Stones SACDs discontinued

Rob Babcock · « **on:** 7 Oct 2005, 12:53 am »

Is this true? I've been reading that ABKO has discontinued production of the Stones catalog on SACD. I don't really care much for the Rolling Stones, but surely this wouldn't bode well for the format...

3beanlimit · « **Reply #1 on:** 7 Oct 2005, 03:51 am »

Yep, it's true. You can still find them around....

Dunno if Deep Discount CD has any left but Overstock still did a few weeks ago.

Mathew_M · « **Reply #2 on:** 7 Oct 2005, 05:00 pm »

That's too bad. I was hoping that the Stones hybrid discs would be the wave of the future. No needing to double dip, use the CD layer for ripping mp3 files and the SACD layer for high end playback. Of course I've yet to buy a SACD player which means the rest of the music going public hasn't either.

mcrespo71 · « **Reply #3 on:** 7 Oct 2005, 05:31 pm »

I bought many of them, as the CD remastering layer was excellent. Too bad.

Michael

Digi-G · « **Reply #4 on:** 14 Oct 2005, 02:45 pm »

That's diappointing. I'm not really a big Stones fan, but I was hoping this was the wave of the future - hybrid discs. With entire catalogs of biggies like the Stones, Dylan, Elton John, and REM being released as either hybrid or dual disc I thought we were heading down the right path...

Soundbitten · « **Reply #5 on:** 14 Oct 2005, 09:13 pm »

What's going to replace them ?...regular cds ?

SWG255 · « **Reply #6 on:** 15 Oct 2005, 12:06 am »

I ordered "Get yer Ya Ya's Out" on SACD from Towerrecords.com, and they sent me the replacement CD, an Avco disc that prominently said "DSD Re-mastered" down the left-hand front spine of the standard jewel case. Nowhere else did the disc claim to have anything to do with SACD or DSD. The folks on the Hi-res SACD forum on AA assured me it was a standard redbook CD, so I took it back to my local Tower store for a store credit and found the last copy of "Ya Ya's" in the digi-pack on SACD at my local Best Buy.

I wouldn't mind if Avco had resorted to standard jewel case packaging, but at this point, why tout the DSD re-mastering, and not distribute as a single inventory hybrid disc? of course the answer is money, the CD is undoubtedly a little cheaper to manufacture and distribute.

However, SACDs are being moved from special sections in record stores or in the record departments of book and big box stores to co-mingle with the standard CDs. I think this is actually a good thing, as long as they have redbook layers of course. I just picked up "Gardinas for Lady Day" by James Carter on hybrid SACd, but one had to look REALLY hard to see the SACD logo on the back of the packaging.

lonewolfny42 · « **Reply #7 on:** 20 Oct 2005, 02:22 pm »

Quote from: Soundbitten

What's going to replace them ?...regular cds ?

What's going to replace them....maybe this...from the MSNBC site today......

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Getting gruvi
SanDisk has introduced what they call ‘gruvi’ — the first removable flash memory card of its type to be sold with premium music content.

SanDisk
The tiny TransFlash card is striving to be the newest weapon in the war against intellectual property theft.
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In November, the first gruvi card will be released. It will offer a compressed version of the Rolling Stones’ new album, "A Bigger Bang." The media involved here is a TransFlash (soon to be called microSD) memory card the size of your smallest fingernail. It plays in any device with a TransFlash memory slot and comes with an SD card-sized adapter for others.

It’s the first music release to use SanDisk’s new TrustedFlash technology which allows content providers to lock the content to the card. That means consumers will be allowed to play the card on any device they own that can use the card. According to SanDisk that’s in contrast to closed, proprietary systems that restrict content to a single device.

The gruvi music card includes the album in the WMA format along with bonus content offered exclusively in this format. This new version of "A Bigger Bang" will have a suggested retail price of $39.95 at select retailers, which compares with around $13-$14 for the CD on its own and $30 for a blank 128MB TransFlash card.

© 2005 MSNBC Interactive

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Thump553 · « **Reply #8 on:** 20 Oct 2005, 05:11 pm »

RANT ON/What sort of idiots would think the public is going to pay $40 for a product for which they are having declining sales at $12-15? Sometimes the stupidity of the major music labels is mind boggling-second (maybe) only to the government. /RANT OFF.

Seriously, this probably spells very bad news for the SACD format, probably a death knell quite frankly. If the Stones can't sell enough of them, who can?

SWG255 · « **Reply #9 on:** 20 Oct 2005, 05:42 pm »

I don't know about entertainment distribution on flash chips, but if the price is right, I suppose people will buy them.

As for the death knell for SACD, some classical labels are continuing to produce new titles in the format, so it is moderately successful for the classical music enthusiast.

Quote from: Thump553

RANT ON/What sort of idiots would think the public is going to pay $40 for a product for which they are having declining sales at $12-15? Sometimes the stupidity of the major music labels is mind boggling-second (maybe) only to the government. /RANT OFF.

Seriously, this probably spells very bad news for the SACD format, probably a death knell quite frankly. If the Stones can't sell enough of them, who can?

mcrespo71 · « **Reply #10 on:** 25 Jan 2006, 03:28 am »

Quote from: SWG255

As for the death knell for SACD, some classical labels are continuing to produce new titles in the format, so it is moderately successful for the classical music enthusiast.

Which basically means SACD is dead for the general CD buying public.