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True. Yet, my situation is so obviously a room issue that it isn't fair at all to hang it on the speakers. If you read the text, I can hear those frequencies literally bouncing off the glass of my bar and opposite window.
Yes. I've built some acoustic panels and I'm buying a few more. I've got plans to put some heavy drapes over the window.
Re: the MTM graph - is this a Definition speaker?
Speculate all you want, but these speakers do not exhibit any of what you are saying.
It never fails that comments are made about how these speakers must sound from people who haven't heard them, none of which ever match up to what any of their owners experience from them. The most obvious way to reconcile this is to assume the graph is wrong.
But I do not understand the motivation behind these comments. Is it to prove that a manufacturer cannot design around known issues typical of single-driver speakers?
They match known speaker design theory very well, based on the size of the woofer and the crossover point.
If you read through the Audiogon thread, you'll see that several owners of the speakers have had a negative experience with these speakers along the lines of the problems discussed in this thread.
Quote from: Watson you read through the Audiogon thread, you'll see that several owners of the speakers have had a negative experience with these speakers along the lines of the problems discussed in this thread. Hmmm...I don't know if I'm reading the Audiogon threads the same way as you. There are three threads with the Druids as the topic. One has the same original poster, so of course he's going to have the same problem he posted about here. On that thread, two people didn't like the Druids, but that was based on a listening impression, not on ownership. Two owners responded, both of whom were very positive and didn't see the same problem with their speakers (one of whom told the OP to wait for more break-in, a wise suggestion as the speakers were not broken-in yet). On the thread "Anyone heard Zu Druid speakers?", there were five very positive posts from owners none of whom heard any problem like the OP has here, two negative posts both from listening impressions, and one neutral post based on an impresson. On the thread Cain & Cain Abby vs. Zu Druid, there are two positive owner posts and no other posts about the Druid. Note that the two negative impression posts were the same two people on both threads, and two of the owners also posted on multiple threads. So there is a sum total of one owner on both these boards--the original poster of this thread--who is having this problem, and every other owner posting on Audiogon has no problem of this sort (or really any sort at all). Can you point me to the owners you are referring to? If not, I think your statement I quoted above hurts your arguments earlier in this thread.
you read through the Audiogon thread, you'll see that several owners of the speakers have had a negative experience with these speakers along the lines of the problems discussed in this thread.
Try different toe in/out and see what kind of readings you get. Different speakers will interact with a room differently due to dispersion and interactions with what's in your room. My own room which is a well treated dedicated room has a heck of a suckout at 500hz. Two different sets of speakers and the same thing. My point is that a room can affect different speakers differently. How do you like that DEQ 2496? I"m surprised you also use the Z systems equalizer while also owning the DEQ 2496. I won ...
How many hours would you say you have on them now, Stew?