Alan Maher's Power Enhancer

Paul_Bui · « **Reply #360 on:** 19 Mar 2008, 08:11 pm »

Where did you drop in the 193M, at the AC outlet or component's (amp's) IEC?

Thanks for sharing.

michaelv · « **Reply #361 on:** 19 Mar 2008, 08:28 pm »

just curious about the monitor liberator (at component IEC). While liberator is a good choice for adding PE or Choke at component IEC, i am concerning on the quality of the liberator itself. I think that most of audiophiles here already updated the female plug in power cable to some brands such as Furutech or Oyaide. Do you think the performance will be masked by the quality of liberator or PE/Choke will compensate for the lost?

If we use liberator for PE/choke, why we have to spend more into expensive plugs. Instead, we can spend money on the filter?

thanks.

Big Red Machine · « **Reply #362 on:** 19 Mar 2008, 10:34 pm »

Quote from: Paul_Bui on 19 Mar 2008, 08:11 pm

Where did you drop in the 193M, at the AC outlet or component's (amp's) IEC?

Thanks for sharing.

Right at the amp.

JenMaher · « **Reply #363 on:** 19 Mar 2008, 10:37 pm »

Hotbird-
We had no intention to release the PE V this early, I was expecting to start the pre sales mid June, but my husband rang me the other night from the road and said it was time. I will be out of town starting Monday for the next couple of weeks, but when I get back I will update the site with a product page and pictures.

Anthony-
You will enjoy the results of the PE V. I would recommend the IEC version for your set up. Start with the source component.

Dennis-
Are you using the Studio Reference Power Cable on the amplifier?

Michael-
The quality of the connector doesn't matter because both the choke and PE control the ringing character of the connection.

Phil · « **Reply #364 on:** 20 Mar 2008, 01:54 am »

BRM,

I use two 193Ms at the outlet of my amp. Same reaction: Wow. I haven't tried disconnecting one of those to see if the second makes a difference, since I really like how it sounds. Perhaps I should try that experiment.

Michaelv,

I had the same concern about the IEC liberator (used with 193L for the source; PE at the outlet). I still don't like it since the connection isn't nearly as good as the power cord plugged right into the IEC, but I wouldn't give up the sound. No loss in detail or tone. Much more body and wonderful tone. So, I'm leaving the IEC liberator where it is. If the IEC side doesn't work, I'd try the outlet. I'm assuming one of these positions will yield a result that will surprise you (pleasantly, that is).

Phil

Paul_Bui · « **Reply #365 on:** 20 Mar 2008, 02:19 am »

Quote from: Big Red Machine on 19 Mar 2008, 10:34 pm

Quote from: Paul_Bui on 19 Mar 2008, 08:11 pm
Where did you drop in the 193M, at the AC outlet or component's (amp's) IEC?

Thanks for sharing.

Right at the amp.

Right on. That's where I use the Hammond chokes. At first, a 193L at the amp's IEC. Then swapped the 193L for a 193M. Then added another 193M. Wow! every time. Someone would say it's overkill, but it's fun to play with the chokes and PE's in various placements and hear the differences. Opportunities in filter/choke tuning are numerous.

michaelv · « **Reply #366 on:** 20 Mar 2008, 04:40 am »

Quote from: Phil on 20 Mar 2008, 01:54 am

BRM,

I use two 193Ms at the outlet of my amp. Same reaction: Wow. I haven't tried disconnecting one of those to see if the second makes a difference, since I really like how it sounds. Perhaps I should try that experiment.

Michaelv,

I had the same concern about the IEC liberator (used with 193L for the source; PE at the outlet). I still don't like it since the connection isn't nearly as good as the power cord plugged right into the IEC, but I wouldn't give up the sound. No loss in detail or tone. Much more body and wonderful tone. So, I'm leaving the IEC liberator where it is. If the IEC side doesn't work, I'd try the outlet. I'm assuming one of these positions will yield a result that will surprise you (pleasantly, that is).

Phil

Phil,
I am thinking of DIYing the liberator, but it's too much work. I have liberators on the way . Once i get them, i'll try 193L at IEC to see if it makes different. Right now i have PE + 193L at each duplex on PS Audio UPC-200 and i like the sound . I also pre-order PE V and i hope it will enhance my system performance more. So if everything falls into one place, i will have PEV, 2 PEs an 1 PE IV + 2 193L in my audio system. Then I may stop ..

denjo · « **Reply #367 on:** 20 Mar 2008, 06:21 am »

Quote from: JenMaher on 19 Mar 2008, 10:37 pm

Dennis-
Are you using the Studio Reference Power Cable on the amplifier?

Jen, yes I am using it plugged directly into the Leben CS600 Integrated amplifier, with the other end feeding from a Hydra 6. From the Hydra, I have another PC linked to a CIAudio XDC2, with a PE2 and PE3 plugged into the XDC2. Since I've recently acquired quite a number of new things - Auditorium 23 speaker cables, Leben CS600 and Rogers LS3/5a speakers - there are too many variables in the mix for me to attribute to a particular item. Give me a bit more time to become familiar with each and how they individually contribute to the overall sound.

Best Regards
Dennis

JenMaher · « **Reply #368 on:** 20 Mar 2008, 11:56 am »

Gentlemen, can we get back on topic, please? Who would like to discuss a custom built PE V Pro????

JenMaher · « **Reply #369 on:** 20 Mar 2008, 02:26 pm »

The power cord type plays a huge role in the performance of the filter. The Studio Reference Jr. triples the delivery of the filter and adds a resonate filter similar to the PE II circuit combo.

The Standard and Pro/Pro Custom AC Plug versions come in the same case to keep expenses down. Both models are wall mountable. The In Line version and IEC version share a different case that are not wall mountable. Both cases are the same size and black ABS to match the PE series.

