In future years, you can uprade the Ref 8, or you can throw away the AVP 16 and buy our be-all-and-end-all-mother-of-all AVP platform (target 2007).
A customer was asking if there will be new AVP coming in 2007. We have ongoing R&D and every year or two, there will be new products. For amplifier, there are only two compoents (well, SE has three) and they are designed to be shared and easily replaced for upgrade. This sets us apart that we offer technology and value protection. For AVP, it is mostly digital circuit with industry standard chipsets. It will be too costly to offer upgrade using Digital Signal Processor (where they can be reprogrammed). AVP-16 was demonstrated at CEDS 2005 and shipped around September 2006

We are not on the bleeding edge of AVP technology. AVP-16 is positioned as an audiophile AVP. Currently there is no plan for another AVP before mid 2007. If there is anything at all, it will likely be near end of 2007. We might just come up with a HDMI switch with audio decoding to go with AVP-16.
This review (
http://www.hometheatersound.com/equipment/nuforce_avp16.htm sumarized AVP-16 very well. Go get a HDMI switch to go with AVP-16 and you'll have a very good sounding home theather system and save a bundle of money (so that you can buy a lot of Ref 9/SE

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