see where the best balance is. I would never have guessed that I could have this degree of control over the sound, especially with a $1 tweak!

[BOK]

Agree with Lak's impressions regarding the Bybees.  I use Wayne's Power Strip with 5 Bybee's, as well as cryo'd Acmes throughout the strip.

The finest AC related improvement I have yet to use.  In terms of  quantifying a Bybee upgrade.... who knows ;^)

For me, the best spent money in audio ... this year, anyway.

BOK

[Sa-dono]

As I understand, you only tried a digital cable with a Bybee soldered to it.

Actually, the Bybee filters were used on a pair of M80 ICs.  I did not try them anywhere else.  All my comments on them should be taken in that context.  Perhaps they are more suitable in other places.  I'm certainly open to that.

Well I have found similar results in power cords, IC's, and inline before the speaker inputs. If you get a chance to try them elsewhere, keep us updated with your thoughts. I'd be curious myself to hear them in someone's system where they are removable, and they feel they provide fully positive results.