storing a violin?

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storing a violin?
« on: 29 Dec 2006, 04:39 am »
My wife has a nice violin and I want to know how I should store it?
I have seen nicer cases that have barometers, so I can infer that humidity matters.
What is the ideal way to store a violin, or is there a way to season a hand made new construction violin?
As an aspiring audiophile I feel I would be remiss not giving musical instruments the same attention I give our stereo...
Thanks in advance, Bill

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Re: storing a violin?
« Reply #1 on: 29 Dec 2006, 06:08 am »
You want to make sure that in the winter with the humidity level dropping that it doesn't get too dry. The wood( particularly the top) could split. If it's a valuable instrument ( monetarily or sentimental) you should get something to check the humidity level of it's surroundings.

Some people store it flat in a case and put a small plastic container in it with a sponge that's saturated with water during the winter months, all the way to keeping it in a room with a humidifier/de-humidifier.

It is something you should consult with an experienced person about if you're concerned with. If there are reputeable luthiers around who do repairs to valuable instruments, ask them for more specific ways to maintain the instrument.

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Re: storing a violin?
« Reply #2 on: 30 Dec 2006, 07:12 am »
It's a new instrument?  How long are you planning to store it?  If it's just overnight, all you really need to watch out for is the humidity.  Otherwise, I would recommend taking down the bridge and loosening the strings, just in case.  I had a small flood for a few weeks earlier this year, and it caused almost a dozen of my bridges to warp prematurely.  Careful the soundpost doesn't fall out, though.

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Re: storing a violin?
« Reply #3 on: 30 Dec 2006, 08:13 am »
i disagree..keep it with strings tuned.
instruments are fine when they gain humidity...it is bad when they are in a drier climate than when they were built.  if u live in a moderate/wet climate its fine to keep it out of its case. keeping it in its case will not protect it from moisture loss but will slow down the changes. if you are bringing it from one drastic climate to another..like a freezing day to a warm friends house..let it settle in the case for a while before pulling it out for the jam.

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« Reply #4 on: 30 Dec 2006, 08:32 am »
Depending on the humidity, leaving the strings out can also cause them to tarnish or out and out rust - another reason to put them away.  I was surprised, myself when I discovered so many warped bridges - it can happen.  Of course, flooding is quite the extreme.  If I had not experienced that, I'd leave them strung, as well.  Maybe with them loosened, a litle.

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Re: storing a violin?
« Reply #5 on: 30 Dec 2006, 08:40 am »
but strings are what...10 dollars a pack?  its better for the instrument to keep it under tension. if u dont play it for so long and store it in such harsh conditions that the strings rust maybe it should be given to someone that will use and appreciate  it   :wink: my instruments sound like crap after a string change or being low tension or out of tune for awhile 
if u slacken the strings and then tune it up again.....that makes the sharp bend that is created at the bridge and saddle shift as the winding at the tuning pegs move a bit. one of the kinks ends up on the wrong side of the nut or saddle and the string sounds dead.

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Re: storing a violin?
« Reply #6 on: 30 Dec 2006, 10:20 am »
Decent strings are closer to $25-30 for a set of dominants, one of the better pirastro sets, or even a d'addario helicore set.  As for the "kinks," there shouldn't be a pronounced kink with a properly setup bridge and nut, and imo, not a great deal with wire wound strings, which tend to be soft and pliable.  Solid steel strings and other circa $10 a set strings do tend to exhibit this problem, but they're so bad sounding and shrill, they're not worth the money they cost - I wouldn't use them if you gave them to me (no offense, nothing personal - but I do think they're garbage.)  If you're worried about the "kink" being on the wrong side of the nut or bridge, you've changed something pretty drastically.  Perhaps check your bridge setup to verify placement and angle.  These are regular adjustments that may be performed at any given time, if you find your bridge out of alignment.  If you're having trouble getting your windings aligned and wound properly on the pegs, you probably need to have your pegs and pegbox properly setup.  Anyway, ymmv.  I would not recommend keeping the instrument under tension for longevity's sake.  Old hide glue can be dealt with, but if the wood gives out or warps, you're out of luck.  It's usually not a problem, but it's what I'd do if i KNEW I wasn't going to touch it for a long time.  In a controlled environment, it should be fine, but things can happen, like the flood I had this year.  By longevity, I mean storage for many months, if you know you won't be using it, not a few weeks.  The best luthiers I know use a humidifier to control the environment 24/7.