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Quote from: Scotty on 12 Nov 2006, 09:07 pmI think it helps to remember what setting 10 to 15ft. away from a Jazz quartet sounds like. There is no shortage of detail or texture, and no seperation between the two halves of your brain,this a complete listening experience. In my opinion that is the goal we should be striving toward in home music reproduction. I am quite happy with the progress I have made in this direction with my own system but this has required patronizing manufacturers that are out of the main stream of audio and also have the goal of bringing back it alive insteadof DOA. ScottyYou are assuming the microphones and recorder are recording the same live event you are hearing but they are not. I can hear the spit in the throat of a singer on a recording but I seldom hear that in a live venue. Do you?How can you be sure that the shear amount of detail isn't unnatural? The goal is flawed and pointless to even begin to obtain.
I think it helps to remember what setting 10 to 15ft. away from a Jazz quartet sounds like. There is no shortage of detail or texture, and no seperation between the two halves of your brain,this a complete listening experience. In my opinion that is the goal we should be striving toward in home music reproduction. I am quite happy with the progress I have made in this direction with my own system but this has required patronizing manufacturers that are out of the main stream of audio and also have the goal of bringing back it alive insteadof DOA. Scotty
That hyper-separation seems to me to be an artifact created by 2CH stereo, not something captured by the recording process.
Quote That hyper-separation seems to me to be an artifact created by 2CH stereo, not something captured by the recording process.Yes, you can do it by combining ambient miking ( the ensemble in a hall ) then spot miking ( soloist only ) with a proper pattern microphone, then blend in the spot mic with the ensemble mics and you have a 2 channel recording where the featured soloist is a little more prominent and has more presence because the spot mike sound hasn't been softened by early reflections.Thereby altering the sound as it might be heard by someone sitting in the hall. Good example.Cheers
Musicality is whatever YOU think it is. If you enjoy the music that's all that matters. If you don't then you need to fix something. If there's a small problem somewhere often times you can improve that area.
In the end though musicality is whatever you think it is, not anybody else.
No wonder the sound coming out from my speakers is sometimes better than live performance....
boead,if you don't want reproduce the information on the recording in it's entirety where do you draw the line and what percentage of information do you consider the proper amount to throw out. If the music should not sound lifelike what should it sound like. Or what is wrong with reality as sonic gold standard.Scotty
What is "musicality"?
What is reality ????If you're enjoying listening to a Bach piano concerto.........well..........I hate to tell you..........There are no Bach piano concerto's. Piano's only became the norm after Bach. It was a new instrument and in development at the time. Bach was consulted to try an early prototype, and he didn't like it.
With all respects, that's rediculous- do you think I could avoid being sued for copyright infringment if I took a Britney Spears song, recorded it with different instruments and called it my own? That's idiotic- works have transposed for other instruments for centuries, and Bach & his contemporaries did it back then.
That's idiotic
You need a lot better argument than that.
If you give up and accept the status quo when it comes the quality of the recording you purchase you also fail to provide any economic incentive for improvement of same.
Nor do I call his works "piano concertos."
That's a complete straw man- weren't we talking about the recording vs the event?
If so, why compare the recording vs the "original score" if the recording was of something else? That's Kafka-esque in it's absurdity.
Why did you even bring it up?