Apex/Apex II Cost and Changes

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wildfire99

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Apex/Apex II Cost and Changes
« on: 18 Apr 2006, 01:10 am »
When I was looking at the Apex kit last Fall, I thought it was priced somewhere around $1600 (USD, or roughly double the Kit 2641 cost).

I see now the Apex II is available, for nearly $1000 more. What are the changes that have been made between the two, and am I imagining things or did the cost really go up that much?

RAW

Apex/Apex II Cost and Changes
« Reply #1 on: 18 Apr 2006, 01:35 am »
The original Apex had many issues with the design in the crossover as well as the cabinet was just way to small, both for the MTM as well as the 4 extremis.
What changed? The crossover is all brand new Tony was the fist to get them in his and Branko has them in the fancy finished Zerba veneer he has.

The crossover parts also changed from stock Solen caps and metal oxide resistors to full sonicap caps even the large value caps on the mid range that is a full stack of sonicap no electric caps no poly caps pure sonicap then this pile of caps is topped off with a platinum sonicap bypass cap.

Then each cap value in the Apex II and Apex C as well as HT8 all have Platinum bypass caps on every cap value.

This made the crossovers 100% fully loaded with no upgrade ever needed.

Why did we do this?
Well the Apex II,Apex C as well as the HT8 just warrent this quality of parts as well as detailed parts list.

Below is a photo of the parts that would have been used inthe original Apex.
THe large black cap is a 100uf Solen and that was the way we had priced them but the cost of the 100uf stack with sonicaps and a platinum bypass caps is well over 8 times the cost for the same value.
Does the sound warrent this change yes it does and that is why we changed the crossover as well as the cabinet in the Apex II.
If you look at the Adire site
http://www.adireaudio.com/Home/KITApex.htm
You will see the cabinet plan is not the same size as our new Apex II.The mid compartment is almost 3 times larger as well as the woofer compartments as well as now at .8cft each.


Back to the cost well the parts in the new Apex II are over 7 times the cost of the crossover parts of the original crossver design in both price and performance.

And considering what the Apex II can do for the price point is well worth ever penny and more.

Hope this explains this in detail for you.

RAW

Apex/Apex II Cost and Changes
« Reply #2 on: 18 Apr 2006, 01:43 am »
Contact me direct if you would like the Apex II with Solen parts 100% no Platinum bypass caps no  Sonicaps at all ,a plain crossover list with metal oxide resistors no mills.
Yes pull a full $900.00 out of the price of the Apex II kit as well as them finished for a crossover with the parts changed as noted above.

wildfire99

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Apex/Apex II Cost and Changes
« Reply #3 on: 19 Apr 2006, 11:07 pm »
What would you say the differences are between the two crossover versions ("standard" and "premium")? Usually we're talking something like, IMO, 10-15% improvement, and I can understand someone with the money going for a 'price-no-object' setup with the Apex. Is it a waste to use the standard crossover components, or is it icing on the cake, in your opinion?

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Apex/Apex II Cost and Changes
« Reply #4 on: 20 Apr 2006, 02:56 am »
Well that is a good question.
Really the Sonicaps and the platinums make a large improvment to the midrange over all, quality ,detail and depth.

And yes it islike icing on the top as well as a no holes bared look at the Apex II.We wanted to offer it the best we could with no need for upgrade.

And yes we will wait and see what Tony has to say with his with the full premium crossovers.

Yes the premium icing on the cake :dance:

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Apex/Apex II Cost and Changes
« Reply #5 on: 30 Apr 2006, 06:46 pm »
For those looking around at the Apex II we have just finished adding the veneer options.
Adding a few extraordinary species to the list.
 8)

Changes and additions of these new kits will help those looking at making a purchase have a look at options they may have.

Premium kits Solen Crossover parts 100% caps,Inductors,Resistor will be Metal Oxide.
Sonicap bypass cap for each cap value

Platinum Sonicap caps 100% stacked Sonicap for large value caps and each cap value will have a Sonicap Platinum bypass cap.
Solen Inductors, Mills Resistors.
*RAW Ice acoustic material included

For Example

APEX II premium
Solen Crossover parts 100% caps,Inductors,Resistor will be Metal Oxide.
Sonicap bypass cap for each cap value.
$1599.99 USD

APEX II Platinum
Sonicap caps 100% stacked Sonicap for large value caps and each cap value will have a Sonicap Platinum bypass cap.
Solen Inductors, Mills Resistors.
*RAW Ice acoustic material included
$2499.99 USD