Is it possible to actually be satisfied w/ one's system?

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jcoat007

Is it possible to actually be satisfied w/ one's system?
« Reply #20 on: 4 Jun 2003, 10:00 pm »
Back on topic.  

I have found lately that I am spending a lot more time and money buying music and obsessing less about the equipment.  I still have things that I would like to upgrade, but they are mainly tweaks.  

Well, with the exception of a new transport, and I sure would love to get a better turntable and phone pre.  Of course then I would need to upgrade the.........oh who am I kidding there really is no end.  

But it is a good sign when you start buying more music, isn't it?

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Is it possible to actually be satisfied w/ one's system?
« Reply #21 on: 5 Jun 2003, 10:39 pm »
It's nice to hear from another satisfied maggie owner in a forum other than the planar speaker asylum.  I am considering the alpha's as well just for fun.  I plan to hear some in a few weeks and then make my decision.  Once I get to hear them I will post some comments on this forum as to how they compare to my setup. MG20's with four custom Shiva subs.

hmen

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« Reply #22 on: 6 Jun 2003, 03:49 pm »
Whenever I do an upgrade or a tweak I get the feeling that whatever I just upgraded now needs to be surrounded with better equipment. I just bought better speakers so I'm now qustioning whether I need better amplification. After all, these speakers are so much more revealing than the previous set that it's really showing deficiencies in my front end. So I bought an MSB DAC which dramatically improved the sound of my CD's. Then I saw that MSB was offering an upgraded power supply and even though I was happy with the sound of the DAC I now feel like I'm missing something. Once the power supply arrives it will probably reveal that I have a problem with jitter. Then I'll have to decide whether I need a new CDP or an upsampler. After I take care of that I'll begin to notice that the amplifiers that I was bragging about a few months ago don't have the power to drive my speakers to their full potential. Once I upgrade the amplifiers it will become painfully obvious that my preamp produces a grainy midrange and that I really need a passive line stagestage. Or maybe it's current coming into my house and I need a better power conditioner...
   The truth is that as much as I enjoy listening to my system I sometimes hear something that isn't perfect or sounded slightly better on someone else's system. Even reading these posts makes me feel like I'm missing something. Does this mean I'm listening to the equipment and not the music? Or does it mean I love music so much that I just want to hear it as realistically as possible?  Or am I obsessively pursuing some kind of perfection that doesn't exist?  Probably a little of each. :?

Carlman

Is it possible to actually be satisfied w/ one's system?
« Reply #23 on: 6 Jun 2003, 07:58 pm »
Hmen... sometimes a little validation goes a long way... If you want to just enjoy what you have, invite some other people who know a lot more than you over to your house.  If they're cool, they'll point out the strong points of your system and congratulate you on a job well done.  You won't feel the need to go any further for a while.

Unless someone can pinpoint exactly what would help you accomplish your goals, you can feel rest assured you've done a great job.  

Conversely, if you hear others' systems and they sound different but not better, you know you're doing well.  If you like something more about their system, ask what they did to achieve and shoot for it in your own way.  

In any case, of the few people that have heard my system (with good ears), I have always felt a little better about what I've got. ... and most importantly, less inclined to change anything and just enjoy it.

Find good music and enjoy what you've got.

-C

hmen

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« Reply #24 on: 6 Jun 2003, 10:09 pm »
You make a good point. When other people listen to my system they do make me feel better about it.  Sometimes when people compliment me on my setup I jokingly repond by saying "You're right, it does need to be upgraded". But part of me isn't joking.  Even late at night when I'm listening by myself and really enjoying it I think about what could be improved. I guess that's why I'm into this hobby. Every time I buy something new my wife asks me why I bought it after I kept telling her how good the previous stuff was.  My answer is that it can always be better. She then says that it never ends. I guess she's right.

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Is it possible to actually be satisfied w/ one's system?
« Reply #25 on: 6 Jun 2003, 10:33 pm »
Being happy with your system is like being in love - you just know when it's right.  Till then (just like with love) get used to spending a lot of $$ for less that complete satisfaction. . .

Marbles

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« Reply #26 on: 6 Jun 2003, 10:40 pm »
Quote from: Tyson
Being happy with your system is like being in love - you just know when it's right.  Till then (just like with love) get used to spending a lot of $$ for less that complete satisfaction. . .


Of course there are ladies that can make sure you have a "happy ending" for not all that much money  8)

Just go down to the local bus depot neighborhood, they'll find you :-)

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« Reply #27 on: 6 Jun 2003, 10:44 pm »
Quote from: Marbles
Quote from: Tyson
Being happy with your system is like being in love - you just know when it's right.  Till then (just like with love) get used to spending a lot of $$ for less that complete satisfaction. . .


