Mapletree Pre with Bel Canto S300 (or M300)?

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rockadanny

Mapletree Pre with Bel Canto S300 (or M300)?
« on: 11 Jul 2007, 04:14 pm »
Anyone try this combo yet? I am considering trying the Bel Canto S300 in my currently system - satisfyingly warm and full-bodied tubed CDP and pre (2A SE). I hate the idea of adding "ICE" to my pleasantly warm (though still detailed) system, but from what most/some of what I've read it sounds like these may not add much coolness, if any. If that is true, I might try one.

saisunil

Re: Mapletree Pre with Bel Canto S300 (or M300)?
« Reply #1 on: 11 Jul 2007, 05:08 pm »
You may want to consider uncolored source - i.e. a CD player without tubes - totally transparent.
There are a few TRL (tube research labs) CD Players +/- $500 to 1100 on audiogon - pick any one of them - NV900 is highly recommended - I have one. It is close to as transparent as a CD player gets without killing the musicality.

I have heard Mapletree Pre - it is not question warm and very musical and Bel Canto S300 perhaps on the opposite spectrum - it could be an interesting match.

Cheers
Sunil

rockadanny

Re: Mapletree Pre with Bel Canto S300 (or M300)?
« Reply #2 on: 12 Jul 2007, 12:13 pm »
OK. How about has anyone tried any Class D amps with a Mapletree pre?

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Re: Mapletree Pre with Bel Canto S300 (or M300)?
« Reply #3 on: 12 Jul 2007, 01:59 pm »
There is an S300 for sale for $850 on the 'Gon right now. That might be a way to try it in your system...but don't sell the Ultra 550; my guess is you'll be re-listing the S300. :)

(no affilliation; and YMMV....)

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rockadanny

Re: Mapletree Pre with Bel Canto S300 (or M300)?
« Reply #4 on: 12 Jul 2007, 07:24 pm »
Thanks WEEZ. I suspect I'll have to agree with your suspicion.

topround

Re: Mapletree Pre with Bel Canto S300 (or M300)?
« Reply #5 on: 12 Jul 2007, 08:22 pm »
I heard my Mapltree Ultra 4 SE with the channel islands D200 mono blocs and it had really great synergy.
I have been tempted many times to sell my VTL and get the channel islands.
If I had the money I would have both here in my system. Without a doubt. :drool:

hartwerger

Re: Mapletree Pre with Bel Canto S300 (or M300)?
« Reply #6 on: 14 Jul 2007, 03:11 am »
I mated the Ice H20 digital amp with the Ultra 4A when I had Magnepan 3.6s.    I thought they worked quite well together.    Warm tube magic with clean detail and the Maggies telling all. 

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Re: Mapletree Pre with Bel Canto S300 (or M300)?
« Reply #7 on: 14 Jul 2007, 03:26 am »
I'm selling my S300 right now for $850 shipped ...

My experience with ICE stuff is they're a perfect amp to use if you want to add 'color' to a system with a certain pre, since they're so neutral to begin with. 

Tell ya what, buy this S300 from me and if you don't like it in 30 days I'll buy it back. 

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Re: Mapletree Pre with Bel Canto S300 (or M300)?
« Reply #8 on: 15 Jul 2007, 07:02 pm »
Anyone try this combo yet? I am considering trying the Bel Canto S300 in my currently system - satisfyingly warm and full-bodied tubed CDP and pre (2A SE). I hate the idea of adding "ICE" to my pleasantly warm (though still detailed) system, but from what most/some of what I've read it sounds like these may not add much coolness, if any. If that is true, I might try one.

The s300 input impedance is only 10Kohm.  It won't mate well with a tube pre.  My line 2 worked *ok* with an amp input z of 20Kohm but the dynamics increased using a 50Kohm input on the same amp (bryston xlr and rca inputs).

rockadanny

Re: Mapletree Pre with Bel Canto S300 (or M300)?
« Reply #9 on: 15 Jul 2007, 11:51 pm »
Rotarius - I was askeered of that.

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Re: Mapletree Pre with Bel Canto S300 (or M300)?
« Reply #10 on: 18 Oct 2007, 07:40 pm »
If you are still looking, the wyred4sound ice amp has a buffered input at 100k so would work fine with tubed pre's.

rockadanny

Re: Mapletree Pre with Bel Canto S300 (or M300)?
« Reply #11 on: 19 Oct 2007, 11:16 am »
Fred,
Thanks for the suggestion. Nice that they offer multiple options for power. However, I've decided to skip the "D" class amps for now. Thanks again.