Which solder "sounds" the best?

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bubba966

Which solder "sounds" the best?
« Reply #20 on: 17 Dec 2005, 04:16 am »
Quote from: JoshK
well, I mentioned cardas because it was easy to work with, if you know a similar solder, I am all ears.  I have used about 6 different kinds, 4 of which, never again.


Have you given the WBT Silver Solder (WBT-0800) a try yet?

I'm very fond of it. Melts a lot quicker/better than the Kester 60/40 I'd been using. Make soldering difficult or delicate things a whole lot easier.

I'd guess it'd "sound" better than most solders because of the excellent joints you get with it. The 4% silver probably doesn't hurt either.

bubba966

Which solder "sounds" the best?
« Reply #21 on: 17 Dec 2005, 04:47 am »

Occam

Which solder "sounds" the best?
« Reply #22 on: 17 Dec 2005, 05:27 am »
I think we're really dealing with 2 separate issues here.

1. Given the if infirmities of many of us and infrequency of soldering practice, the ease of soldering and ability to produce a clean joint is of prime importance. Regarless of chemical, metalurgical issues, a cold joint will not sound as good as a good one. That means for me, a eutectic composition (where the melting point is below that of the individual components and the liquid state goes directly to solid). This leads me to solders, Multicore, Kester 44, Cardas, and various other eutectic mixtures, primarily composed of lead/tin, often with additions of copper, silver..... And the type of internal flux can have a major effect on flow and wicking which can make or break your efforts. And if you can source it, there is the ternary tin-copper-silver eutectic from Johnson Manufacturing IA-423 (with organic flux), mp 423 F degrees.

2. For those who can compentenly weild a higher thermal mass iron, non eutectic and non lead bearing solders are feasable. Many prefer an 4-8% silver - tin composition, Kester Sn95 Ag5. But frankly, I lack the dexterity/competence to deal with such solders.

So how would we go about judging the merits of differing solder/flux compositions? If we assume the benefits/negatives of a given composition is cummulative, I guess we could assemble 2 of the same component, and listen for a difference between them with 50+ solder joints of the same solder on each hopefully yeilding a discernable difference.

Bizarroterl

Which solder "sounds" the best?
« Reply #23 on: 17 Dec 2005, 05:02 pm »
Who needs solder?  Weld it.

JoshK

Which solder "sounds" the best?
« Reply #24 on: 17 Dec 2005, 06:15 pm »
Thanks Davey for the tips.  Like you said, if you do it often enough you get a feel for it and develop your own technique.  I do almost all of what you said by second nature.  I've been flailing solder for almost two years, self taught but it looks like good practices came naturally.

I too prefer small diameter solder and feed it faster.  Cardas isn't the only one I like.  I have used some stuff I got off ebay that is suppose to be 4% silver, its really thin and melts/flows easily.   I just picked up a roll of Cardas on the cardas group buy on diyaudio, so a significant discount.