I've only had these for about six weeks (original owner), but I just stumbled across a dream deal I couldn't refuse. These are INCREDIBLE bang-for-the-buck high-value speakers, and they even have exceptional cabinetwork. My audiogon triggerfinger is your gain. They probably aren't even broken-in yet. Plus, Jim Salk placed a $50 upgraded tweeter in these for me. $1300 shipped in original packaging to the lower 48 with no Paypal fees. Pics on agon.