[1000a]

I just spent a large amount of time chasing  what I thought was a ringing somewhere in my audio chain or room.  Being particularly currently obsessed with treating my room (bass traps, room lens all DIY) I started searching for what coud ring and on and on and on.

Finally I thought maybe its in the recording, ear to speaker yep its in there Holy Triodes I've been on a wild goose chase for not a.  Turn volume even lower its still there right inside the tweeter dam.

Never heard this sound before;  listened to this song mucho times its a reference piece for me.  It was not your typical vibrating cymbal from sound pressure created by other instruments - nope it sounded awful, those shaking cymbals I like, puts me there.

I am checking light bulbs, wires you name it, tapeing the RCAs and what not anything to get the little grimlin to go away.  Just prior to my revealation I thought jezz do I have to solve this now its a milli sec of 1 song get a life.

Ever since getting my SB3 I have been in DIY - tweek  city mode and gained tons and tons of resolution for small change audio wize 200-300.

First song first Krall CD 24 bit remastered "Stepping Out" her best most pure jazz,  second line of the 1st song, "no sorrows, no sighs" ouch, has anyone noticed the flaw.  I ask cuase for 3-4 years I never heard it cause MS did not reveal it.  Stock Jolida Amp (corrected 6-2-07) w Halos as the only up grade (dam low end tube gear), so I guess I am getting down to the nitty gritty, and some of it is gritty.

Really its no biggie I was surprized and relieved it was in the recording.  Sonically this has always been one of my favorites, probably a great take so they let it be, or I wounder are we all nuts (squezzing every last once of detail out) and even the recording enginer thought no one will ever even hear that?

My speakers are not analitical at all, nor my gear to my knowledge, Its still pretty rich and tubey.  So I guess in many ways I am very pleased my recent hard won efforts have started defining things so well.  WOW thats strange I am now happy I killed 2 hours I did not have to waist.  A few more refinements and a TVC passive and I can get a life again, ya know cut the grass, work, maybe go to the beach.  Oh I for got that tube DAC I got my eye on to make sure I haven't strayed to far from the farm!!

any feed back- anyone have this CD- heard this on your system- I guess I am looking for a yard stick-  Why cause I am as whacked as we shurely must be!   Or could that be a CD flaw? its defiinitly not in my room it seems it clearly was in the studio.

[Housteau]

I have found the plain stock Jolida fairly revealing and a decent player, assuming you have lots of hours on it and have gotten rid of the original cold Russian tubes.

[1000a]

I did not mean to confuse anybody, I was speaking of my Jolida amp.  I am not using a CDP anymore but an SB3, good PS and a DAC.

[1000a]

well any body got this CD? 

[ooheadsoo]

Checked with headphones yet?

[1000a]

good question,but don't laugh I don't have any currently and have not listened to any in God 18 yrs or more, other than walkman type.  Never got that excited about em.

Are you thinking it might be a speaker flaw?  I don't even have a phono plug for them in any of my present gear. 

[richidoo]

I got a RCA to headhone jack adaptor from the RAT to listen to source output directly when I was tracking down a ground hum. It is not a proper headphone amp so might sound crappy driving headphones, but it useful for testing. You can hear what you need to hear clearly. $4 I think.

I looked for it in rat website, but could not find it. It is a Y adaptor with male RCAs running into a 1/4" stereo headphone jack. 1/8" jack version would work fine with ipod buds.
Rich

[1000a]

thanks Rich

I really don't think its the speaker or any piece of audio gear seems guite specific to this one track and one word. i may check a library copy or see if i can get another copy cheap at BMG.  if I do the rca Y adapter thing do i plug it in the CDP outs, no outs on my amp?  Hmm one of the first CDs I ripped for my SB before I had testing perfected, I'll re-rip it also and check that, maybe its a flaw in that process.  then I'll hook the crumey CDP to my good dac and check the CD itself. 

the JJs did help - more air and detail smoother than the EH input and driver tubes, good recomend.  i ordered some xtra halos from Herbies to give me at least 3 flavors in the input and driver section, gonna try mix and match on them (and return my basic teflons for refund).  inputs may get the blackberies and drivers may get the peeks that sort of thing, will allow me to taylor to my likes without doing say the exp. peeks on the power tubes. i got the newer version of the mid Halos (titanium) for power tubes from him they do sound a little fatter than the ones I had.