The max distance is 1000 feet for the stock version of both models. Our unit actually is good up to 1500 feet. Our version is the unit Alan dubbed "The Monster" several months back. He designed the unit to be used in high-end recording studios.

Bybee's will be used in the Studio Reference PLC power cord (TBA). We swapped out our standard Studio Reference that acts as the PLC main before he went on the road. The combination of the PE V Custom Pro (we added 2 additional filters to our unit) and the SR PLC cable is absolutely unbelievable. The SR PLC also has our Reference One filter installed to enhance (quadruple) the Bybee experience.

Wiring type? A DIY version without the connector? I guess we can if requested, I don't see why we cant if you want to hard wire the filter to the iec connector of your favorite power cord, that is what we did with the SR v2 cable.

No need for component upgrades. Pro users can upgrade to the Custom version by adding more filters. Each add on filter cost $40.

We released the V early, but I expect all parts and units ready to ship before April 15. After that all PE V orders will require up to 3 weeks before shipping. As many of you know, Alan tries to get the orders in and out the door as quick as possible. In the beginning I don't expect a huge investment in parts until the product takes off, after that we'll keep a good stock on parts and reduce the wait time.

JenMaher · « **Reply #370 on:** 20 Mar 2008, 04:51 pm »

Robin-
We currently use 6N copper wiring, but 5N silver can be requested for a upgrade. Add $7.50 per foot. The basic filter uses 4 feet of internal wiring. We use a combination of copper and silver in our custom PE V Pro. Gold is way too over priced to make that an affordable upgrade.

We already use the highest quality components in this filter design. Each component is picked by ear when he designs a filter. Specs matter too, but if it doesn't sound good whats thee point?

The 5th filter is magnetic via earth. I don't want to go into anymore detail without his approval.

I took tomorrow off so I will mail everything out before EOB on Friday. I have to go out in the field for the next couple of weeks, oh goodie, so I will be out of the loop starting Monday.

I have to go pick up at the airport in about 20 minutes, they drove up to Hamburg last night to drop off the equipment, so he should be whipped by the time I pick him up. Go easy on him over the next couple of days

jmichael · « **Reply #371 on:** 20 Mar 2008, 08:05 pm »

A while back, I read somewhere that the Bybee units use the same type of filtering material as the ERS Paper. Is this true? Right now, I use the ERS on the inside top cover of my OPPO DV-983H (Sweet!!!!) Universal Player & Trends Audio T-amps. How close can I use the PE's in proximately to the ERS?

alanmaher · « **Reply #372 on:** 20 Mar 2008, 08:31 pm »

The older Bybee's are a combination of ceramic magnetic coatings and ERS. In the grand scheme of things ERS has a limited bandwidth w/ high saturation when it comes to filtering. I would experiment with different types of shielding methods before throwing all my eggs into one ERS basket. Distance???? About a mile...ERS really screws up the performance of the PE...i tried it several times and yanked it out in half the time it took me to install it...avoid it like the plague.

jmichael · « **Reply #373 on:** 20 Mar 2008, 08:52 pm »

This is good to know! I will yank out my sheets that are installed and re-test the PE IV, for which I reported to Jen, that I didn't like as much as the PE III and report back my findings.

alanmaher · « **Reply #374 on:** 20 Mar 2008, 08:55 pm »

Jeff

The III does some wonderful things in the mids and highs....it's one of the best filters I have ever heard for that type of reproduction. delicacy to die for...

jmichael · « **Reply #375 on:** 20 Mar 2008, 09:23 pm »

Yeah.....gotta love the III....and some!!!!

I'm tending towards a PE V Pro rather than the standard. I will wait for your email reply on that discussion.

mercman · « **Reply #376 on:** 20 Mar 2008, 09:57 pm »

Alan,

I read the info on your web site. It appears that I can use the PE V PRO AC ($465 ) in conjunction with the other filters I have on the circuit. Is this correct? I set up my circuit with 2 PE, 2PEII, PE III, and a PE IV.

Thanks,

Steve

alanmaher · « **Reply #377 on:** 20 Mar 2008, 10:14 pm »

I would rather put the extra filters inside the Pro so you only have one controlled point of filtering on the circuit, too many added PE's on the same circuit will close down the top end real quick with this design...it's best to tune all the filtering through the dual resonator filter. The V Pro is set up similar to what you described, you get the same benefits as multiple PE models, dual PE II's, etc. Use the extra filter to tune other circuits in the house....every tuned circuit on the same phase is audible through the stereo, so you don't loose anything from your investment, and you don't experience any top end closed down doing it this way. As I mentioned before, the V basic design allows me numerous areas that can be tweaked in order to turbo charge the PLC's performance. Best to sit down and talk to me right before you place the order so we design a filter that meets all your needs. The Pro that I built for myself has two added filters and it sounds fantastic and really does a nice job on video reproduction. It also appears to work really well with common Audiophile tweaks like Bybee's, Quantum Symphony Pro's, balanced a/c, etc. The Pro combines parallel filtering with magnetic and resonate....the some of the parts really make a killer package.

Jen spoke to me last week or whatever about Ti-Shield inside the wall box, how did that work out for you? Please excuse...I'm a little punchy this evening...haven't slept in the last two days and wired to the roof.

jmichael · « **Reply #378 on:** 20 Mar 2008, 10:56 pm »

If the PE V will collapse the frequency ceiling, I will not want one. This is what I didn't like about the PE IV.

alanmaher · « **Reply #379 on:** 20 Mar 2008, 11:55 pm »

"If the PE V will collapse the frequency ceiling, I will not want one. This is what I didn't like about the PE IV"

If you follow my tuning suggestions you will not have this problem.