Of course there are ladies that can make sure you have a "happy ending" for not all that much money  8)

Just go down to the local bus depot neighborhood, they'll find you :-)


Until you find out later about the nice little acquirement you've made..  :lol:

Marbles

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« Reply #28 on: 6 Jun 2003, 10:54 pm »
Well there is always that little detail.....

of course if you can just get them to sing acapella ($20 same as downtown  :lol: )  you'll probably be OK  :o

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« Reply #29 on: 7 Jun 2003, 01:57 am »
Quote from: Tyson
Being happy with your system is like being in love - you just know when it's right.  Till then (just like with love) get used to spending a lot of $$ for less that complete satisfaction. . .

Tyson - well said.

I'd have to say that you can be satisfied, but I'm trying to think if I'd include myself in that category or not.   Being satisfied, desiring nothing more than what you have......

I can't say that I'll stop desiring, but I think it is possible to be content..

I think if you can figure out being content, you stop sweating the small stuff.  Sure that can be done by simply changing your mind and how you approach listening..."I have music regardless of what I listen to it on, thus I'm happy.", but like the relationship analogy, when something works, and its 'right', and you are moved, you wonder how you lived previously, and you don't mind the blemishes, and you may even appreciate them, but more than likely, you don't even notice them.

Can you be moved more?  Probably.  Actually, pretty darn close to definitely..  And knowing that you've taken steps already with 'improvement', the curiosity most likely stands...but you become a bit more hestitant in those jumps, you find that need to only exist if its a relatively monumental change.  You make a change, realize that its removed that blemish, but maybe there was something about it that felt right?

I think maybe if you're not moved from the start, not even a glimpse, or an inking of something being breathtaking or you being overwhelmed, then maybe you should try and find that first...not possess it, but know that's it out there.

When I first had audio catch my attention, that's really what it did -- it caught my attention, like seeing someone striking across the room.  It was so far from what I was used to, but I don't know if it was emotional overload.. Maybe an audio one night stand...   Different, intriguing, eye-catching, great from afar, but not necessarily something that completely shuts off your thinking and elicits nothing but emotion.  I want all that other to stuff to freeze.  I want to be overwhelmed.

If you tinker with equipment, try new things, swap things around, its easy to keep searching for something, and you may find definite changes, even improvement -- your presentation feels bigger, or you find greater clarity, timing improves, bass lines are more easily deciphered, but if that feeling isn't there from beginning, you're taking something that's not quite right and making a lot of changes -- erase this, add that, and its a better version of something, but not necessarily a better version for you.  You start down a path that's not totally right for some time, and maybe you should have just started over.

Its the same thing as how one song will move someone while to another its irritating, and what goes the same for women and men, audio reproduction, and just about anything..  But there's got to be that something there in the first place...  Find that first, and you're about 50 steps closer to satisfaction.

Not knowing anyone else local with even the slightest interest in audio equipment, and not frequenting dealers as I know I won't purchase new, my initial exposure to equipment was limited; at most brief visits to dealers.  There's a lot of trial and error and taking chances in between.

If someone with some money laying around came to me for suggestions about audio, and I had the slightest thought that they might end up in the interest/upgrade/try-different-things wheel, I'd probably tell them to listen to a ton of different systems, at individuals homes and dealers, that all had completely different philosophies and tastes, I'd tell them to spend the money to go to an audio show or two, and I'd tell them not to even think about spending a penny until they were not impressed, but moved.

I think it would probably have saved a lot of money and frustration, but that sort of patience is tough to come by..  I also think that if you've done the swapping game, if you find something that does moves you, that you are content with, its initial easy to fall into the trap of analyzing or thinking of what could be better, and then realizing after the fact that you've found something great....for you.  I think this is in part that you've been used to hearing the changes and the 'neat' and 'wow' factor that's expected in a change, that's often temporarily nice, and you're used to thinking that's there's always improvement.....and then you settle in and see that you already have it pretty darn good.

Satisfied?  Maybe not completely as you're always fighting curiosity and dealing with factors out of your control (ie. recordings).

Content?  You betcha.

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« Reply #30 on: 7 Jun 2003, 05:41 am »
I just had my dream speakers made and they are what I always wanted. Better than the Maggies I use to have and that says alot. Even the smaller speakers I had that were 2-ways were better than the Maggies I had and that is not an easy thing to accomplish,but true to my ears.

The only thing I have to do now is get the right amplification and I will be happy!

They'll always be better,but there is a point to which one can get to I believe when equiptment does not matter anymore and only the music is left for one to enjoy.

My opinion is to get the speakers that make you happy. Look at speakers as Musical instraments and find the setup that comes as close to being a  
Stradivarius as you possibly think one might and build your system around them!

Happy hunting! :wink: