what's the most musical BIG speaker for small tubes????

2bigears · « **on:** 8 Apr 2006, 02:53 am »

OK,i now have narrowed it down to large speakers only...budget is 10k.speakers like the Montana KAS,Usher D2 look interesting.i can only imagine these produce a very warm tone,easy to listen to.must work with 32w tube.has anyone heard Bills D2 in action.any help thks.

lonewolfny42 · « **Reply #1 on:** 8 Apr 2006, 03:00 am »

Have you got a big room ? Those Usher D2's are large and heavy......

2bigears · « **Reply #2 on:** 8 Apr 2006, 03:54 am »

my room is only 15 by 18.Bill stated they will work in a smaller room too.most likely better in a bigger room.those speakers are 4 piece,so they at least come apart to get them through doorways.you can put them into the corner,a little toe-in and push play.is there any replacement for displacement????

lonewolfny42 · « **Reply #3 on:** 8 Apr 2006, 04:02 am »

Athens Audio Club had a listening session with the D-2's...... report is here.......

2bigears · « **Reply #4 on:** 8 Apr 2006, 04:19 am »

thks lonewolfny42.that get together was inconclusive for sure.is there any other speaker makers using huge bass drivers with horns that work well with little tubes.quality is a must.

Vtech2000 · « **Reply #5 on:** 8 Apr 2006, 04:28 am »

Have you considered Avantgarde Acoustics Uno Hornspeakers? Our reference.

http://www.audioconnection.com.au/brand.asp?brand=126

lonewolfny42 · « **Reply #6 on:** 8 Apr 2006, 04:29 am »

I see Bill has these for sale.... http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=26713 .

2bigears · « **Reply #7 on:** 8 Apr 2006, 04:48 am »

DA-1'S and those UNO'S don't have that big speaker sound?? sounds like a lot of people like these though.

zybar · « **Reply #8 on:** 8 Apr 2006, 04:49 am »

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I see Bill has these for sale.... http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=26713 .
I'd say they would be a better match for your amp and room.....and your back when you set them up....unlike the 600lb. Usher's.[/list:u]
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Having spent a lot of time in Lou's room at the last two RMAF, I can say that these would be a very good choice and they won't break the bank.

George

lonewolfny42 · « **Reply #9 on:** 8 Apr 2006, 04:51 am »

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DA-1'S and those UNO'S don't have that big speaker sound?? sounds like a lot of people like these though.

Do you just want to "blast away" ? as in big speakers.....

2bigears · « **Reply #10 on:** 8 Apr 2006, 05:06 am »

well that's the question i wish i could answer,do the D2's and Montana's WAS just blast ,or are they fine sounding as well???? one thing i do-not want is monitor sound,as far from that as possible.i think a 600 pound speaker is some what nutzow,but i think thats the sound i am after.big and very rich,the monitor accuracyof course will not be there,but the big band sound will be.

lonewolfny42 · « **Reply #11 on:** 8 Apr 2006, 05:25 am »

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well that's the question i wish i could answer,do the D2's and Montana's WAS just blast ,or are they fine sounding as well???? one thing i do-not want is monitor sound,as far from that as possible.i think a 600 pound speaker is some what nutzow,but i think thats the sound i am after.big and very rich,the monitor accuracyof course will not be there,but the big band sound will be.

I'm not saying they blast...their fine speakers. But....you have to fit things right for your room and music. So lets see...15 x 18 room....30 watt amp....music...big band jazz ?

lonewolfny42 · « **Reply #12 on:** 8 Apr 2006, 05:42 am »

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budget is what ever it takes,this train is off the tracks now. i listen medium loud so you hear all.smaller room so closer to the speakers 13*17' room.your right with the last two lines deep-rich--warm with coherency to match amp.

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i bought VSA VR4jr's with my amp,they are now for sale.they are good speakers at a good price point,but not my cup of tea.cheers

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the jr's don't really sing softly as i would like,they lean a weee bit on the analytical side,i was interested in a bigger sound.i would like to be absolutely engulfed in music,the speakers must totally disappear..don't even know if they make a speaker that good.i would gladly sacrifice total transparency to a friendly voice that is non fatiquing and easy to listen and live with.someone mentioned the Zu Definitions,would these work???lost in a world of speakers,someone throw a life-line....

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try to find a speaker through word of mouth to let Gerry Rafferty and Van Morrison sing sweetly is becoming some-what of a pita!!

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close to Edmonton,AB

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here is a list:Silverline.... Coincident TV's....VSA DB-99'S ....Sonus Faber amanti's .... Meadowlark BH2's ....Zu definitions .... Daedalus DA-1's .... Avantgarde DUO's -not sure if these are for all types of music.....

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what the hell was i doin' buying 32w/c anyway

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2bigears · « **Reply #13 on:** 8 Apr 2006, 05:52 am »

speakers i wish i could find the scratch for:Montana WAS,the guy wants 20k,Montana KAS,these are going for 10k.these sets look interesting and most likely be the last speakers i would have to buy,though you may know how that goes..nothing's forever.the D2 looks good for 14k,works well with the 300b.these are all crazy big and heavy.above prices are 50% or more off new price as they are used,thats the way i have to buy,unheard.their are a couple of regular speakers that spark interest;the Zu Definition and Vandy 5a.hard to find used.VSA VRsr's if my amp could power them,they do have the DB-99's.thks for help lonewolfny42

lonewolfny42 · « **Reply #14 on:** 8 Apr 2006, 06:02 am »

Is the room 13 x 17....or....15 x 18 ?

lonewolfny42 · « **Reply #15 on:** 8 Apr 2006, 06:12 am »

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Is the room 13 x 17....or....15 x 18 ?

I see you posted at Audiogon as well....good. And you want that "tube sound"....relaxed.[/list:u]

2bigears · « **Reply #16 on:** 8 Apr 2006, 06:15 am »

as it sits it's 13 wide,but the wall can be moved out if need be.if larger speakers demand a bigger room i can move the wall over two to four feet . i think 13 feet is getting on the small side.i put a full wall shelf unit on the rear making the length 17.

lonewolfny42 · « **Reply #17 on:** 8 Apr 2006, 06:24 am »

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2bigears · « **Reply #18 on:** 8 Apr 2006, 06:33 am »

how many stereo shops do i have to visit to find those speakers???? gotta be something out there.

lonewolfny42 · « **Reply #19 on:** 8 Apr 2006, 06:41 am »

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how many stereo shops do i have to visit to find those speakers???? gotta be something out there.

The problem may be "watts"....it will limit your choices. The VAC is a good amp....but 30 watts may limit you to only a select few speakers.

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