[Folsom]

I got Pay The Devil from Elusive Disc.... I am sending it back because the sound, well it sounds like it has been played so many times it is worn out. That however is the more acceptable part.... The fact that it has gouges on one side, tons of scratches my light Grado could never make, finger stains, etc... is what really through me for a loop. It is brand new, I did not suspect this condition!

Just saying for your Stylus' sake, look before you play.

[nathanm]

Did you compare the prints against a database of known record tamperers?

[Wayner]

I bought some "new" records from another on-line store. The albums were used with new shrink wrapping on it. I've bought enough records to know which is which. They certainly charged for new, but it aint. The center hole had spindle marks, the record had fingerprints, there were scratches and pops. New, my *ss.

My moto: trust very few (if any).

[Folsom]

nathanm it had gourges in it... These were scratches that would of required a metal cartidged to be damn near sat on and moved back and forth.

[Hank]

would of required a metal cartidged to be damn near sat on and moved back and forth.

What does that mean, translated into plain English?
More importantly, what does Elusive Disc say about this fiasco?

[Folsom]

Cartridge is the thing on the end of the tone arm, which is the arm that goes over the record that is spinning. On this cartridge there is a stylus (usually) which holds a needle that goes onto the groove of the record, and is moved around to pickup the sound of the record, for instance by the spin.

The gouges were so deep it looks like some one would of had to of sat, by that I mean placed their butt, of their body, their glutinous maximums, on top of the cartridge, then moved around while sitting. The look of the gouges indicates scrapes that plastic is not capable of so it would of rather required metal.

Elusive disc has yet to contact me, but I am not sure if they got the Vinyl I shipped back yet or not. They did say they will replace it.